Send email to large list

[P&L]

I have a list of about 700 people I would like to be able to send an
email to. I don't want to split the list up and have heard that there
is a 500 recipient limit. Does anybody know of any products or
services that would allow me to send an email to this list?

Thanks,
Paul

[Nick Chirchirillo]

Try Google Groups (http://groups.google.com)
When you set up the group, you can just invite all the people you want to be able to send the email to.  With this, you will then only have to send the email to one email address ( grou...@googlegroups.com) and Google Groups will send a copy to everyone.  Also, you don't look like a spammer in GMail's eyes by doing this :)

[Doug Weller]

And the big question is whether these people have asked P&L to send
them email.
Paul, Google or Yahoo Groups are a good way to do this, but you'll
have to invite them to join.
Doug

On Jan 11, 9:33 pm, "Nick Chirchirillo" <nickma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Try Google Groups (http://groups.google.com)
> When you set up the group, you can just invite all the people you want to be
> able to send the email to. With this, you will then only have to send the

> email to one email address (grou...@googlegroups.com) and Google Groups

> will send a copy to everyone. Also, you don't look like a spammer in
> GMail's eyes by doing this :)
>

[Andrew Ingraham]

> Google or Yahoo Groups are a good way to do this, but you'll
> have to invite them to join.

With Googlegroups or Yahoogroups, yes.

There are other maillist management services out there, some of which don't
require the user to sign him/herself up to it.

Andy

[worth...@gmail.com]

Could Andy name such services that don't require recipient signup,
please? Is there anything about using such a service with GMail that
violates the terms of service? Thanks.

Worth

[Doug Weller]

Hi Worth
(My brother's name is Worth, by the way).
I might be able to. I don't mean to be rude, but how do we know you
don't want to spam, if even in a small way? If the recipients haven't
given you specific permission to email them, that is spam. And illegal
in some countries.
Doug

On Jan 13, 12:58 pm, "worthban...@gmail.com" <worthban...@gmail.com>
wrote:

[worth...@gmail.com]

Hi Doug,

No, I'm not a spammer--retired and living off the fat of the land. I
have no use at the moment for a mailing of more than 500 recipients--
just curious as to how I'd go about it using gmail if I had occasion
to. As to your point regarding specific permission, I personally
wouldn't be sending anything to anyone who didn't want to receive it,
but that's not really the same as getting specific permission in
advance. Example: I do some investing for a friend of mine-- once,
when out of the country, I wanted to send him an email which required
rapid action on his part right after I had changed to gmail. His ISP,
Earthlink, requires his advance approval of all email senders, so my
note didn't make it to his inbox in time. He'd have wanted it but it
was shunted aside. More generally, do you or does anyone get specific
permission to send each email from gmail? Of course not---you assume
the person who's getting it will (probably) want to get it--and
there's nothing magic about 500 emails a day using that criterion from
the perspective of either the sender or the recipient, though I can
certainly understand Google's limitation from their perspective.
Anyway, I'd appreciate the information if you care to give it
(privately, if that works better for you) and I can appreciate your
caution. Thanks.

Worth

On Jan 13, 8:33 am, Doug Weller <dougwel...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Worth
> (My brother's name is Worth, by the way).
> I might be able to. I don't mean to be rude, but how do we know you

> Idon't want to spam, if even in a small way?  If the recipients haven't

> given you specific permission to email them, that is spam. And illegal
> in some countries.
> Doug
>
> On Jan 13, 12:58 pm, "worthban...@gmail.com" <worthban...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Could Andy name such services that don't require recipient signup,
> > please?  Is there anything about using such a service with GMail that
> > violates the terms of service?  Thanks.
>
> > Worth
>
> > On Jan 12, 3:08 pm, Andrew Ingraham <andrew.ingra...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > >  Google or Yahoo Groups are a good way to do this, but you'll
> > > > have to invite them to join.
>
> > > With Googlegroups or Yahoogroups, yes.
>
> > > There are other maillist management services out there, some of which don't
> > > require the user to sign him/herself up to it.
>

> > > Andy- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

[Doug Weller]

Hi Worth,
I don't see how this would help your friend, but if you don't want to
use Google groups, I've found that some website hosts also provide
mailing list software when you buy space/domain from them.

And then there is Bravenet for instance:

http://www.bravenet.com/webtools/elist/

No ISP is likely to take kindly to large numbers of identical emails.
That's what mailing lists are for and it looks as though that is what
you need. But if that's wrong, if you are sending huge numbers of non-
identical emails a day, you will just have to shop around. See what
Fastmail.fm provides. You may still have to pay.

Doug

On Jan 14, 2:10 pm, "worthban...@gmail.com" <worthban...@gmail.com>
wrote:

[worth...@gmail.com]

Hi Doug,

Thanks for the info--I wasn't even aware of the concept of email
mailing lists. To clarify one thing--my point about my friend was
that requiring specific permission in advance can work to the
detriment of the recipient. My son, another example, has such an
screening aspect to his law firm's email and has lost clients who got
the message that they had to be approved but before emailing him. He
likes it, on balance, because he gets no spam, but he and the firm pay
a price in the form of sender aggravation. To me, GMail's spam filter
is so effective that I feel no need to screen senders in advance.

Worth

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[Doug Weller]

Hi Worth
Glad I could help. I don't like that pre-approval method either,
especially when used by private individuals. A good Bayesian filter
normally works sufficiently well.
Doug

On Jan 14, 8:19 pm, "worthban...@gmail.com" <worthban...@gmail.com>

[Andrew Ingraham]

> Could Andy name such services that don't require recipient signup,
> please?

I'm no expert on mail lists. I've just belonged to various mail lists for
what must be close to two decades now, so I know that they exist in various
forms.

"Majordomo," "Listserv," and "Ezmlm" are some of the names I've heard over
the years. Presumably they are software packages that run on someone's
computer that help manage email lists. If you google 'mail list software'
or similar, you may find others.

Then along came Egroups/Onelist/Yahoogroups, and they (I don't know if they
were the first to do this) extended the concept of maillists to include a
webpage and server space to store the messages and related files. Which you
might not need. They are beyond the needs of a basic maillist.
Yahoogroups/Googlegroups come with the added protection (or nuisance,
depending on one's point of view) of requiring each user to sign themselves
up, rather than allowing the administrator the ability to manage the actual
list of subscriber email addresses.

Andy