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[Scott Villarosa]

could it be that web clips are on the way?

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From: Aimless Words - GMail News and Software [mailto:aimle...@gmail.com]
Posted At: Wednesday, 4 May 2005 10:09 AM
Posted To: Aimless Words - GMail News and Software
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Subject: » Gmail Clips Roll Out Slowly  InsideGoogle - part of the Blog News Channel

http://www.aimlesswords.com/archives/20050503/_gmail_clips_roll_out_slowlyin/

I don't know about everyone else but I want my links. I have yet to receive the clips upgrade: Well, its been 19 days since Google started rolling out Web Clips to some Gmail users, and many (myself included) are still waiting. Danny Sullivan just got it, and he's got more information and screenshots. He reports that Web Clips comes with three feeds already subscribed to... (Via InsideGoogle.)...

Related...

[Jonathan L. Piper]

I would truly love for them to put Web Clips in to full roll-out but I'm not sure if they are going to do that just yet. With Web Clips we now have three styles of Ad's floating around, with the Ad's on the right hand side still being the dominate. One thing to support you is they took down the New Features link, but at the same time that has no true barring. They have already stated in the past this is a Limited Testing. It does however state "it may become more widely available in the future". It is an awesome tool, useful feature and I have even been more likely to click on Ad's.

- Jonathan L. Piper

[Allen Day]

On 5/4/05, Scott Villarosa <sjvi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>

> could it be that web clips are on the way?

This is one feature I've been quite excited about -- I couldn't have
cared less about the rich formatting or integration with Picasa -- but
webclips ought to be cool. I'm still hoping for an actual integrated
feed reader, though--the gmail interface would be absolutely perfect
for feed reading. Keyboard shortcuts, fast and efficient interface,
tags . . . mmm

--
The public health authorities never mention the main reason many
Americans have for smoking heavily, which is that smoking is a fairly
sure, fairly honorable form of suicide. ~Kurt Vonnegut

[Darryl Rayburn]

I think it will be sooner rather than later. I think Google's sharp
enough to realize that giving only a handful of users a nice feature
that alot of others might want is counterproductive in the end.

On 5/4/05, Jonathan L. Piper <jlp...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I would truly love for them to put Web Clips in to full roll-out but I'm not
> sure if they are going to do that just yet. With Web Clips we now have three
> styles of Ad's floating around, with the Ad's on the right hand side still
> being the dominate. One thing to support you is they took down the New
> Features link, but at the same time that has no true barring. They have
> already stated in the past this is a Limited Testing. It does however state
> "it may become more widely available in the future". It is an awesome tool,
> useful feature and I have even been more likely to click on Ad's.
>
> - Jonathan L. Piper
>
>
> On 5/4/05, Scott Villarosa <sjvi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > could it be that web clips are on the way?
> >
> > ________________________________
> From: Aimless Words - GMail News and Software [mailto:aimle...@gmail.com]
> > Posted At: Wednesday, 4 May 2005 10:09 AM
> > Posted To: Aimless Words - GMail News and Software

> > Conversation: » Gmail Clips Roll Out Slowly InsideGoogle - part of the
> Blog News Channel
> > Subject: » Gmail Clips Roll Out Slowly InsideGoogle - part of the Blog

[Derek]

Why would it be counter-productive to give all Gmail users new features?

On 5/7/05, Darryl Rayburn <dray...@gmail.com > wrote:

I think it will be sooner rather than later. I think Google's sharp
enough to realize that giving only a handful of users a nice feature
that alot of others might want is counterproductive in the end.

On 5/4/05, Jonathan L. Piper <jlp...@gmail.com > wrote:
> I would truly love for them to put Web Clips in to full roll-out but I'm not
> sure if they are going to do that just yet. With Web Clips we now have three
> styles of Ad's floating around, with the Ad's on the right hand side still
> being the dominate. One thing to support you is they took down the New
> Features link, but at the same time that has no true barring. They have
> already stated in the past this is a Limited Testing. It does however state
> "it may become more widely available in the future". It is an awesome tool,
> useful feature and I have even been more likely to click on Ad's.
>
>  - Jonathan L. Piper
>
>
> On 5/4/05, Scott Villarosa <sjvi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > could it be that web clips are on the way?
> >
> > ________________________________
>  From: Aimless Words - GMail News and Software [mailto:aimle...@gmail.com]
> > Posted At: Wednesday, 4 May 2005 10:09 AM
> > Posted To: Aimless Words - GMail News and Software

> > Conversation: » Gmail Clips Roll Out Slowly  InsideGoogle - part of the
> Blog News Channel
> > Subject: » Gmail Clips Roll Out Slowly  InsideGoogle - part of the Blog

[Darryl Rayburn]

How is it productive to hold out for other than technical reasons?
People who are using gmail already don't need any incentive to
continue doing so- in fact, for some, if the web clips thing gets
dragged out as long as the beta phase apparently is, then it might
lead to some sort of resentment on the part of those who are already
users. And you can't tell me gmail isn't sensitive to PR ;)

[Darryl Rayburn]

but continuing a little, doesn't anyone else think that this has been
an unusually long beta period? I wonder when we're all finally going
to get a finished product? I know Google moves according its own clock
but jeeeez

[Derek]

Good question. Gmail has been in beta for over a year now. We've received some great features... but none have carried the wow factor that the initial release carried. Google does have a way of dragging its beta periods longer then any other company. Maybe, just maybe, Google is waiting to implement IMAP support before considering coming out of beta. The only free email service I know of that offeres free IMAP support is fastmail.

Hopefully Gmail is trying to implement features to sway professional users and companies into switching to adopting Gmail?

[Darryl Rayburn]

I agree...don't get me wrong, I really do enjoy Gmail and no matter
how big it gets I think as long as Google maintains its current
attitude it will always be far superior to the M$ products and (I'd
say) Yahoo as well. BTW web clips are really cool ;)

[Allen Day]

On 5/7/05, Darryl Rayburn <dray...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> but continuing a little, doesn't anyone else think that this has been
> an unusually long beta period?

Google has made it pretty clear that they don't handle the beta label
in the same manner as most software companies--they're not into
immediate gratification. Their policy is to hold it in beta for as
long as they plan on adding significant new features -- they're not
going to release it as official and then continue pouring out new
features. So, while they're working on the webclips and whatever else
they have up their sleeve, it's going to sit in beta.

So I don't sound like I'm pulling this out of my ass, see below ;)
<<<
Google is known for releasing new services as beta tests and keeping
them in beta indefinitely, often for years. Such services as Google
News, Froogle, Gmail and Google Local remain betas, though Google has
heavily promoted them to users.

Asked about Google's beta policy, cofounder Larry Page explained that
Google keeps products and services in beta as long as its engineers
expect to continue to make major changes to them. Google's betas also
are central to its identity.

"Google itself was in beta for a very substantial number of years,"
said Page, who is president of products. "Part of our brand is that we
under-promise and we over-deliver, and being in beta is part of that.
It's part of our branding strategy."
>>>

Source: http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1763397,00.asp

So those impatient and made antsy by the presence of a "beta" tag
probably would do well to avoid google products ;)

[Darryl Rayburn]

Thanks for that info :) I guess we can expect an indefinite beta
period then, since all services change (or *should* change, to avoid
becoming stagnant).

[Allen Day]

On 5/7/05, Darryl Rayburn <dray...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks for that info :) I guess we can expect an indefinite beta
> period then, since all services change (or *should* change, to avoid
> becoming stagnant).

