Screw 'Yer Roommate
The Little Unicorn
I felt like having some fun with this:
Dominique wrote:
> Yes, the rumor mill is true. The Residene Hall Association's 2nd
> Annual Screw 'Yer Roommate is coming up again next Saturday, February 15,
> 1997 (the day after Valentine's Day)!
>
> How do I participate you ask?
> 1) Come up with a person your roommate (or if you prefer) or your friend
> should go out. It can be a person they have always had a crush on
> and stared at in Enginereering Economy lecture. It can be person that
> they would totally hate. However, generally, you want to be trusted.
I've never taken the Engineering Economy lecture. Guess that leaves me
out.
> 2) Walk up to that person's roommate randomly or (Tech style) e-mail them
> letting them know that you want to set _your_ roommate up with _their_
> roommate.
And how are we supposed to find the roommate?
> 3) Come up with a way to figure out how they should meet. It can be as
> creative as you want - the more creative, the better. Find a common
> interest and perhaps make them meet in that environment.
Ah yes, with the creativity on campus, this will be NO PROBLEM.
> 4) MOST IMPORTANT: Tell your roommate/friend that you got them a Screw
> 'Yer Roommate date, BUT DON'T TELL THEM WITH WHOM THEY ARE SET UP.
My roommate's already got a boyfriend and a chemistry lab partner. What
more could she want?
> 5) Let them meet and go out. Personal recommendation: make it a simple
> movie and dinner type of date.
There's that creativity again.
> 6) After going out, be sure and stop by our own Under the Couch. We will
> have a very cool local acoustical band, Another Man Down, and be offering
> free cheesecake and coffee to all couples.
I'd go just for the FREE cheesecake. Yeah, fat, fat, fat, fat, and more
fat.
> 7) Make sure you and your date sign the revered Screw 'Yer Roommate
> guestbook and draw for a prize. Our prizes range from cool restaurant
> gift certificates to some interestingly shaped vegetables to gifts from
> 9 1/2 Weeks.
Vegetables? What am I supposed to do with "some interestingly shaped
vegetables"?
> Questions, please don't hesitate to contact me. The more people who
> participate in this event, the more fun it can be for the whole campus.
An activity to bring the whole campus together--isn't that just grand?
> Thanks for your help,
I need all the help I can get.
> MC Moore
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In article <32F29D...@prism.gatech.edu>,
>And how are we supposed to find the roommate?
If you are smart enough to go to Tech, you are smart enough and have a
cool enough friendship with your roommate or friend to do some research on
who date's roommate is.
>My roommate's already got a boyfriend and a chemistry lab partner. What
>more could she want?
Find a friend then, as posted before. It still will work.
>> 5) Let them meet and go out. Personal recommendation: make it a simple
>> movie and dinner type of date.
>
>There's that creativity again.
You can do something more elaborate, but if you get screwed, do you really
want to get stuck at some dark national park or something?
>Vegetables? What am I supposed to do with "some interestingly shaped
>vegetables"?
well, do you any orifaces? :)
>An activity to bring the whole campus together--isn't that just grand?
Wow. Is this sarcasm? Tech needs some cooler social activities.
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Dominique (gt2...@prism.gatech.edu) wrote:
: Wow. Is this sarcasm? Tech needs some cooler social activities.
Heh. Tech does not need more social activities. It needs more academics.
What, do we want to become more like UGA?
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geoff menegay
Dominique <gt2...@prism.gatech.edu> wrote:
:>Vegetables? What am I supposed to do with "some interestingly shaped
:>vegetables"?
:
:well, do you any orifaces? :)
You know, I was going to correct you on the lack of the word "have" in
this sentence.
....
But it's a whole hell of a lot funnier this way.
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>Heh. Tech does not need more social activities. It needs more academics.
>What, do we want to become more like UGA?
Tech needs to go co-ed...
or maybe tech just needs to get laid.
jacob sherwood
Lightning Jack
Kevin Tuttle (gt7...@acmex.gatech.edu) wrote:
: Heh. Tech does not need more social activities. It needs more academics.
: What, do we want to become more like UGA?
Gotta disagree there. One needs academics _and_ social activity in
balance, in order to be a more well-rounded individual.
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In article <5cuq4j$n...@catapult.gatech.edu>,
Lightning Jack <gt7...@acmey.gatech.edu> wrote:
>
>Gotta disagree there. One needs academics _and_ social activity in
>balance, in order to be a more well-rounded individual.
I gotta disagree here. You have the rest of your lives to learn what
well-rounded means, and you will certainly NOT learn it at Tech,
regardless of the availability of social activities. :)
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geoff menegay wrote:
>
> Dominique <gt2...@prism.gatech.edu> wrote:
> :
> :well, do you any orifaces? :)
>
> You know, I was going to correct you on the lack of the word "have" in
> this sentence.
>
> ....
>
> But it's a whole hell of a lot funnier this way.
I noticed that as well, and I'll have to agree! ;-)
The Little Unicorn
Kevin Tuttle wrote:
> Perhaps. But I do not believe that it is the responsibility of Tech to
> provide that foundation. I, for one, am going to Tech for a degree, not
> to learn social skills. I certainly think that's where the bulk of the
> money ought to go. :)
> --
I have the same sentiments, however, what good is a degree if you don't
have social skills? That's why I like Freshman Experience, I've met so
many cool people and my section is a tight group of females. I've never
felt so in place in my life. We go to aerobics together, we order
Chinese and pizza together, we do homework together, but most
importantly, we laugh, cry and have fun together. I, too, am at Tech
for a degree and I've heard about the male-female ratio. It is Tech's
responsiblity to help us get a degree but at the same time we can't
spend all of our time with studying. Tech realizes this and is trying
to get us to socialize, this is just one way of facilitating it.
Kevin Tuttle
Lightning Jack (gt7...@acmey.gatech.edu) wrote:
: Gotta disagree there. One needs academics _and_ social activity in
: balance, in order to be a more well-rounded individual.
Perhaps. But I do not believe that it is the responsibility of Tech to
provide that foundation. I, for one, am going to Tech for a degree, not
to learn social skills. I certainly think that's where the bulk of the
money ought to go. :)
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Lightning Jack
Kevin Tuttle (gt7...@acmey.gatech.edu) wrote:
: Perhaps. But I do not believe that it is the responsibility of Tech to
: provide that foundation. I, for one, am going to Tech for a degree, not
: to learn social skills. I certainly think that's where the bulk of the
: money ought to go. :)
You're right, Tech should spend the majority of its money on academic
things. But how much could something like "Screw Yer Roommate" cost? My
guess is a couple thousand, max. And (correct me if I'm wrong), but since
it's RHA money, doesn't that come out of people's Housing costs? It's not
tuition-dependant, and since you don't live on campus it doesn't cost you
a penny. :)
Lightning Jack
Timothy Ronald Volk (gt2...@prism.gatech.edu) wrote:
: I gotta disagree here. You have the rest of your lives to learn what
: well-rounded means, and you will certainly NOT learn it at Tech,
: regardless of the availability of social activities. :)
Ah, but I disagree again! :) My girlfriend's father graduated from Ma
Tech in '71, and (for lack of a better way to put it) he has the social
skills of a slug. He has no friends, and all he does is either read the
paper, listen to NPR, or go sailing on his boat. If you don't at least
start trying to build friendships and social skills in college, you'll end
up like that. It's not where I plan to be..
Jason Kau
Lightning Jack (gt7...@acmey.gatech.edu) wrote:
: Ah, but I disagree again! :) My girlfriend's father graduated from Ma
: Tech in '71, and (for lack of a better way to put it) he has the social
: skills of a slug. He has no friends, and all he does is either read the
: paper, listen to NPR, or go sailing on his boat. If you don't at least
: start trying to build friendships and social skills in college, you'll end
: up like that. It's not where I plan to be..
And what's wrong with that? Not everyone has to have friends to be happy.
jason kau
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Timothy Ronald Volk
In article <5d045i$s...@catapult.gatech.edu>,
Lightning Jack <gt7...@acmey.gatech.edu> wrote:
>Ah, but I disagree again! :) My girlfriend's father graduated from Ma
>Tech in '71, and (for lack of a better way to put it) he has the social
>skills of a slug. He has no friends, and all he does is either read the
Let's decide which we will talk about, "well-rounded" (from your initial
post) or "social skills" (from your recent post).
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#>Tech in '71, and (for lack of a better way to put it) he has the social
#>skills of a slug. He has no friends, and all he does is either read the
#>paper, listen to NPR, or go sailing on his boat. If you don't at least
#>start trying to build friendships and social skills in college, you'll
#end
#>up like that. It's not where I plan to be..
Yes, yes, yes, but if he's _happy_ being a social slug, more power
to him.
And of course, he may have wonderful social skills...just never
feels like using them. Some folks actually like very, very long periods of
solitude...
Carey [hermit at heart]
Jimmie McEver
gt7...@acmey.gatech.edu (Kevin Tuttle) writes:
>Perhaps. But I do not believe that it is the responsibility of Tech to
>provide that foundation. I, for one, am going to Tech for a degree, not
>to learn social skills. I certainly think that's where the bulk of the
>money ought to go. :)
Despite the smiley, I'm going to respond to this...
