Ben,
Brave proposal.
I can forgive your language expression. However, who told you the leadership in Ghana have a plan to deliver electricity to the poor, middle class and the rich for real? In every civilized society those who can pay for services get it first and through their properties when taxed. In every one of the 50 States in America, every town, anywhere you buy a house telephone wires, electricity, decent roads, schools and libraries are standard and built into the property taxes.
In Ghana, even those of us who built in East Legon and are willing to pay for a town or area Transformer upgrade, due to politics, they cannot allow us to get what we want and pay for it! I have had discussions with some men in the management structure in the last 8 years and I got too tired and that is why I sam selling my properties in Ghana as in the link below my signature line (don’t forget the $20,000 referral bonus if you find me a qualified buyer).
Ben, we are doomed by our leadership! Don’t let us confuse campaign slogans with real intentions of these men who rise to power. You were charmed by the sweet talk of President Mahama. Do you know I have heard such sweet talk of Ghanaian Diplomats for over 40 years! They all sound so good when you meet them!
As a Consultant Engineer, all you can do is evaluate and write a report and tell them what needs to be done, how much it will cost and even how long it will take.
If they don’t want to spend the money, then what does Ghana gain from your services?
Nothing!!
According to people I know at ECG several such reports have been done over the years. Our leaders simply are not interested in solving this problem unless and until the amount of money you will charge plus this whole project will cost is put on the table, say $100 million, then they can triple the amount and apply for a World Bank Loan of say $300 million and can figure out how they can pocket the $200 million. Even then the work will not be done. I have cited many times how a grant of $103 million and loan of $500 million were given to Ghana in 2004/2005 for urban and rural water supply systems and yet nothing was done. Kufuor’s government never completed the project and the NDC can do nothing because they took $4.2 Billion for asphalt concrete highway and road construction in the 1990-95 (5 year project they said) that never was done in early 1990s!!
Do you remember how the late President Mills would not do much about the Woyome judgment debt payment because he wanted the court judgment debt payments to go all the way back to previous administrations?
Ben,, I am sorry you are at an age that I have passed through myself,, From the mid/late 40s to early/mid 50s you may feel invincible,, and I pity your energy level and your idealistic thinking of Engineers. I chose Engineering like you among many options I could have taken if anybody gave me good advice at that young age and of course a crystal ball,, that engineers are merely the tools in the hands of our less endowed colleagues who may or may not be honest and entrusted with the leadership of society. There is no more exciting study than the study of Electrical or Electronics Engineering and yet unraveling the secrets of nature to bring convenience, comfort and civilization to mankind does not guarantee us any respect. I once watched as I was working in my business an old Engineer from Palo Alto area who used to work in one of the high tech companies losing his house in foreclosure, and I could not help but feel so sad!!
My brother, let’s hope and pray,, err,, sorry oo,, meditate for you,, or look in the skies and invoke the spirit of Nananom who passed away ahead of you, that one day we will have a man half the IQ of men like you and some of the engineers we know to lead us. In America people with high IQ did not have to all get into Engineering and Science, but thanks to Kwame Nkrumah’s promises in the 1960s, the destiny we have is that anybody who could add and subtract well,, Okay let’s say 95%, did go into Science and Engineering and Medicine. I remember how in 1963/64 time, some of our Liberal Arts colleagues would not even try to do O Level math when given the best Math teacher we had at Prempeh College. Well, granted there are men like Tsatsu Tsikata and PV, note that these 2-5% are the people like Ato Ahwoi who told me in 1989 that we did not have money to clean up our streets. He studied Economics. No clue how wealth is generated and how some of that is used to clean up and build the roads! Kwamena Ahwoi says we cannot have elections in the towns! Why? People in rural areas are not smart enough! That is the best he can comprehend. It was no surprise to me when Kufuor, reported to be a good student, was reported to have told a friend before he became President that Ghana did not have housing problems since in Ghana a place to lay one’s head is not hard to find. My late grandfather would say “Nkwaseas3m kwa!!”. It was also no surprise to me when a few years ago when one man reputed to be an Obenfo (smart men), Hon. J. H. Mensah proposed to sell Agric Development Bank to strategic investors, foreigners, who would then give loans to farmers! My gosh!! Why would a foreigner like to charge less than his competitors in the Ghana market charging 29% to 100% loan sharking rates? It did not make sense and I had to write the Honorable Obenfo.
