nw u people shud really work on dis......dis is a serious matter

[nandita]

wats da use of having gmail as our mail id if we can not recover our
chat history or e-mails deleted from trash........plz look in to the
matter........

[Adam Boettiger]

What dictionary are you using?

[Andy]

I can recover deleted emails from trash. I'm sure you can too.

Please click the "Help" link and read about how to use Gmail first,
before posting your questions.

Andy

[Nick Chirchirillo]

You mean it's a serious flaw that in order to permanently delete an email from GMail, you have to:

1. Select the email
2. Click the delete button
3. Click some other link so that the big yellow 'undo' link goes away
4. Click the trash link
5. Select the email again
6. Click DELETE FOREVER

There are six steps that have to be taken in order for an email or chat to be deleted from your trash.  How is this a serious matter?  If you're too impulsive and delete things on a whim, then it's your own fault.  What did you think would happen when you clicked "DELETE FOREVER"?


-Nick

[Andy]

Ah, he was complaining about deleting messages FROM the trash, after
having already deleted them once. I missed that.

Nandita, if you didn't understand the meaning of "DELETE FOREVER",
please look it up.

Andy

("Hey mister, there must be something wrong. If someone puts a gun to
their head and pulls the trigger, it damages their brains. Please
look into this matter.")

[Marko Vukovic]

Looks like PEBKAC to me...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_error

--
Marko

[Marko Vukovic]

2009/11/8 Adam Boettiger <ad...@adamboettiger.com>:

>
> What dictionary are you using?

LOL, I was wondering the same ;)
--
Marko

[nandita singh]

now all i could say is that whatever i learned about english men in bpo is true...........you guys really need a dictonary for every damn thing......dn't u worry we indians are working day and night for you people 
 

[Sean Murphy]

    Heh. That's a pretty good response, actually. (And I have a lot of respect for anyone who can keep their sense of humor when they are being teased.) So, I am not sure, what did you mean by "deleted from trash" - did you mean that you wanted to be able to restore emails after you deleted them, or did you mean that you had deleted them, and then emptied the trash, and then wanted to restore them? The first one is possible, the second one is not. (I don't know how chat history is handled by Gmail, I got tired of chat in general before Gmail was created.)

-0 1 - just my two bits

[Marko Vukovic]

On 08 Nov 2009, at 20:15, nandita singh <nandita...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> now all i could say is that whatever i learned about english men in
> bpo is true...........you guys really need a dictonary for every
> damn thing......dn't u worry we indians are working day and night
> for you people

Nandita

I don't know what you mean by 'you people' but you don't know me or
anything about me.

This group is a community of people discussing and helping each other
with Gmail. You clearly have no idea how to behave in a community as
you can't even be bothered to greet, be polite or even type properly
so why should anyone bother with you?

--
Marko

[Sean Murphy]

    The reverse is true as well - you don't know anything about Nandita either. Not everyone has English as their first language so it's dangerous to assume that poor spelling or grammar is the result of laziness or ignorance. The person asking for help might be translating from Chinese, Swahili, or Hindi. I could be wrong, but I got the impression that it was a tongue-in-cheek response to the criticisms of his (or her, it's not like I can see the person through the Internet) English.

[Ryan Morehart]

Agreed with Sean. You guys are out of line making fun of it. If
someone is clearly using just txt speak or something, that's one
thing, but poor grammar on a world-wide group is not a big deal. The
message was understandable, that's the important part.

Ryan

[Fuzzy Logic]

Would you expect to be able to recover something you mistakenly threw
in a dumpster after the garbage truck has been through? Same idea.
Trash is supposed to hold messages you plan to get rid of. Once you
empty it, you are stating that you have no intention of even trying to
get them back.

[Marko Vukovic]

Sean and Ryan,

This was clearly txt speak, that much is obvious and it is definitely
*not* appropriate and will result in flaming on any mailing list.
Nandita can also not see us through the Internet but has concluded
that we are indeed men, just as I can conclude that she is a woman as
Nandita is a girl's name.

This is getting way OT. Point is, txt speak aside, it is unreasonable
to expect to recover messages emptied from the trash.
--
Marko

[nandita singh]

 

hey sean ....thx 4 supporting me...........marko started as this.....n dats my style f writing .......in chats n networking sites ......but poor marko cudnt understand dis.............

 

 

thx nywys

nandita

 

[nandita singh]

Andy

 

 

thx 4 u wonderful suggestion.........n use she for me.......