Believe me, the bulk of the money does go for that (well, for that and
research)...of Tech's budget of roughly $400 million -- this includes
research activity -- remember that only about $3 million, your activity
fee and (I'm being generous here) athletic fee, go to social activities
(I'm including SAC, the Student Center, the Theatre for the Arts,
organizations, etc.). The Student Services...sorry, Student
Affairs...budget is also a miniscule fraction of the $400 million --
Student Affairs may have a budget of $10 million (if I'm wrong, someone
please correct this figure).
So don't worry about the bulk of Tech's money going to social
activities...it ain't happenin'!
An aside:
It's interesting that you said you came to Tech for a degree and not an
education...that says a lot about our student body!
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Lightning Jack
Jason Kau (ja...@r34h11.res.gatech.edu) wrote:
: And what's wrong with that? Not everyone has to have friends to be happy.
No, I agree that he should do whatever makes him happy. But I'm saying
that assuming that most people _aren't_ like that, i.e. they want social
activities, then there should be a variety of them here.
Lightning Jack
: post) or "social skills" (from your recent post).
In my definition, a "well-rounded" individual possesses excellence both in
academic and social skills.
Kevin Tuttle
The Little Unicorn (gt6...@prism.gatech.edu) wrote:
: I have the same sentiments, however, what good is a degree if you don't
: have social skills?
Well, it all depends on your major, I suppose. I would think an LCC major
would need vast social skills just to get a job :) while a CS major
probably would not need quite as much. Perhaps applicable schools should
have classes towards those ends and thereby not blindly use the money for
"everyone" since not everyone needs or wants the "help".
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: : And what's wrong with that? Not everyone has to have friends to be happy.
: No, I agree that he should do whatever makes him happy. But I'm saying
: that assuming that most people _aren't_ like that, i.e. they want social
: activities, then there should be a variety of them here.
The fact that people are so socially inept that they don't even acknowledge
the problem is the reason people say they come here just for academics.
Most people aren't like the bulk of the population at Tech. (Thank god).
Personally, I come for both things, and if everyone else did as well, then
maybe people could function better in society.
I frequently wonder about what people will do when they get out of Tech. Sure,
there are the success stories, but how many CS people willi be sitting in
a dark room pumping out C code all day like a machine? Sadly, for lots of
people at this school, that's a happy life. After all, what else is important
if you're making money? (sarcasm)
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Kevin Tuttle
Jimmie McEver (gt8...@prism.gatech.edu) wrote:
: Believe me, the bulk of the money does go for that (well, for that and
: research)...of Tech's budget of roughly $400 million -- this includes
: research activity -- remember that only about $3 million, your activity
: fee and (I'm being generous here) athletic fee, go to social activities
: (I'm including SAC, the Student Center, the Theatre for the Arts,
: organizations, etc.). The Student Services...sorry, Student
: Affairs...budget is also a miniscule fraction of the $400 million --
: Student Affairs may have a budget of $10 million (if I'm wrong, someone
: please correct this figure).
I'm glad to hear it.
: It's interesting that you said you came to Tech for a degree and not an
: education...that says a lot about our student body!
Hmmm...I sense false quoting here.
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Kevin Tuttle
Lightning Jack (gt7...@acmey.gatech.edu) wrote:
: things. But how much could something like "Screw Yer Roommate" cost? My
I wasn't speaking of this in particular. I was responding to a message
that happened to be in this thread.
: guess is a couple thousand, max. And (correct me if I'm wrong), but since
: it's RHA money, doesn't that come out of people's Housing costs? It's not
: tuition-dependant, and since you don't live on campus it doesn't cost you
: a penny. :)
Well, I think if we traced all of the money we'd find that I paid for some
of it somehow. But, going on your assumptions, my position is irrelevant.
The principles are the same it's just that the result doesn't apply to me.
:)
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Kevin Tuttle
Lightning Jack (gt7...@acmey.gatech.edu) wrote:
: Ah, but I disagree again! :) My girlfriend's father graduated from Ma
: Tech in '71, and (for lack of a better way to put it) he has the social
: skills of a slug.
Hehe.
: He has no friends, and all he does is either read the
: paper, listen to NPR, or go sailing on his boat. If you don't at least
: start trying to build friendships and social skills in college, you'll end
: up like that. It's not where I plan to be..
Well, if recanting my position can save even one person from listening to
NPR, then by all means...:)
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Carey Buchanan Cox
In article <5d0f8d$i...@solaria.cc.gatech.edu>,
>The fact that people are so socially inept that they don't even acknowledge
>the problem is the reason people say they come here just for academics.
First off, could someone post a good definition of "socially
inept"
Unable to manipulate a social situation for their advantage?
Unfriendly?
Does not work well with others?
Anything else?
>
>Most people aren't like the bulk of the population at Tech. (Thank god).
>Personally, I come for both things, and if everyone else did as well, then
>maybe people could function better in society.
Okay, provide a good example of someone "functioning well" in
society?
Is someone who truly loves all of humanity, but gets burned at the
stake functioning well?
How about someone who has no friends, enjoys solitude, but makes
more money than Croesus?
>
>I frequently wonder about what people will do when they get out of Tech. Sure,
>there are the success stories, but how many CS people willi be sitting in
>a dark room pumping out C code all day like a machine? Sadly, for lots of
>people at this school, that's a happy life. After all, what else is important
>if you're making money? (sarcasm)
Well, if your social environment is composed of people who sit in
dark rooms pumping out C code all day, then if you like doing that and do
it well, and get lots of money for it, I'm going to have to declare you a
social success.
You might be a complete social failure among the Mongol hordes, or
in Investment banking, but as long as you fit well with the people around
you, we can pin a star to your chest saying "Social Success"...for
whatever that's worth...
geoff menegay
Lightning Jack <gt7...@acmey.gatech.edu> wrote:
:: Let's decide which we will talk about, "well-rounded" (from your initial
:: post) or "social skills" (from your recent post).
:
:In my definition, a "well-rounded" individual possesses excellence both in
:academic and social skills.
In my definition, a "well-rounded" individual is fat.
geoff menegay
Jimmie McEver <gt8...@prism.gatech.edu> wrote:
:The actual line was something like "I came to Tech for a degree, not for
:social skills" -- the last part of that may not be verbatim, but the first
:(and relevant part) was...I just thought your choice of words was
:interesting -- no slam intended!
I would say that Tech gives you little more than a degree and some
resources. The one who gives you the education is yourself...
Jimmie McEver
gt7...@acmey.gatech.edu (Kevin Tuttle) writes:
>: It's interesting that you said you came to Tech for a degree and not an
>: education...that says a lot about our student body!
>Hmmm...I sense false quoting here.
The actual line was something like "I came to Tech for a degree, not for
social skills" -- the last part of that may not be verbatim, but the first
(and relevant part) was...I just thought your choice of words was
interesting -- no slam intended!
The Little Unicorn
Michael Lee Pollock wrote:
>
> : : And what's wrong with that? Not everyone has to have friends to be happy.
But it helps
> : No, I agree that he should do whatever makes him happy. But I'm saying
> : that assuming that most people _aren't_ like that, i.e. they want social
> : activities, then there should be a variety of them here.
>
> The fact that people are so socially inept that they don't even acknowledge
Tech is famous for that
> the problem is the reason people say they come here just for academics.
I cam here becuase I onlylive 30 minutes for here and it is the best
technical engineering school that was close by within the state of
Georgia. No, I didn't come for the guys. That's just an added bonus ;)
> Most people aren't like the bulk of the population at Tech. (Thank god).
> Personally, I come for both things, and if everyone else did as well, then
> maybe people could function better in society.
That's why we need more social activities. Here's to the revolution.
> I frequently wonder about what people will do when they get out of Tech. Sure,
> there are the success stories, but how many CS people willi be sitting in
What's wrong with CS?
> a dark room pumping out C code all day like a machine? Sadly, for lots of
> people at this school, that's a happy life. After all, what else is important
> if you're making money? (sarcasm)
Love, friends, happiness, and life.
Jason D. Summerfield
Michael Lee Pollock (mpol...@cc.gatech.edu) wrote:
: Personally, I come for both things, and if everyone else did as well, then
: maybe people could function better in society.
Bah. Society is overrated.
:I frequently wonder about what people will do when they get out of Tech. Sure,
:there are the success stories, but how many CS people willi be sitting in
:a dark room pumping out C code all day like a machine? Sadly, for lots of
:people at this school, that's a happy life. After all, what else is important
:if you're making money? (sarcasm)
Ahem...um, have you ever considered the joy of cranking out code solely
for the joy of cranking out code?
I think you're obsessed with money. :)
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Kevin Tuttle (gt7...@acmey.gatech.edu) wrote:
: Well, if recanting my position can save even one person from listening to
: NPR, then by all means...:)
Hey, step off the NPR. It rocks. :)
Lightning Jack
Jason D. Summerfield (gt7...@acmey.gatech.edu) wrote:
: Kevin Tuttle (gt7...@acmey.gatech.edu) wrote:
: : Well, if recanting my position can save even one person from listening to
: : NPR, then by all means...:)
: Hey, step off the NPR. It rocks. :)
I agree. I don't listen to it much, but I actually sat in on the show
What Do You Know?" one time... I liked it. Kevin is a very conservative
person and doesn't like stuff like NPR and public TV.