I guess google likes to use the anticipation that comes with the beta
logo -- after something leaves beta, they keep working on it (ala
google.com) -- it's impossible to guess what makes them decide to take
it out of beta. They're a funny group. A funny group I don't feel
qualified to question.

[Kass Lloyd (raeky)]

Well I could care less if the logo has "beta" in it or not, the bigger
question is when, if ever, do they release gmail up to the public and
get rid of invites. ;-) I know the invites are a form of virus marking
which has been extremely successful in promoting Gmail and other
websites.. but at some point open registrations will be necessary.

On 5/7/05, Allen Day <so.o...@gmail.com> wrote:
>

[Darryl Rayburn]

No, I'm certainly not qualified to question their decisions and
policies, either. But it seems that there are many, many Gmail users
who are held back from relying on Gmail as their primary address
simply because it *does* still carry the "beta tag". Not that Google
worries about that too much.

On 5/7/05, Allen Day <so.o...@gmail.com> wrote:
>

[Kass Lloyd (raeky)]

why do people fear that beta means it may not be permanent? I have no
doubt in the permanence of gmail.

[Darryl Rayburn]

I think with a lot of people it's not the fear that Gmail is going
away anytime soon, more the fear that one morning they'll wake up and
all their email will be gone :P I've never had a single problem with
Gmail- the performance for me has been super, but some people are just
paranoid I guess, especially if something is labelled "beta".

[Kass Lloyd (raeky)]

Thats an irrational fear, google is the best company in the world for
data archiving and security. They have more storage then anyother
company on earth (I'd assume, not sure who else needs tens of
thousands of terrabytes...)...

[Darryl Rayburn]

I should change what I wrote to read "not a single problem to speak
of"-- I had some problems with POP3 access when it was first
introduced. Since then smooth sailing for the most part. But yeah,
you're right...but then how often have we heard "what do you expect?
it's beta!" ;) To keep to the subject of the thread a little more
though- and sorry if this has been covered before- but what is Google
going to do about ad space with web clips? Are they going to be
incorporated into the clips? I don't see any ads at all in my account
now, only the links at the top of the page.

[Rguy84]

My secondary account has clips...not worth it.

[Darryl Rayburn]

nah it's a handy feature, but a tad redundant for some people I guess.

[Ukpong]

Are the clips even worth it??? The only reason that you are all barking mad is that you don't have it!!

--
Regards
Ukpong

[Darryl Rayburn]

I'm not barking mad...I have them :P

[Caleb]

three people have signed up for accounts, seen the "beta" and stopped using it.  all three said that to them "beta" ment that it might freeze and crash thier computer.  hahaha.  i only managed to convince two to come back to gmail....:(

--
Caleb
"What do you mean, why's it got to be built?  It's a bypass.  You've got to build bypasses."  --Mr. L. Prosser

[Darryl Rayburn]

yeah actually Gmail has been one of the two or three most stable email
providers I've had :) I've heard some people have had problems of
some sort with it, but I never have really, no major ones anyway.

[Caleb]

the ONLY problem i've EVER had are the couple of times its been down and i get a server error.  other than that its just cosmetic things, like weird floating images.  I love what they've managed to do with javascript and iframes.  its better and easier than, say, outlook, and it comes up ten times as fast.

[Darryl Rayburn]

ahhh I have an answer to my own question, in a way...I notice ads
among the web clip links every now and then. I would imagine that
coming up with a way of maintaining ad revenue is one of the issues
the web clips feature for general release... I dunno

[Darryl Rayburn]

oops..I mean "one of the issues holding up the web clips feature for
general release"

[Darryl Rayburn]

I think on one occasion I wasn't able to log onto the site, and that
was for about 3 minutes sometime last October :D And with Gmail I
really prefer the web interface to using it with a client

[Derek]

Lol. How come they don't read the word Microsoft and think of the
computer freezing or crashing?

On Sat, 7 May 2005 7:49 pm, Caleb wrote:
> three people have signed up for accounts, seen the "beta" and stopped
> using it.  all three said that to them "beta" ment that it might freeze
> and crash thier computer.  hahaha.  i only managed to convince two to
> come back to gmail....:(
>
> On 5/7/05, Darryl Rayburn <dray...@gmail.com

> [mailto:dray...@gmail.com]> wrote:
>
>> I think with a lot of people it's not the fear that Gmail is going
>> away anytime soon, more the fear that one morning they'll wake up and
>> all their email will be gone :P I've never had a single problem with
>> Gmail- the performance for me has been super, but some people are just
>> paranoid I guess, especially if something is labelled "beta".
>> On 5/7/05, Kass Lloyd (raeky) <kass...@gmail.com

>> [mailto:kass...@gmail.com]> wrote:
>>>
>>> why do people fear that beta means it may not be permanent? I have no
>>> doubt in the permanence of gmail.
>>>
>>> On 5/7/05, Darryl Rayburn <dray...@gmail.com

>>> [mailto:dray...@gmail.com]> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > No, I'm certainly not qualified to question their decisions and
>>> > policies, either. But it seems that there are many, many Gmail users
>>> > who are held back from relying on Gmail as their primary address
>>> > simply because it *does* still carry the "beta tag". Not that Google
>>> > worries about that too much.
>>> >
>>> > On 5/7/05, Allen Day <so.o...@gmail.com

>>> [mailto:so.o...@gmail.com]> wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > > On 5/7/05, Darryl Rayburn < dray...@gmail.com

>>> [mailto:dray...@gmail.com]> wrote:
>>> > > >
>>> > > > Thanks for that info :) I guess we can expect an indefinite beta
>>> > > > period then, since all services change (or *should* change, to
>>> avoid
>>> > > > becoming stagnant).
>>> > >
>>> > > I guess google likes to use the anticipation that comes with the
>>> beta
>>> > > logo -- after something leaves beta, they keep working on it (ala

>>> > > google.com [http://google.com]) -- it's impossible to guess what

[Caleb]

yep i imagine they're testing both kinds of ads to see which are more effective and effective ratios of ads to clips. etc.

[Caleb]

haha indeed.  the problem with beta is you never really know what to expect unless you know the company.  Google doesnt let anything out of the googleplex in my experience unless its 100% harmless.  but some companies' betas really do freeze a lot, and are dangerous.  i've trained my mom to just ignore the 'beta' on anything google.

On 5/7/05, Derek <derek.p...@gmail.com> wrote:

> "What do you mean, why's it got to be built?It's a bypass.You've

> got to build bypasses."--Mr. L. Prosser

[Derek]

I just associate google beta with finished products lol. I think they're
stable enough to rely on.

