Personal vs Business view of Projects & Actions

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eds

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Jun 3, 2007, 8:00:26 AM6/3/07
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Is there a way to achieve a listing of Business vs Personal actions
and projects? I'm currently solving this problem by having just two
project -- business and personal! - so that I can get a listing of
either. This is extremely useful, as I have a large number of actions
in my contexts, and don't always want to be sorting through them when
I am solidly in one of the uber contexts.
A perfecrt solution to this for me (one that I've used for years in my
spreadsheet solutions to trying to get things done) is to have a
category column that allows me to group contexts, actions and
projects, and a "view all" option

Enoch

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Jun 4, 2007, 4:43:39 AM6/4/07
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I wonder if the contexts could be grouped into "groups" (or whatever
term might be used) to match the calendar groups in ical? That might
address your issue, and have numerous other applications.

Lance

Jacob Wallström

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Jun 4, 2007, 7:01:04 AM6/4/07
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Hi Ed,

The way I envision to deal with this problem is that you split your
contexts. If you need to separate work actions from private actions,
to me that indicates that they belongs to different contexts. A
contexts is not only a physical place but a situation that enables
you to do stuff of a certain kind.

For example if you have a context "Computer" there might be plenty of
work actions and private actions in that context. But since the
private actions are not appropriate to be done at work, "Computer" is
not a proper context and should be separated into "Computer Work" and
"Computer Private".

Best regards,
Jacob Wallström
http://ghostparksoftware.com

Jacob Wallström

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Jun 4, 2007, 7:04:05 AM6/4/07
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Hi Lance,

That's an interesting idea that I have been considering. So far, I
have come to the conclusion however that a proper separation into
contexts should rarely result in much more than 10 - 15 contexts and
therefore context groups are not needed. You are welcome to prove me
wrong, however :-)

Best regards,
Jacob Wallström
http://ghostparksoftware.com

Rich Schumaker

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Jun 4, 2007, 7:06:11 AM6/4/07
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I agree with you Jacob and I think this is method is more consistent
with the GTD approach to task management.

On Jun 4, 7:01 am, Jacob Wallström


<jacob.wallst...@ghostparksoftware.com> wrote:
> Hi Ed,
>
> The way I envision to deal with this problem is that you split your
> contexts. If you need to separate work actions from private actions,
> to me that indicates that they belongs to different contexts. A
> contexts is not only a physical place but a situation that enables
> you to do stuff of a certain kind.
>
> For example if you have a context "Computer" there might be plenty of
> work actions and private actions in that context. But since the
> private actions are not appropriate to be done at work, "Computer" is
> not a proper context and should be separated into "Computer Work" and
> "Computer Private".
>
> Best regards,

> Jacob Wallströmhttp://ghostparksoftware.com

eds

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Jun 4, 2007, 10:53:08 AM6/4/07
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Its difficult for me -- and others? - to pare down contexts to <15, so
that they can all be successfully synced to PDA.
The Grouping approach (thanks Enoch -- that fits well with iCal set
up) would allow a simple way to organize the 50+ projects I need to
track at work and home, and also provide a quick way to just see what
I want for a personal or business focus. For example: when I'm having
my coffee at 6 am Saturday, I want to see what business items I can
knock off by 8, then only focus on Personal stuff through rest of day,
without having to gloss over all of the business actions which I do
not have time for that day

Enoch

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Jun 5, 2007, 6:21:39 AM6/5/07
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Jacob,

I agree with your take in theory, and as Rich says it is probably is
more GTD-ish. But I think Ed's point (OK, so he agrees with
me ... ;-) ) about PDA sync is a significant one, especially given
that PDA compatibility is one of the selling points of GA over many
other GTD apps. Sure you can limit which ical calendars sync with the
PDA (assuming you have MissingSync) and thus increase the chances of
keeping it below 15. But that's not going to work for everyone. If
adaptability/ flexibility & Palm etc compatibility are going to be key
strengths of the app, then IMO there needs to be room for creative
filtering of views. The group idea may or may not be the best way to
achieve this, but I think it has some promise.

Lance

On Jun 5, 12:53 am, eds <edsmith...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Its difficult for me -- and others? - to pare down contexts to <15, so
> that they can all be successfully synced to PDA.
> The Grouping approach (thanks Enoch -- that fits well with iCal set
> up) would allow a simple way to organize the 50+ projects I need to

> track at work and home, [snip]

Jacob Wallström

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Jun 14, 2007, 6:10:48 AM6/14/07
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Ed and Lance,

That's an interesting argument. I've never exceeded 15 contexts
myself so I hadn't thought of the limits of the Palm. So I assume
that you mean that only the main contexts, not the subcontexts, will
be synced?

Is this the main reason for having grouped contexts? In that case
there might be other ways to solve this problem, as Lance says.

Best regards,
Jacob Wallström
http://ghostparksoftware.com

Enoch

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Jun 15, 2007, 7:27:26 AM6/15/07
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Jacob,

I'd like to see what Ed says, as his situation sounds different again
from mine. But for myself, I guess what you just said would be one
application of the groups idea. But there might be others as well. I
think it offers a fair bit of flexibility to configure your contexts
in a way that works for you, which may or may not include a PDA. Hope
that makes some sense (but I'm conscious that I'm starting to confuse
myself!) ...

Lance

On Jun 14, 8:10 pm, Jacob Wallström
<jacob.wallst...@ghostparksoftware.com> wrote:
> Ed and Lance,
>
[snip]So I assume


> that you mean that only the main contexts, not the subcontexts, will
> be synced?
>

> Is this the main reason for having grouped contexts? [snip]
>
> Best regards,
> Jacob Wallströmhttp://ghostparksoftware.com

Jay2You

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Jul 4, 2007, 9:22:08 AM7/4/07
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If I may add something to this... (hope you don't mind)

Why not add the personal or business view as a "color-flag" in every
task. So drag it away from the discussion if you should have a depth
in the context. Just an extra column in the main window. The flag-
names and colors can be the same as in iCal. It simply shows a
coloured dot in front of the row. The dot can be changed into an other
iCal-group. And if the flagcolumn can be sorted by group, it's easy to
gather all "personal" tasks together. Businesstasks are in the same
list, but grouped up or down the list.

Having a "flag" like "personal" attached to a task seems a logical
thing if you sync with a PDA (or a Windows SmartPhone like I do).
And it helps to focus on certain tasks if you have many listed tasks.

Jan Willem

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