Re: Gimmie as Awn plugin -- Second Screenshot
Alex Graveley
Check out this screenshot... it's is all 4 Gimmie panels running as
applets in Awn. Pretty nifty!
The attached patch seems to work pretty well for me. It's against
gimmie svn trunk. Just make install, then fire up awn-manager. You
should hopefully see 4 plugins named like "Gimmie Library", and you
can add/remove them as any other plugins.
-Alex
On Feb 5, 2008 12:08 PM, Alex Graveley <al...@beatniksoftware.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I spent a couple hours yesterday trying to get Gimmie's menus
> displaying as avant-window-navigator plugins, and I made some good
> progress. Check out the attached screenshot... that's Gimmie's
> Computer menu displayed as a pretty Awn dialog, and the button to
> open/close it is the first icon on the left.
>
> I should have a patch for the adventurous coming up soon...
>
> -Alex
>
Seif Lotfy
As soon as i am done creating patches for trunk i will definitely work
on the awn plugin.
I would like the Gimmie dock functionality and the awn looks. this would
be amazing. I will work on it as soon as possible.
Cheers
Seif
deuce
Alex Graveley
from my last mail using patch(1), then just build and install:
$ svn co http://svn.gnome.org/svn/gimmie/trunk gimmie-awn
$ cd gimmie-awn
$ patch -p0 < /tmp/gimmie-awn-2.diff
$ ./autogen.sh
$ ./configure --prefix=/usr
$ make
$ sudo make install
$ avant-window-navigator
I'm talking with Seif right now about whether it will interrupt his
current patching efforts too much for me to commit this change to SVN
directly. But assuming it's okay with him, you'll be able to skip the
patch applying part above soon.
HTH,
-Alex
Alex Graveley
On Feb 7, 2008 12:46 PM, Alex Graveley <al...@beatniksoftware.com> wrote:
> Sorta... you can download gimmie's svn trunk, then apply the patch
> from my last mail using patch(1), then just build and install:
>
> $ svn co http://svn.gnome.org/svn/gimmie/trunk gimmie-awn
> $ cd gimmie-awn
> $ patch -p0 < /tmp/gimmie-awn-2.diff
Okay, I just committed this to SVN after chatting with Seif. You can
cut out step 3 above :)
-Alex
einalex
users with this effort...users like me for example.
cheers, alex
Alex Graveley
Awn supports compiz certainly, or any compositing WM. Neil says the next version is going to support non-composited displays as well... so no one should be left out :-)
-Alex
-----Original Message-----
From: einalex <alexande...@tuhh.de>
Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 04:01:20
To:Gimmie Desktop Organizer <gim...@googlegroups.com>
Subject: [gimmie] Re: Gimmie as Awn plugin -- Second Screenshot
nicky.7
Thanks for your work... when i have a litle bit of tie i'd like to
help u..
awn+gimmie could be really a powerful tool
I have some problem:
1. It is quite slow to start
2. I can't close any of the applet once i open it (default behaviour
is "close when i click again")..
3. Is gimmie translated in other language?
Thanks. Nicola
Alex Graveley
On Feb 8, 2008 11:32 AM, nicky.7 <nic...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I just tried gimmie-awn branch and.. it works!!!
> Thanks for your work... when i have a litle bit of tie i'd like to
> help u..
> awn+gimmie could be really a powerful tool
Glad you like it :-)
> I have some problem:
> 1. It is quite slow to start
I think this is mostly due to starting a bunch of http requests too
early, and from multiple gimmie-awn applets reading in the
~/.recently-used.xbel.
> 2. I can't close any of the applet once i open it (default behaviour
> is "close when i click again")..
I just committed a fix for this. Now clicking anywhere other than the
open Gimmie dialog should close the dialog.
> 3. Is gimmie translated in other language?
Yup, using Gettext and friends. Currently Gimmie has at least partial
translations for the following locales:
ALL_LINGUAS="ar bg ca cs da de dz el en_GB es fi fr gl hu ja lv mk nb oc pt_BR r
u sl sv vi zh_CN"
-Alex
nicky.7
> open Gimmie dialog should close the dialog.
continuously and i can't use it.
> > 3. Is gimmie translated in other language?
>
> Yup, using Gettext and friends. Currently Gimmie has at least partial
> translations for the following locales:
>
> ALL_LINGUAS="ar bg ca cs da de dz el en_GB es fi fr gl hu ja lv mk nb oc pt_BR r
> u sl sv vi zh_CN"
4. I have some problem with pidgin and gimmie. I can't click on my
status->available in order to open pidgin. I also have a lot of
warning/errors related to pidgin/gaim integration in the console.
5. Printer section continue refresh printer list all over the time. I
think this could be also cause some slowdown.
6. Would it be possible to add a launcher when i click in "add to
preferite" in the gimmie program list?
7. Is the file http://svn.gnome.org/svn/gimmie/trunk/gimmie/gimmie_awn.py
all the project of gimmie/awn integration?
nicky.7
> open Gimmie dialog should close the dialog.
continuously and i can't use it.