Ben, my brother, how do you expect people like this to understand the need for electricity and to hire somebody and pay them $1,500 per hour? Our late President perhaps sincerely from his heart thought this work was for technicians! It is highly unlikely they will accept to pay $1,500 per hour since they may think electricity is, or Engineering is, as my 98 year old aunt once said, a matter of “climbing telephone or electricity poles”. And when these Science and number-challenged colleagues become Presidents they don’t recognize or accept Science Education. They hire retired high school teachers (not even Science teachers) who are Party Regional Chairmen as MD of Electricity Corporation.
MY ONLY SOLUTION –if you younger guys have the time and energy, is to write and contact and influence the World Financial bodies, WB, IMF, etc, to stop giving money to these nations like Ghana but rather do the Saudi Arabian method – where the projects is bid on and completed to specifications and moneys paid to contractors directly! That is the only way to deal with these nations now.
You have about 15 more years to get the job done to help your country, or else shut up!,, I have been writing and talking for 40 years and I am tired and ready to shut up myself and hold my head in shame as an African man, or keep up the pretending smile, and enjoy what white people have built here in California! I feel sad for us sometimes,, but you all need to work together and figure something out beyond mere talk and expressions as you do. Very soon, your bones may start complaining as mine sometimes does when I climb these steep stairs now,, that is called Old age!!
All my best, my brother!
BCC:
Dr. Tony Aidoo, Prof Abeeku Brew-Hammond, Hon. Sherry Ayittey, Hon. Mustapha Ahmed, Dr. Abu Sakara, Dr. Paa Kwesi Nduom, and one Division Manager of ECG.
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Livermore, California, USA & East Legon-Accra, Ghana
Tel. 925-292-8042 (USA PST)
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From: glu-ghana-lea...@googlegroups.com [mailto:glu-ghana-lea...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Benjamin Dedjoe
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 1:04 PM
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Subject: Re: Proposal to fix Ghana's Power Problems
Wofa Kweku,
The power grid in India collapsed today and over 600 million people are without electricity.
Electric power engineering infrastructure development is capital intensive. In the US, congress allocates money every fiscal year for all of our projects and we have 12 months to do design, construction and installation or lose the funding.
The same can be done in Ghana easily but some of these folks think that being a thief on a regular workweek and attending Church service on Sunday would wash your sins away...not true stop it fellows. Tell yours pastors to go to hell!
Back to serious business!
I am a professional engineer and I can talk to sensible serious humans differently.
Here is my new proposal for Ghana.
My consultation fee from project caddle to grave will be set at $1500 per hour. Travel time will be billed at $800 per hour. All fees are non negotiable and subject to change.
1. Assessment of the existing conditions of electric power distribution infrastructure in Ghana to include but not limited to: Distribution Substation evaluation, power dilivery process and equipment maintenance schedules, protection schemes, power cable evaluations, distribution transformer sizing, code violations, grounding schemes, lighting protection schemes, switchgear, switchboard, fuse disconnect switches, breaker settings, coordination studies among several other power conditioning test procedures to fully understand ans identify the quandary.
2. Identify the bottlenecks and make recommendations to the Chief engineer in charge. Identify quick fixes to restore power as needed.
3. Come up with a new design scheme
3.1 develop a master plan for the next 20 years!