On Sat, 7 May 2005 8:11 pm, Caleb wrote:
> haha indeed.  the problem with beta is you never really know what to
> expect unless you know the company.  Google doesnt let anything out of
> the googleplex in my experience unless its 100% harmless.  but some
> companies' betas really do freeze a lot, and are dangerous.  i've
> trained my mom to just ignore the 'beta' on anything google.
>
> On 5/7/05, Derek <derek.p...@gmail.com

> [mailto:derek.p...@gmail.com]> wrote:
>
>> Lol. How come they don't read the word Microsoft and think of the
>> computer freezing or crashing?
>> On Sat, 7 May 2005 7:49 pm, Caleb wrote:
>>> three people have signed up for accounts, seen the "beta" and stopped
>>> using it. all three said that to them "beta" ment that it might freeze
>>> and crash thier computer. hahaha. i only managed to convince two to
>>> come back to gmail....:(
>>>
>>> On 5/7/05, Darryl Rayburn < dray...@gmail.com
>>> [mailto:dray...@gmail.com]

>>> [mailto:dray...@gmail.com [mailto:dray...@gmail.com]]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I think with a lot of people it's not the fear that Gmail is going
>>>> away anytime soon, more the fear that one morning they'll wake up and
>>>> all their email will be gone :P I've never had a single problem with
>>>> Gmail- the performance for me has been super, but some people are just
>>>> paranoid I guess, especially if something is labelled "beta".
>>>> On 5/7/05, Kass Lloyd (raeky) <kass...@gmail.com
>>>> [mailto:kass...@gmail.com]

>>>> [mailto: kass...@gmail.com [mailto:kass...@gmail.com]]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> why do people fear that beta means it may not be permanent? I have no
>>>>> doubt in the permanence of gmail.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 5/7/05, Darryl Rayburn < dray...@gmail.com
>>>>> [mailto:dray...@gmail.com]

>>>>> [mailto:dray...@gmail.com [mailto:dray...@gmail.com]]> wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > No, I'm certainly not qualified to question their decisions and
>>>>> > policies, either. But it seems that there are many, many Gmail users
>>>>> > who are held back from relying on Gmail as their primary address
>>>>> > simply because it *does* still carry the "beta tag". Not that Google
>>>>> > worries about that too much.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On 5/7/05, Allen Day <so.o...@gmail.com
>>>>> [mailto:so.o...@gmail.com]

>>>>> [mailto: so.o...@gmail.com [mailto:so.o...@gmail.com]]> wrote:
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > On 5/7/05, Darryl Rayburn < dray...@gmail.com
>>>>> [mailto:dray...@gmail.com]

>>>>> [mailto: dray...@gmail.com [mailto:dray...@gmail.com]]> wrote:
>>>>> > > >
>>>>> > > > Thanks for that info :) I guess we can expect an indefinite beta
>>>>> > > > period then, since all services change (or *should* change, to
>>>>> avoid
>>>>> > > > becoming stagnant).
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > I guess google likes to use the anticipation that comes with the
>>>>> beta
>>>>> > > logo -- after something leaves beta, they keep working on it (ala

>>>>> > > google.com [http://google.com] [http://google.com

[User]

Hello Derek,

Sunday, May 8, 2005, 5:17:17 AM, you wrote:
D> I just associate google beta with finished products lol.

People have problems receiving zip/rar archives and reading another's mails (if two persons registers the same name but one with . and other without it)

--
Best regards,
User mailto:use...@gmail.com

[Derek]

Interesting. I didn't know google was letting people register usernames
that were so similar. So you're saying that one person can register
johndoe and another john.doe?

[Caleb]

no, people cant register both with . and without it.  its considered the same account for gmail's purposes.  and the only "problem" with zip/rar is that gmail doesn't allow inclusion of exe files as a precaution against viruses.

[Kass Lloyd (raeky)]

early on when gmail first came out though you could register a name
with a period and it would give you access to the person's e-mails
without the period... little tiny bug;-)

[Derek]

OK that's what I thought. I thought Gmail treated usernames with or without periods as the same account.

On 5/8/05, Caleb < cale...@gmail.com> wrote:

[Caleb]

i thought people thought they were getting access to "someone else's" emails but they werent, they were that person's own emails sent to the address w/o the period...

[User]

Hello Derek,

Sunday, May 8, 2005, 7:51:55 PM, you wrote:

D> Interesting. I didn't know google was letting people register usernames
D> that were so similar. So you're saying that one person can register
D> johndoe and another john.doe?

Yes, and johndoe can receive e-mails for john.doe and on the contrary.

[User]

Hello Kass,

Sunday, May 8, 2005, 7:59:07 PM, you wrote:
KLr> early on when gmail first came out though you could register a name
KLr> with a period and it would give you access to the person's e-mails
KLr> without the period... little tiny bug;-)

And now, if I register name.nom and somebody registers namenom, can I read mails sended to namenom, and namenom - mails sended to me?

[Kass Lloyd (raeky)]

I donno... does it let you register with a period at all? Wouldn't be
hard to test... we got plenty of invites to play with

On 5/8/05, User <use...@gmail.com> wrote:
>

[Darryl Rayburn]

I was curious about that a couple of weeks ago...my other account is
under the name "darrylrayburn" and I tried to make an account named
"darryl.rayburn" and I got the notice that "username is already in
use" or something like that. Dunno though if it was referring to my
prior account or to one someone else made up. Crap, hope not the
latter :D

[T. M. Tracy]

you can not register user.name and username...they are considered the
same thing.

[Derek]

So essentially it was as though a user had two accounts under the same
username with and w/o the period.

On Sun, 8 May 2005 11:22 am, Caleb wrote:
> i thought people thought they were getting access to "someone else's"
> emails but they werent, they were that person's own emails sent to the
> address w/o the period...
>
> On 5/8/05, Kass Lloyd (raeky) <kass...@gmail.com

> [mailto:kass...@gmail.com]> wrote:
>
>> early on when gmail first came out though you could register a name
>> with a period and it would give you access to the person's e-mails
>> without the period... little tiny bug;-)

>> On 5/8/05, Caleb < cale...@gmail.com [mailto:cale...@gmail.com]>

>> wrote:
>>> no, people cant register both with . and without it. its considered
>>> the
>>> same account for gmail's purposes. and the only "problem" with
>>> zip/rar is
>>> that gmail doesn't allow inclusion of exe files as a precaution
>>> against
>>> viruses.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 5/8/05, User <use...@gmail.com [mailto:use...@gmail.com]> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Hello Derek,
>>> >
>>> > Sunday, May 8, 2005, 5:17:17 AM, you wrote:
>>> > D> I just associate google beta with finished products lol.
>>> >
>>> > People have problems receiving zip/rar archives and reading
>>> another's
>>> mails (if two persons registers the same name but one with . and other
>>> without it)
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > Best regards,

>>> > User mailto:use...@gmail.com [mailto:use...@gmail.com]

>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Caleb
>>> "What do you mean, why's it got to be built? It's a bypass. You've
>>> got to
>>> build bypasses." --Mr. L. Prosser
>
> --
> Caleb
> "What do you mean, why's it got to be built?  It's a bypass.  You've
> got to build bypasses."  --Mr. L. Prosser

Derek

[Kass Lloyd (raeky)]

so I have kasslloyd@, could I email kass.lloyd@ and have it arrive to
me? Someone will have to send me a mail to kass....@gmail.com and
see. :P

> > "What do you mean, why's it got to be built?It's a bypass.You've

[T. M. Tracy]

it will go to you...it's been a known fact. i use t.m.tracy sometimes
for stuff I will want to auto filter to the trash. =p

[Derek]

Yeh sometimes I add the period at random places instead of using the
+whatever. It's gret for setting up filters.

Derek

[Kass Lloyd (raeky)]

a lot of websites don't like a + in the email.. :(

And yes the period worked "T. M. Tracy", nice fuzzy feeling your
comment gives me.

[T. M. Tracy]

yay! =p

[Derek]

No it's supposed to be "booooo". Pretty soon I'm going to run out of
places to put the period.

Derek

[Kass Lloyd (raeky)]

buy a $8/year domain from www.godaddy.com and then setup a catch-all
forward on it. Then you have *@domain.com to use to sign up sites
with. Thats what I do, since most sites don't like the + in the
e-mail.

