how can i add date and time in my gmail compose

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sukhbind...@gmail.com

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Dec 7, 2005, 11:29:07 AM12/7/05
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hey does anybody knows how i can automatically (like in notepad
pressing the F5 key) get date and time stamp in my gmail compose.


is it there... and the second request can i see my gmail account
via a wap phone... do you know any site that is usefull in this regard.

any help will be helpful,

thakns for you time

Fuzzy Logic

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Dec 7, 2005, 12:59:59 PM12/7/05
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There is no way to do this. Gmail is not a local program, so it cannot
be sure of your local time.

If your phone supports web browsing, you can view your Gmail account.

Fuzzy

Gerard Seibert

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Dec 7, 2005, 1:44:27 PM12/7/05
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On Wed, 07 Dec 2005 16:29:07 -0000, "sukhbind...@gmail.com" <sukhbind...@gmail.com>
Subject: [Gmail-Users] how can i add date and time in my gmail compose
Wrote these words of wisdom:

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On 12/7/2005 1:37:30 PM Gerard Seibert Replied:

To keep track of your local time, Google would either have to place a
cookie on your computer, or maintain a data base with your time zone
included in it. To my knowledge, Google is not employing either of those
technologies rendering the F5 key to inset the users local time
impossible. Actually, there are technologies to locate the user,
(sometimes) and obtain the time zone from that info, but it is very
intensive and not worth the time and expense that Google would probably
have to invest to deploy it.

There might be some sort of freeware program that could accomplish what
you want though. You might try searching for one. You could also just
wear a watch.

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Fanis Hatzidakis

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Dec 7, 2005, 2:07:41 PM12/7/05
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On 12/7/05, Gerard Seibert <gerard....@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Wed, 07 Dec 2005 16:29:07 -0000, "sukhbind...@gmail.com" <sukhbind...@gmail.com>
> Subject: [Gmail-Users] how can i add date and time in my gmail compose
> Wrote these words of wisdom:
>
> > hey does anybody knows how i can automatically (like in notepad
> > pressing the F5 key) get date and time stamp in my gmail compose.
> >
> >
> > is it there... and the second request can i see my gmail account
> > via a wap phone... do you know any site that is usefull in this regard.
> >
> > any help will be helpful,
> >
> > thakns for you time
>
> *************** REPLY SEPARATOR ***************
> On 12/7/2005 1:37:30 PM Gerard Seibert Replied:
>
> To keep track of your local time, Google would either have to place a
> cookie on your computer, or maintain a data base with your time zone
> included in it. To my knowledge, Google is not employing either of those
> technologies rendering the F5 key to inset the users local time
> impossible.

Google places cookies on your computer. Just look in your cookies
directory. I don't know if place time information in it, but they can
always get your timezone by your ip. There exist databases that match
ips (based on the isp they belong to) to timezones.

> Actually, there are technologies to locate the user,
> (sometimes) and obtain the time zone from that info, but it is very
> intensive and not worth the time and expense that Google would probably
> have to invest to deploy it.

It's as easy as querying a database. I'm doing something similar using
free tools, like http://ip-to-country.webhosting.info .

It's not a matter of how to do it, as Google has shown they can be
pretty creative and effective. It's a matter of whether it's useful.
Do people add their local time in emails they compose? Why? The
receiver can always see what time the email was sent, and received.
Besides, the sender can always lie about their local time.

>
> There might be some sort of freeware program that could accomplish what
> you want though. You might try searching for one. You could also just
> wear a watch.
>
> --
> Gerard Seibert

Fanis

Fuzzy Logic

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Dec 7, 2005, 2:50:25 PM12/7/05
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Inline.

On 12/7/05, Fanis Hatzidakis <theofanis....@gmail.com> wrote:

> > On 12/7/2005 1:37:30 PM Gerard Seibert Replied:
> >
> > To keep track of your local time, Google would either have to place a
> > cookie on your computer, or maintain a data base with your time zone
> > included in it. To my knowledge, Google is not employing either of those
> > technologies rendering the F5 key to inset the users local time
> > impossible.
>
> Google places cookies on your computer. Just look in your cookies
> directory. I don't know if place time information in it, but they can
> always get your timezone by your ip. There exist databases that match
> ips (based on the isp they belong to) to timezones.

Not true. I personally know of several people whose ISP is in a
different timezone from them.

> > Actually, there are technologies to locate the user,
> > (sometimes) and obtain the time zone from that info, but it is very
> > intensive and not worth the time and expense that Google would probably
> > have to invest to deploy it.
>
> It's as easy as querying a database. I'm doing something similar using
> free tools, like http://ip-to-country.webhosting.info .

See my previous comment. If this was a simple problem, it would have
already been solved.

Fuzzy

Fanis Hatzidakis

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Dec 7, 2005, 5:01:42 PM12/7/05
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On 12/7/05, Fuzzy Logic <fuz...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Inline.
>
> On 12/7/05, Fanis Hatzidakis <theofanis....@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On 12/7/2005 1:37:30 PM Gerard Seibert Replied:
> > >
> > > To keep track of your local time, Google would either have to place a
> > > cookie on your computer, or maintain a data base with your time zone
> > > included in it. To my knowledge, Google is not employing either of those
> > > technologies rendering the F5 key to inset the users local time
> > > impossible.
> >
> > Google places cookies on your computer. Just look in your cookies
> > directory. I don't know if place time information in it, but they can
> > always get your timezone by your ip. There exist databases that match
> > ips (based on the isp they belong to) to timezones.
>
> Not true. I personally know of several people whose ISP is in a
> different timezone from them.
>

There will always be counter-examples. Yes, there are ISPs that span
multiple timezones, areas, and nations. However, it's a start. And
just because you and I can't think of a more exact solution in the few
minutes we've spent on this thread, it doesn't mean that the combined
brainpower of Google hasn't.

> > > Actually, there are technologies to locate the user,
> > > (sometimes) and obtain the time zone from that info, but it is very
> > > intensive and not worth the time and expense that Google would probably
> > > have to invest to deploy it.
> >
> > It's as easy as querying a database. I'm doing something similar using
> > free tools, like http://ip-to-country.webhosting.info .
>
> See my previous comment. If this was a simple problem, it would have
> already been solved.

I didn't claim that I can find your timezone by your ip. However, I
can estimate it relatively well using the free database from the above
url. Not many countries span multiple timezones.

In any case, I gave a simple counter example to Gerard's email to
further the discussion, like you did now. I didn't claim to have the
perfect solution.

>
> Fuzzy
>
Fanis

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