The actions of OpenNIC relating to the .Eco TLD's
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IPB Corporation
Aug 31, 2009, 1:28:54 PM8/31/09
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I believe the actions of the OpenNIC concerning the .ECO where driven
by a select few with in the organization for political reasons.
by a select few with in the organization for political reasons.
texnofobix
Oct 8, 2009, 12:51:03 AM10/8/09
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Looking back through the OpenNIC mailing list. It appears that .eco
was dropped due to inactivity/setup.
It was voted in 2008-Dec-08.
By May it was found it was not setup.
It was voted out 2009-Aug-30.
I hate politics, so really what is this about?
On Aug 31, 1:28 pm, IPB Corporation <bretl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I believe the actions of theOpenNICconcerning the .ECO where driven
was dropped due to inactivity/setup.
It was voted in 2008-Dec-08.
By May it was found it was not setup.
It was voted out 2009-Aug-30.
I hate politics, so really what is this about?
On Aug 31, 1:28 pm, IPB Corporation <bretl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I believe the actions of theOpenNICconcerning the .ECO where driven
IPB Corporation
Oct 8, 2009, 10:19:08 PM10/8/09
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First, at the time it was voted in on Dec. 08 2008 there was no policy
within OpenNIC concerning inactivity.
To this date there never has been official notification by the
organization to the TLD operators concerning new guidelines relating
to such a policy. Second, when OpenNIC adopted .ECO it did so with
acceptance of it's charter:
CHARTER
A. General Description of the Charter
1. TLD String Requested
.Eco
2. Category
Special Purpose Membership
.ECO will as defined by the International Co-operative
Alliance's
Statement on the Co-operative Identity setup a membership
Autonomous association of persons & organizations united to
Meet their common economic, social, cultural, needs
And aspirations through a jointly-owned and democratically
Controlled top-level Internet domain .ECO
The IPB corporation has initiated through the Open Nic Project
the formal request
To develop and sponsor the .Eco TLD as a means of bridging the
common points
Of interest between economies and ecology. It is planned that
this effort will help
Build a common global forum between the two bodies and promote
the best types
Of practices that can have a beneficial and lasting effect on
humanity and the
Planet. IPB targets a qualified membership registrant base,
with a particular focus
On the end user base having a goal of conducting it's affairs in
an honorable and a
Sustainably progressive manner so as to promote a high level of
best practices for
The .Eco community.
3. Registry Operator
IPB corporation was created during 2005 and incorporated by 2006
as the eventual
Recipient of staff, resources and clients from it's predecessor
companies. IPB's
Being given all this enabled it to launch Internet related
services that were the
Outgrowth of prior software and hardware developments. As a
Florida based
Corporation, IPB benefits by the the rapid growth and development
which is the
Hallmark of Florida's rise in status as a economic and geographic
powerhouse.
The unique experience of software development, hosting and audio/
video
Streaming services
This makes IPB ideally suited to the demands that will be placed
on the companies
Staff to do what is necessary to make the project a success.
Due to the scale at which IPB's services are currently being used
globally and
The large scale distribution of services through it's existing
Internet platform, it
Has been proven conclusively that the assignment and distribution
of .Eco
Designations and it's accompanying website content can be
distributed with ease.
4. Registry-Registrar Model
For the first 4 year term from initial launch to 4 calendar
years maturity, IPB in it's
Current and eventual form will be the sole managing agent and
registrar for the
Cooperative. This is vital to the overall intent of providing
the domain holders
With a consistent and progressive growth in a cooperative type of
environment
That fosters trust and a fertile atmosphere of sharing the best
ideas and practices
To be used by those who are part of the cooperative
environment.
IPB will act as the managing agent in the day to day operations
for the 4 year period
As outlined in the cooperative management guidelines, with a
renewable clause
Which provides for a continuation after that period based on the
body of active
Users/members individually being given one vote per
registered .Eco to reaffirm
Their support of IPB's management relationship.