Kevin Tuttle
Lightning Jack (gt7...@acmex.gatech.edu) wrote:
: I agree. I don't listen to it much, but I actually sat in on the show
: What Do You Know?" one time... I liked it. Kevin is a very conservative
: person and doesn't like stuff like NPR and public TV.
i.e. I don't appreciate biased "news".
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geoff menegay
Kevin Tuttle <gt7...@acmex.gatech.edu> wrote:
:: I agree. I don't listen to it much, but I actually sat in on the show
:: What Do You Know?" one time... I liked it. Kevin is a very conservative
:: person and doesn't like stuff like NPR and public TV.
:
:i.e. I don't appreciate biased "news".
i always thought that public tv had very high quality news. why do you
call it biased, and where do you get your news from?
Lightning Jack
Kevin Tuttle (gt7...@acmex.gatech.edu) wrote:
: i.e. I don't appreciate biased "news".
As I've said before, it all depends on how you define "bias." And
"truth."
Dan "didn't want to get philosophical but just had to"
Kevin Tuttle
geoff menegay (gt7...@prism.gatech.edu) wrote:
: i always thought that public tv had very high quality news. why do you
: call it biased, and where do you get your news from?
I call it biased because it is. I have seen instances, the school lunch
mess to name one, and have many other in a few books lying around here
which cite infractions.
Where do I get my news from? Well, I glance through the Marietta Daily
Journal from time to time. I listen to WGST news -- they seem to be
rather imapartial. And I listen to Limbaugh when classes permit, as well
as reading both his and G. Gordon Liddy's newsletters. Of course it
should be pointed out that the former of the latter two claims that he is
not a news source, he does talk about current events.
marvin
On 2 Feb 1997 06:13:14 GMT, gt7...@acmex.gatech.edu (Lightning Jack)
wrote:
>Kevin Tuttle (gt7...@acmex.gatech.edu) wrote:
>: i.e. I don't appreciate biased "news".
>
>As I've said before, it all depends on how you define "bias." And
>"truth."
i have yet to see<or hear> a news shoe that wasn't biased....
just my $0.02<sleep....:) >
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Kevin Tuttle
James Baker (bea...@havoc.gtf.gatech.edu) wrote:
: news mag to read, I've always preferred Newsweek (liberal editorial
: slant) to Time (conservative ed. slant). Why? I guess 'cuz reading a
: disenting view forces my mind to work better, to examine more
: critically.
I used to be able to do that. I'd watch CBS news in the morning to laugh
at. But, since the 1996 elections, I just can't. After putting
that...individual back into office, I can't even stomach watching just to
mock. I glanced at the latest (I think -- hard to say) Newsweek the other
day at the dentist's. They had a whole article on Gore. There was a
picture of him a page and a half large. It doesn't take a genius to see
that they are already primping him for the 2000 elections. If anyone's
interested, it's the one with the P53 (alleged cancer-linked) gene as the
cover story. Actually that story's kind of funny too, trying to explain
the genetic "alphabet" of A's, C's, G's, and T's. Wow! :)
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ravaging tyrant." -Clinton Rossitier
geoff menegay
Kevin Tuttle <gt7...@acmey.gatech.edu> wrote:
:rather imapartial. And I listen to Limbaugh when classes permit, as well
yeah, he's not biased at all. he's not well-rounded, either.
geoff menegay
Kevin Tuttle <gt7...@acmey.gatech.edu> wrote:
:rather imapartial. And I listen to Limbaugh when classes permit, as well
R*sh is about as biased as he is well-rounded.
James Baker
: :i.e. I don't appreciate biased "news".
: i always thought that public tv had very high quality news. why do you
: call it biased, and where do you get your news from?
I disagree - (c) MacNamara
I'm fairly conservative, m'self . . . but when it comes to choosing a
news mag to read, I've always preferred Newsweek (liberal editorial
slant) to Time (conservative ed. slant). Why? I guess 'cuz reading a
disenting view forces my mind to work better, to examine more
critically.
In short, I welcome editorial biases. I just wish they were more evenly
distributed. :)
-- Beaker
/ _ _ / _ _ "Giving money and power to government
()(-(//((-/ ', is like giving whiskey and car keys
Jim Baker ___m_.._m___ to teen-age boys"
bea...@normnet.org -- P.J. O'Rourke
Scott J. Machovec
Kevin Tuttle (gt7...@acmey.gatech.edu) wrote:
: James Baker (bea...@havoc.gtf.gatech.edu) wrote:
: : news mag to read, I've always preferred Newsweek (liberal editorial
: : slant) to Time (conservative ed. slant). Why? I guess 'cuz reading a
: : disenting view forces my mind to work better, to examine more
: : critically.
: I used to be able to do that. I'd watch CBS news in the morning to laugh
: at. But, since the 1996 elections, I just can't. After putting
: that...individual back into office, I can't even stomach watching just to
: mock. I glanced at the latest (I think -- hard to say) Newsweek the other
Hating people will give you ulcers, raise your blood pressure, and probably
give you a heart attack before you are 40. Folks like Rush Limbaugh
(and Jessie Jackson) make their bread and milk money by getting people
fired up. Don't take either end of the spectrum too seriously. If anything,
they are sources of entertainment, not news. Treat them both as news at
your own risk.
Yes, the mass media is liberally-biased. But, I think they do a good job
of covering events. What I mean by this is that they don't selectively
cover news stories. They may run a pro-Clinton story about the
White House "WHO" database, but at least they are running a story about
it at all. In a lot of other countries, we would never here anything
about something like that.
It's up to us to be smart consumers of news. Read between the lines and
draw your own conclusion. "The truth is out there" ;-)
Scott "someone who has learned to not take politics too seriously" Machovec
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Woodruff School of Mechanical Engineering
Andy
geoff menegay (gt7...@prism.gatech.edu) wrote:
: Kevin Tuttle <gt7...@acmex.gatech.edu> wrote:
: :: Kevin is a very conservative
: :: person and doesn't like stuff like NPR and public TV.
: :
: i always thought that public tv had very high quality news. why do you
: call it biased, and where do you get your news from?
I hate it when I jump to conclusions and make unfounded attacks on people.
I hate it I hate it I hate it. But here I go:
I would be willing to bet some money that Kevin doesn't like NPR because
Newt doesn't like NPR. Kevin will, of course, deny this vehemently, but
I also predict that he has rarely if ever listened to NPR, and will not
come up with an example of their alleged bias. Since I am notoriously
naive and can not spot bias outside of the editorial page, I would like
someone to point it out to me. I hear news reporters try their damndest
to remain unbiased anywhere off of the editorial page. Something
about professional reputation. Maybe some classes back in college
taught them about it.
I listen to NPR for classical music ever once in a while, but I will admit
that they only played leftist liberal Mozart instead of his later
conservative works.
Neo-Republicans bore me to death. All of a sudden it became fashionable
to be conservative and listen to Limbaugh spoon feed you what you should
think. All of the "New Republicans" that I have met have the
following in common:
1) They think they are going to be the rich elite and are pissed that
the Democrats are taxing their money away to pay NPR, public housing,
and welfare. "Social programs ought to be cut!" they scream, all the
while whining that Democrats are cutting our military to the bone.
Old Repubs are the worst: They bitch about welfare while collecting
their Social Security.
2) They think that the Republicans are somehow different from the
Dems, and aren't interested only in power, influence, and re-election.
As if Newt is ever going to put your good ahead of his, or cut your
taxes as anything more than a re-election ploy.
--
I don't know why you wann' impress Christgau
ahh let that shit die and find out the new goal
kill yr. idols sonic death
it's the end of the world and confusion is sex
Who? Me?
geoff menegay (gt7...@prism.gatech.edu) wrote:
> Dominique <gt2...@prism.gatech.edu> wrote:
> :>Vegetables? What am I supposed to do with "some interestingly shaped
> :>vegetables"?
> :
> :well, do you any orifaces? :)
> You know, I was going to correct you on the lack of the word "have" in
> this sentence.
> But it's a whole hell of a lot funnier this way.
And it has the added bonus of being technically illegal in Georgia
if I catch the proper meaning. Makes that much more exciting (right,
like anybody is really worried at that point what is and is not illegal)
--
John Cronin phone: (404) 894-7563
Office of Information Technology Customer Support Center 0710
Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332
Internet: john....@oit.gatech.edu
Who? Me?
Kevin Tuttle (gt7...@acmey.gatech.edu) wrote:
> The Little Unicorn (gt6...@prism.gatech.edu) wrote:
> : I have the same sentiments, however, what good is a degree if you don't
> : have social skills?
> Well, it all depends on your major, I suppose. I would think an LCC major
> would need vast social skills just to get a job :) while a CS major
> probably would not need quite as much. Perhaps applicable schools should
> have classes towards those ends and thereby not blindly use the money for
> "everyone" since not everyone needs or wants the "help".