 

[nandita singh]

On 11/9/09, Sean Murphy <smpa...@gmail.com> wrote:

 "deleted from trash " i meant .....dat mails wer deleted by me frm inbox as wel as trash.....n want sum one 2 help me recover those mail.

 

thx for concern

nandita

 

[The Doctor]

Ryan,
I agree they are out of line for making fun of it, but it appears to
me to be clearly txt speak. As you say, this is a world-wide group,
and while broken English can be expected from non-native English
speakers, improper English from native speakers, becomes completely
unreadable for the non-natives. The seems so much like txt speak
because our non-native speakers, typically have proper spelling and
structure at least, since they are learning from a book.

Nandita,
This is a world-wide group, and every attempt should be made at proper
English so users from around the world are able to understand you and
participate in the conversation. While your original message could be
"understood", it did not appear to be an attempt at proper English.
Please try to do better in the future. It will reduce criticism, and
potentially solicit a better response. Personal "style" aside, in a
forum such as this, you have to consider others.

On Nov 8, 11:15 pm, Ryan Morehart <moreh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Agreed with Sean. You guys are out of line making fun of it. If
> someone is clearly using just txt speak or something, that's one
> thing, but poor grammar on a world-wide group is not a big deal. The
> message was understandable, that's the important part.
>
> Ryan
>
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 9:09 PM, Sean Murphy <smpara...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >     The reverse is true as well - you don't know anything about Nandita
> > either. Not everyone has English as their first language so it's dangerous
> > to assume that poor spelling or grammar is the result of laziness or
> > ignorance. The person asking for help might be translating from Chinese,
> > Swahili, or Hindi. I could be wrong, but I got the impression that it was a
> > tongue-in-cheek response to the criticisms of his (or her, it's not like I
> > can see the person through the Internet) English.
>

[Andy]

>>> "deleted from trash " i meant .....dat mails wer deleted by me frm inbox
>>> as wel as trash.....n want sum one 2 help me recover those mail.

Sorry, but you can't get them back. Once they are deleted forever
from the trash (which means you intentionally deleted them TWICE),
they are gone, forever. Really.

If you use Windows (or a Mac too, I think), it is similar to deleting
a file, then emptying the Recycle bin and scrubbing the space on the
disk where it was. It is truly gone for good.

By indicating that you wanted them deleted from the trash, you were
telling Google you really do not want those messages anymore and they
can delete all record of them.

Unless you have invented a Time Machine to go back in time, there is
nothing you or anyone else can do.

On the other hand, if you used POP or IMAP or something else to copy
all your emails to your home computer, or if you can contact the
people who sent you those emails and ask them to send them again,
there might be a way to get them back.

(And I apologize for referring to you as "he" earlier ... I am not
very good with names.)

Andy

[Adam Boettiger]

On Nov 8, 2009, at 11:12 PM, nandita singh <nandita...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> hey sean ....thx 4 supporting me...........marko started as
> this.....n dats my style f writing .......in chats n networking
> sites ......but poor marko cudnt understand dis............

Okay... I'm going to call BS here.

Nandita:

1. I'm happy that txt speak is how you feel most comfortable
expressing yourself. However;

2. This is not a teen chat room on AOL, nor is it SMS.

3. If you feel you must use text speak, please ask your Gmail
questions in an AOL chat room and not here.

If you can't be bothered to type "that" instead of "dat", or "of"
instead of "f", if the group is not worthy of proper English, how can
you possibly expect people to want to take the time to help you, let
alone understand you?

4. "Everything I learned in BPO"

I'm pretty sure they did not teach you in BPO that it was appropriate
to use text speak in email. It's not. It's unprofessional and makes
you appear as either naive, ignorant or 14 years old.

Please use proper English or move to an AOL chat room.

5. For anyone here thinking this is a case of a foreign national
trying to use English, it's not. See the quote at the top of this
message.

Nuff said. Next topic please!

AB

[nandita singh]

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thnk u Andy

 

[nandita singh]

Seems i hit the correct cord.You are hurt,so was i............

 

Better not crack jokes over here.Its a GOOGLE GROUP not a AOL chat room.

 

If you feel like doing so move to AOL chat room :P

 

 

NANDITA 

 

 

 

[janu]

Look dear if you hav to recover your deleted e-mail, then in the start
dont bother to delet them