Use Gmail as a RSS reader....

[Scott V]

not sure where i picked this up, but it's good stuff. sign up at
http://www.myrssalerts.com/ for rss updates to be sent to your gmail
account. gmail, of course, starts threading the emails, so it's really
easy to keep up to date with your favourite RSS feed, when you can't
access your normal application. i think it's great while i'm at uni to
be able to use this method. nothing like a bit of BOING BOING every
hour or so. give it a try ppl.

s.

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[Rodolfo Pilas]

Excellent!!! GMail is a very interesting way to read RSS feeds!!!

I am very unconfortable when GMail deletes my messages from a list
because it consider duplicated ones.... but a read-only system (like
rss feed reader) is excellent! I like it more than bloglines!

--
Rodolfo Pilas
(Ysidoro con 'Y')

[Scott]

yeah, but i thought more peeps would be impressed with this tip.
doesn't anyone here use RSS? c'mon, you gotta love it. :P

[T. M. Tracy]

I haven't used RSS at all...what's it good for? =p

On Wed, 01 Sep 2004 22:11:20 -0700, Scott <sjvi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> yeah, but i thought more peeps would be impressed with this tip.
> doesn't anyone here use RSS? c'mon, you gotta love it. :P
>
>

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T. M. Tracy
www.phstheatre.org
tmt...@gmail.com

[Scott]

are you kidding, really? here's some info for you....

http://www.xml.com/pub/a/2002/12/18/dive-into-xml.html
http://www.faganfinder.com/search/rss.shtml
i can't live without my feeds!

[T. M. Tracy]

that really didn't help... =p

[Scott]

how did that not help? let me do some copying and pasting....

There a number of applications for RSS feeds; the most popular ones
are:

* displaying headlines on other websites
* search engines
* aggregating RSS feeds from multiple websites
* many others

Quite a few websites use RSS to display headlines from other websites,
as it provides additional content to their readers.

Probably the most popular use for RSS is in RSS aggregators. Also known
as newsreaders and news aggregators, these are dedicated programs which
allow you to read RSS files.

For anyone that reads a half dozen or more pages that have RSS feeds,
an aggregator is a necessity. RSS aggregators are set up to
periodically check for new items in the feeds you are subscibed to,
commonly once every hour. In other words, the news comes to you, rather
than you having to go to the news. This saves a tremendous amount of
time. Or conversely, you can read many more feeds in the same ammount
of time. Many people read several hundred feeds. That just wouldn't
be feasible without an RSS aggregator. Additionally, you avoid all the
non-new information on a web page, including the ads, menus, etc.
getting the idea?

[T. M. Tracy]

So, what are some good feeds to set up then?

[Scott]

i'd rather ask you... what are you into? you should take a look through
the feeds over here. there's info there on how to set them up too.
http://www.syndic8.com/boxpage.php?Box=PopularFeeds&N=200

[Fanis Hatzidakis]

Heh, blogging, and ways to deliver it to the users, has certainly
taken off. Personally I never read any blogs religiously. I think the
first blog I consciously checked a few days a week was google's. I get
my customised news from google news alerts to my email, and even
browse news.google.com for variety. I read 3-4 IT-related websites
atleast once a day, and that's about it. Getting tens of feeds from
various personal blogs never really applied to me, but I'm sure there
are some truly invaluable blog efforts out there that I'd probably
enjoy highly if I had the time to discover them.

Fanis

[Scott]

yes fanis, you're right. you just have to find the right ones. i've
been using rss feeds for about a year now. very handy.

[T. M. Tracy]

I really don't know...I looked through them. heh.

On Wed, 01 Sep 2004 23:47:16 -0700, Scott <sjvi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> yes fanis, you're right. you just have to find the right ones. i've
> been using rss feeds for about a year now. very handy.
>
>

[Scott]

well, maybe you're just not ready for "Feeds".

[kael]

---- Original Message ----
From: "Scott" <sjvi...@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: Gmail...@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2004 7:11 AM
Subject: [Gmail-Users] Re: Use Gmail as a RSS reader....

> yeah, but i thought more peeps would be impressed with this tip.

Did Google say:" Use RSS ?" No, so people won't use it ... lol

Yahoo! said: "Use it" and people are now using http://news.yahoo.com.

> doesn't anyone here use RSS? c'mon, you gotta love it. :P

I use http://rss.blogstreet.com . It provides RSS-to-Mail feeds and an IMAP
account. But you can forward the feeds to your Gmail account.

