[GMCnet] Rear beds
Wayne E LaMothe
Due to a number of personal reasons we have narrowed our MH search to a model with twin rear beds. Looking at the floorplans, is it possible to reconfigure a rear queen to two twins? It appears that the size of the area is the same and it would be a matter of rebuilding the floor layout. Am I wrong? Are there other hidden things under the floor that might interfere?
We have been looking for a couple of years and gathering info and with retirement a couple of years away it is now time to buy and adapt it to our needs. There are some nice units out there but they are rear queen setups and that will not work for us. I really like the Royales but most seem to be a rear bath. There is a 77 Palm Beach in my price range that has possibilities but the rear bed configuration is the only issue.
Has anyone done such a change that can elaborate on the pitfalls?
Thanks
Wayne and Lisa
Bolton Landing, NY
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When we decided to look for a GMC, we decided that twin beds were
important to us for personal sleeping habits and comfort. We choose a
coach that had been stretched by 2 feet and we enjoy two over sized twin
beds with walk space between them and a rear bedside table built in. No
crawling over each other at 3am. We also enjoy the extra storage in the
side to side luggage compartment underneath which extends from side to
side in the stretched area behind the generator and propane tanks.
Just look for a coach that has been stretched by 2' behind the rear wheels.
HTH-
Doc
Wintergreen, VA
75 GMC Stretch
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Larry Nelson
I have never owned a rear twin, but I believe the area where these twins go is somewhat "longer" (from the rear window to the bath) than you would have in the PB. Unless you are only about 5' tall, you might have very short beds. Others will know more.
Bruce Hislop
I have a 77PB. We removed the rear seats and made a permanent bed there. A double size mattress fits snugly in there which is 54x75".
So unless you are under 4'6" you will need to move the bath/refrigerator and closet/counter forward and re-jig everything.
The double works great for us.. and posture-pedic!
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John Wright
It is quite an undertaking to change the floor plan from a number 26-3
to a rear twin bed. See this link:
http://www.gmcmi.com/forms/26ftplans.pdf
It would require moving the bath module forward about 2 feet on the
one side and the closet and kitchen forward on the other side. Would
involve relocating the black plumbing and the water heater and potable
water lines, gas lines all electrical both AC & DC along with cutting
down and modifying the cabinets to fit the relocation. I have seen it
done once by one of our GMCGL members and it you done know what you
are doing you can destroy a coach, but it depends on how talented you
are. You will spend more money making the change than finding a coach
that fits your needs. JMHO!
J.R. Wright
Wayne E LaMothe
Thanks, I was kind of thinking it would be too short but there was always hope.
Rob Mueller
I can't make it through the night without making a couple of trips to the
loo so I wanted a rear twin.
IIRC the dimensions of the rear double beds is 52-54 inches front to rear
and the full width of the coach.
Can you increase that dimension? Not without major internal renovation. You
can extend the rear of the coach which creates another set problems.
The rear twin models that I am aware of have the following dimensions;
Avion: 75 x 32
Edgemont: 77 x 34
Royale: 74 x 32
I am 73 1/2" tall and I sleep OK on in my Avions, however, when John Sharpe
was kind enough to loan me his Royal to sleep in while I was working on my
Avion in Houston I found I didn't sleep as well. One inch made a difference.
The funny thing about the Edgemont is that none of the documentation shows
that the beds were longer! I PERSONALLY verified the length of an Edgemont
twin at Michael Bozardt's shop in Houston. That Edgemont is for sale I
believe. Here's a link to his website:
Good luck with your search.
Regards,
Rob Mueller
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion-The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion-Double Trouble TZE365V100426
Byron Songer
Modifying a standard interior by GMC wouldn't work. It would have to have an
interior such as Coachmen did in the side-bath Royale or one of the other
companies. You just missed getting a good deal on a rear twin unit sold
recently in New York state.
David of the registry or someone else could give you a rundown on the
particular models that were built with rear twin. Basically, one end of the
bed is over the rear wheels. Someone is over the Onan while someone else
sleeps over the LP tank.
Byron Songer
1978 Royale by Coachmen
Louisville, KY
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Wayne E LaMothe
That was going to be the next question. Rob identified 3 models that had a rear twin arrangement. I was really only aware of the Royale. So what others?