[Derek]

Or get another gmail account just for forums/newsletters and have that
forwarded to your primary saving you $8/year.

Derek

[Kass Lloyd (raeky)]

if $8/year is a problem for you, how can you afford the internet in
the first place.. *laugh*

[Derek]

I figure why go through the trouble of purchasing a domain unless your
going to use it for a blog or site. It's a waste. Why not just open
another gmail acct?m

Derek

[Caleb]

but think of all the chocolate chips that $8 can buy!

On 5/8/05, Kass Lloyd (raeky) <kass...@gmail.com> wrote:

if $8/year is a problem for you, how can you afford the internet in
the first place.. *laugh*

On 5/8/05, Derek <derek.p...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Or get another gmail account just for forums/newsletters and have that
> forwarded to your primary saving you $8/year.
> On Sun, 8 May 2005 5:02 pm, Kass Lloyd (raeky) wrote:
> >
> > buy a $8/year domain from www.godaddy.com and then setup a catch-all

> > forward on it. Then you have *@ domain.com to use to sign up sites

[Caleb]

plus the chocolate chip thing

[Kass Lloyd (raeky)]

heh... well for another $50/year you can have a website too. :P

On 5/8/05, Caleb <cale...@gmail.com> wrote:

[Caleb]

or ten pizzas from Little Caesar's

[Derek]

Who can get 10 pizzas for $8?

On Sun, 8 May 2005 8:14 pm, Caleb wrote:
> or ten pizzas from Little Caesar's
>
> On 5/8/05, Kass Lloyd (raeky) <kass...@gmail.com

> [mailto:kass...@gmail.com]> wrote:
>
>> heh... well for another $50/year you can have a website too. :P

>> On 5/8/05, Caleb <cale...@gmail.com [mailto:cale...@gmail.com]>

>> wrote:
>>> plus the chocolate chip thing
>>>
>>>
>>> On 5/8/05, Derek <derek.p...@gmail.com

>>> [mailto:derek.p...@gmail.com]> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > I figure why go through the trouble of purchasing a domain unless
>>> your
>>> > going to use it for a blog or site. It's a waste. Why not just open
>>> > another gmail acct?m
>>> > On Sun, 8 May 2005 7:29 pm, Kass Lloyd (raeky) wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > > if $8/year is a problem for you, how can you afford the internet
>>> in
>>> > > the first place.. *laugh*
>>> > >
>>> > > On 5/8/05, Derek <derek.p...@gmail.com

>>> [mailto:derek.p...@gmail.com] > wrote:
>>> > >>
>>> > >> Or get another gmail account just for forums/newsletters and
>>> have that
>>> > >> forwarded to your primary saving you $8/year.
>>> > >> On Sun, 8 May 2005 5:02 pm, Kass Lloyd (raeky) wrote:
>>> > >> >
>>> > >> > buy a $8/year domain from www.godaddy.com

>>> [http://www.godaddy.com] and then setup a catch-all
>>> > >> > forward on it. Then you have *@domain.com [http://domain.com]

>>> to use to sign up sites
>>> > >> > with. Thats what I do, since most sites don't like the + in the
>>> > >> > e-mail.
>>> > >> >
>>> > >> > On 5/8/05, Derek < derek.p...@gmail.com

>>> [mailto:derek.p...@gmail.com]> wrote:
>>> > >> >>
>>> > >> >> No it's supposed to be "booooo". Pretty soon I'm going to
>>> run out
>>> > >> of
>>> > >> >> places to put the period.
>>> > >> >> On Sun, 8 May 2005 12:12 pm, T. M. Tracy wrote:
>>> > >> >> >
>>> > >> >> > yay! =p
>>> > >> >> >
>>> > >> >> > On 5/8/05, Kass Lloyd (raeky) < kass...@gmail.com

>>> [mailto:kass...@gmail.com]> wrote:
>>> > >> >> >>
>>> > >> >> >> a lot of websites don't like a + in the email.. :(
>>> > >> >> >>
>>> > >> >> >> And yes the period worked "T. M. Tracy", nice fuzzy feeling
>>> > >> your
>>> > >> >> >> comment gives me.
>>> > >> >> >>
>>> > >> >> >> On 5/8/05, Derek < derek.p...@gmail.com

>>> [mailto:derek.p...@gmail.com]> wrote:
>>> > >> >> >> >
>>> > >> >> >> > Yeh sometimes I add the period at random places instead
>>> of
>>> > >> >> using the
>>> > >> >> >> > +whatever. It's gret for setting up filters.
>>> > >> >> >> > On Sun, 8 May 2005 11:48 am, T. M. Tracy wrote:
>>> > >> >> >> > >
>>> > >> >> >> > > it will go to you...it's been a known fact. i use
>>> > >> t.m.tracy
>>> > >> >> >> sometimes
>>> > >> >> >> > > for stuff I will want to auto filter to the trash. =p
>>> > >> >> >> > >
>>> > >> >> >> > > On 5/8/05, Kass Lloyd (raeky) < kass...@gmail.com

>>> [mailto:kass...@gmail.com]> wrote:
>>> > >> >> >> > >>
>>> > >> >> >> > >> so I have kasslloyd@, could I email kass.lloyd@ and
>>> > >> have it
>>> > >> >> >> arrive to
>>> > >> >> >> > >> me? Someone will have to send me a mail to

>>> > >> >> kass....@gmail.com [mailto:kass....@gmail.com]

>>> > >> >> >> and
>>> > >> >> >> > >> see. :P
>>> > >> >> >> > >>
>>> > >> >> >> > >> On 5/8/05, Derek <derek.p...@gmail.com

>>> [mailto:derek.p...@gmail.com] > wrote:
>>> > >> >> >> > >> >
>>> > >> >> >> > >> > So essentially it was as though a user had two
>>> > >> accounts
>>> > >> >> under
>>> > >> >> >> the
>>> > >> >> >> > >> same
>>> > >> >> >> > >> > username with and w/o the period.
>>> > >> >> >> > >> > On Sun, 8 May 2005 11:22 am, Caleb wrote:
>>> > >> >> >> > >> > > i thought people thought they were getting
>>> access to
>>> > >> >> >> "someone
>>> > >> >> >> > >> else's"
>>> > >> >> >> > >> > > emails but they werent, they were that person's
>>> own
>>> > >> >> emails
>>> > >> >> >> sent
>>> > >> >> >> > >> to the
>>> > >> >> >> > >> > > address w/o the period...
>>> > >> >> >> > >> > >
>>> > >> >> >> > >> > > On 5/8/05, Kass Lloyd (raeky)
>>> <kass...@gmail.com [mailto:kass...@gmail.com]

>>> > >> >> >> > >> > > [mailto: kass...@gmail.com

>>> [mailto:kass...@gmail.com]]> wrote:
>>> > >> >> >> > >> > >
>>> > >> >> >> > >> > >> early on when gmail first came out though you
>>> could
>>> > >> >> >> register a
>>> > >> >> >> > >> name
>>> > >> >> >> > >> > >> with a period and it would give you access to the
>>> > >> >> person's
>>> > >> >> >> > >> e-mails
>>> > >> >> >> > >> > >> without the period... little tiny bug;-)
>>> > >> >> >> > >> > >> On 5/8/05, Caleb < cale...@gmail.com
>>> [mailto:cale...@gmail.com]