Also, I use http://www.rsscalendar.com/rss/ and
http://www.undergroundlondon.com/weather/ for weather forecast.

Still waiting for official Google RSS feeds - they must be searching for a
way to include relevants ads in RSS feeds. rotfl

--
kael

http://kevan.org/extispicious.cgi?name=ubi.quito.us

[T. M. Tracy]

lol, maybe not. jerkface. =p

On Thu, 02 Sep 2004 00:29:32 -0700, Scott <sjvi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> well, maybe you're just not ready for "Feeds".
>
>

[Scott]

charming! did i forget my <joke> tags? =)

[T. M. Tracy]

haha.

On Thu, 02 Sep 2004 01:45:50 -0700, Scott <sjvi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> charming! did i forget my <joke> tags? =)
>
>

[T. M. Tracy]

So, what are some good feeds then? just some good tech news feeds and stuff

[kael]

---- Original Message ----
From: "Scott" <sjvi...@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: Gmail...@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2004 10:45 AM
Subject: [Gmail-Users] Re: Use Gmail as a RSS reader....

Hi,

I was wondering why the majority of your posts do not include the "To"
header field but the "Newsgroups" one instead. Do you use a special way to
post ? Unless it does not depend on you ?

--
kael

http://kevan.org/extispicious.cgi?name=ubi.quito.us

[Mayuresh Kadu]

personally i use serence.com's klipfolio - its great !

Check out my post on the same at:
http://mytechieself.blogspot.com/2004_07_01_mytechieself_archive.html

--
-- Mayuresh
(Blogs: http://mskadu.blogspot.com/ and http://mytechieself.blogspot.com/)
Own a gmail account ? visit: http://tinyurl.com/5fll6

[Kendel]

> > I really don't know...I looked through them. heh.
>

> well, maybe you're just not ready for "Feeds".

I've never used RSS feeds 'cos, well, I've never felt the need to. If
there is anythihng out there that I am interested in, I'll look for
it.

And the closest I do to reading a blog is visiting Fark (which is not a blog).

Do people really feel the need to have SlashDot piped to them?

[Kikono]

On Thu, 2 Sep 2004 09:03:23 -0400, Kendel <kke...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Do people really feel the need to have SlashDot piped to them?

Absolutely, well, not Slashdot.

I found myself visiting a lot of sites on a regular basis, RSS means
that I can use a tool like Feeddaemon to download the new posts on a
regular basis. I can then read them in a nice, consistent interface
without adverts or the rest of the chaff that pops up on Web sites.

Most RSS feeds are supplied with a summary or first paragraph of each
post so I can choose which ones to read. Reading news like this has
saved me a lot of time, I'd find it hard going back to browsing sites
like this manually.

If you read a handful of sites on a daily basis, give it a go.

Regards.

--
Kikono

[Kendel]

> I can then read them in a nice, consistent interface
> without adverts or the rest of the chaff that pops up
> on Web sites.

Er... doesn't that kind of defeat the purpose of having an ad-supported website?

Or do the RSS feeds have less content / less variety of content or whatever.

I mean, it seems the same reason Google is slow on allowing POP3/IMAP
support for Gmail is the advertising angle (just trying to show this
as still on-topic).

Curious.

[Kikono]

On Thu, 2 Sep 2004 09:36:20 -0400, Kendel <kke...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > I can then read them in a nice, consistent interface
> > without adverts or the rest of the chaff that pops up
> > on Web sites.
>
> Er... doesn't that kind of defeat the purpose of having an ad-supported website?
>
> Or do the RSS feeds have less content / less variety of content or whatever.

It is a drawback for the Web site owner but not many sites put an
entire article into their RSS feed so you have to go to their site
anyway if you choose to read it. Commercial sites tend to post less
in their RSS feed, others just post everything.

Personally, I wouldn't mind if every tenth post in the RSS feed was an
advert though, as long as it was plain text and unobtrusive. I think
it would be better advertising, I find that my brain has learned to
blank out the exact areas where adverts ususally appers on Web sites.
8-)

> I mean, it seems the same reason Google is slow on allowing POP3/IMAP
> support for Gmail is the advertising angle (just trying to show this
> as still on-topic).

Agreed, I imagine that if Gmail offers POP3/IMAP access it will be
paid for. Let's face it the only reason Gmail is free is because of
the adverts. They /could/ insert adverts into emails as they are
delivered to you and offer free POP3/IMAP but that would be ugly.