Wayne
Rob Mueller
When I was looking for my twin bed GMC there was a gentlemen in Illinois who
had a twin bed Avion up for sale. His name was Charles Boutell. IIRC it was
a very well kept coach.
Regards,
Rob Mueller
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion-The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion-Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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Rob Mueller
I just remembered that there was the Roll-a-Long by Santana, GMC built a
rear twin Kingsley and I think there was a rear twin by Landau too.
The models above are rare and I think you'll be hard pressed to find one.
Rob Mueller
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion-The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion-Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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> That was going to be the next question. Rob identified 3 models
> that had a rear twin arrangement. I was really only aware of the
> Royale. So what others?
>
> Wayne
GM did the Edgemonte, PB, Kingsley, EL II as Twins
Also Transmodes were fitted up as Twins by:
Avion, Midas, Royale, BiziBody ReddiKamp, Roll-A-Long, Hughes, Norris,
Foretravel, Eldorado, Belmont, Excaliber, Funcraft, Landau, LRP, to name
a few.
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> Due to a number of personal reasons we have narrowed our MH search to a
> model with twin rear beds. Looking at the floorplans, is it possible to
> reconfigure a rear queen to
>
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Wayne E LaMothe wrote on Wed, 28 October 2009 20:13
> Due to a number of personal reasons we have narrowed our MH search to a model with twin rear beds. Looking at the floorplans, is it possible to reconfigure a rear queen to two twins? It appears that the size of the area is the same and it would be a matter of rebuilding the floor layout. Am I wrong? Are there other hidden things under the floor that might interfere?
>
> We have been looking for a couple of years and gathering info and with retirement a couple of years away it is now time to buy and adapt it to our needs. There are some nice units out there but they are rear queen setups and that will not work for us. I really like the Royales but most seem to be a rear bath. There is a 77 Palm Beach in my price range that has possibilities but the rear bed configuration is the only issue.
>
> Has anyone done such a change that can elaborate on the pitfalls?
>
> Thanks
>
> Wayne and Lisa
> Bolton Landing, NY
Sir: my imagination thinks you might could modify the bunk bed couch for full size twin bunk beds in the rear if this would be an option??
My advise tho would be to keep looking till you find one that fills your needs and use and enjoy it.
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76 Crestmont by Midas
East Tennessee
Don Baker
But we just kept looking and found ours in Seattle, WA. I flew to Seattle, approved, bought, and drove our '77 Kingsley twin bed dry bath the 2450 miles back to Texas. Our beds are just bearly six ft long, but I'm still glad that is the one we bought.
Our first camper was a tear drop 4X8 trailer my dad built in 1947 using plans from "Mechanix Illustrated" pulled with a bumper clamp hitch on a 1955 Chev HT. We had a 19' trailer, 20' trailer, 24' trailer, 1976 Executive motorhome, 34' trailer/slide out, 1992 Pace Arrow pusher, and then the GMC. Out of all those before, only the Executive had the twin beds and that is why we wanted that design.
thanks, Don Baker, Burleson, Texas '77 Kingsley twin bed dry bath
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> From: Wayne E LaMothe <super...@juno.com>
> Subject: [GMCnet] Rear beds
> To: gmc...@temp.gmcnet.org
> Date: Wednesday, October 28, 2009, 7:13 PM
>
>
> Due to a number of personal reasons we have narrowed our MH
> search to a model with twin rear beds. Looking at the
> floorplans, is it possible to reconfigure a rear queen to
> two twins? It appears that the size of the area is the
> same and it would be a matter of rebuilding the floor
> layout. Am I wrong? Are there other hidden
> things under the floor that might interfere?
Richard MacDonald
We had the same thoughts when looking for our Coach. We were fortunate to find a Rear Twin/Dry Bath.
There is another just like ours available at Alex Sirums GMC.
It is a one owner in (from what I understand) excellent condition.
If I had not purchased one already, I would have bought it.
Look here http://www.gmcmh.com/
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Richard MacDonald
Punta Gorda, Florida
76 Edgemonte
94 K2500 6.5 Turbo Diesel Silverado
Rob Mueller
Actually there's two rear bed GMC's; the Royal and the Edgemont!
Both of them look nice, the Royal appears to be in really good shape!
Regards,
Rob Mueller
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion-The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion-Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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fred veenschoten
we have a rear bath Royale. a PO had added a hinged extension to the berth on the right side that makes it a double bed. i can scoot out the end of the bed into the doorway and not have to climb over my wife to get out. this works for us as we wanted the rear bath/tub layout.