Being the definition of a non-traditional student, I can tell you that
developing some social skills is a definite plus. Yeah, maybe a CS major
doesn't need social skills to do the job (I would disagree - or at least
say social skills are needed to do a GOOD job), but they sure come in handy
in OBTAINING a job. Being a person that nobody knows or nobody likes has
a definite downside, and I would just have to say that anybody who argues
to the contrary is delusional (and maybe lacking social skills? ;)
Kevin Tuttle
Scott J. Machovec (sma...@ulc199.residence.gatech.edu) wrote:
: Hating people will give you ulcers, raise your blood pressure, and probably
: give you a heart attack before you are 40.
I agree. That's one of the reasons I try not to hate anyone -- though
some make it harder than others. :)
: Folks like Rush Limbaugh
: (and Jessie Jackson) make their bread and milk money by getting people
: fired up.
Ahhhh...ehhhh...I'm not so sure. Rush merely expresses his opinions, if
people get fired up because of it, that's just a consequence of their
beliefs.
: Don't take either end of the spectrum too seriously. If anything,
: they are sources of entertainment, not news. Treat them both as news at
: your own risk.
True.
: Yes, the mass media is liberally-biased. But, I think they do a good job
: of covering events. What I mean by this is that they don't selectively
: cover news stories. They may run a pro-Clinton story about the
: White House "WHO" database, but at least they are running a story about
: it at all. In a lot of other countries, we would never here anything
: about something like that.
Yes, but we are supposed to be above the standards of other countries. It
is little comfort that we have attained that. We used to have a mostly
unbiased media. This sounds, if you'll forgive me, a little to defeatist
for my tastes.
--
"Nothing is simpler than to kill a man; the difficulties arise in
attempting to avoid the consequences." -Nero Wolfe: _Too Many Cooks_ -Rex
Stout
Kevin Tuttle
Who? Me? (cco...@acmez.gatech.edu) wrote:
: Being the definition of a non-traditional student, I can tell you that
: developing some social skills is a definite plus. Yeah, maybe a CS major
: doesn't need social skills to do the job (I would disagree - or at least
: say social skills are needed to do a GOOD job), but they sure come in handy
: in OBTAINING a job. Being a person that nobody knows or nobody likes has
: a definite downside, and I would just have to say that anybody who argues
: to the contrary is delusional (and maybe lacking social skills? ;)
Certainly. Unless you plan to live in a cave some social skills are
required to interact with society. But I was just saying that different
majors require different amounts of this training and perhaps we should
notice that.
--
"He hurts the good who spares the bad." -Uncited
Kevin Tuttle
Andy (an...@havoc.gtf.gatech.edu) wrote:
: I hate it when I jump to conclusions and make unfounded attacks on people.
: I hate it I hate it I hate it. But here I go:
: I would be willing to bet some money that Kevin doesn't like NPR because
: Newt doesn't like NPR.
I didn't even know Newt didn't like NPR. I'm not surprised, but I didn't
know it.
: Kevin will, of course, deny this vehemently, but
: I also predict that he has rarely if ever listened to NPR, and will not
: come up with an example of their alleged bias.
You are incorrect. I used to listen to NPR every day. I like the
classical music they play and I only wish I could find another radio
station that played it. Unfortunately, they interrupted it with drivel
(read news). I cannot produce an example because I didn't write it down,
but if you like I'll listen to it some time and come up with one for you.
With all the indictments, and Gephardt wanting to amend the 1st amendment,
it shouldn't be hard.
: I listen to NPR for classical music ever once in a while, but I will admit
: that they only played leftist liberal Mozart instead of his later
: conservative works.
Either this is a joke or you have a better ear than I. :)
: Neo-Republicans bore me to death. All of a sudden it became fashionable
: to be conservative and listen to Limbaugh spoon feed you what you should
: think.
I've been conservative before then, my friend. And Limbaugh hardly
spoon-feeds anyone. Have you ever listened to his show? I won't jump to
any conclusions about this.
: All of the "New Republicans" that I have met have the
: following in common:
: 1) They think they are going to be the rich elite and are pissed that
: the Democrats are taxing their money away to pay NPR, public housing,
: and welfare. "Social programs ought to be cut!" they scream, all the
: while whining that Democrats are cutting our military to the bone.
: Old Repubs are the worst: They bitch about welfare while collecting
: their Social Security.
: 2) They think that the Republicans are somehow different from the
: Dems, and aren't interested only in power, influence, and re-election.
: As if Newt is ever going to put your good ahead of his, or cut your
: taxes as anything more than a re-election ploy.
I would say you've met some poor examples of our ideology for you, or
they, are incorrect.
: I don't know why you wann' impress Christgau
: ahh let that shit die and find out the new goal
: kill yr. idols sonic death
: it's the end of the world and confusion is sex
Uh-huh.
--
"The language of truth is simple." -Seneca
Who? Me?
Kevin Tuttle (gt7...@acmey.gatech.edu) wrote:
> Scott J. Machovec (sma...@ulc199.residence.gatech.edu) wrote:
> : Folks like Rush Limbaugh
> : (and Jessie Jackson) make their bread and milk money by getting people
> : fired up.
> Ahhhh...ehhhh...I'm not so sure. Rush merely expresses his opinions, if
> people get fired up because of it, that's just a consequence of their
> beliefs.
Oh please! Rush makes his living off of "firing people up". If he
didn't do this, nobody would even know who he is. If you don't think
this master of self promotion doesn't go out of his way to make people
notice him (love or hate) you are deluded.
Who? Me?
Kevin Tuttle (gt7...@acmey.gatech.edu) wrote:
> geoff menegay (gt7...@prism.gatech.edu) wrote:
> : R*sh is about as biased as he is well-rounded.
> A fat joke. Hardly original -- or flattering to you.
> But, at least he admits his bias and doesn't allow it to affect his
> telling the truth.
Rush tells as many lies as anybody I have ever heard on a long running
show (ie outside of some kind of sleazy talk show like Jerry Springer).
Lightning Jack
Kevin Tuttle (gt7...@acmey.gatech.edu) wrote:
: But, at least he admits his bias and doesn't allow it to affect his
: telling the truth.
Ummm... Kevin? You just contradicted yourself bigtime. He admits his
bias in order to justify what he considers to be "truth," although I don't
think it's a particularly valid version of such. I can provide a URL for
you if you want some documentation about Limbaugh's inaccuracies.
Dan
Lightning Jack
Kevin Tuttle (gt7...@acmey.gatech.edu) wrote:
: Certainly. Unless you plan to live in a cave some social skills are
: required to interact with society. But I was just saying that different
: majors require different amounts of this training and perhaps we should
: notice that.
True. But IMO it's not the job of the school to teach you social skills.
I feel that it's more of a personal choice as to the type and amount of
social interaction you participate in (and thus build skills at.) Thus,
the whole idea of Screw Yer Roommate.. an opportunity for those who choose
to participate, and nothing more.
geoff menegay
Kevin Tuttle <gt7...@acmey.gatech.edu> wrote:
:geoff menegay (gt7...@prism.gatech.edu) wrote:
:: R*sh is about as biased as he is well-rounded.
:
:A fat joke. Hardly original -- or flattering to you.
A character attack. Hardly original -- or flattering to you.
(FYI, it was more of a statement of fact than a joke.)
:But, at least he admits his bias and doesn't allow it to affect his
:telling the truth.
Yeah, whatever. If you want to try and discuss this for real you can mail me.
(And if you want to know how it turns out, I win.)
Who? Me?
Hope you're not a Rush fan - it ain't exactly news, and he doesn't claim
to be unbiased, but he tells as many lies as any liberal. FYI, I think
I am probably more "conservative" than most people, and it is not the
fact that Rush is conservative that bothers me.
> As I've said before, it all depends on how you define "bias." And
> "truth."
Yeah, that's the heart of the matter. NPR is too liberal for me, but
I don't find them as unpalatable as Rush.
Jimmie McEver
cco...@acmez.gatech.edu (Who? Me?) writes:
>Rush tells as many lies as anybody I have ever heard on a long running
>show
More, actually...
(ie outside of some kind of sleazy talk show like Jerry Springer).
Just because Rush wears a good suit and doesn't interview "Men Who Married
Their Sisters" doesn't mean that he doesn't have a sleazy show... :-)
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Kevin Tuttle
: Ummm... Kevin? You just contradicted yourself bigtime. He admits his
: bias in order to justify what he considers to be "truth," although I don't
: think it's a particularly valid version of such. I can provide a URL for
: you if you want some documentation about Limbaugh's inaccuracies.
Incorrect. He is biased, yet reports the truth -- a skill journalists
like Cronkite used to have.
The URL...FAIR? I've seen it. I also saw Limbaugh's responses. I think
he defended himself admirably, especially given their rudeness towards
him.
--
"Entropy isn't what it used to be." -Unknown
Dawn M. Smith
In article <5d5mls$3...@catapult.gatech.edu>,
Kevin Tuttle <gt7...@acmex.gatech.edu> wrote:
>Evidently your mind is too closed to continue the discussion. If you are
>willing to consider both sides, mail me.