>
> Yup, using Gettext and friends. Currently Gimmie has at least partial
> translations for the following locales:
>
> ALL_LINGUAS="ar bg ca cs da de dz el en_GB es fi fr gl hu ja lv mk nb oc pt_BR r
> u sl sv vi zh_CN"
Jesse Hallett
the Gimmie dock better. But after using Avant for a couple of days, I
am warming up to it.
My biggest complaint about Avant is that because I tend to have
several Firefox windows open at a time, I see a whole lot of identical
Firefox icons in the dock. That doesn't seem very useful to me, since
there is no way to identify particular windows from a visual
inspection - so I get a lot clutter with little benefit.
But then I realized that if I could configure Firefox to set its
window icon to match the favicon of the active tab in that window,
then all of those icons would become much more useful. That way,
instead of a lot of identical Firefox icons, I would see a Gmail icon,
a Netvibes icon, and so on. Konqueror does this by default; and I
found an extension that makes Epiphany do the same thing. But after
some Googling, I haven't found any way to get this behavior out of
Firefox. Does anybody know of a way to do this?
Cheers,
Jesse
Alex Graveley
icon won't represent all the opened tabs. Like right now I have Gmail
and Facbook open. Which favicon should I see? The focused tab's?
Which icon would be most memorable to me when I return from lunch in
an hour? Probably neither.
I would like to investigate getting Gimmie's existing running-app
logic working as an Awn applet... maybe integrating it into the
existing Awn tasklist?
-Alex
Jesse Hallett
the way to go. That way the icon will indicate whatever you were using
that window for last - or on a typical inspection, whatever you are
using that window for most.
It's not going to mean much in a lot of cases; but in some cases it
will be very helpful. For example, I often dedicate a Firefox window
to Gmail, and another to Netvibes. Even in cases where you are using
one window for a bunch of different stuff, seeing the icon for the
active tab might remind you what else is in that window - especially
if the other tabs are related in some way.
The Gimmie way of one icon per application is a good way to go too. If
you imported the Gimmie logic into Awn, would icons then be grouped by
type, as in Gimmie?
Cheers,
Jesse
michae...@googlemail.com
- Beautiful like a OSX Dock
- Customizable like a Gnome Panel
- Better than Windows-TaskBar :)
On 12 Feb., 01:20, "Jesse Hallett" <halle...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I think using the icon of the focused tab to represent the window is
> the way to go. That way the icon will indicate whatever you were using
> that window for last - or on a typical inspection, whatever you are
> using that window for most.
>
> It's not going to mean much in a lot of cases; but in some cases it
> will be very helpful. For example, I often dedicate a Firefox window
> to Gmail, and another to Netvibes. Even in cases where you are using
> one window for a bunch of different stuff, seeing the icon for the
> active tab might remind you what else is in that window - especially
> if the other tabs are related in some way.
>
> The Gimmie way of one icon per application is a good way to go too. If
> you imported the Gimmie logic into Awn, would icons then be grouped by
> type, as in Gimmie?
>
> Cheers,
> Jesse
>
>
>
>
> > It's an interesting thought. One thing to consider is that a single
> > icon won't represent all the opened tabs. Like right now I have Gmail
> > and Facbook open. Which favicon should I see? The focused tab's?
> > Which icon would be most memorable to me when I return from lunch in
> > an hour? Probably neither.
>
> > I would like to investigate getting Gimmie's existing running-app
> > logic working as an Awn applet... maybe integrating it into the
> > existing Awn tasklist?
>
> > -Alex
>
>
> > > This is really nice. In the past I have shunned Avant because I liked
> > > the Gimmie dock better. But after using Avant for a couple of days, I
> > > am warming up to it.
>
> > > My biggest complaint about Avant is that because I tend to have
> > > several Firefox windows open at a time, I see a whole lot of identical
> > > Firefox icons in the dock. That doesn't seem very useful to me, since
> > > there is no way to identify particular windows from a visual
> > > inspection - so I get a lot clutter with little benefit.
>
> > > But then I realized that if I could configure Firefox to set its
> > > window icon to match the favicon of the active tab in that window,
> > > then all of those icons would become much more useful. That way,
> > > instead of a lot of identical Firefox icons, I would see a Gmail icon,
> > > a Netvibes icon, and so on. Konqueror does this by default; and I
> > > found an extension that makes Epiphany do the same thing. But after
> > > some Googling, I haven't found any way to get this behavior out of
> > > Firefox. Does anybody know of a way to do this?
>
> > > Cheers,
> > > Jesse
>
>
> > > > > I just committed a fix for this. Now clicking anywhere other than the
> > > > > open Gimmie dialog should close the dialog.
>
> > > > With this version i have another problem... The applet resize itself
> > > > continuously and i can't use it.
>
> > > > > > 3. Is gimmie translated in other language?