>>> > >> >> >> > >> [mailto:cale...@gmail.com

>>> [mailto:cale...@gmail.com]]>
>>> > >> >> >> > >> > >> wrote:
>>> > >> >> >> > >> > >>> no, people cant register both with . and without
>>> > >> it.
>>> > >> >> its
>>> > >> >> >> > >> considered
>>> > >> >> >> > >> > >>> the
>>> > >> >> >> > >> > >>> same account for gmail's purposes. and the only
>>> > >> >> >> "problem" with
>>> > >> >> >> > >> > >>> zip/rar is
>>> > >> >> >> > >> > >>> that gmail doesn't allow inclusion of exe files
>>> > >> as a
>>> > >> >> >> precaution
>>> > >> >> >> > >> > >>> against
>>> > >> >> >> > >> > >>> viruses.
>>> > >> >> >> > >> > >>>
>>> > >> >> >> > >> > >>>
>>> > >> >> >> > >> > >>> On 5/8/05, User <use...@gmail.com
>>> [mailto:use...@gmail.com]

>>> > >> >> >> [mailto: use...@gmail.com [mailto:use...@gmail.com]]>

>>> > >> >> >> > >> wrote:
>>> > >> >> >> > >> > >>> >
>>> > >> >> >> > >> > >>> > Hello Derek,
>>> > >> >> >> > >> > >>> >
>>> > >> >> >> > >> > >>> > Sunday, May 8, 2005, 5:17:17 AM, you wrote:
>>> > >> >> >> > >> > >>> > D> I just associate google beta with finished
>>> > >> >> products
>>> > >> >> >> lol.
>>> > >> >> >> > >> > >>> >
>>> > >> >> >> > >> > >>> > People have problems receiving zip/rar
>>> > >> archives and
>>> > >> >> >> reading
>>> > >> >> >> > >> > >>> another's
>>> > >> >> >> > >> > >>> mails (if two persons registers the same name
>>> > >> but one
>>> > >> >> >> with .
>>> > >> >> >> > >> and other
>>> > >> >> >> > >> > >>> without it)
>>> > >> >> >> > >> > >>> >
>>> > >> >> >> > >> > >>> > --
>>> > >> >> >> > >> > >>> > Best regards,
>>> > >> >> >> > >> > >>> > User mailto: use...@gmail.com
>>> [mailto:use...@gmail.com]

>>> > >> >> [mailto:use...@gmail.com [mailto:use...@gmail.com]]

Derek

[Derek]

Disregard this message... Wrong email was quoted.

Derek

[Caleb]

no, 10 pizzas for fifty dollars.  and does anyone know why gmail is no longer hiding quoted text properly? or has anyone else noticed it?

On 5/8/05, Derek <derek.p...@gmail.com > wrote:

--
Caleb
"Forty Two" --Deep Thought

[Derek]

Are my messages being quoted properly? I'm not editing any part of the
original messages. I just add my reply to the top. I haven't logged into
the web interface in awhile. I've been doing all my emailing from my
Sidekick.

On Sun, 8 May 2005 8:46 pm, Caleb wrote:
> no, 10 pizzas for fifty dollars.  and does anyone know why gmail is no
> longer hiding quoted text properly? or has anyone else noticed it?
>
> On 5/8/05, Derek <derek.p...@gmail.com

> [mailto:derek.p...@gmail.com]> wrote:
>
>> Who can get 10 pizzas for $8?
>> On Sun, 8 May 2005 8:14 pm, Caleb wrote:
>>> or ten pizzas from Little Caesar's
>>>
>>> On 5/8/05, Kass Lloyd (raeky) <kass...@gmail.com
>>> [mailto:kass...@gmail.com]

>>> [mailto:kass...@gmail.com [mailto:kass...@gmail.com]]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> heh... well for another $50/year you can have a website too. :P
>>>> On 5/8/05, Caleb <cale...@gmail.com [mailto:cale...@gmail.com]

>>>> [mailto: cale...@gmail.com [mailto:cale...@gmail.com]]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> plus the chocolate chip thing
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 5/8/05, Derek <derek.p...@gmail.com
>>>>> [mailto:derek.p...@gmail.com]

>>>>> [mailto:derek.p...@gmail.com

>>>>> [mailto:derek.p...@gmail.com]]> wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > I figure why go through the trouble of purchasing a domain unless
>>>>> your
>>>>> > going to use it for a blog or site. It's a waste. Why not just open
>>>>> > another gmail acct?m
>>>>> > On Sun, 8 May 2005 7:29 pm, Kass Lloyd (raeky) wrote:
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > if $8/year is a problem for you, how can you afford the internet
>>>>> in
>>>>> > > the first place.. *laugh*
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > On 5/8/05, Derek < derek.p...@gmail.com
>>>>> [mailto:derek.p...@gmail.com]

>>>>> [mailto:derek.p...@gmail.com

>>>>> [mailto:derek.p...@gmail.com]] > wrote:
>>>>> > >>
>>>>> > >> Or get another gmail account just for forums/newsletters and
>>>>> have that
>>>>> > >> forwarded to your primary saving you $8/year.
>>>>> > >> On Sun, 8 May 2005 5:02 pm, Kass Lloyd (raeky) wrote:
>>>>> > >> >
>>>>> > >> > buy a $8/year domain from www.godaddy.com
>>>>> [http://www.godaddy.com]

>>>>> [http://www.godaddy.com [http://www.godaddy.com]] and then setup a

>>>>> catch-all
>>>>> > >> > forward on it. Then you have *@domain.com

>>>>> [http://domain.com] [http://domain.com [http://domain.com]]

>>>>> to use to sign up sites
>>>>> > >> > with. Thats what I do, since most sites don't like the + in the
>>>>> > >> > e-mail.
>>>>> > >> >
>>>>> > >> > On 5/8/05, Derek < derek.p...@gmail.com
>>>>> [mailto:derek.p...@gmail.com]

>>>>> [mailto: derek.p...@gmail.com

>>>>> [mailto:derek.p...@gmail.com]]> wrote:
>>>>> > >> >>
>>>>> > >> >> No it's supposed to be "booooo". Pretty soon I'm going to
>>>>> run out
>>>>> > >> of
>>>>> > >> >> places to put the period.
>>>>> > >> >> On Sun, 8 May 2005 12:12 pm, T. M. Tracy wrote:
>>>>> > >> >> >
>>>>> > >> >> > yay! =p
>>>>> > >> >> >
>>>>> > >> >> > On 5/8/05, Kass Lloyd (raeky) < kass...@gmail.com
>>>>> [mailto:kass...@gmail.com]

>>>>> [mailto:kass...@gmail.com [mailto:kass...@gmail.com]]> wrote:
>>>>> > >> >> >>
>>>>> > >> >> >> a lot of websites don't like a + in the email.. :(
>>>>> > >> >> >>
>>>>> > >> >> >> And yes the period worked "T. M. Tracy", nice fuzzy feeling
>>>>> > >> your
>>>>> > >> >> >> comment gives me.
>>>>> > >> >> >>
>>>>> > >> >> >> On 5/8/05, Derek < derek.p...@gmail.com
>>>>> [mailto:derek.p...@gmail.com]

>>>>> [mailto: derek.p...@gmail.com

>>>>> [mailto:derek.p...@gmail.com]]> wrote:
>>>>> > >> >> >> >
>>>>> > >> >> >> > Yeh sometimes I add the period at random places instead
>>>>> of
>>>>> > >> >> using the
>>>>> > >> >> >> > +whatever. It's gret for setting up filters.
>>>>> > >> >> >> > On Sun, 8 May 2005 11:48 am, T. M. Tracy wrote:
>>>>> > >> >> >> > >
>>>>> > >> >> >> > > it will go to you...it's been a known fact. i use
>>>>> > >> t.m.tracy
>>>>> > >> >> >> sometimes
>>>>> > >> >> >> > > for stuff I will want to auto filter to the trash. =p
>>>>> > >> >> >> > >
>>>>> > >> >> >> > > On 5/8/05, Kass Lloyd (raeky) < kass...@gmail.com
>>>>> [mailto:kass...@gmail.com]