AS IF???????
You should know about closed minds. You appear to be telling
everyone that they are wrong about Rush, yet the documentation exists
stating how Rush is "Entertainment" and not "Responsible Journalism."
Get a grip!!! If Rush is so Honest and great as you make him out to
be, then why did Letterman have to clear out the audience in order for
Rush to continue his appearance on the show?
And give me one - ONLY ONE - example where Rush has reported
a newsworthy item in a factual way.
To me, Rush is in the same category as Howard Sterns. Opposite
ends of the spectrum, but same basic personality!!!
Flame Away!!!
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you do it's still the same thing.' But it's not the world that I am
changing. I do this so the world will know it will not change me."
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Kay
Dawn M. Smith (da...@cc.gatech.edu) wrote:
: In article <5d5mls$3...@catapult.gatech.edu>,
: Kevin Tuttle <gt7...@acmex.gatech.edu> wrote:
: >Evidently your mind is too closed to continue the discussion. If you are
: >willing to consider both sides, mail me.
: AS IF???????
: You should know about closed minds. You appear to be telling
: everyone that they are wrong about Rush, yet the documentation exists
: stating how Rush is "Entertainment" and not "Responsible Journalism."
: Get a grip!!! If Rush is so Honest and great as you make him out to
: be, then why did Letterman have to clear out the audience in order for
: Rush to continue his appearance on the show?
: And give me one - ONLY ONE - example where Rush has reported
: a newsworthy item in a factual way.
: To me, Rush is in the same category as Howard Sterns. Opposite
: ends of the spectrum, but same basic personality!!!
Yeah, but Stern kicks ass! He's an equal-oportunity offender. He
even makes fun of himself. It's great!
: Flame Away!!!
geoff menegay
Kay <ti...@havoc.gtf.gatech.edu> wrote:
:: Oh please! Rush makes his living off of "firing people up". If he
:: didn't do this, nobody would even know who he is. If you don't think
:: this master of self promotion doesn't go out of his way to make people
:: notice him (love or hate) you are deluded.
:
:Of course he does. And he'll be the first one to say that he says what he
:says to get ratings. He doesn't actually believe everything he says, he
:does it for shock value and ratings. And he pretty much scoffs at those
:who take his word as Bible truth...
Oh my god, then he's just EVIL! So he tells lies, which he knows to be
lies, so that he can shock the ditto-heads he has no respect for into
worshiping him more, solely for bringing himself more power. Wow.
And I used to think I was evil because I wanted to take over the world
by buying all the politicians.
Kevin Tuttle
Lightning Jack (gt7...@acmex.gatech.edu) wrote:
: Kevin Tuttle (gt7...@acmey.gatech.edu) wrote:
: True. But IMO it's not the job of the school to teach you social skills.
: I feel that it's more of a personal choice as to the type and amount of
: social interaction you participate in (and thus build skills at.) Thus,
: the whole idea of Screw Yer Roommate.. an opportunity for those who choose
: to participate, and nothing more.
Naturally. However, it is more complicated than being simply a personal
choice. If I were living on campus, I would have paid money to support
that, yet had no intention of participating. I wouldn't mind if it
stopped there, but it doesn't. For a parallel, look at the $3.146 million
project of fixing the SAC fields. I have little intention of using them,
yet my activity fee is being used for it. I don't think the powers that
be realize that not all students share the same interests. I know you're
saying, "of course they do". But do they? How much of the activity fee
is being paid to upgrade our computer labs? Do you realize how many
Peniums could be purchased with over $3M @ about $3000 a piece? So what's
the solution? Require everyone to purchase their own computer -- what a
wonderful solution.
--
"...of course out in the country like that something might as well be
growing or what would you do with all the space..." -Archie Goodwin: _Too
Many Cooks_ - Rex Stout
Kevin Tuttle
geoff menegay (gt7...@prism.gatech.edu) wrote:
: Oh my god, then he's just EVIL! So he tells lies, which he knows to be
: lies,
Incorrect. He does not.
: so that he can shock the ditto-heads he has no respect for
Incorrect once more. He does.
: into worshiping him more, solely for bringing himself more power.
More ratings, actually, but I suppose they go hand-in-hand.
--
"He is richest who is content with the least, for content is the wealth of
nature." -Socrates
Kevin Tuttle
geoff menegay (gt7...@prism.gatech.edu) wrote:
: Sigh. I said that Rush was as biased as his mass, you said it was a fat
: joke, i said it was more of a statement of fact than a joke. Get it
: now?
I meant when did I make a character attack?
: My mind is made up, but I'm not closed minded. I mailed you saying I'm
: giving R*sh a second chance. I'll be happy to re-evaluate him.
Fair enough.
--
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of the divine providence, we mutually pledge to each other, our lives, our
fortunes, and our sacred honor." -Declaration of Independence
geoff menegay
Kevin Tuttle <gt7...@acmex.gatech.edu> wrote:
:: A character attack. Hardly original -- or flattering to you.
:: (FYI, it was more of a statement of fact than a joke.)
:
:Huh?
Sigh. I said that Rush was as biased as his mass, you said it was a fat
joke, i said it was more of a statement of fact than a joke. Get it
now?
:: Yeah, whatever. If you want to try and discuss this for real you can mail me.
:Evidently your mind is too closed to continue the discussion. If you are
:willing to consider both sides, mail me.
My mind is made up, but I'm not closed minded. I mailed you saying I'm
giving R*sh a second chance. I'll be happy to re-evaluate him.
Timothy Ronald Volk
:> Why can't SAC charge a membership fee to those who actually use the
:> facilities? What percentage of the student body use SAC on a regular
:> basis, say once a week?
>For the same reason that the student medical fee is the same for all
>students, no matter what your medical insurance covers, nor how many times
>you use the facilities and resources of the Student Health Center. As far
>as I can tell, it was decided some time ago that a certain level of
>facilities were necessary and in order to provide that level of service
>the cost had to be spread over the entire student populace, regardless of
>how each particular individual would be likely to use it.
This is not a very good argument. While it can be argued (weakly) that
the health center is necessary to further education by attending to the
ailments which prevent students from attending classes, etc., there is
no educational necessity whatsoever (of which I know) for SAC or its
fields.
If the level of service necessary to justify the existence of SAC is so
great, then it should be "pay as you go".
>The underlying point is that it is there and has a decent chance of being
>useful to you,should you choose to use it.
SAC has no chance of being useful to me. I live off campus, and the time
I spend on campus is devoted to my educational pursuits. Further, if I
did choose to use the facilities, I would rather pay at that time or buy
a membership.
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USMC Vet Rock Musician Objectivist | Future Ga Tech grad, or bust...
Tigress
In article <5d68qa$q...@acmez.gatech.edu>,
Timothy Ronald Volk <gt2...@prism.gatech.edu> wrote:
>SAC has no chance of being useful to me. I live off campus, and the time
>I spend on campus is devoted to my educational pursuits. Further, if I
>did choose to use the facilities, I would rather pay at that time or buy
>a membership.
Well, for some odd reason I don't mind paying the fee and having it open
for all. And no, I don't use SAC. In fact, I have a membership at
Australian Bodyworks cause being slightly short for a female (I am not
super short) I don't fit SAC's _female_ wieght machines and I fit AB's
wieght machines easily. Sheesh, that is my complaint about SAC. They have
a female side and it is so obvious it is just out of date wieght machines
that were originally for males (AB uses machines that have a wide range
of positions for short and tall).
Tigress
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Kevin Tuttle
A fat joke. Hardly original -- or flattering to you.
But, at least he admits his bias and doesn't allow it to affect his
telling the truth.
--
"A great memory does not make a mind, anymore than a dictionary is a piece
of literature." -John Henry Newman
Kevin Tuttle
: Oh please! Rush makes his living off of "firing people up". If he
: didn't do this, nobody would even know who he is. If you don't think
: this master of self promotion doesn't go out of his way to make people
: notice him (love or hate) you are deluded.
I am not deluded, yet I still believe this. What a wacky paradox.
--
"For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son." - John
3:16
Kevin Tuttle
Kay (ti...@havoc.gtf.gatech.edu) wrote:
: Of course he does. And he'll be the first one to say that he says what he
: says to get ratings. He doesn't actually believe everything he says, he
: does it for shock value and ratings. And he pretty much scoffs at those
: who take his word as Bible truth...
You are mistaken. He believes everything he says, and has said so.
--
Albert: Agent Cooper, I am thrilled to pieces that the Dharma came to
King Hohoho, I really am, but right now I am trying hard to focus
on the more immediate problems of our own century, right here in
Twin Peaks.
Cooper: Albert, you'd be surprised at the connections between the two.
Albert: Color me amazed.
-Twin Peaks
Kay
: > : Folks like Rush Limbaugh
: > : (and Jessie Jackson) make their bread and milk money by getting people
: > : fired up.
: > Ahhhh...ehhhh...I'm not so sure. Rush merely expresses his opinions, if
: > people get fired up because of it, that's just a consequence of their
: > beliefs.