>
> > > > > Yup, using Gettext and friends. Currently Gimmie has at least partial
> > > > > translations for the following locales:
>
> > > > > ALL_LINGUAS="ar bg ca cs da de dz el en_GB es fi fr gl hu ja lv mk nb oc pt_BR r
> > > > > u sl sv vi zh_CN"
>
> > > > I'm italian. How can i help in traslation?
>
> > > > 4. I have some problem with pidgin and gimmie. I can't click on my
> > > > status->available in order to open pidgin. I also have a lot of
> > > > warning/errors related to pidgin/gaim integration in the console.
>
> > > > 5. Printer section continue refresh printer list all over the time. I
> > > > think this could be also cause some slowdown.
>
> > > > 6. Would it be possible to add a launcher when i click in "add to
> > > > preferite" in the gimmie program list?
>
Dennis Fisher
considering that it's full name is Avant Window Navigator. I *really*
like the idea of one icon per application too, though I'm not sure how
you'd be able to tell how many windows an application has open.
Possibly not important though.
Also really really irked by the treatment of launchers doubling as
window representations, but if Awn went to one icon per app, that may
seem like less of a disconnect when a new window opens as a completely
separate icon with somewhat different behavior. (Currently to get
around that I just use Gnome Do for launching and leave only running
tasks on Awn.)
I know this is all stuff more for Awn's list, but since this
discussion was already happening here, thought I'd throw in my two
cents. And I hope this doesn't mean the end of standalone Gimmie! At
least not until Awn is as capable of sane window management as
Gimmie. :)
On Feb 11, 4:20 pm, "Jesse Hallett" <halle...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I think using the icon of the focused tab to represent the window is
> the way to go. That way the icon will indicate whatever you were using
> that window for last - or on a typical inspection, whatever you are
> using that window for most.
>
> It's not going to mean much in a lot of cases; but in some cases it
> will be very helpful. For example, I often dedicate a Firefox window
> to Gmail, and another to Netvibes. Even in cases where you are using
> one window for a bunch of different stuff, seeing the icon for the
> active tab might remind you what else is in that window - especially
> if the other tabs are related in some way.
>
> The Gimmie way of one icon per application is a good way to go too. If
> you imported the Gimmie logic into Awn, would icons then be grouped by
> type, as in Gimmie?
>
> Cheers,
> Jesse
>
>
>
>
> > It's an interesting thought. One thing to consider is that a single
> > icon won't represent all the opened tabs. Like right now I have Gmail
> > and Facbook open. Which favicon should I see? The focused tab's?
> > Which icon would be most memorable to me when I return from lunch in
> > an hour? Probably neither.
>
> > I would like to investigate getting Gimmie's existing running-app
> > logic working as an Awn applet... maybe integrating it into the
> > existing Awn tasklist?
>
> > -Alex
>
>
> > > This is really nice. In the past I have shunned Avant because I liked
> > > the Gimmie dock better. But after using Avant for a couple of days, I
> > > am warming up to it.
>
> > > My biggest complaint about Avant is that because I tend to have
> > > several Firefox windows open at a time, I see a whole lot of identical
> > > Firefox icons in the dock. That doesn't seem very useful to me, since
> > > there is no way to identify particular windows from a visual
> > > inspection - so I get a lot clutter with little benefit.
>
> > > But then I realized that if I could configure Firefox to set its
> > > window icon to match the favicon of the active tab in that window,
> > > then all of those icons would become much more useful. That way,
> > > instead of a lot of identical Firefox icons, I would see a Gmail icon,
> > > a Netvibes icon, and so on. Konqueror does this by default; and I
> > > found an extension that makes Epiphany do the same thing. But after
> > > some Googling, I haven't found any way to get this behavior out of
> > > Firefox. Does anybody know of a way to do this?
>
> > > Cheers,
> > > Jesse
>
>
> > > > > I just committed a fix for this. Now clicking anywhere other than the
> > > > > open Gimmie dialog should close the dialog.
>
> > > > With this version i have another problem... The applet resize itself
> > > > continuously and i can't use it.
>
> > > > > > 3. Is gimmie translated in other language?
>
> > > > > Yup, using Gettext and friends. Currently Gimmie has at least partial
> > > > > translations for the following locales:
>
> > > > > ALL_LINGUAS="ar bg ca cs da de dz el en_GB es fi fr gl hu ja lv mk nb oc pt_BR r
> > > > > u sl sv vi zh_CN"
>
> > > > I'm italian. How can i help in traslation?
>
> > > > 4. I have some problem with pidgin and gimmie. I can't click on my
> > > > status->available in order to open pidgin. I also have a lot of
> > > > warning/errors related to pidgin/gaim integration in the console.
>
> > > > 5. Printer section continue refresh printer list all over the time. I
> > > > think this could be also cause some slowdown.
>
> > > > 6. Would it be possible to add a launcher when i click in "add to
> > > > preferite" in the gimmie program list?
>