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'77 Royale RB 455
P'cola, Fl
Richard MacDonald
Actually, the ad that you are speaking of is kind of confused.
I mentioned it to Jeff and he is going to update his site.
The picture of the Coach (outside) is not the same as the pictures showing the interior. The interior is of the Coach that I bought in August. It is a 76 Edgemonte. The other Coach is not a Edgemonte. If you noticed, the outside pictures do not match, the grey/black is the Edgemonte.
Confused? I was too.
Rob Mueller
The Edgemonte is a nice coach too!
Regards,
Rob Mueller
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion-The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion-Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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Robert McMahan
Robert McMahaan
77 Kingsley, Bozeman Montana
John Wright
When we were doing the interior renovation of the 77 Eleganza II we
were undecided on the bed arrangement that we would like you use.
When we went to rallies we took pictures of everything we saw and
sometime like. It is always good to see how other have done their
coaches inside.
We went thru 4 different layouts in the back until the current one
which seems to work best for us. The first layout was the original
davos seats laid out flat with a 4" foam mattress on top, just was not
comfortable. Number 2 was a full size double pillow top mattress (yes
you can get one in the back and yes it is a royal pain in the
posterior to get it in and out). It was 16" thick and I had to build
a step stool so that the wife could get in and out of the sleeping
area. Comfy but not really practicable. Number three was a bunk bed
layout that we had seen in another coach. You know who gets the upper
and it is a real pain to get up and down at night without hurting
yourself and the wife said it was like sleep in a coffin because you
do not have a lot of vertical space to work with. That said some
people like their bunk bed layout, just didn't work for us. Number 4
we went back to the full size mattress but found a much thinner single
pillow top that was about 9" thick and put that on a tilting bed frame
to allow storage under neath. I have the front couch redone with
additional support springs and another layer of foam so that if can be
used as a bed. So we have the twin beds but I sleep in the front and
she gets the back.
There are a number of twin bed layouts out there, but they will be few
and hard to find. Overall condition of the coach will affect your
choice also. Just a word of caution on price ranges. Because of the
economy there are coaches that are in fairly good shape going for give
away prices and you may find a gem out there. But typically the lower
cost the coach the more your going to spend to bring it up to usable
condition. Jim B had just made those comments in the past week. Good
luck on your hunt for your coach.
J.R. Wright
GMC GreatLaker
TZE Zone Restorations
77 Eleganza Custom (For Sale)
1975 Avion (Under Reconstruction)
Michigan
Richard MacDonald
I really like it, the twin beds and dry bath really pleases the wife.
The Coach does not look at all like the pictures now. I have rebuilt the Cabinets in the Rear and refinished the walls. The Panels surrounding the Bath, Closet and Refrig have been refinished with Vinyl. The Cockpit has been refinished and I am now working on the main living area and Kitchen. I still have to install the laminate flooring but will wait until I finish the other projects first.
Very anxious for spring to arrive <bg>
Dick Missett
An off net friend of mine has a 77 Royale rear twin, dry bath for sale. Coach is located in Lancaster PA. He can be contacted at Boba...@aol.com or contact me off net for a cell #. If your interested, don't delay as he heads to his FL home in a week or so and the coach remains in PA.
Dick Missett
Wyoming, PA
From: Wayne E LaMothe <super...@juno.com>
Subject: [GMCnet] Rear beds
To: gmc...@temp.gmcnet.org
Date: Wednesday, October 28, 2009, 8:13 PM
Due to a number of personal reasons we have narrowed our MH search to a model with twin rear beds. Looking at the floorplans, is it possible to reconfigure a rear queen to two twins? It appears that the size of the area is the same and it would be a matter of rebuilding the floor layout. Am I wrong?
Are there other hidden things under the floor that might interfere?
We have been looking for a couple of years and gathering info and with retirement a couple of years away it is now time to buy and adapt it to our needs. There are some nice units out there but they are rear queen setups and that will not work for us. I really like the Royales but most seem to be a rear bath. There is a 77 Palm Beach in my price range that has possibilities but the rear bed configuration is the only issue.
Has anyone done such a change that can elaborate on the pitfalls?