: Oh please! Rush makes his living off of "firing people up". If he
: didn't do this, nobody would even know who he is. If you don't think
: this master of self promotion doesn't go out of his way to make people
: notice him (love or hate) you are deluded.
Of course he does. And he'll be the first one to say that he says what he
says to get ratings. He doesn't actually believe everything he says, he
does it for shock value and ratings. And he pretty much scoffs at those
who take his word as Bible truth...
--- K
: --
Kevin Tuttle
Who? Me? (cco...@acmez.gatech.edu) wrote:
: Rush tells as many lies as anybody I have ever heard on a long running
: show (ie outside of some kind of sleazy talk show like Jerry Springer).
Please find an example for me.
--
"Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored." -Aldous Huxley
Kevin Tuttle
geoff menegay (gt7...@prism.gatech.edu) wrote:
: A character attack. Hardly original -- or flattering to you.
Huh?
: Yeah, whatever. If you want to try and discuss this for real you can mail me.
Evidently your mind is too closed to continue the discussion. If you are
willing to consider both sides, mail me.
: (And if you want to know how it turns out, I win.)
[yawn]
--
"But Hillary says that they don't have a clue/But if they catch me, buddy,
she's goin' down too!" -Paul Shanklin ("Whitewater Blues")
Andy Slaughter
I haven't read this whole thread, so I'm not gonna flame anybody, but Rush
Limbaugh is awesome. His opinions are very well thought-out and logical. I
agree with him almost all of the time. Quite often, Rush brings to the air
a very important story that other members of the media have chosen to
bury, if even reported, in their own publications.
Also, I believe everyone shold listen to people from all parts of the
spectrum. These people with the "I think, therefore I don't listen to
Rush" stickers are just proving their own closed-mindedness.
The Other Andy
--
Andy R. Slaughter |Try to push me 'round
Georgia Institute of Technology |the world some more,
E-mail: gt4...@prism.gatech.edu |And make me live in fear,
Go Steelers! |I bare all that I am made of now,
1995 AFC Champions! |Attractive I don't care.
-Dream Theater
"Caught in a Web"
geoff menegay
Kevin Tuttle <gt7...@acmex.gatech.edu> wrote:
:: Sigh. I said that Rush was as biased as his mass, you said it was a fat
:: joke, i said it was more of a statement of fact than a joke. Get it
:: now?
:
:I meant when did I make a character attack?
You said my joke was unoriginal and unflattering toward me. Granted,
it's a mild character attack (especially compared to what I'm used to :)
Kevin Tuttle
In article <5d5n0c$8...@felix.cc.gatech.edu> you wrote:
: You should know about closed minds. You appear to be telling
: everyone that they are wrong about Rush, yet the documentation exists
: stating how Rush is "Entertainment" and not "Responsible Journalism."
Indeed. In fact I said it earlier in the thread.
: Get a grip!!! If Rush is so Honest and great as you make him out to
: be, then why did Letterman have to clear out the audience in order for
: Rush to continue his appearance on the show?
Probably a lot of violent left-wing extremists. who know no other way of
expressing themselves.
: And give me one - ONLY ONE - example where Rush has reported
: a newsworthy item in a factual way.
That's not why he's there, but I'll keep my ears open for you next time I
listen to him.
: To me, Rush is in the same category as Howard Sterns. Opposite
: ends of the spectrum, but same basic personality!!!
Perhaps. But only if Stern actually believe what he says. Plus, Stern
likes to focus on shocking people and admits to it, Rush does neither.
--
"Believe and act as if it were impossible to fail." -Kettering
Timothy Ronald Volk
In article <5d62i9$6...@catapult.gatech.edu>,
Kevin Tuttle <gt7...@acmez.gatech.edu> wrote:
>: But I hope you'll agree that spreading the cost equally to every student,
>: and giving every student the same _opportunity_ to use the facilities is
>: the most egalitarian method of providing said facilities to the general
>: student population.
>
>I unqualifiably disagree. It's an "activity fee". Believe me, not
>everyone's favorite activity is going ot SAC. Some of us like to veg in
>front of a computer, and our desires should be represented in that.
I agree with Kevin on this. If I have to pay toward those fields, I would
rather see them torn up and paved into parking lots.
Why can't SAC charge a membership fee to those who actually use the
facilities? What percentage of the student body use SAC on a regular
basis, say once a week?
--
geoff menegay
Kevin Tuttle <gt7...@acmez.gatech.edu> wrote:
:Obviously truth cannot be biased because there is only one truth.
:However, one can have biases, yet still tell the truth so long as they do
:not let it influence what they are saying. For instance, I can say that
:Nixon did a bad thing. I say this even though I have conservative
:leanings, yet it is the truth. That's a bad example because it involves
:morality -- a subjective thing to too many people, but you get the idea.
This is all true, ideally. Yet people can still tell the truth, but
let their biases frame it in such a way to give it the sort of spin they
want. I'm too tired to give an example.
Lightning Jack
Kevin Tuttle (gt7...@acmex.gatech.edu) wrote:
: How much of the activity fee
: is being paid to upgrade our computer labs?
Not a penny, and rightfully so. The activity fee revenue goes to things
like SAC, and other athletic-type facilities for the campus. It doesn't
matter if you personally don't plan on using them, that's your choice.
But I hope you'll agree that spreading the cost equally to every student,
and giving every student the same _opportunity_ to use the facilities is
the most egalitarian method of providing said facilities to the general
student population.
Dan
Lightning Jack
Kevin Tuttle (gt7...@acmex.gatech.edu) wrote:
: : And give me one - ONLY ONE - example where Rush has reported
: : a newsworthy item in a factual way.
: That's not why he's there...
You just contradicted yourself again. You said in an earlier post that
Rush reports only the truth, but here you say that Rush is not there to
report news items in a factual way. Facts are the closest thing to truth
that I know of...
Lightning Jack
Kevin Tuttle (gt7...@acmex.gatech.edu) wrote:
: The URL...FAIR? I've seen it. I also saw Limbaugh's responses. I think
: he defended himself admirably, especially given their rudeness towards
: him.
The only defense I saw was to repeat what he originally stated. The
thing about FAIR (yes, that was what i was referring to) is that they have
links to actual statistical data which prove that Rush was not telling the
truth.
Kevin Tuttle
Lightning Jack (gt7...@acmex.gatech.edu) wrote:
: Not a penny, and rightfully so. The activity fee revenue goes to things
: like SAC, and other athletic-type facilities for the campus. It doesn't
: matter if you personally don't plan on using them, that's your choice.
: But I hope you'll agree that spreading the cost equally to every student,
: and giving every student the same _opportunity_ to use the facilities is
: the most egalitarian method of providing said facilities to the general
: student population.
I unqualifiably disagree. It's an "activity fee". Believe me, not
everyone's favorite activity is going ot SAC. Some of us like to veg in
front of a computer, and our desires should be represented in that.
--
"The more enemies a man of peace has, the more he knows he has chosen the
correct path" -David Carradine ("Kung Fu: TLC"--"Phoenix")
Kevin Tuttle
Lightning Jack (gt7...@acmex.gatech.edu) wrote:
: The only defense I saw was to repeat what he originally stated. The
: thing about FAIR (yes, that was what i was referring to) is that they have
: links to actual statistical data which prove that Rush was not telling the
: truth.
I believe they refer to one instance where he quotes someone who got
information wrong, and tried to use that against him. But I saw no
statistical data that Rush didn't successfully dispute last time I was on.
--
"Every man has a coward and hero in his soul." -Carlyle
Kevin Tuttle
Lightning Jack (gt7...@acmex.gatech.edu) wrote:
: Kevin Tuttle (gt7...@acmex.gatech.edu) wrote:
: : : And give me one - ONLY ONE - example where Rush has reported
: : : a newsworthy item in a factual way.
: : That's not why he's there...
: You just contradicted yourself again. You said in an earlier post that
: Rush reports only the truth, but here you say that Rush is not there to
: report news items in a factual way. Facts are the closest thing to truth
: that I know of...
Tsk, tsk, Dan. You're making it way too easy.
I did not contradict myself. Yes, he tells the truth, but he is not there
to report the news (therby conveying newsworthy items as the original post
said).
--
"Raise the minimum wage and help job creating small businesses prosper."
-DNC newsletter on their platform
Lightning Jack
Timothy Ronald Volk (gt2...@prism.gatech.edu) wrote:
: Why can't SAC charge a membership fee to those who actually use the
: facilities? What percentage of the student body use SAC on a regular
: basis, say once a week?
For the same reason that the student medical fee is the same for all
students, no matter what your medical insurance covers, nor how many times
you use the facilities and resources of the Student Health Center. As far
as I can tell, it was decided some time ago that a certain level of
facilities were necessary and in order to provide that level of service
the cost had to be spread over the entire student populace, regardless of
how each particular individual would be likely to use it. The underlying
point is that it is there and has a decent chance of being useful to you,
should you choose to use it.
My parents' medical and dental insurance policy covers me much better than
the Health Center does, but that's not the point. I pay the health fee
(and all the other fees) just like everyone else, and I have the same
opportunity to use the resources provided there. BTW, I've only been to
SAC twice in my entire time here (this is my 5th quarter.)