4. Prepare contracting documents for bid solicitation.
5. Set up project funds at Barclays Bank, NY to issue payments as the project progresses. Payments will only be made in the US based on accomplished milestone set forth in the contract between Dedjoe and the Republic of Ghana Power Rehabilation Project.
6. Set up milestones for billable hours for engineers and contractors.
7. Open bid to American power engineering companies only such as
1. Siemens
2. GE
3. Square D
4. Eaton formerly known as Cutler Hammer
Italian, British or European companies can also bid if they are interested.
No Chinese or Arab companies will be allowed to tender bids.
7. I will be the lead design consulting engineer
My pay rate shall be $1500 per hour
I will employ four engineers to work on the project
1 civil engineer
1 mechanical engineer
1 cathographer
I electrical engineers
They will all be Ghanains and if they need training we will pay for them to be trained in the US for 6 months prior to starting the project.
Their salaries will be set at $90,000 per year.
8. Ghanaian electrical, civil and mechanical shall fawful artfully selected and they will become project managers who will report directly to the office of the president or government appointee.
9. A member of parliament could also be appointed to make sure that the work is being done.
10. After the initial assessment is completed, I will be able to come up with construction and installation schedule showing the start and finish dates of the project.
I do not care who wins the election.
NPP or NDC or ZZZ need electricity for their people
and I will stay out of Ghanaian politics.
If Nana Akufo or Paa Kwesi Ndoom or Mr Mahama likes my plan of action, let's set it up and get started.
I am getting my money upfront at least 50% guaranteed by the aforementioned NY Bank prior to going to Ghana for the project. I do not need government issued vehicle, I will buy my own from my initial payment. I do not need free accommodation. I make reservations for my hotel room. I will not disclose my hotel for security reasons. I will hire my
Own security guards from the USA. They will be armed guards from Black Water Seurity in the US.
I do not need free gasoline for my work truck. I do not need anyone to be my friend either.
I will sign the contract with my lawyers at the Ghana embassy in MD or Chicago or wherever but not on Ghana. All contracts will be signed and sealed in the USA.
Depending on how much will be available we can phase out the project.
The rich folks can get their power fixed first, followed by the middle income folks and then poor people last or vice versa.
I have broken everything down so that my 5 year old daughter will understand.
Please send this note to the right people and let's do it for the Republic of Ghana.
I will take one month annual leave from work to set up the project.
I do not want to be friends with any politician. I will get the job done, donate my pickup truck to a hospital and take off.
Let me know if you have any questions or concerns.
I Love Ghana!
Benjamin Dedjoe,
Electric Power Engineer
USA
Now if you have politicians stealing funds borrowed from the world bank to do
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On Jul 31, 2012, at 11:18 AM, "Kwaku A. Danso" <k.d...@comcast.net> wrote:
Nana,
You guys lack a sense of humor.
Do you sincerely think Ben is serious about going to Ghana to run for any office?
That man is a soldier, and like most of us, is totally disgusted at our inability as a people, in 55 years, to get certain things done that are fundamental, elementary, such as electricity, but have nothing to do with technique or knowhow, but purely corruption!
Look, even during the 1950s Nkrumah got a Dam and Hydro-Power Generator built for Ghana using Americas and perhaps a few Ghanaians under training. Do you mean to tell me if these leaders like Rawlings, Kufuor and Mills were sincere they could not find the right people and money to increase the reliability of these electricity distribution systems? It is purely lack of concern of these leaders and purely corruption unchecked by the Presidents themselves. For example, if you take a loan to increase the capacity or improve on an existing system, you can do multiple bidding and you can have other ways of monitoring the output results. Due to corruption none of these leaders do that.
This is what frustrates a young man and because all of you young men have no clue how wicked and crooked minded your leaders in government are. It is hard to believe it.
In 1989/90 – a loan of $4.2 Billion for Asphalt concrete highways, in the Budget, under Rawlings by Dr. Kwesi Botchwey – where are the roads?
