Screenshots

[DEP/dodo]

Here's a new request for assistance.  At work I am able to copy a screenshot ("Prt Scr") into my Outlook e-mail.  However, I cannot do this with Gmail, at least not until someone tells me how to do it.  Thank you.  ~Dodo

[Ryan Morehart]

The quickest way to do what you want is a bit longer than you're used
to, but not hard. Take the screenshot like usual, open up Paint
(Start->Programs->Accessories->Paint), paste the screenshot in, then
save it. You probably want to change the format it saves as to JPEG or
PNG (right below the box you type the name for the file). Attach the
image to the email or I think there's a Lab that lets you embed images
in the email.

Ryan

[Dodo]

Thank you, Ryan. I will try it. What is "PNG"? Is "PDF" available
here? Guess I'll find out when I try it. ~Dodo

[Dodo]

It worked great! In addition to PNG, what are GIF and TIFF? I am
familiar only with JPEG and PDF. ~Dodo

[Ryan Morehart]

They're all just different image formats. PDF isn't available from
Paint as I'm sure you saw, because it's not intended to be used to
store just one image (the file would take up way more space than
necessary). It doesn't particularly matter between gif, png, and jpeg,
they're all just different ways of storing the same information and
some will make smaller file sizes in some situations than others.
You'll likely never care or notice a difference between gif and png
because both are "lossless" formats, meaning they look exactly like
the original image. JPEG, on the other hand, is "lossy," so it
actually intentionally doesn't store the exact same picture as the
original. For photos, where jpeg is used almost all the time, this is
unnoticeable and greatly reduces the file size, but for screenshots
it's usually not the best idea because you'll be able to areas which
are sort of fuzzy and not true, pure colors.

In short, I'd use png for screenshots, but it doesn't make a huge
difference. Just not BMP, for the love of God. That wastes a ton of
space. :)

Ryan

[JohnW]

> I think there's a Lab that lets you embed images in the email.

It's called "Inserting Images" (by Kent T), and when enabled, puts a
new icon on the message formatting bar.
When used, it prompts for the location of the image file (be it on the
web or on the local HDD) and inserts the picture/image directly into
the message.

Incidentally, as an alternative to taking screenshots and processing
in Paint, why not simply Copy the screen contents (highlight with the
dragged mouse and then Ctrl C, to copy) and then just Paste (Ctrl V)
it into Word, or if you need it into Outlook/OE. [Not suitable for
every situation, but a lot quicker!!]

BTW, if you are a M$ Paint user, try the "Paint.NET" offshoot. It's
free, written by the same M$ programmers (but as free/donation
software) and is considerably better in all ways!

[Siddagari Lohith]

nice to hear...
PNG - Portable Network Graphics
GIF   - Graphic Interchange Format
TIFF  - Tagged Image File Format

These r diff types of file formats for image...

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[JohnW]

> In addition to PNG, what are GIF and TIFF?

PDF = Portable Document Format
GIF = Graphics Interchange Format

TIFF - Tagged Image File Format

JPEG = Joint Picture Experts Group
PNG = Portable Network Graphic
BMP = Bit MaP
TGA = TarGA format

Use http://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/

[Siddagari Lohith]

First save the prt scr using a image editor like " Paint " n then import that saved picture to ur outlook  e-mail...

On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 9:14 AM, DEP/dodo <depf...@gmail.com> wrote:

Here's a new request for assistance.  At work I am able to copy a screenshot ("Prt Scr") into my Outlook e-mail.  However, I cannot do this with Gmail, at least not until someone tells me how to do it.  Thank you.  ~Dodo

[DEP/dodo]

Thanks to all.  Ryan, thanks in particular for your recommendations.  ~Dodo

[DEP/dodo]

Ryan mentioned that Lab, but I didn't find it.  With your specifics, perhaps I will now.  With regard to your alternative suggestion, JohnW, as I mentioned in my original post, I do copy/paste at work, where we use Outlook for e-mail.  However, this doesn't work with Gmail, which is what prompted my question.  I primarily was interested for e-mail usage.  ~Dodo

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[DEP/dodo]

I have now enabled that particular lab.  Images such as photos I've taken generally work (except some have taken so long to appear that I've canceled).  I haven't yet been successful with a URL--nothing happens, not even that little turning icon.  So I may be doing something wrong, although I don't know what.

On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 2:23 AM, JohnW <john.w...@gmail.com> wrote:

[JohnW]

On Jul 27, 3:58 am, "DEP/dodo" <depfah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>  With regard to your alternative suggestion, JohnW, as I
> mentioned in my original post, I do copy/paste at work, where we use Outlook
> for e-mail.  However, this doesn't work with Gmail, which is what prompted
> my question.  I primarily was interested for e-mail usage.  ~Dodo

It really depends on precisely *why* you're using screenshots and
therefore Paint.
If it's purely for the purpose of transferring the content of a
displayed e-mail, then Copy/Paste into Word works perfectly fine on
the body text. If you want all the peripheral info (like Subject and
Sender details) I agree, Copy/Paste doesn't - but then in Word you can
add that info to the text anyway. Once you have that in Word, you can
then Copy/Paste that into OE/Lookout as you do at work, or into Gmail.

