Opera Web Browser now supports Gmail and Google Groups

[hoss]

For all you Opera users out there. I did not know until today but the
new beta for Opera 8 (build 4710)
ftp://ftp.opera.com/pub/opera/win/800b1/en/
has support for both Gmail and Google Groups.

[Derek]

the previous builds of opera worked fine with gmail. i used to use 7.6
and it worked fine.

[hoss]

I always had problems with 7.6. Gmail always thought I had my cookies
off and I could never get past the loading phase or when I did I was
presented with a sparkly blank page

However, now, in playing with Gmail in Opera a bit more, it looks like
the spell check feature does not provide suggestions for misspelled
words.

[Scott Villarosa]

hmmm... firefox has *always* worked with gmail, and it's free. :]

[Kass Lloyd (raeky)]

Opera's free too if you don't mind Google ads. :D The version I have
dosn't work with Gmail, so I've been useing Firefox. But as soon as
Opera supports Gmail this firefox crap is uninstalled... Opera is
truely WAY better feature wise. (At least features I care about..
heh).

[hoss]

I know that firefox has always worked with Gmail but I also think that
Opera is the way. though firefox is definitely the best alternate
choice for me.

[Scott Villarosa]

are we talking about the best browser for gmail? if so, then i would have to
say firefox, too.

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[Ashok Chandran]

me too.firefox is the best browser 8-)

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[Kass Lloyd (raeky)]

Hmm.. firefox is nice, definitely better then IE. But Opera has
features that firefox dosn't (yet). If firefox gets features like
Opera then I would glady switch. :D

But so long as Gmail/Opera are not operateing together i get to play
with Firefox. So I can decide for myself. Hehe.. i think firefox uses
less resources though.. which is a plus on it's side. And the plugin
thing looks nice, exploreing that. :D

[Scott Villarosa]

so, why doesn't opera work with gmail?

[Derek]

last time i tried opera it worked just fine with gmail.

im curious to hear what features opera has that are better then
firefox? i find that hard to believe.

[Chrissie]

There's a couple of things I miss (I used opera almost exclusively
until I tried out firefox, cos I couldn't log in to gmail in opera and
I refused to use IE (spits in a bucket) - the main feature I miss at
the moment is that opera remembers all the pages you had open and
reloads them - firefox only did that with a plugin, and it hasn't been
updated to work with the current build - at least it hadn't last time
I checked. I also like the 'wand' (remember password) feature, cos it
gave me a choice of logins. Most of the other features are available
as plugins for firefox, which is fine cos it makes it more
customisable (if there is such a word).

Have to admit tho I hardly ever fire opera up these days, I'm a firefox convert.

Not sure how much of that made sense, it's 1:30am here and I'm off to bed:-)

Chrissie

On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 08:47:11 -0800, Derek <derek.p...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> last time i tried opera it worked just fine with gmail.
>
> im curious to hear what features opera has that are better then
> firefox? i find that hard to believe.

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[tacosa...@gmail.com]

That's nice but I think i will stick with <a
href="http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/">Firefox</a>

[Kass Lloyd (raeky)]

probably because opera more strictly follows the CSS and JavaScript
standards.. IE and I guess Firefox (trying to be more compatable with
IE i bet) uses alot of non-standard stuff. That i guess gmail takes
advantage of.

[Derek]

what? i thought firefox was the most web compliant browser out there.
lots of web developers use firefox for their needs.

[Kass Lloyd (raeky)]

I also like in Opera the ability to disable images on a page, and the
ability to just display already downloaded (cached) images instead of
fetching more. Useful when I browse forums on dialup. Alot of people
with MASSIVE images for their signatures and avatars. Theres more
features in Opera that i like but can't remember them at the moment..
heh

[Kass Lloyd (raeky)]

well Opera strictly follows the standards. IE dosn't do anything of
the sort. I presume Firefox is trying to be more compatable with sites
that work only on IE, therefore its probably implemnting alot of the
non-standard stuff IE does. Since Opera dosn't do those (they probably
are adding it in the new 8.0 i presume), its not fully compatable with
sites that have crazy CSS and JavaScript stuff, unless those was
written to the standards.

I'm going to guess that Gmail wasn't written to the standards, and
instead took advantage of some of the "imporovements" in IE and
Firefox.

[Derek]

i highly dount that firefox is trying to be like IE. IE is the worst
model to follow.


On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 15:09:21 -0500, Kass Lloyd (raeky)

[Kishyr Ramdial]

On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 12:07:04 -0800, Derek <derek.p...@gmail.com> wrote:

> what? i thought firefox was the most web compliant browser out there.
> lots of web developers use firefox for their needs.

It is. http://www.mozilla.org/support/firefox/faq#q1.2
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On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 12:12:20 -0800, Derek <derek.p...@gmail.com> wrote:
> i highly dount that firefox is trying to be like IE. IE is the worst
> model to follow.

Lol. Try telling that to AOL (the guys who fund the Mozilla
Foundation) http://www.betanews.com/article/AOL_Beta_Tests_IE_Based_Browser/1097539433

[Michael Keating]

if America online founded mozilla why dont they give users an option
to use firefox in their app???? what are they buddy buddy with M$$$?

America Online is the most proprietary piece of crap out there!!!!
(AIM is pretty open source)

[Derek]

ok not to burst everyones bubble.. but we should probably get back on
subject as far as gmail is concerned. it's nice and all dogging MS but
i have a feeling this topic needs to get back on subject.

[Scott Villarosa]

okay, but lets keep this rel to gmail eh... not a browser war discussion.

[Scott Villarosa]

this has so much stuff wrong with it it's quite laughable....

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[Derek]

lol that's what i was thinking

[Scott Villarosa]

perhaps this conversation should be moved to the lounge?

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[JIM]

It will, just be patient for the next month and Opera & Gmail will work
together just fine. Opera is very close to a new release.

[Sri Kat]

I am afraid this is not the right forum to discuss this. If one of us
could start this topic in the lounge, I'll be happy to add my inputs
:)

On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 08:47:11 -0800, Derek <derek.p...@gmail.com> wrote:
>

> last time i tried opera it worked just fine with gmail.
>
> im curious to hear what features opera has that are better then
> firefox? i find that hard to believe.
>
>
> > so, why doesn't opera work with gmail?
> >

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[Scott Villarosa]

if it's related to using opera with gmail it is. post again on the lounge if
you've got something different to add. :]

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[hoss]

I would guess that opera does not work because it does, or did , not
have XMLHttpRequest support. though I don't know too much about the
standard. does anyone else know?

[Scott Villarosa]

no, i haven't looked into this at all.

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