>>>>> [mailto:kass...@gmail.com [mailto:kass...@gmail.com]]> wrote:
>>>>> > >> >> >> > >>
>>>>> > >> >> >> > >> so I have kasslloyd@, could I email kass.lloyd@ and
>>>>> > >> have it
>>>>> > >> >> >> arrive to
>>>>> > >> >> >> > >> me? Someone will have to send me a mail to
>>>>> > >> >> kass....@gmail.com [mailto:kass....@gmail.com]

>>>>> [mailto:kass....@gmail.com [mailto:kass....@gmail.com]]

>>>>> > >> >> >> and
>>>>> > >> >> >> > >> see. :P
>>>>> > >> >> >> > >>
>>>>> > >> >> >> > >> On 5/8/05, Derek < derek.p...@gmail.com
>>>>> [mailto:derek.p...@gmail.com]

>>>>> [mailto:derek.p...@gmail.com

>>>>> [mailto:derek.p...@gmail.com]] > wrote:
>>>>> > >> >> >> > >> >
>>>>> > >> >> >> > >> > So essentially it was as though a user had two
>>>>> > >> accounts
>>>>> > >> >> under
>>>>> > >> >> >> the
>>>>> > >> >> >> > >> same
>>>>> > >> >> >> > >> > username with and w/o the period.
>>>>> > >> >> >> > >> > On Sun, 8 May 2005 11:22 am, Caleb wrote:
>>>>> > >> >> >> > >> > > i thought people thought they were getting
>>>>> access to
>>>>> > >> >> >> "someone
>>>>> > >> >> >> > >> else's"
>>>>> > >> >> >> > >> > > emails but they werent, they were that person's
>>>>> own
>>>>> > >> >> emails
>>>>> > >> >> >> sent
>>>>> > >> >> >> > >> to the
>>>>> > >> >> >> > >> > > address w/o the period...
>>>>> > >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> > >> >> >> > >> > > On 5/8/05, Kass Lloyd (raeky)
>>>>> < kass...@gmail.com [mailto:kass...@gmail.com]
>>>>> [mailto:kass...@gmail.com [mailto:kass...@gmail.com]]
>>>>> > >> >> >> > >> > > [mailto: kass...@gmail.com
>>>>> [mailto:kass...@gmail.com]

>>>>> [mailto:kass...@gmail.com [mailto:kass...@gmail.com]]]> wrote:
>>>>> > >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> > >> >> >> > >> > >> early on when gmail first came out though you
>>>>> could
>>>>> > >> >> >> register a
>>>>> > >> >> >> > >> name
>>>>> > >> >> >> > >> > >> with a period and it would give you access to the
>>>>> > >> >> person's
>>>>> > >> >> >> > >> e-mails
>>>>> > >> >> >> > >> > >> without the period... little tiny bug;-)
>>>>> > >> >> >> > >> > >> On 5/8/05, Caleb < cale...@gmail.com
>>>>> [mailto:cale...@gmail.com]
>>>>> [mailto:cale...@gmail.com [mailto:cale...@gmail.com]]
>>>>> > >> >> >> > >> [mailto:cale...@gmail.com [mailto:cale...@gmail.com]

>>>>> [mailto:cale...@gmail.com [mailto:cale...@gmail.com]]]>

>>>>> > >> >> >> > >> > >> wrote:
>>>>> > >> >> >> > >> > >>> no, people cant register both with . and without
>>>>> > >> it.
>>>>> > >> >> its
>>>>> > >> >> >> > >> considered
>>>>> > >> >> >> > >> > >>> the
>>>>> > >> >> >> > >> > >>> same account for gmail's purposes. and the only
>>>>> > >> >> >> "problem" with
>>>>> > >> >> >> > >> > >>> zip/rar is
>>>>> > >> >> >> > >> > >>> that gmail doesn't allow inclusion of exe files
>>>>> > >> as a
>>>>> > >> >> >> precaution
>>>>> > >> >> >> > >> > >>> against
>>>>> > >> >> >> > >> > >>> viruses.
>>>>> > >> >> >> > >> > >>>
>>>>> > >> >> >> > >> > >>>
>>>>> > >> >> >> > >> > >>> On 5/8/05, User < use...@gmail.com
>>>>> [mailto:use...@gmail.com]
>>>>> [mailto:use...@gmail.com [mailto:use...@gmail.com]]

>>>>> > >> >> >> [mailto: use...@gmail.com [mailto:use...@gmail.com]
>>>>> [mailto:use...@gmail.com [mailto:use...@gmail.com]]]>

>>>>> > >> >> >> > >> wrote:
>>>>> > >> >> >> > >> > >>> >
>>>>> > >> >> >> > >> > >>> > Hello Derek,
>>>>> > >> >> >> > >> > >>> >
>>>>> > >> >> >> > >> > >>> > Sunday, May 8, 2005, 5:17:17 AM, you wrote:
>>>>> > >> >> >> > >> > >>> > D> I just associate google beta with finished
>>>>> > >> >> products
>>>>> > >> >> >> lol.
>>>>> > >> >> >> > >> > >>> >
>>>>> > >> >> >> > >> > >>> > People have problems receiving zip/rar
>>>>> > >> archives and
>>>>> > >> >> >> reading
>>>>> > >> >> >> > >> > >>> another's
>>>>> > >> >> >> > >> > >>> mails (if two persons registers the same name
>>>>> > >> but one
>>>>> > >> >> >> with .
>>>>> > >> >> >> > >> and other
>>>>> > >> >> >> > >> > >>> without it)
>>>>> > >> >> >> > >> > >>> >
>>>>> > >> >> >> > >> > >>> > --
>>>>> > >> >> >> > >> > >>> > Best regards,
>>>>> > >> >> >> > >> > >>> > User mailto: use...@gmail.com
>>>>> [mailto:use...@gmail.com]
>>>>> [mailto:use...@gmail.com [mailto:use...@gmail.com]]

>>>>> > >> >> [mailto:use...@gmail.com [mailto:use...@gmail.com]

Derek

[Caleb]

it IS you. :P haha.  sidekick is adding brackets after links, which means google doesnt recognize the quoted text as the same (ex: >>>>> > >> >> >> > >> > >>> > Best regards,

>>>>> > >> >> >> > >> > >>> > User mailto: use...@gmail.com
>>>>> [mailto: use...@gmail.com]
>>>>> [mailto:use...@gmail.com [mailto: use...@gmail.com]]

>>>>> > >> >> [mailto:use...@gmail.com [mailto: use...@gmail.com])
that one obviosuly has been through sidekick multuple times, cause the bracketed part has a bracketed part in it.  very insane.  and its definately you, i looked at a couple others and your messages are the funky ones.

