Re: [HOT] "Training" volunteers in Albania

[Mike Dupont]

Howdy,

check out openlabs.com which is a group who is working on open source and knowledge projects in Albania.

in 2010 I was working on the flooding in Shokder, work page here with some non dead links.
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/AlbanianFloodingCrisisCamp

We have a mailing list with many users from Kosovo on it, there might be some from Albania.
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/gis-kosova

mike

On Fri, Apr 10, 2015 at 4:54 AM, malenki <os...@malenki.ch> wrote:

About a month ago I stumbled over some beginners mapping in Tirana
(capital of Albania).
Though the edits were not too useful they were tagged with
#hotosm-project-926 #PeaceCorps #PeaceCorpsAlbania source=Bing
so I thought to do nothing for the time being since the connected task
http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/926 said
| The Peace Corps Program in Tirana is training Volunteers […]
But after a month the data isn't changed/corrected and my message¹ to
the creator of the task sent on 24th of March still is not answered.

A mentioning of the issue on IRC on March 28th also don't give results.

My view of the issue is:
Which worth has a "training" when the trainees don't get feedback?
The creator of the task (which I assume the trainer) hasn't made a
single edit in Albania.
The data created during the task wasn't enhanced after creating it.

Now I'd like to hand over the "issue" to people with more experience
in HOT.

Regards
Thomas

¹ The message I sent:

Mirëdita [Albanian "good day"] $User

you created HOT task 926¹ for training volunteers in Albania.

I welcome people mapping a country I really like and of course HOT is
an invaluable program. But when you are /training/ people you should
also teach them how to do stuff and give feedback to what they mapped.
Else they may produce just a lot of unhelpful data.

I didn't investigate on purpose but so far I stumbled over following
issues:

    duplicate houses (mapped by the same mapper
    https://www.osm.org/#map=21/41.3330021/19.7839432
    houses with offset to its basements
    https://www.osm.org/#map=20/41.333141/19.782218
    houses drawn over highways
    https://www.osm.org/#map=20/41.333141/19.782218
    ways of outlines only tagged with area=yes e.g.:
    https://www.osm.org/#map=19/41.334339/19.788208
    In Tirana I found 103 ways which were tagged this way and
    belong to HOT task 926.

I also found a highway=road dragged over a correct highway which I just
corrected in the hope that the other stuff would be vanish due to a
training supervisor - which didn't happen.

Please tell your trainees that, when they map the outline of a roof,
they should afterwards drag it to the ground floor of the building. The
higher the building the worse the offset due to the sloped angle of the
aerial photograph. Please also tell them about the function "make
rectangular" which every editor has. (When using JOSM, don't forget to
mention the plugin "buildings_tools" (which enables drawing and tagging
a house with two clicks) and the extrude tool).

Best Regards from Germany
Thomas

¹ http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/926



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[Besfort Guri]

Dear all,

We talked a lot for this issues, what I suggest for Albania is a Mapathon for over the weekend in Tirana.

Thanks,

Besfort

On Sat, Apr 11, 2015 at 2:07 PM, Luca Paolo Pescatore <multi...@gmail.com> wrote:

Things Lab

https://www.facebook.com/ThingsLabTirana

Is the group that I am supporting now, one of the member of the lab wants to work with OSM.

I will put him in contact with you.

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[Besfort Guri]

But also we can talk in more detials during the OSCAL conference I will be there over the weekend so if anyone want to talk about OSM - HOT, even other things I can share whatever they want.