--
Kikono

[Rick Henkel]

I use RSS to view just about everything I read on the Internet nowadays
(including posts from Google Groups and Yahoo Groups). Using Bloglines,
I can go to one page to view the content that I get from almost 350
feeds. I'd never be able to track that many Web sites individually.

If I find a topic that I'm interested in, I click it to go to that
site. At that point, I get the advertising that you mentioned.

I agree that people will start putting ads in their feeds. As long as
they're not pop-up ads, I don't think I'll mind. I'd much rather have
that happen than have to do without my RSS feeds.

Rick

[Fanis Hatzidakis]

You guys picqued my curiosity, so I downloaded Klipfolio. Very good
impression so far :)

Fanis

[Ashish Poddar]

i guess that must be posted via the group's site.. correct me if i am wrong!

Ashish.

[T. M. Tracy]

Well, something to do instead of filtering on a 'to:' field. you can
put it in 'has the words' field has the words
'gmail...@googlegroups.com' and that will get it. I haven't had
one yet that isn't labeled. Even one's that don't have the to:
header.

On Thu, 2 Sep 2004 14:57:25 -0400, Ashish Poddar <ahpo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> i guess that must be posted via the group's site.. correct me if i am wrong!
>
> Ashish.
>

[Ashish Poddar]

me too am doing the same thing with complete success !!

ashish

[Shayne]

I'm new here, so forgive me if this isn't what you're talking about..

I created filter where if the "Subject:" is "[Gmail-Users]" (including
brackets, but not quotation marks), it would apply a label to the
message. I've only been using it a few hours, but it has worked on
every message since...which I'm estimating to be around 15 messages.

I did the same with some Yahoo groups and it is working for them also.

shayne

[T. M. Tracy]

right, but I can, and do send messages to the group without using the
[gmail-users] tag...now I don't know if the list amends it when i send
to the group or what...lets see.

On Thu, 2 Sep 2004 16:27:14 -0400, Ashish Poddar <ahpo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> me too am doing the same thing with complete success !!
>
> ashish
>

[Ashish Poddar]

u are absolutely right.. it does work for the groups as long they have
the subject prefixes.. but it wouldnt work for the groups without
subject prefixes and neither for the case when any change is made in
the subject prefix...

for those this seems to be a solution as being discussed here :)

with regards,
Ashish.

--
Ashish Poddar
Student, MS (Computer Engineering)
Syracuse University,
New York, USA.

Yahoo Id - ashish_poddar
MSN Id - ashish...@yahoo.com

Mahatma Gandhi - "A man is but the product of his thoughts what he
thinks, he becomes"

[T. M. Tracy]

Yeah, I have mine set on the 'has the words' and it SEEMS to include
the header with this search. I could be wrong, but that's what it
SEEMS.

CONFERMED!

I did a search on 3d6c3f4804090...@mail.gmail.com wich is
the MESSAGE-ID in the header for this message, and it returned this
message only. to that shows that when you search or filter it
searches the headers too!

[Ashish Poddar]

i am not sure about this.. but i think when we send a mail to the
group's address, the group's server attaches the defined prefix (by
the moderator/owner... whomsoever) and then forwards the message to
every1 in the group. thats how the things work i guess.. not sure if
there is any other way to instruct the group not to change the mail in
any way be4 forwarding it to the members !! (maybe by something in
email header)

with regards,
Ashish.

[kael]

---- Original Message ----
From: "Kendel" <kke...@gmail.com>
To: <gmail...@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2004 3:36 PM
Subject: [Gmail-Users] Re: Use Gmail as a RSS reader....

> Er... doesn't that kind of defeat the purpose of having an
> ad-supported website?
>
> Or do the RSS feeds have less content / less variety of content or
> whatever.

 

Here's one of my "coffe time" time feed in the morning.

 

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But not all feeds are like this one. Some are "silly", just f*¤£$!g teasers, "click and see my ads", and some are excellent. Not all headlines are silly, it depends...

> I mean, it seems the same reason Google is slow on allowing POP3/IMAP
> support for Gmail is the advertising angle (just trying to show this
> as still on-topic).

If they add a RSS aggregator in Gmail they will probably use the same "you see my relevant (sic) ads" system ? Feeds may be displayed like emails while their bot will be scanning the feeds...