Other related affairs and policy procedures conducted by IPB
Corporation
That are essential for daily operations will be contained in the
latter outlined
Cooperative management guidelines.
B. Technical Review
1. Summary Description
IPB Corporation proposes a sponsored (.Eco) TLD that is devoted
to a cooperative
Type of setting that harmonizes economics with ecology in a
globally sustainable
Environment. Due to an unknown number of applicants and
potentially qualified
Holders of this designation, preparations are being made for
internal systems
To support millions of users. Technically, a combination of
traditional and new
Innovations will be blended to create a hybrid architecture to
administrate the
Day to day operations that will be reflected in the front end
user interface as
Well as DNS administrative tools.
2. Support of Charter Plan by the Technical Plan
a. The start-up period is projected to be slow but with an
aggressive timetable
To be executed over a period of 90 days from launch to
completion of
Phase 1. Subsequent actions will be determined by the
volume of users
And resources necessary to continually expand services
for staffing
And revenues necessary for infrastructure support of
the project.
b. The projected growth rate is estimated to be slow
during phase 1 but with
Promotional efforts and referrals it is expected to
grow exponentially within
The following 6 months. The current and proposed
hardware needs are
Therefore considered to be not only adequate but meet
all anticipated
Growth potential.
c. The total capacity of this project has been designed
to be scalable based
On the new hybrid model. This takes the best of what
is currently been
Used and proven in the area of software and hardware
and also the new
Innovations designed by IPB Corporation. The result
is a fault tolerant
System that requires minimal manpower for operation as
well as systems
Designed to service the client without being labor and
time intensive as
Has been the case with some current business models.
Additional services
needed by a client will be available on a as needed
basis through an
automated services ticket feature.
d. Security is an important factor and is addressed
through standardized means
already available and considered as generally accepted
by industry peers.
This will continue to be a point of focus due to the
growing needs and the
continual security challenges that are directed
towards projects of this
nature on a daily basis.
e. Member services will be refined due to the importance
of a cooperative
type of environment. This subject is important due to
the shared objectives
of those participating whether it is an individual or
and organization. Each
registered member will be given the opportunity to
have a voice and a means
of participation so that a collective consensus of
this project continues to
give the best possible experience and demonstrate the
projects potential
as it is expanded. A distributed model of member
participation and the
responsibilities will help the secondary expansion
phase in order to meet the
needs of new staffing and resources. Project
innovations come from member
ranks so that new ideas and opportunities can first
come from within instead
of outside this project.
3. Synergies with oversight group
The .ECO cooperative in order to provide an atmosphere that
ensures compatibility and
compliance with member organizations and others who may
collaborate with this
project, will elect members as needed to serve on oversight
committees to review and
recommend necessary procedures and policies to the general body
for approval and
Actio.
4. Management Grievance Policy
The cooperative has employed a management firm to handle and
police it's membership
operations and it is empowered to take action against members
up to and not excluding
revoking membership status from the cooperative.
In the case of any member disputes requiring further
arbitration, an additional
process fee of $100.00 will be collected before arbitration
will be started. Once filed
the three parties involved:
1.> The originator of the arbitration request
2.> The other party in the original grievance
3.> The management firm who made the initial decision
All will have 1 week to prepare and deliver by email their
statements.
These statements will then be sent to the entire membership via
a bulk mail.
This bulk mail will use the standard verifiable independent
ballot
system where the email will include a spot for casting an
electronic vote.
The membership will then have 1 week to revue and cast their
electronic vote.
Absentee ballots not cast by that time will revert back to a
proxy vote by the
management company. Should the decision be in favor of the
filing party the
levying fee will be returned. A subsequent bulk mail will
inform the membership
of the outcome.
Clearly under this charter, OpenNIC relinquished control and ownership
of the TLD to that TLD membership. What, don't these guys bother to
read this stuff!! I guess not since none of the other TLD's seem to
have such a binding legal document for a charter...