James Baker
Can I weigh in here?
I had no idea about the Letterman thing, but if it's true it puts me in
mind of the way Clarence Thomas has been treated since his appointment
to the court, that is, most of his speaking engagements get drowned out
by people so close-minded that they endeavor to silence anyone who
disagrees with them.
This behavior, to me, is far more unsettling than the existence of an
admittedly biased talk show host . . . say what you want, but I know of
no instance in which the Christian Coalition has actively campaigned to
silence a speaking engargement by a noted liberal speaker. The same
cannot be said for the NAACP or the astoundingly misnamed FAIR. It seems to
me to be an exclusively liberal tactic, and a particularly onerous one.
-- Beaker
/ _ _ / _ _ "Giving money and power to government
()(-(//((-/ ', is like giving whiskey and car keys
Jim Baker ___m_.._m___ to teen-age boys"
bea...@normnet.org -P.J. O'Rourke
Lightning Jack
Kevin Tuttle (gt7...@acmez.gatech.edu) wrote:
: : You just contradicted yourself again. You said in an earlier post that
: : Rush reports only the truth, but here you say that Rush is not there to
: : report news items in a factual way. Facts are the closest thing to truth
: : that I know of...
: I did not contradict myself. Yes, he tells the truth, but he is not there
: to report the news (therby conveying newsworthy items as the original post
: said).
You did indeed contradict yourself. I see no distinction between facts in
a "newsworthy item" and facts in anything else. But even if there were
such a distinction, you said that Rush reports only the truth, and at the
same time you admit that Rush is biased. I've heard you argue many times
that truth must have no bias. And I agree, real "truth" should not and
cannot be biased. This is the contradiction to which I was referring.
Kevin Tuttle
Lightning Jack (gt7...@acmex.gatech.edu) wrote:
: You did indeed contradict yourself. I see no distinction between facts in
: a "newsworthy item" and facts in anything else.
[yawn] The argument was about whether or not Rush is, or should be used
as, a replacement for news. I said that although he reports the truth as
he knows it in everything he says, he'd be the first to say that he is
primarily for entertainment and not for news. This is not a contradiction
as they are completely different issues.
: But even if there were
: such a distinction, you said that Rush reports only the truth, and at the
: same time you admit that Rush is biased. I've heard you argue many times
: that truth must have no bias. And I agree, real "truth" should not and
: cannot be biased. This is the contradiction to which I was referring.
I admit that he has biases. So do I. So, I imagine, do all of us.
However, I can still tell the truth, so can you (sometimes :) ). Bias
can impair one's ability to see what the truth is, but if you work at it,
as I'm sure Rush has, you can get past it. For example, Walter Cronkite,
a decent journalist -- probably the last, for now -- was a liberal.
However, it did not influence his reporting ability, nor what he said on
the air.
Obviously truth cannot be biased because there is only one truth.
However, one can have biases, yet still tell the truth so long as they do
not let it influence what they are saying. For instance, I can say that
Nixon did a bad thing. I say this even though I have conservative
leanings, yet it is the truth. That's a bad example because it involves
morality -- a subjective thing to too many people, but you get the idea.
--
"Religion is a necessary, an indispensible element in any great human
character. There is no living without it. Religion is the tie that
connects man to his Creator, and holds him to his throne." -Daniel Webster
Lightning Jack
Kevin Tuttle (gt7...@acmez.gatech.edu) wrote:
: [yawn] The argument was about whether or not Rush is, or should be used
: as, a replacement for news. I said that although he reports the truth as
: he knows it in everything he says, he'd be the first to say that he is
: primarily for entertainment and not for news. This is not a contradiction
: as they are completely different issues.
Facts are facts no matter who is reporting them. If Limbaugh is biased
then he is not reporting facts. However, you freely admit to his bias.
Nothing wrong with that, in itself. You have also said more than once
that his purpose is to entertain, not report facts. Also nothing wrong
with this, in itself. But these two premises lead me to the conclusion
that he purposely entertains, without much regard to facts. Again,
nothing inherently wrong. But time after time, you and others rely on
Rush for reporting "the truth" and I simply find that amusing considering
that you yourself admitted that he is an entertainer and not a credible
news source.
: However, I can still tell the truth, so can you (sometimes :) ).
Ahhh.. _now_ who's making personal attacks? :)
: Obviously truth cannot be biased because there is only one truth.
: However, one can have biases, yet still tell the truth so long as they do
: not let it influence what they are saying.
I agree completely. And I contend that you have just proved my point,
that Rush is _not_ a credible source for news, because he _does_ let his
biases affect the content and style of his reporting.
Lightning Jack
: no educational necessity whatsoever (of which I know) for SAC or its
: fields.
I think there are some PE classes that use those facilities, as well as
many intramural clubs..
: If the level of service necessary to justify the existence of SAC is so
: great, then it should be "pay as you go".
I'm sure there is a sizable group of people who share that view. I
personally don't, I feel that it's more of a responsibility of GT to
provide the opportunity to all, regardless of whether people personally
choose not to use said opportunity.
: SAC has no chance of being useful to me. I live off campus, and the time
: I spend on campus is devoted to my educational pursuits. Further, if I
: did choose to use the facilities, I would rather pay at that time or buy
: a membership.
Umm... I'm sorry to hear that? If you choose to devote the entirety of
your time on campus to academic pursuits, so be it and more power to you.
But I would venture that there are a lot of people who would complain much
more bitterly than you are now, if SAC didn't exist and they were forced
to contract with private health clubs if they wanted the facilities. As
above, I feel that it's the responsibility of GT to provide those
facilities.. how those are funded is another debate entirely. And as I
said before, I think it's fairer to spread the burden over the student
body equally, rather than a pay-as-you-go setup. If the people who use
SAC on a regular basis were the only ones paying for it, I daresay the
cost would be far greater than that of Sportslife or ABW or whatever.
Jacob J. Sherwood
I'm sorry to hear that SAC isn't of use to some of you. Well...tough
luck!! Even if you live off campus, you could still workout there. I
have seen money wasted on athletic pursuits, but IMHO SAC is not a waste.
It holds *academic* benefits for students who use it. Exercise is a great
way to relieve stress. It also can help you concentrate better when you
do study. All this while promoting physical well-being. And other than
running, or bicycling, or playing b-ball at peters part...one's choices
for physical activities are fairly limited (oh, i forgot about the weight
stations inside most of the dorms). I can dig how some people would not
be at all interested in running, weight-lifting, basketball, or bicycling
as a from of exercise...i personally enjoy all of the above. And I think
SAC is generally cool.
If you're so upset that *your* money is being wasted on SAC...then it's
your own fault for not using it...
jacob sherwood
Who? Me?
Lightning Jack (gt7...@acmex.gatech.edu) wrote:
> Timothy Ronald Volk (gt2...@prism.gatech.edu) wrote:
> : there is
> : no educational necessity whatsoever (of which I know) for SAC or its
> : fields.
> : If the level of service necessary to justify the existence of SAC is so
> : great, then it should be "pay as you go".
> I'm sure there is a sizable group of people who share that view. I
> personally don't, I feel that it's more of a responsibility of GT to
> provide the opportunity to all, regardless of whether people personally
> choose not to use said opportunity.
I would really like to see a vote on this, even though I know we won't.
We're screwed regardless.
Why should Tech have a responsibility to provide a non-essential
opportunity to all that many of "all" don't want? That's bloody
pointless. I have been here a long time (let's not get into this
again), I live near campus, and I have used SAC less than 10 times
(MUCH LESS) in 10 years. I bet if you took a vote, it would be
close on whether to keep SAC as it is, or pave it and make it a
parking lot. I don't drive either, so it matters not to me either
way. But I would bet that a lot of people would rather be offered
an opportunity to park closer to their classes than to use the
facilities at SAC.
> : SAC has no chance of being useful to me. I live off campus, and the time
> : I spend on campus is devoted to my educational pursuits. Further, if I
> : did choose to use the facilities, I would rather pay at that time or buy
> : a membership.
> Umm... I'm sorry to hear that? If you choose to devote the entirety of
> your time on campus to academic pursuits, so be it and more power to you.
> But I would venture that there are a lot of people who would complain much
> more bitterly than you are now, if SAC didn't exist and they were forced
> to contract with private health clubs if they wanted the facilities. As
> above, I feel that it's the responsibility of GT to provide those
> facilities.. how those are funded is another debate entirely. And as I
> said before, I think it's fairer to spread the burden over the student
> body equally, rather than a pay-as-you-go setup.
How on earth can it be fairer to make people pay for something that
they don't want to use than to make those who use it pay for it? I
have NEVER understood this concept. I just can't agree with it. Maybe
we should make EVERYBODY pay for an opportunity for me to learn to
fly a plane at <insert current activity fee here> or maybe to go skydiving
or something. There are plenty of people who are afraid of heights, get
motion sickness, or just plain have no interest. Should they be forced
to pay so that I (and others - I'm sure we could drum up plenty of interest)
could fly for no more than it costs to go to SAC. Why should that
opportunity not be provided to all? (I can tell you why - it's expensive,
non-essential, and not everybody wants to do it - same with SAC)
>If the people who use
> SAC on a regular basis were the only ones paying for it, I daresay the
> cost would be far greater than that of Sportslife or ABW or whatever.