 

(It's out of topic but IMHO Gmail has not ethics because they implicitely consider that email is not private information - it's irritating me to see "relevant" (sic²) ads. It's a subjective appreciation of course)

 

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kael

 

http://kevan.org/extispicious.cgi?name=ubi.quito.us

[Kendel]

> It's out of topic but IMHO Gmail has not ethics because
> they implicitely consider that email is not private
> information - it's irritating me to see "relevant" (sic²) ads.
> It's a subjective appreciation of course)

Okay, I have to argue this one:

1) How is this a lack of ethics? Google does not say that email isn't
private. If anything, they've said THEIRS isn't private as a
condition of its use. it's not as if they sprung the snoop-ads upon
us without notice -- it was pretty much very vocally advertised before
release.

2) So far as privacy goes, here's a snippet from a law site:

------------------------------
Email Privacy:

Learn why you shouldn't write anything in an email that you wouldn't
want to read in tomorrow's newspaper.

Email feels like a private, one-to-one conversation safe from prying
eyes. But as many folks can tell you (Bill Gates for one) email is
about as confidential as whispering at the White House. Your messages
can be intercepted and read anywhere in transit, or reconstructed and
read off of backup devices for a potentially infinite period of time.

If you're sending email at work, your boss can legally monitor it, and
if your company becomes involved in a lawsuit, your adversary has the
legal right to review it. If you send email from home, anonymous
hackers can intercept it, and if you are suspected of a crime, law
enforcement officials with a warrant can seize your electronic
correspondence. Even your Internet service provider may legally be
able to scrutinize it.

What all this amounts to is simple: Unless you take affirmative steps
to encrypt your messages -- a process that uses sophisticated software
to garble your words and then allow the recipient to unscramble and
read them -- don't send anything in an email that you wouldn't want to
read in tomorrow's newspape
------------------------------

In short, email (as currently structured) is simply not an effective
way of communicating privately. And, unlike ye olde "steam the
envelope open", snooping email can leave no fingerprints, cause no
delays, smudge no inks, or anything else.

I don't see what the big deal is. Then again, I surrendered my "right
to privacy" several years ago, so hey. As it is, when someone does
something without prior notice, then it's unethical. When someone
claims upfront that the situation is "x" and you agree to it (by
asking for an account, for instance), complaining about the situation
is pretty damned silly.

If you don't like the idea of being kicked in the balls, don't sign a
contract that says "Will surrender $4 billion dollars to the
undersigned after said undersigned recieves a kick to the balls from
Mr. Angry Thai Boxer."

Just a thought.

;)

[backing up slightly]

> If they add a RSS aggregator in Gmail they will probably
> use the same "you see my relevant (sic) ads" system ?
> Feeds may be displayed like emails while their bot will
> be scanning the feeds...

Probably. Not sure how they could manage it for feeds that are just
cartoon strips (like above) but then maybe they might do it based on
URL or site or something. Dunno. Still wouldn't bother me -- I don't
bother to look at the right sixth (roughly) of my screen, and as it is
all just computer-scanned and -generated, it doesn't bother me much.

Heck, if you wanna avoid even that, use a simple ROT13 conversion.

Or wait for the for-pay version of Gmail. ;)

[Gail]

I missed the original email that this was in....but how does someone
with a Gmail account be *surprised* by the ads? Besides, they are
the same ads you get if you use Google to search. And if you don't
like how Google does things...why use their email?

> > It's out of topic but IMHO Gmail has not ethics because
> > they implicitely consider that email is not private
> > information - it's irritating me to see "relevant" (sic²) ads.
> > It's a subjective appreciation of course)
>

I guess I'm weird, I kinda like the ads.

[Ryan]

That's exactly what it does. It makes it easier to filter messages and
it is a nice little mailing list tradition.

[Kendel]

> I guess I'm weird, I kinda like the ads.

Okay that IS weird. :)

I wouldn't go so far as to say I like the ads, but I do get a kick out
of them from time to time -- like when a discussion of the card game
Munchkin triggers ads for Munchkin baby supplies.

[Mayuresh Kadu]

You should try their weather watch, hotmail inbox watcher, stocks
watcher. They've got one for cartoons, RSS feeds, i built one for my
weblog at http://www.klipfarm.com/farm.php?page=info&klip=3233 :)

Pretty cool app, i must say :)

- Mayuresh

"Man is not made for defeat, he can be destroyed but not defeated" -
Ernest Hemingway

[Fanis Hatzidakis]

I know, I had it running for a while :)
I have a bunch from moreover.com, theregister, slashdot, wired,
boingboing, and a few more. I don't care much about hotmail or stock
exchange, but I'll certainly look into the cartoon one :)

Fanis