In fact a great deal of work had been done by the .ECO members and the
the DNS server had been up and down several times. In fact at the
time OpenNIC decided to take action the DNS server had been taken down
by the .Eco until a new "Greener Solar Powered" one could replace it.
Under design and construction on August 2009.
I assume ".bbs", ".null",".dyn" currently not visible on OpenNIC. Can
they say the same thing?
Fact is a great number of people were and are working on ".ECO". Fact
is there was no official guidelines concerning operations of a TLD
other then it not violate it's charter.
Then on April 8th this was distributed within OpenNIC
From: Brian Koontz
Date: 8/9/2009 3:24:45 PM
To: dis...@lists.opennicproject.org
Subject: [opennic-discuss] .Eco "up for grabs"...
Looks like the inventor of the Internet, among others, is lined up to
Take possession of .Eco [1]...only problem is, it's already taken!
Maybe someone should tell Al Gore and the rest?
Or, I predict ICANN will simply take it as theirs, much as they've
Done in the past.
--Brian
; Top-Level Domain: ECO
; Domain ID: DW-ECO
; Root Administrator: dotWORLDS [DW]
; Zone contact: doma...@dotworlds.net
;
ECO. NS NS1.ECO.
ECO. NS NS2.ECO.
NS1.ECO. A 72.55.140.187
NS2.ECO. A 72.55.140.180
;
; Top-Level Domain: ECO
; Domain ID: PR-3-ECO
; Root Administrator: Herman Xennt [PR-3]
; Zone contact: Unknown
;
ECO. NS NS1.VRX.NET.
ECO. NS NS2.VRX.NET.
NS1.VRX.NET. A 199.166.24.1
NS1.VRX.NET. A 199.166.27.6
NS2.VRX.NET. A 199.166.28.10
;
; Top-Level Domain: ECO
; Domain ID: WR-ECO
; Root Administrator: WorldRoot (AGN Domain Name Service, Inc)
[WR]
; Zone contact: Unknown
;
ECO. NS NS1.VRX.NET.
ECO. NS NS2.VRX.NET.
NS1.VRX.NET. A 199.166.24.1
NS1.VRX.NET. A 199.166.27.6
NS2.VRX.NET. A 199.166.28.10
Well guess what, ICANN didn't make the first move to take it, OpenNIC
did!
Why would OpenNIC do this you ask? Well maybe this Email will shed
some light on the matter
From: Alex Nordlund
Date: 8/11/2009 7:15:15 AM
To: dis...@lists.opennicproject.org
Subject: Re: [opennic-discuss] .Eco "up for grabs"...
> On Mon, 2009-08-10 at 14:35 +1000, Julian De Marchi wrote:
> We run a .Eco TLD.
>
I say we offer Al Gore control over it and then ask ICANN if they're
Interested in peering ;-)
---
//Alex
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If that's not politics I don't know what is!
Then it came to the day of the vote, yet another joke!
Common practice had been to give a weeks notice in advance and then
have a vote that last at least 24 hours. OpenNIC has
more then 200 members yet only 8 where able to vote that day.
And one of those 8 votes was against the move to drop .Eco
I know because it was my vote!!
Worse when people inside the .Eco project turned out to vote by email
they could not, so they went to OpenNIC to join many finding the links
and site at OpenNIC down.
Even Joe Meredith, a veteran IT exec who did finally manage to
navigate that day and join was unable to vote because he had not been
approved yet.
OpenNIC has tried to paint me as
The person is Bret Lang and he is still subscribed to this list. He
Proposed the TLD .Eco within OpenNIC. It was voted in nearly a year
Ago. He had that time to setup his .Eco TLD and resources. He did not,
And we voted to drop the said TLD. You all know the story.
He has a vendeta against us now and the site you see is the result of
This.
Nothing could be further from the truth, I'm a "GREEN" guy who was
preoccupided with pulling the .ECO project together and looked at
OpenNIC as a means to resolve DNS.