Thanks
Wayne and Lisa
Bolton Landing, NY
Fin Beven
The rear bed / dry bath lay-out is well worth the wait, or the extra time
looking.
We're very glad that we found out about this option before buying.
I converted ours to a rear fore-and-aft queen. Just what we wanted.
Fin Beven
1976 ex-Edgemont
Pasadena, CA
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Don Adams
Could someone with twin beds in the rear and a side, wet bath explain where the extra space/depth in the rear comes from on each side. No closet, no drawers, shorter couch?
Thanks
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- 67 Datsun 2000
- 78 Suzuki 400
Fin Beven
side-wet bath is in GMCs that have undergone the very expensive/complicated
"stretching" process.
Most of the coaches have the side-wet-bath and the refrigerator on the right
side, between the rear cabin and the door. I believe that the only way to
get room for rear twins is to move the refrigerator and/or the bath to the
left side.
Fin Beven
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Don,
The GMCMI site has some floor plans shown with rear beds.
http://gmcmi.com/forms/23ftplans.pdf
We have a 76 Coachmen side dry bath with center kitchen (our next project) and to accomodate a large bed in the rear there are no closets.
Dennis Sexton
73 GMC
Germantown, TN
USA
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ould someone with twin beds in the rear and a side, wet bath explain where the
xtra space/depth in the rear comes from on each side. No closet, no drawers,
horter couch?
Thanks
-
on
67 Datsun 2000
- 78 Suzuki 400
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Don Adams
Thanks Dennis. That is a different floor plan site than I had found.
I was thinking more of 26' Edgemonts or ? That one Royal finds the room by no couch.
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- 67 Datsun 2000
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David L Greenberg
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>
>
> Could someone with twin beds in the rear and a side, wet bath
> explain where the extra space/depth in the rear comes from on each
> side. No closet, no drawers, shorter couch?
>
> Thanks
> --
> Don
>
what company
does the floorplan design. GM twins are different than the
Transmode/upfitted twins.
Golby & Clasco, to mention two converters (not upfitters), took out the
hanging locker
on one side and built a shorty locker over where you feet would be.
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Dick Missett
An off net friend of mine has a 77 Royale rear twin, dry bath for sale. Coach is located in Lancaster PA. He can be contacted at Boba...@aol.com or contact me off net for a cell #. If your interested, don't delay as he heads to his FL home in a week or so and the coach remains in PA.
Dick Missett
Wyoming, PA
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From: Wayne E LaMothe <super...@juno.com>
Subject: [GMCnet] Rear beds
To: gmc...@temp.gmcnet.org
Date: Wednesday, October 28, 2009, 8:13 PM
Due to a number of personal reasons we have narrowed our MH search to a model with twin rear beds. Looking at the floorplans, is it possible to reconfigure a rear queen to two twins? It appears that the size of the area is the same and it would be a matter of rebuilding the floor layout. Am I wrong? Are there other hidden things under the floor that might interfere?
We have been looking for a couple of years and gathering info and with retirement a couple of years away it is now time to buy and adapt it to our needs. There are some nice units out there but they are rear queen setups and that will not work for us. I really like the Royales but most seem to be a rear bath. There is a 77 Palm Beach in my price range that has possibilities but the rear bed configuration is the only issue.
Has anyone done such a change that can elaborate on the pitfalls?
Thanks
Wayne and Lisa
Bolton Landing, NY
Richard MacDonald
Don A wrote on Thu, 29 October 2009 17:04
> Thanks Dennis. That is a different floor plan site than I had found.
> I was thinking more of 26' Edgemonts or ? That one Royal finds the room by no couch.
Don, my Edgemonte has a dry bath located on the left side, along with the kitchen and a side seat. On the right I have a large floor to ceiling locker and the refrig, then the door and dinette.
Do you want dimensions?
The twin beds are fine for us as we are both 5'9 or less.
--
Richard MacDonald
Punta Gorda, Florida
76 Edgemonte
94 K2500 6.5 Turbo Diesel Silverado
Don Adams
Thanks Richard. How long is the side seat?
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- 67 Datsun 2000
- 78 Suzuki 400
Rob Mueller
Here's some links to Avions which have the same "love" seat! HA! It doesn't
give the measurements but you can scale it off other measurements that are
given.