So? What does that have to do with anything?
Who? Me?
Andy Slaughter (gt4...@acmex.gatech.edu) wrote:
> I haven't read this whole thread, so I'm not gonna flame anybody, but Rush
> Limbaugh is awesome. His opinions are very well thought-out and logical. I
> agree with him almost all of the time. Quite often, Rush brings to the air
> a very important story that other members of the media have chosen to
> bury, if even reported, in their own publications.
I agree to a point. I also agree that overall, our media has a very
liberal bias. But I think that Rush takes great liberties with the
facts as well. I cannot condone this. I used to work as a courier and
Rush was on the station that provided the best traffic reports, so I
listened to him daily. On a wide variety of issues, I am just to the
right of Darth Vader, and I find Rush to be full of BS.
> Also, I believe everyone shold listen to people from all parts of the
> spectrum. These people with the "I think, therefore I don't listen to
> Rush" stickers are just proving their own closed-mindedness.
I think, and as previously stated, I listened to him quite extensively
(almost daily for two years). He's full of himself.
Who? Me?
Kay (ti...@havoc.gtf.gatech.edu) wrote:
> Dawn M. Smith (da...@cc.gatech.edu) wrote:
> : Kevin Tuttle <gt7...@acmex.gatech.edu> wrote:
> : >Evidently your mind is too closed to continue the discussion. If you are
> : >willing to consider both sides, mail me.
I think you have hit the nail on the head. We're all too closed minded.
I know you have no chance of changing my mind. I have listened to enough
Rush to know that I don't like him and don't agree with him disregarding
the truth in order to promote his own agenda (he is just as bad as the
liberal left). Obviously you disagree and are ALSO TOO CLOSED MINDED to
consider changing your mind either. We will simply have to agree to
disagree. I have no idea why I should mail you if I am willing to consider
both sides. I have seen no indication that you would be willing to do
the same. It's a shame so much of politics seems to degenerate to this,
but I see no end in sight.
> : To me, Rush is in the same category as Howard Sterns. Opposite
> : ends of the spectrum, but same basic personality!!!
> Yeah, but Stern kicks ass! He's an equal-oportunity offender. He
> even makes fun of himself. It's great!
There is no reason to insult Howard Stern by comparing him to Rush.
> : Flame Away!!!
Snick... Snick... Snick... Damn, I can't get this lighter to work...
Who? Me?
Jacob J. Sherwood (gt7...@prism.gatech.edu) wrote:
> I'm sorry to hear that SAC isn't of use to some of you. Well...tough
> luck!! Even if you live off campus, you could still workout there.
Tough luck is right. Yeah, I could still workout there IF I HAD ANY
DESIRE TO DO SO.
> have seen money wasted on athletic pursuits, but IMHO SAC is not a waste.
> It holds *academic* benefits for students who use it. Exercise is a great
> way to relieve stress. It also can help you concentrate better when you
> do study. All this while promoting physical well-being.
About the only exercise I care for is running and stretching. I don't
need ANY of the facilities at SAC for that.
> i personally enjoy all of the above. And I think
> SAC is generally cool.
Fine. Then you should pay for it. Might even be a great deal for you.
It's not for me.
> If you're so upset that *your* money is being wasted on SAC...then it's
> your own fault for not using it...
Huh? Sure, I take full responsibility for not using something I have no
interest in using. However, IT'S NOT MY FAULT I AM FORCED TO PAY FOR
SOMETHING I DON'T WANT TO USE!
Garzik
Who? Me? <cco...@acmez.gatech.edu> wrote:
>Huh? Sure, I take full responsibility for not using something I have no
>interest in using. However, IT'S NOT MY FAULT I AM FORCED TO PAY FOR
>SOMETHING I DON'T WANT TO USE!
Get used to it. Do you think I want my taxes to go the National
Helium Reserve, or want my taxes funding the 4th study of whether some
slowassed punk manatee needs saving or not? The majority of the
students can get some use out of it, so it's perfectly fair to charge
all students for that.
I think you can register as a Conscientious Objector somewhere on
campus.
Jeff
--
Everything is controlled by a small evil group to which, unfortunately,
no one we know belongs.
Garzik
Lightning Jack <gt7...@acmex.gatech.edu> wrote:
>Facts are facts no matter who is reporting them. If Limbaugh is biased
>then he is not reporting facts. However, you freely admit to his bias.
>Nothing wrong with that, in itself. You have also said more than once
>that his purpose is to entertain, not report facts. Also nothing wrong
My momma used to say that leaving out a possibly crucial piece of
information was the same as lying -- a lie of omission.
Reporters are, for the most part, fairly unbiased when it comes to the
reporting of a story. But the people who decide which stories go out,
and which will never see the light of day, are where most of the bias
comes from. Stories that might seem like important news to the
conservatives (or pick another group of people) get downplayed,
or not even reported, on the evening news.
Dawn M. Smith
In article <5d5nl7$4...@catapult.gatech.edu>,
Kevin Tuttle <gt7...@acmex.gatech.edu> wrote:
>: Get a grip!!! If Rush is so Honest and great as you make him out to
>: be, then why did Letterman have to clear out the audience in order for
>: Rush to continue his appearance on the show?
>Probably a lot of violent left-wing extremists. who know no other way of
>expressing themselves.
No, nice try though... They were just a bunch of opinionated
New Yorkers who do not lay down and let someone decide what they should
think.
>: And give me one - ONLY ONE - example where Rush has reported
>: a newsworthy item in a factual way.
>That's not why he's there, but I'll keep my ears open for you next time I
>listen to him.
But this is how many people think of him... not as entertainment
but as a reporter...
>: To me, Rush is in the same category as Howard Sterns. Opposite
>: ends of the spectrum, but same basic personality!!!
>Perhaps. But only if Stern actually believe what he says. Plus, Stern
>likes to focus on shocking people and admits to it, Rush does neither.
Sterns _does_ believe what he says. Sterns is in the Entertainment
business also, and IMHO shocking people is what Rush does best. The
main difference between Rush and Howard is that Howard says what people
really are thinking but will not admit it, Rush says things that he feels
people should think...
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changing. I do this so the world will know it will not change me."
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Dawn M. Smith
In article <5d6167$2...@smash.gatech.edu>,
As if we have a choice???? ;)
>no instance in which the Christian Coalition has actively campaigned to
>silence a speaking engargement by a noted liberal speaker.
That's because they are too busy taking over the Republican Party!
;)
Dawn M. Smith
In article <5d62p6$6...@catapult.gatech.edu>,
Kevin Tuttle <gt7...@acmez.gatech.edu> wrote:
>: : : And give me one - ONLY ONE - example where Rush has reported
>: : : a newsworthy item in a factual way.
>to report the news (therby conveying newsworthy items as the original post
>said).
Nope, wrong answer.... I was the original poster. I did not say
he was there to report the news. Thank goodness he's not. I said a
"Newsworthy Item." He acuses the President and the First Lady of so much
BS... when has he made a difference in any public opinion of them? When
has he discovered something about them that started an investigation or
made the CBS Evening News?
To me, all he does is stand (rather, sit) in front of his microphone
and ramble on about various heresays, public knowledge, and always throws
his opinions on the situation into the discussion (if you even want to call
it a discussion...).
Kevin Tuttle
Who? Me? (cco...@acmez.gatech.edu) wrote:
: I would really like to see a vote on this, even though I know we won't.
: We're screwed regardless.
Not necessarily. If you're a sophomore, you can vote for me for class
representitive.
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"Drive defensively. Buy a tank." -Unknown
Kevin Tuttle
geoff menegay (gt7...@prism.gatech.edu) wrote:
: This is all true, ideally. Yet people can still tell the truth, but
: let their biases frame it in such a way to give it the sort of spin they
: want. I'm too tired to give an example.
True. And indeed, many do. But it's my contention that people who pay
attention to what they are saying can overcome this failing.
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"The probability of life originating from accident is comparable to the
unabridged dictionary resulting from an explosion in a printing factory."
-Prof. Edwin Conklin
Kevin Tuttle
: New Yorkers who do not lay down and let someone decide what they should
: think.
Uh-huh, and how do you know this? Besides, no one was trying to tell them
what they should think.
: But this is how many people think of him... not as entertainment
: but as a reporter...
Then they don't listen to him enough. He frequently says that he is not a
replacement for the news, and is in it for entertainment only.
: Sterns _does_ believe what he says. Sterns is in the Entertainment
: business also, and IMHO shocking people is what Rush does best. The
: main difference between Rush and Howard is that Howard says what people
: really are thinking but will not admit it, Rush says things that he feels
: people should think...
Howard does not say what everyone is really thinking.
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Also BTW, David Bonior -- liberal extraordinare -- may be up for
indictment on a felony. He passed on that illegaly intercepted cellular
call from Gingrich. What a wonderful world.