This unfortunate incident has brought to light legal and structural
ineffiencies within the OpenNIC group.
On the brighter side, it will now allow us to GREEN the next
generations internet root system.
within OpenNIC concerning inactivity.
To this date there never has been official notification by the
organization to the TLD operators concerning new guidelines relating
to such a policy. Second, when OpenNIC adopted .ECO it did so with
acceptance of it's charter:
CHARTER
A. General Description of the Charter
1. TLD String Requested
.Eco
2. Category
Special Purpose Membership
.ECO will as defined by the International Co-operative
Alliance's
Statement on the Co-operative Identity setup a membership
Autonomous association of persons & organizations united to
Meet their common economic, social, cultural, needs
And aspirations through a jointly-owned and democratically
Controlled top-level Internet domain .ECO
The IPB corporation has initiated through the Open Nic Project
the formal request
To develop and sponsor the .Eco TLD as a means of bridging the
common points
Of interest between economies and ecology. It is planned that
this effort will help
Build a common global forum between the two bodies and promote
the best types
Of practices that can have a beneficial and lasting effect on
humanity and the
Planet. IPB targets a qualified membership registrant base,
with a particular focus
On the end user base having a goal of conducting it's affairs in
an honorable and a
Sustainably progressive manner so as to promote a high level of
best practices for
The .Eco community.
3. Registry Operator
IPB corporation was created during 2005 and incorporated by 2006
as the eventual
Recipient of staff, resources and clients from it's predecessor
companies. IPB's
Being given all this enabled it to launch Internet related
services that were the
Outgrowth of prior software and hardware developments. As a
Florida based
Corporation, IPB benefits by the the rapid growth and development
which is the
Hallmark of Florida's rise in status as a economic and geographic
powerhouse.
The unique experience of software development, hosting and audio/
video
Streaming services
This makes IPB ideally suited to the demands that will be placed
on the companies
Staff to do what is necessary to make the project a success.
Due to the scale at which IPB's services are currently being used
globally and
The large scale distribution of services through it's existing
Internet platform, it
Has been proven conclusively that the assignment and distribution
of .Eco
Designations and it's accompanying website content can be
distributed with ease.
4. Registry-Registrar Model
For the first 4 year term from initial launch to 4 calendar
years maturity, IPB in it's
Current and eventual form will be the sole managing agent and
registrar for the
Cooperative. This is vital to the overall intent of providing
the domain holders
With a consistent and progressive growth in a cooperative type of
environment
That fosters trust and a fertile atmosphere of sharing the best
ideas and practices
To be used by those who are part of the cooperative
environment.
IPB will act as the managing agent in the day to day operations
for the 4 year period
As outlined in the cooperative management guidelines, with a
renewable clause
Which provides for a continuation after that period based on the
body of active
Users/members individually being given one vote per
registered .Eco to reaffirm
Their support of IPB's management relationship.
Other related affairs and policy procedures conducted by IPB
Corporation
That are essential for daily operations will be contained in the
latter outlined
Cooperative management guidelines.
B. Technical Review
1. Summary Description
IPB Corporation proposes a sponsored (.Eco) TLD that is devoted
to a cooperative
Type of setting that harmonizes economics with ecology in a
globally sustainable
Environment. Due to an unknown number of applicants and
potentially qualified
Holders of this designation, preparations are being made for
internal systems
To support millions of users. Technically, a combination of
traditional and new
Innovations will be blended to create a hybrid architecture to
administrate the
Day to day operations that will be reflected in the front end
user interface as
Well as DNS administrative tools.