On 5/8/05, Derek <derek.p...@gmail.com> wrote:

[Ashok Chandran]

lemme see if i can break this convo..its 63 long

On 5/9/05, Caleb <cale...@gmail.com> wrote:

it IS you. :P haha.  sidekick is adding brackets after links, which means google doesnt recognize the quoted text as the same (ex:

>>>>> > >> >> >> > >> > >>> > Best regards,
>>>>> > >> >> >> > >> > >>> > User mailto: use...@gmail.com
>>>>> [mailto: use...@gmail.com ]
>>>>> [mailto: use...@gmail.com [mailto: use...@gmail.com ]]
>>>>> > >> >> [mailto:use...@gmail.com [mailto: use...@gmail.com ])

that one obviosuly has been through sidekick multuple times, cause the bracketed part has a bracketed part in it.  very insane.  and its definately you, i looked at a couple others and your messages are the funky ones.

On 5/8/05, Derek < derek.p...@gmail.com > wrote:

Are my messages being quoted properly? I'm not editing any part of the
original messages. I just add my reply to the top. I haven't logged into
the web interface in awhile. I've been doing all my emailing from my
Sidekick.
On Sun, 8 May 2005 8:46 pm, Caleb wrote:
> no, 10 pizzas for fifty dollars. and does anyone know why gmail is no
> longer hiding quoted text properly? or has anyone else noticed it?
>

> On 5/8/05, Derek <derek.p...@gmail.com

> [mailto:derek.p...@gmail.com ]> wrote:
>
>> Who can get 10 pizzas for $8?
>> On Sun, 8 May 2005 8:14 pm, Caleb wrote:
>>> or ten pizzas from Little Caesar's
>>>

>>> On 5/8/05, Kass Lloyd (raeky) < kass...@gmail.com
>>> [mailto:kass...@gmail.com ]

>>> [mailto:kass...@gmail.com [mailto: kass...@gmail.com ]]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> heh... well for another $50/year you can have a website too. :P

>>>> On 5/8/05, Caleb < cale...@gmail.com [mailto:cale...@gmail.com ]
>>>> [mailto: cale...@gmail.com [mailto:cale...@gmail.com ]]>

>>>> wrote:
>>>>> plus the chocolate chip thing
>>>>>
>>>>>

>>>>> On 5/8/05, Derek < derek.p...@gmail.com
>>>>> [mailto: derek.p...@gmail.com ]
>>>>> [mailto: derek.p...@gmail.com

>>>>> [mailto:derek.p...@gmail.com ]]> wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > I figure why go through the trouble of purchasing a domain unless
>>>>> your
>>>>> > going to use it for a blog or site. It's a waste. Why not just open
>>>>> > another gmail acct?m
>>>>> > On Sun, 8 May 2005 7:29 pm, Kass Lloyd (raeky) wrote:
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > if $8/year is a problem for you, how can you afford the internet
>>>>> in
>>>>> > > the first place.. *laugh*
>>>>> > >

>>>>> > > On 5/8/05, Derek < derek.p...@gmail.com
>>>>> [mailto: derek.p...@gmail.com ]
>>>>> [mailto: derek.p...@gmail.com

>>>>> [mailto: derek.p...@gmail.com ]] > wrote:
>>>>> > >>
>>>>> > >> Or get another gmail account just for forums/newsletters and
>>>>> have that
>>>>> > >> forwarded to your primary saving you $8/year.
>>>>> > >> On Sun, 8 May 2005 5:02 pm, Kass Lloyd (raeky) wrote:
>>>>> > >> >

>>>>> > >> > buy a $8/year domain from www.godaddy.com
>>>>> [http://www.godaddy.com ]
>>>>> [http://www.godaddy.com [ http://www.godaddy.com] ] and then setup a
>>>>> catch-all
>>>>> > >> > forward on it. Then you have *@ domain.com
>>>>> [ http://domain.com ] [ http://domain.com [http://domain.com] ]

>>>>> to use to sign up sites
>>>>> > >> > with. Thats what I do, since most sites don't like the + in the
>>>>> > >> > e-mail.
>>>>> > >> >

>>>>> > >> > On 5/8/05, Derek < derek.p...@gmail.com
>>>>> [mailto:derek.p...@gmail.com ]
>>>>> [mailto: derek.p...@gmail.com

>>>>> [mailto: derek.p...@gmail.com ]]> wrote:
>>>>> > >> >>
>>>>> > >> >> No it's supposed to be "booooo". Pretty soon I'm going to
>>>>> run out
>>>>> > >> of
>>>>> > >> >> places to put the period.
>>>>> > >> >> On Sun, 8 May 2005 12:12 pm, T. M. Tracy wrote:
>>>>> > >> >> >
>>>>> > >> >> > yay! =p
>>>>> > >> >> >

>>>>> > >> >> > On 5/8/05, Kass Lloyd (raeky) < kass...@gmail.com
>>>>> [mailto: kass...@gmail.com ]

>>>>> [mailto: kass...@gmail.com [mailto:kass...@gmail.com ]]> wrote:
>>>>> > >> >> >>
>>>>> > >> >> >> a lot of websites don't like a + in the email.. :(
>>>>> > >> >> >>
>>>>> > >> >> >> And yes the period worked "T. M. Tracy", nice fuzzy feeling
>>>>> > >> your
>>>>> > >> >> >> comment gives me.
>>>>> > >> >> >>

>>>>> > >> >> >> On 5/8/05, Derek < derek.p...@gmail.com
>>>>> [mailto: derek.p...@gmail.com ]
>>>>> [mailto: derek.p...@gmail.com

>>>>> [mailto:derek.p...@gmail.com ]]> wrote:
>>>>> > >> >> >> >
>>>>> > >> >> >> > Yeh sometimes I add the period at random places instead
>>>>> of
>>>>> > >> >> using the
>>>>> > >> >> >> > +whatever. It's gret for setting up filters.
>>>>> > >> >> >> > On Sun, 8 May 2005 11:48 am, T. M. Tracy wrote:
>>>>> > >> >> >> > >
>>>>> > >> >> >> > > it will go to you...it's been a known fact. i use
>>>>> > >> t.m.tracy
>>>>> > >> >> >> sometimes
>>>>> > >> >> >> > > for stuff I will want to auto filter to the trash. =p
>>>>> > >> >> >> > >

>>>>> > >> >> >> > > On 5/8/05, Kass Lloyd (raeky) < kass...@gmail.com
>>>>> [mailto: kass...@gmail.com ]

>>>>> [mailto: kass...@gmail.com [mailto:kass...@gmail.com ]]> wrote:
>>>>> > >> >> >> > >>
>>>>> > >> >> >> > >> so I have kasslloyd@, could I email kass.lloyd@ and
>>>>> > >> have it
>>>>> > >> >> >> arrive to
>>>>> > >> >> >> > >> me? Someone will have to send me a mail to

>>>>> > >> >> kass....@gmail.com [mailto:kass....@gmail.com ]
>>>>> [mailto: kass....@gmail.com [mailto: kass....@gmail.com ]]
>>>>> > >> >> >> and
>>>>> > >> >> >> > >> see. :P
>>>>> > >> >> >> > >>
>>>>> > >> >> >> > >> On 5/8/05, Derek < derek.p...@gmail.com
>>>>> [mailto: derek.p...@gmail.com ]
>>>>> [mailto: derek.p...@gmail.com

