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You can think of Catia V5 functionality as a mix of SolidWorks and Creo. The sketcher is similar to Creo with regard to actual sketching of elements and dimensioning. Icons galore. It has flavors of old non Intent Manager from earlier versions of Pro/E. You might find this the most exasperating thing if you like Creo's ease of sketching. The sketch "plane" setup is somewhat like SolidWorks...I.E. pick a flat "something" and then select sketch.
If you are surfacing it's very much like Creo in the sense that it's curve based. Good curves makes good surfaces. If you have built surfaces in Creo with merges then you will have a good idea how Catia requires it's surfaces to be constructed. You will merge them in the end and create a solid. Like Creo you can create a surface model and then "solidify" in the end and/or create from a solid in the beginning and Boolean to the end of the model. All very similar.
Many thanks for the reply, I've used Pro/E since release 17/18 so do remember the old intent manager. I'm not to concerned with the modelling side of things it is more of the assembly management side of things regarding large assembly management, are there things like simplified reps, skeleton models & top down design.
I was pitched V5 when it was first introduced to the Automotive world back in 93/94/95. The "pitch" was V5 was "better" than Pro/E because it was a Hybrid Modeler, either parametric (constrained) or not (kumbaya). They played to the hype that Pro/E prevented "ease of data creation" by being too rigid. In other words, Dassault was playing on the complaints (lack of skill actually) of people new to Pro/E that it was too difficult and restrictive because it made users constrain sketches 100% before it would solve. They even went as far as to say that Catia was faster because it solved it's math simultaneously where as Pro/E solved it sequentially. HUH? While I never followed up on this claim, I wonder if V5 was able to multi-task dual processors back then and that is what they were saying. Although we did side by side speed tests and Pro/E beat V5 every time. Anyway, all this was way before Pro's Intent Manager was introduced. Remember AutoDim? That was PTC's first counter punch to the Hybrid Modeling hype. Then along came Intent Manager and then Strong/Weak dims we have now. SDRC also played this same tune by saying "it doesn't matter....leave that geometry with no dimensions...our system is so much better than the others. Bunk! The reality of that pitch is V5 and SDRC (and even Creo) fail downstream if those items are left "floating" through the data cycle. Once customers got burned by this a couple times they changed their tune. We had clients back in the day that didn't allow unconstrained sketches/geometry in any of their data. They would not accept it unless it was locked down. The term Hybrid Modeling was nothing more than a sales pitch.
I seem to remember (and with each gray hair grown, one memory goes with it) that we paid $25k for each seat (2 seats) and $25K for each computer (2) for a total of $100k. We had custom built Alpha workstatations, 233MHz RISC processors (that's not GHz) that included $6k graphics cards. Pentiums had just come out and the fastest one the market was 120MHz so our pro/e workstations screamed!!!!
My first 2 seats of Unigraphics II V3 in 1987 with a 16MB VAX/GPX and 2-159MB drives plus a 5MB diskless GPX was ....just under $100K, which was the funding corporate approved for the setup. Yes that is correct MegaBytes, not GigaBytes!!
Prices vary depending on corporate contracts. One company I worked for had the price negotiated for Wildfire down to 10,500 per seat with Windchill included. We had a contractor deal in the contract where they could buy a seat for our corporate rate if they were designing parts for us. There was also an employee purchase price of 5K/seat if anyone could afford it.
Far from being exhasuitve (batch file can also doing much more things, like clearing cache, perform automatic copy of config.pro or even creo_parametric_customization.ui files BEFORE startup of Creo Parametric application), but hope this gives already a good starting point for the configuration you would like to implement in your Department.
SolidWorks and PTC Creo are two of the most popular 3D modeling platforms on the market. Fortunately, I have had the opportunity to use both of these. I used a combination of ProE Wildfire 3, Wildfire 5, and Creo 2.0 for about 3 years, and have been using SolidWorks for almost a month. When comparing Creo and SolidWorks, SolidWorks is generally thought of as being a much simpler and more intuitive tool, and Creo much more powerful and complicated to learn. Before I get into my experiences with learning SolidWorks, I would like to state that in my opinion, an understanding of 3D modeling will yield very successful results with either software.
In the next few sections, I am going to describe my impressions while learning SolidWorks. Since I have only been using SolidWorks for about a month, I fully expect some of my preferences to change as time goes on. I will start with general impressions, move into the sketching tool, and then finish with assemblies. In future posts, I will look more into drawings, and surfacing.
One thing that took quite a bit of getting used to with SolidWorks is not being able to use the Middle Mouse Button to acknowledge prompts. This is something that while using Creo becomes second nature for confirming sketch planes, finishing line chains, and confirming extrudes. The closest equivalent I was able to find in SolidWorks is the double click. In SolidWorks a double mouse click will complete a line chain and exit a sketch.
Another assumption regarding SolidWorks is that it is much more intuitive than Creo. While learning SolidWorks this did seem to be the case with me. Learning SolidWorks has been significantly easier than learning ProE Wildfire 3. Part of this may be the fact that I am comfortable in a 3D modeling environment which helps in learning SolidWorks.
SolidWorks on the other hand, shows fully defined geometry as black and under defined geometry as blue without an indication of what is needed to fully define the sketch. Below is a sketch very similar to the one done in Creo. Both of the sketches have the same number of user defined dimensions. The SolidWorks sketch gives less information regarding what needs to be done in order to define the sketch.
I'm evaluating a job change, and I've been working in recent years, with CREO. The job offer, it's for the same business type, but I will need to work with inventor. My only work with inventor, it was at university a few years ago. My question, is for the ones who made this transition from CREO to Inventor is.
Creo from PTC is the leading CAD software platform for all types of design, from individual parts to complete products. Many teams wonder how Creo, with its dominating market presence, compares to other CAD platforms like Pro/E (also known as Pro/Engineer). So, which is better when it comes to Creo vs Pro/E?
Complete late-stage design changes without completely throwing project deadlines off track. New tools allow users to make modifications to geometry directly without losing original design intent or having to start modeling from scratch.
Many organizations are forced to work in a multi-CAD environment for a variety of reasons, whether they need to piecemeal various tools together or just work with partners who use a different system. However, working in this environment can be challenging. Typically, to open CAD files outside of your software setup, you must translate the files. This task is not only time consuming but often introduces errors that can cause other issues in the design process.
PTC includes online training with every license of Creo. This integrated training includes over 200 free tutorials to help new users learn how to use the product and to help experts refine their skills. In addition to the training, PTC also has large online, local, and regional communities to further assist users.
The application is based on the parametric modeling approach, which means that it uses parameters, dimensions, features, and relationships to enable design automation and optimization of design and product development processes. Companies with family-based or platform-driven product strategy make use of this approach for what they need to perform successful design processes is a prescriptive design strategy.
The capabilities of the product can be split into three main groups, that is Engineering design, Analysis and Manufacturing. Product design processes include the ability to generate geometry of other integrated design disciplines such as industrial and standard pipe work and complete wiring definitions. Creo has numerous analysis tools which help with the development of the product which include human factors, manufacturing tolerance, mould flow and design optimization. As for manufacturing, the app has tooling options for molding, die-casting and progressive tooling design.
- Creo Bridge establishes a connection between PTC Creo and EVOLVE Design in order to
transfer data back and forth between the two software packages. - EVOLVE Design can load the CAD model and all the annotations (PMI) from the active
window of Creo with 1 single click. - GD&T tolerances can be verified and changes/corrections can be applied inside EVOLVE Design using the GD&T Proofing panel and other useful tools.
- Changes can be sent back to Creo anytime.
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