The brochure below has pictures of the two models they made; the Sunburst
and Provincial.
http://www.bdub.net/publications/Avion/Avion.htm
The brochure below has pictures and measurements of the 26' Provincial.
http://www.bdub.net/publications/Avion2/avion-int-261.htm
The brochure below has pictures and measurements of the 23' Provincial.
These are VERY rare! IIRC Dave Greenburg only has 10 of them on the
registery. You can leave the "front" bed made up and just fold it out
nightly!
http://www.bdub.net/publications/Avion2/avion-int-231.htm
Here's a link to the page where all the brochures above can be found and
LOTS more info!
Regards,
Rob Mueller
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion-The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion-Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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Don Adams
Thanks Rob exactly what I was looking for.
That is a tight little "love seat".
And nice woodwork, no wonder you like you two Avions.
Fin Beven
way too small for loving, so we just extended the galley. I do the dishes,
and appreciate the extra counter space, and Mary and I both enjoy cooking,
so this just made sense for us.
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=24236
Fin Beven
Pasadena, CA
1976 ex-Edgemont
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Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 4:42 PM
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Rob Mueller
Me too! The Avion has the same silly seat and I do the dishes too!
I'm going to extend the counter top but I'm looking for a small dishwasher
to put in there! ;-)
Brilliant idea on the trap!
By the way what brand is the four burner cook top? Where did you get it.
Thanks,
Rob Mueller
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion-The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion-Double Trouble TZE365V100426
Fin Beven
It was the smallest I could find with at more than two burners.
And looks pretty good, too.
Fin.
Richard MacDonald
Don A wrote on Fri, 30 October 2009 14:13
> Thanks Richard. How long is the side seat?
The side seat overall is 33 inches but that includes the part that extends over the Step, without the step it is 26 inches.
BTW, I no longer have a side seat, I have removed the entire Galley and am rebuilding the cabinet to provide room for a leather recliner in place of the side chair.
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Richard MacDonald
Punta Gorda, Florida
76 Edgemonte
94 K2500 6.5 Turbo Diesel Silverado
Stick Miller
I apologize in advance if I am posting incorrectly. I understand I might be posting through email instead of the forum, but I'm not sure what that means. This thread speaks to my main delimma. I'm 6'5" but my wife wants a "permanent" bedroom. She also wants a sofa in the fore cabin as well as some sort of other seating. The center twin Royale would work for me with my feet hanging off the end, but momma always wins.
I guess the solution first must include a rear bedroom. I prefer the dry bath, but wouldn't walk away from the wet if I find the right coach. I also need something with the potential for one longer bed. we might resort to my sleeping on the sofa, but would prefer to sleep in the rear in a permanent bed. I know there is the issue of climbing over to go to the bathroom, but life isn't perfect. I guess an east-west landlocked bed would be an option, but can it be a queen? On some I understand there is a storage unit that can be removed to gain more space. Correct?
Is there any option that would allow twins in the rear to be lengthened, short of cutting 2 foot holes in the back? Does the wet bath help with that?
I've studied and studied the floor plans and wish they had dimensions marked. I know the width is 8' but I don't know the dimensions of the various cabin arrangements. I've already decided I'll have to walk around stooped over. At least I want to be able to sleep stretched out! Help.
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Stick (I used to be skinny) Miller
Wannabe
Americus, Georgia
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We had a rear twin Royale...I say had because I converted it to a rear Queen. See this:
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showgallery.php?cat=3823
Put in a JC Penny Queen 5" Mattress topper for a mattress. This arrangement sleeps better than our bed at home. I get up in the middle of the night for...you know...so she sleeps to the rear of the coach. If she does have to get up, she crawls over me (which could be fun). ;) This arrangement has also provided for a lot of storage space under the bed. The only down side has been making the bed every morning...but we even got that worked out. When we put the sheets and blankets on, I safety pin the corners under the mattress. So when we get out of bed in the morning, just pull the sheets and blankets up tight as we slide out toward the front of the coach. By the time we get out of bed, it is almost made. Just throw the pillows in place and call it good. Sure works for us. We spent 3 mo this winter with it, and slept well.
Just what we did.
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Larry :)
78 Royale w/500 Caddy
Menomonie, WI.
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Now THAT is fantastic! I will attempt to do this to Money Pit in the future!
* Mac Macdonald *
* Oklahoma City *
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Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 13:09:19 -0500
Stick Miller
First of all, that is some beautiful work. I'm not sure I'm up to your standards.