>>>>> [mailto: derek.p...@gmail.com ]] > wrote:
>>>>> > >> >> >> > >> >
>>>>> > >> >> >> > >> > So essentially it was as though a user had two
>>>>> > >> accounts
>>>>> > >> >> under
>>>>> > >> >> >> the
>>>>> > >> >> >> > >> same
>>>>> > >> >> >> > >> > username with and w/o the period.
>>>>> > >> >> >> > >> > On Sun, 8 May 2005 11:22 am, Caleb wrote:
>>>>> > >> >> >> > >> > > i thought people thought they were getting
>>>>> access to
>>>>> > >> >> >> "someone
>>>>> > >> >> >> > >> else's"
>>>>> > >> >> >> > >> > > emails but they werent, they were that person's
>>>>> own
>>>>> > >> >> emails
>>>>> > >> >> >> sent
>>>>> > >> >> >> > >> to the
>>>>> > >> >> >> > >> > > address w/o the period...
>>>>> > >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> > >> >> >> > >> > > On 5/8/05, Kass Lloyd (raeky)

>>>>> < kass...@gmail.com [mailto:kass...@gmail.com ]
>>>>> [mailto: kass...@gmail.com [mailto:kass...@gmail.com ]]
>>>>> > >> >> >> > >> > > [mailto: kass...@gmail.com
>>>>> [mailto: kass...@gmail.com ]

>>>>> [mailto: kass...@gmail.com [mailto: kass...@gmail.com ]]]> wrote:
>>>>> > >> >> >> > >> > >
>>>>> > >> >> >> > >> > >> early on when gmail first came out though you
>>>>> could
>>>>> > >> >> >> register a
>>>>> > >> >> >> > >> name
>>>>> > >> >> >> > >> > >> with a period and it would give you access to the
>>>>> > >> >> person's
>>>>> > >> >> >> > >> e-mails
>>>>> > >> >> >> > >> > >> without the period... little tiny bug;-)

>>>>> > >> >> >> > >> > >> On 5/8/05, Caleb < cale...@gmail.com
>>>>> [mailto: cale...@gmail.com ]
>>>>> [mailto: cale...@gmail.com [mailto:cale...@gmail.com ]]
>>>>> > >> >> >> > >> [mailto: cale...@gmail.com [mailto: cale...@gmail.com ]
>>>>> [mailto: cale...@gmail.com [mailto: cale...@gmail.com ]]]>

>>>>> > >> >> >> > >> > >> wrote:
>>>>> > >> >> >> > >> > >>> no, people cant register both with . and without
>>>>> > >> it.
>>>>> > >> >> its
>>>>> > >> >> >> > >> considered
>>>>> > >> >> >> > >> > >>> the
>>>>> > >> >> >> > >> > >>> same account for gmail's purposes. and the only
>>>>> > >> >> >> "problem" with
>>>>> > >> >> >> > >> > >>> zip/rar is
>>>>> > >> >> >> > >> > >>> that gmail doesn't allow inclusion of exe files
>>>>> > >> as a
>>>>> > >> >> >> precaution
>>>>> > >> >> >> > >> > >>> against
>>>>> > >> >> >> > >> > >>> viruses.
>>>>> > >> >> >> > >> > >>>
>>>>> > >> >> >> > >> > >>>

>>>>> > >> >> >> > >> > >>> On 5/8/05, User < use...@gmail.com
>>>>> [mailto: use...@gmail.com ]
>>>>> [mailto: use...@gmail.com [mailto:use...@gmail.com ]]
>>>>> > >> >> >> [mailto: use...@gmail.com [mailto: use...@gmail.com ]
>>>>> [mailto: use...@gmail.com [mailto: use...@gmail.com ]]]>

>>>>> > >> >> >> > >> wrote:
>>>>> > >> >> >> > >> > >>> >
>>>>> > >> >> >> > >> > >>> > Hello Derek,
>>>>> > >> >> >> > >> > >>> >
>>>>> > >> >> >> > >> > >>> > Sunday, May 8, 2005, 5:17:17 AM, you wrote:
>>>>> > >> >> >> > >> > >>> > D> I just associate google beta with finished
>>>>> > >> >> products
>>>>> > >> >> >> lol.
>>>>> > >> >> >> > >> > >>> >
>>>>> > >> >> >> > >> > >>> > People have problems receiving zip/rar
>>>>> > >> archives and
>>>>> > >> >> >> reading
>>>>> > >> >> >> > >> > >>> another's
>>>>> > >> >> >> > >> > >>> mails (if two persons registers the same name
>>>>> > >> but one
>>>>> > >> >> >> with .
>>>>> > >> >> >> > >> and other
>>>>> > >> >> >> > >> > >>> without it)
>>>>> > >> >> >> > >> > >>> >
>>>>> > >> >> >> > >> > >>> > --
>>>>> > >> >> >> > >> > >>> > Best regards,

>>>>> > >> >> >> > >> > >>> > User mailto: use...@gmail.com
>>>>> [mailto: use...@gmail.com ]
>>>>> [mailto: use...@gmail.com [mailto: use...@gmail.com ]]
>>>>> > >> >> [mailto: use...@gmail.com [mailto:use...@gmail.com ]
>>>>> [mailto: use...@gmail.com [mailto: use...@gmail.com ]]]

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[Derek]

well dammit. I guess my sidekick is screwing the threading up. Do you
guys mind? Or should I stop quoting messages with links?
Derek

[Derek]

Wait a minute, I just checked some of my past replies and brackets
weren't added.

Derek

[Caleb]

not to all of them but they were to a lot.

On 5/8/05, Derek <derek.p...@gmail.com> wrote:

[Derek]

Well I'm going to ask Danger if there is a way to get the brackets
removed automatically. I find it weird that I've never had this problem.
A lot of sidekick users are using gmail instead of their tmail
accounts.

On Mon, 9 May 2005 4:39 am, Caleb wrote:
> not to all of them but they were to a lot.
>
> On 5/8/05, Derek <derek.p...@gmail.com

> mailto:derek.p...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Wait a minute, I just checked some of my past replies and brackets
>> weren't added.
>> On Sun, 8 May 2005 9:35 pm, Derek wrote:
>>>
>>> well dammit. I guess my sidekick is screwing the threading up. Do you
>>> guys mind? Or should I stop quoting messages with links?
>>> Derek
>> Derek
>
> --
> Caleb
> "Forty Two" --Deep Thought

Derek

[Kass Lloyd (raeky)]

Derek, whatever your doing often when you quote someone the entire
quote isn't hidden with "- Show quoted text -"... I think its only
when you don't put a blank line between your text and the "On date
blah blah wrote:"... or if your using another e-mail client (pop3) its
screwing up the quote and making it not get hidden.. very quite
annoying when you have 5000 lines of quote.

[Derek]

Well I'm trying to figure this all out. I'm making sure to delete
anything that is not relevant to my message. I think it's working. I
make sure to ad a break and delete any brackets that get wrapped. I am
limited to using gmail on my sidekick since I don't have a computer at
this time. Message threading should work now from my sidekick.

On Mon, 9 May 2005 8:25 am, Kass Lloyd (raeky) wrote:
>
> Derek, whatever your doing often when you quote someone the entire
> quote isn't hidden with "- Show quoted text -"... I think its only
> when you don't put a blank line between your text and the "On date
> blah blah wrote:"... or if your using another e-mail client (pop3) its
> screwing up the quote and making it not get hidden.. very quite
> annoying when you have 5000 lines of quote.

Derek

[User]

Hello Kass,

Monday, May 9, 2005, 5:07:12 AM, you wrote:
KLr> heh... well for another $50/year you can have a website too. :P

There is no any free web-hosting?

[Kass Lloyd (raeky)]

free hosting does exist, if you can stand long urls, popup/banner ads,
and generally poor performance and very low bandwidth quotas.

But to me $50/year is practically free too... At least when you
compare the services...