Re: [Gmail-Users] Is it possible to see the last email first (on top when you open conversation)? And snippet of last, not first or random?

[Marko Vukovic]

Hi 

Please don't 'shout' here. We are just fellow users like yourself. A simple hello before your rant would also be nice. 

As I understand it, when you click on a conversation, Gmail will 'focus' on the first unread message in the thread, not the latest received. 

On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 12:04 PM, IvyNut <gina....@gmail.com> wrote:

I am incredibly frustrated with Gmail. I liked that emails from same address are grouped into conversations displayed in tabs. But lately, everytime I open one of the conversations it will open to a random email within that conversation, but never the last one received, which is incredibly annoying because you then have to keep closing tabs until you get to the last one... EVERYTIME YOU CHECK YOUR NEW MAIL. And the snippet of the message you see in the inbox is also the first and oldest email on that conversation or just a random one. Ugh, I've looked everywhere in the settings and nothing seems to fix this, there doesn't seem to be a logic behind it either, it just randomly picks whichever message and then you seem to be stuck with it, cause that's the one you will see FOREVER.

This is ridiculous!

I don't understand, I've used it for years but I feel like we're going backwards. THIS IS NOT USER FRIENDLY AT ALL. Please tell me there is a way to fix this or that 'm blind and can't find the right setting to fix this because otherwise, I'm done. I'm switching to another email client.

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[Andy]

On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 6:04 AM, IvyNut <gina....@gmail.com> wrote:

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 there doesn't seem to be a logic behind it either, it just randomly picks whichever message and then you seem to be stuck with it, cause that's the one you will see FOREVER.

My experience differs from yours.  I don't see the random behavior.  I think it is logical.

When you open a conversation normally (not from having done a Search), Gmail opens on the oldest unread message in that conversation.  Newer unread messages are also open but might be scrolled below the bottom of the screen.  If there are no unread messages, it opens the last one received.

If you first do a Search, and then open a conversation from the results of that Search, Gmail opens the messages in that conversation containing text from your Search.  The oldest message passing the Search criteria will be the one displayed first.

As far as I know, those are the two rules Gmail uses.  It always seems to hold true for me.

The snippets also seem to be from the oldest unread message ... but I don't pay a great deal of attention to them because they are too short for my tastes.

Since you have already seen what options are available to you (from the Settings menus), I'm sure you already know that there are no controls for changing the order in which messages are displayed.  Gmail orders messages in chronological order, and conversations in reverse chronological order.  I don't like the lack of flexibility, but I am willing to live with it.

I hear there are add-ons that may change the appearance of Gmail, but I have not used those.

 I'm switching to another email client.

I don't consider Gmail to be an email client, but I suppose some might.  I consider it an email server, which also has a web interface.  You can either use or ignore the web interface.

By all means, use an email client (Thunderbird, Eudora, whatever suits you) if it makes you happy.

Andy