2. Support of Charter Plan by the Technical Plan
a. The start-up period is projected to be slow but with an
aggressive timetable
To be executed over a period of 90 days from launch to
completion of
Phase 1. Subsequent actions will be determined by the
volume of users
And resources necessary to continually expand services
for staffing
And revenues necessary for infrastructure support of
the project.
b. The projected growth rate is estimated to be slow
during phase 1 but with
Promotional efforts and referrals it is expected to
grow exponentially within
The following 6 months. The current and proposed
hardware needs are
Therefore considered to be not only adequate but meet
all anticipated
Growth potential.
c. The total capacity of this project has been designed
to be scalable based
On the new hybrid model. This takes the best of what
is currently been
Used and proven in the area of software and hardware
and also the new
Innovations designed by IPB Corporation. The result
is a fault tolerant
System that requires minimal manpower for operation as
well as systems
Designed to service the client without being labor and
time intensive as
Has been the case with some current business models.
Additional services
needed by a client will be available on a as needed
basis through an
automated services ticket feature.
d. Security is an important factor and is addressed
through standardized means
already available and considered as generally accepted
by industry peers.
This will continue to be a point of focus due to the
growing needs and the
continual security challenges that are directed
towards projects of this
nature on a daily basis.
e. Member services will be refined due to the importance
of a cooperative
type of environment. This subject is important due to
the shared objectives
of those participating whether it is an individual or
and organization. Each
registered member will be given the opportunity to
have a voice and a means
of participation so that a collective consensus of
this project continues to
give the best possible experience and demonstrate the
projects potential
as it is expanded. A distributed model of member
participation and the
responsibilities will help the secondary expansion
phase in order to meet the
needs of new staffing and resources. Project
innovations come from member
ranks so that new ideas and opportunities can first
come from within instead
of outside this project.
3. Synergies with oversight group
The .ECO cooperative in order to provide an atmosphere that
ensures compatibility and
compliance with member organizations and others who may
collaborate with this
project, will elect members as needed to serve on oversight
committees to review and
recommend necessary procedures and policies to the general body
for approval and
Actio.
4. Management Grievance Policy
The cooperative has employed a management firm to handle and
police it's membership
operations and it is empowered to take action against members
up to and not excluding
revoking membership status from the cooperative.
In the case of any member disputes requiring further
arbitration, an additional
process fee of $100.00 will be collected before arbitration
will be started. Once filed
the three parties involved:
1.> The originator of the arbitration request
2.> The other party in the original grievance
3.> The management firm who made the initial decision
All will have 1 week to prepare and deliver by email their
statements.
These statements will then be sent to the entire membership via
a bulk mail.
This bulk mail will use the standard verifiable independent
ballot
system where the email will include a spot for casting an
electronic vote.
The membership will then have 1 week to revue and cast their
electronic vote.
Absentee ballots not cast by that time will revert back to a
proxy vote by the
management company. Should the decision be in favor of the
filing party the
levying fee will be returned. A subsequent bulk mail will
inform the membership
of the outcome.
Clearly under this charter, OpenNIC relinquished control and ownership
of the TLD to that TLD membership. What, don't these guys bother to
read this stuff!! I guess not since none of the other TLD's seem to
have such a binding legal document for a charter...
In fact a great deal of work had been done by the .ECO members and the
the DNS server had been up and down several times. In fact at the
time OpenNIC decided to take action the DNS server had been taken down
by the .Eco until a new "Greener Solar Powered" one could replace it.
Under design and construction on August 2009.
I assume ".bbs", ".null",".dyn" currently not visible on OpenNIC. Can
they say the same thing?
Fact is a great number of people were and are working on ".ECO". Fact
is there was no official guidelines concerning operations of a TLD
other then it not violate it's charter.
Then on April 8th this was distributed within OpenNIC
From: Brian Koontz
Date: 8/9/2009 3:24:45 PM
To: dis...@lists.opennicproject.org
Subject: [opennic-discuss] .Eco "up for grabs"...
Looks like the inventor of the Internet, among others, is lined up to
Take possession of .Eco [1]...only problem is, it's already taken!
Maybe someone should tell Al Gore and the rest?
Or, I predict ICANN will simply take it as theirs, much as they've
Done in the past.