To add URLs to messages in Gmail, then you need to use the "Chain"
link icon.

[DEP/dodo]

I enabled that "inserting images" lab and have had moderate success while experimenting.  Specifically, I have been able to insert a photo (some not or maybe they take too long to download and I haven't had the patience to wait . . . and wait . . . and wait.  Is that "normal"?  With regard to URLs, I haven't had success with that yet.  I didn't understand your reference, John, to the "Chain" link icon.  ~Dodo

[JohnW]

DEP/Dodo,
I was referring to the icon just to the left of the first (numbered)
Bullet point icon.
It looks like 3 links of a chain, and allows you to insert links/urls
to websites, etc.
This was given in response to your "I haven't yet been successful with
a URL".
But if it worries you, just ignore it/me. I'll go away and shut up.

[DEP/dodo]

John:
I absolutely will not ignore you because I think you have something to teach me.  I still don't "get it," however.  If you have the patience and fortitude, will you guide me to such an icon?  I think I know what you mean by the "3 links of a chain" but am lost as to "the icon just to the left of the first (numbered) Bullet point icon."

On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 7:12 PM, JohnW <john.w...@gmail.com> wrote:

DEP/Dodo,
I was referring to the icon just to the left of the first (numbered)
Bullet point icon.
It looks like 3 links of a chain, and allows you to insert links/urls
to websites, etc.
This was given in response to your "I haven't yet been successful with
a URL".
But if it worries you, just ignore it/me. I'll go away and shut up.

[JohnW]

In the 'Compose mail' window (in Rich Text mode) the formatting bar
has
buttons for: (in order)
Bold, Italic, Underlined, Font, Size, Colour, Highlight, Emoticons,
Insert Images, Insert URL, Number items, Bullet items, Out-dent,
In-dent, Quote, LH Align, Centre, RH Align, and (finally) Clear
formatting.
Then there's the button to switch to Plain text mode!!
The Insert URL looks like 3 links of a chain which are underlined
(as a url will be, to signify that it is a url!)
I hope you have all those in 'your' formatting bar - the only one
which I think is optional, is the Insert Images (looks like a Mountain
picture!).

Hope that explains it adequately.

[John Isner]

1P = 1000W

[DEP/dodo]

Now I see what you were referring to!  "A picture is worth . . ."!!!  However, more questions:

1. Since I now have that "Insert Image" icon, why can't I make that work?  Someone suggested I was confusing adding the URL of an image with the URL of the page the image is on.  The part that is accurate is that I am confused.  Sounds like double-talk.
2. I have been able to use that image icon for photos on my computer.  But are they supposed to appear so large that it is necessary to scroll?
3. How do I apply the info you've provided to uploading a URL image? 
4. How did you do the red circle around the link icon?
5. What does "1P = 1000W" mean?
6. How many more questions do I get?

Seriously, I appreciate the time you're taking to educate me--and, hopefully, others.
~Dodo

[Ryan Morehart]

On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 3:53 PM, DEP/dodo<depf...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Now I see what you were referring to!  "A picture is worth . . ."!!! 
> However, more questions:
>
> Since I now have that "Insert Image" icon, why can't I make that work? 
> Someone suggested I was confusing adding the URL of an image with the URL of
> the page the image is on.  The part that is accurate is that I am confused. 
> Sounds like double-talk.
> I have been able to use that image icon for photos on my computer.  But are
> they supposed to appear so large that it is necessary to scroll?

Initially they might. However, if you click the image Gmail will give you some sizing options along the bottom left edge.

> How do I apply the info you've provided to uploading a URL image? 

You actually can't. What John's method will do is let someone click a link to view the image, which isn't what you want I think.

To embed an image from the web, click on the Insert Image button (the one that the Lab gave you), click on the link for "Web Address (URL)" on the side of the dialog that opens, then paste the URL to the image that you want. In most browsers, the easiest way to get that URL is to right click on the image, then choose the "Copy image URL" option. Internet Explorer is lame and doesn't give it to you in a nice way like that.

> How did you do the red circle around the link icon?

Just some image editor. Paint can do it even, just the circle tool with a red foreground and no background (I'm pretty sure on that).

> What does "1P = 1000W" mean?

A picture is worth 1000 words. :)

[Worth Banner]

One more possibility--OpenOffice Writer (if you don't already have it,
it's a free download that mimics Microsoft Word for word processing
and allows you to open Word, Excel, and Powerpoint docs without
Microsoft Office). Just open Writer, paste your PrtScrn doc in the
window, name it, and then you can export it as a PDF doc if you wish.

Worth

[DEP/dodo]

After much time and effort, I've now done it all!  See the following.

Dodo:  I have been able to use that image icon for photos on my computer.  But are they supposed to appear so large that it is necessary to scroll?