So, let me get this straight: you have a memory foam mattress topper right on the plywood. Does that give you a full queen?
Also, on the floor plans on this site the last one shown is a 26 ft. with twins and a dry bath. Looks like I might be able to sneak a little bit of the closet, even though that would not please the wife. I could have a long bed and we would cut out the extra weight of her excessive wardrobe. :)
Stick (I used to be skinny) Miller
Wannabe
Americus, Georgia
Carl Stouffer
Stick'
Here is a link to Fin's pictures of his fore and aft queen bed set-up.
I have seen this coach in person and I'm sure it works well.
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showgallery.php?cat=4230
I believe this would allow a tall person to have his feet hanging out into the hallway
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Carl S.
'75 ex Palm Beach
Tucson, AZ.
Rob Mueller
I am 6' 2" and when I was looking for a GMC one of my requirements was twin
singles.
One of the guys sent me pictures of his Royale was tall also and he had cut
an access hole into the closet for his feet. It hinged outwards and upwards.
At night he said he would open it and his feet would stick into the closet.
He slept in a sleeping bag.
The following models have rear twins:
Royale = 74 inches long
Avion = 75 inches long
Edgemont = 77 inches long
Regards,
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion-The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion-Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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Rob Mueller
IIRC Fin's GMC started life as an Edgemont. So the bed would be 77 inches
fore to aft.
Regards,
Rob Mueller
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion-The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion-Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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Jackie
We have rear twin beds in our Royale. My husband is tall, 6'2". What we did is place a board between the beds at the end. We have our heads at the rear of the coach. We placed a board just across the end that is supported by a lip on both beds that extend toward the nightstand. The board is about 2 ft. long and the width between the beds. We place a couple of pillows on the board and then he is able to stick his feet out the length and have them supported. During the day we shove the board under the bed, out of the way. Has worked for us.
Jackie & Paul Jones
1978 GMC Royale "Cassie"
Port Orchard, WA.
Larry
stickmiller wrote on Mon, 26 April 2010 13:46
>
> So, let me get this straight: you have a memory foam mattress topper right on the plywood. Does that give you a full queen?
>
> Also, on the floor plans on this site the last one shown is a 26 ft. with twins and a dry bath. Looks like I might be able to sneak a little bit of the closet, even though that would not please the wife. I could have a long bed and we would cut out the extra weight of her excessive wardrobe. :)
Yes we do have a foam Mattress topper, but is *not* memory foam...just a (firm) mattress topper layed directly on the plywood, and it makes for a full queen (60 X 80 mattress size) and an extra 6" at the head and foot of the bed, making for 92" wall to wall. I've often thought of getting a King Mattress (76 X 80) and cutting the foot off at 73". That would allow us a king size bed and laying the length of the coach instead of across. Problem is we'd have to custom make bottom sheets, and making the bed would be harder. She would not have to crawl over me in the middle of the night....Humm...better rethink this.... ;)
Larry :)
78 Royale w/500 Caddy
Menomonie, WI.
Stick Miller
Yes, I do know Ken. I am afraid he is going to rue the day he mentioned GMC's to me at a Humane Society event a few months ago. He has created a monster. I was all set to buy a Bluebird and he convinced me to look elsewhere.
I can live with the queen. We have an antique bed that is somewhere between a king and a queen and it is tough to make sheets fit. We generally use queen size and stretch them.
I'm interested in another post that has the twin beds in an Edgemont at 77 inches. We travel by Amtrak a pretty good bet and I'd be willing to bet that the beds in the rooms are not much longer than that. Thanks for the info.
Stick (I used to be skinny) Miller
Wannabe
Americus, Georgia
Rob Mueller
If you're interested in buying an Edgemont I believe Michael Bozardt has one
at his shop down in Houston.
He can be contacted on (713) 373-7775
Michael Bozardt: gem...@yahoo.com
Regards,
Rob Mueller
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion-The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion-Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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Stick Miller
I'd like to know more about the modification that allows the lengthening of one of the twin beds.
"It helps to realize that both twins don't have to be long. I am 6'6" but my wife is only 5'6". I admit I am doing other major interior change, but the different length helps a lot."
I'm responding to Robert McMahan's Oct 2009 post.
Thanks
Stick (I used to be skinny) Miller
Wannabe
Americus, Georgia
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