--Brian
; Top-Level Domain: ECO
; Domain ID: DW-ECO
; Root Administrator: dotWORLDS [DW]
; Zone contact: doma...@dotworlds.net
;
ECO. NS NS1.ECO.
ECO. NS NS2.ECO.
NS1.ECO. A 72.55.140.187
NS2.ECO. A 72.55.140.180
;
; Top-Level Domain: ECO
; Domain ID: PR-3-ECO
; Root Administrator: Herman Xennt [PR-3]
; Zone contact: Unknown
;
ECO. NS NS1.VRX.NET.
ECO. NS NS2.VRX.NET.
NS1.VRX.NET. A 199.166.24.1
NS1.VRX.NET. A 199.166.27.6
NS2.VRX.NET. A 199.166.28.10
;
; Top-Level Domain: ECO
; Domain ID: WR-ECO
; Root Administrator: WorldRoot (AGN Domain Name Service, Inc)
[WR]
; Zone contact: Unknown
;
ECO. NS NS1.VRX.NET.
ECO. NS NS2.VRX.NET.
NS1.VRX.NET. A 199.166.24.1
NS1.VRX.NET. A 199.166.27.6
NS2.VRX.NET. A 199.166.28.10
Well guess what, ICANN didn't make the first move to take it, OpenNIC
did!
Why would OpenNIC do this you ask? Well maybe this Email will shed
some light on the matter
From: Alex Nordlund
Date: 8/11/2009 7:15:15 AM
To: dis...@lists.opennicproject.org
Subject: Re: [opennic-discuss] .Eco "up for grabs"...
> On Mon, 2009-08-10 at 14:35 +1000, Julian De Marchi wrote:
> We run a .Eco TLD.
>
I say we offer Al Gore control over it and then ask ICANN if they're
Interested in peering ;-)
---
//Alex
-
To unsubscribe, email majo...@lists.opennicproject.org with the
words
"unsubscribe discuss" in the body of the message.
If that's not politics I don't know what is!
Then it came to the day of the vote, yet another joke!
Common practice had been to give a weeks notice in advance and then
have a vote that last at least 24 hours. OpenNIC has
more then 200 members yet only 8 where able to vote that day.
And one of those 8 votes was against the move to drop .Eco
I know because it was my vote!!
Worse when people inside the .Eco project turned out to vote by email
they could not, so they went to OpenNIC to join many finding the links
and site at OpenNIC down.
Even Joe Meredith, a veteran IT exec who did finally manage to
navigate that day and join was unable to vote because he had not been
approved yet.
OpenNIC has tried to paint me as
The person is Bret Lang and he is still subscribed to this list. He
Proposed the TLD .Eco within OpenNIC. It was voted in nearly a year
Ago. He had that time to setup his .Eco TLD and resources. He did not,
And we voted to drop the said TLD. You all know the story.
He has a vendeta against us now and the site you see is the result of
This.
Nothing could be further from the truth, I'm a "GREEN" guy who was
preoccupided with pulling the .ECO project together and looked at
OpenNIC as a means to resolve DNS.
This unfortunate incident has brought to light legal and structural
ineffiencies within the OpenNIC group.
On the brighter side, it will now allow us to GREEN the next
generations internet root system.
texnofobix
Oct 9, 2009, 2:50:22 AM10/9/09
to GlobalDNA.org
This is what I don't get:
1. It was noted on the mailing list that it wasn't resolving at all.
WHERE was the email saying, we are moving servers and etc.
2. When it was initially setup. WHERE was the emails to the operations
group to slave .eco? I never got one on the operations list or my own.
3. ns6.opennic.glue is run by me personally. I run .dyn and .bbs. Both
are setup as in NS wise as they resolve.
Seriously, it looks like the ball was dropped on one side of the court
and it stayed there for several months.
I see that .ECO is still not even set up.
dig @68.56.26.129 eco NS
; <<>> DiG 9.4.3-P3 <<>> @68.56.26.129 eco NS
; (1 server found)
;; global options: printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NXDOMAIN, id: 2113
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 1, ADDITIONAL: 0
;; QUESTION SECTION:
;eco. IN NS
;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
. 10585 IN SOA A.ROOT-SERVERS.NET.