Ryan:  Initially they might. However, if you click the image Gmail will give you some sizing options along the bottom left edge.

Dodo:  I hadn't even noticed when I tried previously!

Dodo:  How do I apply the info you've provided to uploading a URL image?

Ryan:  You actually can't . What John's method will do is let someone click a link to view the image, which isn't what you want I think.

Dodo:  I don't think so either.  I just wanted to understand how to use that Lab.  I don't really understand your explanation of John's method.

Ryan:  To embed an image from the web, click on the Insert Image button (the one that the Lab gave you), click on the link for "Web Address (URL)" on the side of the dialog that opens, then paste the URL to the image that you want. In most browsers, the easiest way to get that URL is to right click on the image, then choose the "Copy image URL" option. Internet Explorer is lame and doesn't give it to you in a nice way like that.

Dodo:  Your directions finally worked for me after a bit of experimentation.  I also discovered the option to just copy the image, which effected the same result.

Dodo:  How did you do the red circle around the link icon?

Ryan:  Just some image editor. Paint can do it even, just the circle tool with a red foreground and no background (I'm pretty sure on that).

Dodo:  You were right again, Ryan.  I experimented with it all.  I've just never had the need to use Paint.  I like learning all this new "stuff," knowing I can use it if the need arises.  That's why I will keep these posts.

I thank you and John for all the help.  You may recall you've assisted me in the past.

Dodo:  What does "1P = 1000W" mean?

Ryan:  A picture is worth 1000 words. :)

Dodo:  Duhhh!  Believe it or not, that isn't the reason for my nickname of Dodo!

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[DEP/dodo]

John, I don't know if you want to expand on this.  What I've done is copied the URL at the top of a Web page and pasted it into Gmail.  Doesn't this get the same result?  For example:  http://www.dailyjournal.com/

I'm now trying the "chain link icon":
http://www.dailyjournal.com/

What's the difference from what I did above?  (Incidentally, a blue information bar has disappeared.)  As I compose this, the URL has color while my first one is black.  However, once it is sent, it is "colorized" in the sent version.
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~Dodo

[Ryan Morehart]

The difference is that with the first link, Gmail is automatically making in clickable for you when you view the message. Not all email systems will be that nice (most will). With the second, you're telling it to make a link and you could actually make the text something other than the URL it's pointing to. For example, I could point you to help with POP in Gmail, rather than the much less descriptive http://mail.google.com/support/bin/topic.py?hl=en&topic=12805

Ryan

[Dodo]

I don't think I understood all that. I can say, however, that even
though one link or URL (or whatever it's called) is "much less
descriptive," the destination is still the same, so what does it
matter?

On Jul 30, 4:37 am, Ryan Morehart <moreh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The difference is that with the first link, Gmail is automatically making in
> clickable for you when you view the message. Not all email systems will be
> that nice (most will). With the second, you're telling it to make a link and
> you could actually make the text something other than the URL it's pointing
> to. For example, I could point you to help with POP in

> Gmail<http://mail.google.com/support/bin/topic.py?hl=en&topic=12805>,

[Zack (Doc)]

What matters is the receiving person's ability to get the information.  In your first one, if the person is using GMail or a reading program the automatically makes URLs (the proper name, link is like a nickname) then they'll have a link to click and view it.  If they are using a less helpful program, they'll have to select it, do a copy and paste into their browser (IE, Firefox, Chrome, Safari, etc).  The second example will work for everyone, as the "link" to click on is created when you send it, instead of when they receive it.  That's probably the simplest answer, "The difference is when the 'link' is created.  The first is when the person receives/reads it; the second is when you send it.  Some people's programs may not create the link when they receive it."

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Frank Leahy  - "Egotism is the anesthetic that dulls the pain of stupidity."

[DEP/dodo]

Easy for you to say.

[DEP/dodo]

I did it!  There was something I wanted to do and was able with my new-found Paint knowledge.  A week ago I wouldn't have been able to provide the graphics to illustrate what I meant (1P = 1000W)!  Please see my post here of a few minutes ago.  Thank you to my mentors!  ~Dodo

[DEP/dodo]

Oops!  My success went to my head!  The post to which I was referring is in this group under the topic "Another Calendar Question."

[Zack (Doc)]

Success is success.  Feel free to celebrate it :)

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[jisner]

If you take a lot of screenshots (as I do), for posting to help forums
or writing technical documentation, consider spending a few dollars on
SnagIt, a Windows-based program designed specifically for quickly
grabbing and annotating screenshots. Because it is specifically
designed for this purpose, SnagIt is much easier to use than a generic
painting program. It is one of my all-time favorite apps.

Incidentally, I am not connected in any way with TechSmith (the
company that makes SnagIt). If there were an open source alternative
that worked as well as SnagIt, I would use it.

[Sean Murphy]

    Or consider installing any of a number of free screen capture programs that work as well. I favor "Screenshot Captor" myself...

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