NSTLD.VERISIGN-GRS.COM. 2009100801 1800 900 604800 86400
;; Query time: 82 msec
;; SERVER: 68.56.26.129#53(68.56.26.129)
;; WHEN: Fri Oct 9 02:47:27 2009
;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 96
Oh and the webpage hasn't changed yet, and I'm quite disappointed.
> ; Zone contact: domain...@dotworlds.net
> To unsubscribe, email majord...@lists.opennicproject.org with the
1. It was noted on the mailing list that it wasn't resolving at all.
WHERE was the email saying, we are moving servers and etc.
2. When it was initially setup. WHERE was the emails to the operations
group to slave .eco? I never got one on the operations list or my own.
3. ns6.opennic.glue is run by me personally. I run .dyn and .bbs. Both
are setup as in NS wise as they resolve.
Seriously, it looks like the ball was dropped on one side of the court
and it stayed there for several months.
I see that .ECO is still not even set up.
dig @68.56.26.129 eco NS
; <<>> DiG 9.4.3-P3 <<>> @68.56.26.129 eco NS
; (1 server found)
;; global options: printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NXDOMAIN, id: 2113
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 1, ADDITIONAL: 0
;; QUESTION SECTION:
;eco. IN NS
;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
. 10585 IN SOA A.ROOT-SERVERS.NET.
NSTLD.VERISIGN-GRS.COM. 2009100801 1800 900 604800 86400
;; Query time: 82 msec
;; SERVER: 68.56.26.129#53(68.56.26.129)
;; WHEN: Fri Oct 9 02:47:27 2009
;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 96
Oh and the webpage hasn't changed yet, and I'm quite disappointed.
IPB Corporation
Oct 9, 2009, 10:50:07 AM10/9/09
to GlobalDNA.org
Well long story short and reguardless of who dropped the ball the
simple fact remains that
at the time it was issued by OpenNIC inactivity of a TLD was not
grounds for its removal in the future.
Only violation of a TLD as it relates to its charter is grounds for a
TLDs removal.
Further infact as having accepted .ECO organizations charter which
clearly spells out that OpenNIC legally was bound to
resolve any other issues it had in the future through the resolution
process of that organization. Which it did not.
So in short, if members within OpenNIC where concerned. They should
have joined .ECO and worked with the
group from inside to speed getting the DNS back online. A root server
organization should Macro Manage TLD's
not Micro Manage them.
simple fact remains that
at the time it was issued by OpenNIC inactivity of a TLD was not
grounds for its removal in the future.
Only violation of a TLD as it relates to its charter is grounds for a
TLDs removal.
Further infact as having accepted .ECO organizations charter which
clearly spells out that OpenNIC legally was bound to
resolve any other issues it had in the future through the resolution
process of that organization. Which it did not.
So in short, if members within OpenNIC where concerned. They should
have joined .ECO and worked with the
group from inside to speed getting the DNS back online. A root server
organization should Macro Manage TLD's
not Micro Manage them.
texnofobix
Oct 9, 2009, 11:20:53 AM10/9/09
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I don't believe that's OpenNIC's responsibility of the owner doesn't
even ask. You were on the mailing list no?
I monitor the OpenNIC mailing list for my nameserver.
Here's an analogy:
-A student comes into the classroom. He gets a seat.
-He zones out and doesn't realize people are talking to him.
-He doesn't do his assignments.
-They expel him from the school for not following orders or doing his
work.
You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink.
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even ask. You were on the mailing list no?
I monitor the OpenNIC mailing list for my nameserver.
Here's an analogy:
-A student comes into the classroom. He gets a seat.
-He zones out and doesn't realize people are talking to him.
-He doesn't do his assignments.
-They expel him from the school for not following orders or doing his
work.
You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink.
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