In 2004/2005 – a grant of $102 million and later loan of $500 million for water (urban and rural) from the World Bank to Kufuor’s government. Where is the Water?
In 2007/8 time – loan of $600 million for electricity upgrades – where is the money and what do we show for it? The Bui Dam was a separate loan.
Folks, until and unless any government investigates these and finds people guilty of crimes and imprison them, Ghana will never move forward as corruption is not a one party issue but universal. American have corrupt people too and were it not for the strict monitoring and accounting,, lots would be stolen here. It’s not perfect yet but they try and they have limited corruption to a point, and public officials are held to account quickly as the news are announced. In America when you report your electricity is interrupted and the media picks it up they will follow through to what happened and if it be found that the equipment is old, they will keep up the pressure till reason found or taxes increased and if somebody stole the money meat for improvement, make the laws work and the person to pay!
Ben is simply frustrated! He does not understand what corruption and public theft can do to people and society!
We are acting like animals in Ghana!
The reason is simply because as the thieves steal the money, the leaders also pretend like they are not aware, simply for their re-election fund!
It is a major disgrace,,
Kwesi Nduom, Jacob Osei Yeboah, Abu Sakara, Akufo Addo, Mahama and all these people are simply afraid to state categorically and in plain words for everybody to hear what they will do to stop this canker in our society,, or they have no idea how to solve corruption and bring accountability. Preaching as Mills did to the ports and Customs officials, is not the answer – simply laughable! There is no way we can do without technology in monitoring our accounts and projects and if we think sweet talk to win elections is all it takes, then we are not there yet.
K. Danso
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Subject: Re: [Nia_for_Ghana] RE: President John Mahama & Matters Arising
This is one of the few cases in which I might actively campaign against a person who runs for a
campaign for office. Although I believe that the best people for politics are the ones who have already made some money before entering the fray, I am always wary of those who volunteer information about their wealth and pedigree (academic or otherwise) so frequently and openly.
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On Jul 31, 2012, at 12:06 AM, Benjamin Dedjoe <ded...@yahoo.com> wrote:Paul,
I do not need complements from you. I know my stuff and a well respected man in power engineering in the USA. By the way, I am the one and only Ghanaian-American senior electrical engineer working for the US government. You can check the facts you......,,,,don't make me finish this sentence!
Ghana is a total mess that is why I continue to throw insults when I can to awaken those of you sleeping at the wheel consciousness!
I do not have a dog in this fight okay. White people love me because I am smart, hard working and I always get the mission accomplished and I am not a thief, got that! You will rather get a Ghanaian who will connive and condone with the thieves! I am not begging for work, just doing my country of birth a favor. In case you don't know power engineers are in high demand in the US. There are only 28,000 certified power engineers in the world and I am one of the few and the proud. I am wealthy and I do not need stolen money from Ghana to feed my family, you got that!
The guy I could not pick up at the airport wants to build power plants and he wants me to come to Ghana and beg them for 'god' knows what! He is a mechanical engineer who doesn't know much about electric power generation, transmission and distribution, protection schemes, power control and reliability systems and so on and so forth...Ghana is in the stone age when it comes to modern power infrastructure. This is who I am, I will not change my attitude for you or anyone else...My brain works like a high voltage switch; it is either on or off. Bring it on!
Good luck finding that Ghanaian power engineer who will kiss your asssssss!
Love you all in total darkness with your stone age mentality!
Peace out!
Benjamin Dedjoe
Electrical Power Guru
USA
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On Jul 30, 2012, at 6:09 PM, "Kwaku A. Danso" <k.d...@comcast.net> wrote:Paul,
“Every man has his price”,
says the great Howard Hughes.
If I am the President of Ghana and need to have a job done in 6 months that would take Ghanaians 2 years and another 4 years, and another 10 years, and never get done as they have done to our electricity, Water and Accra-Kumais0Takoradi Highway development that have lasted over 40 years after Nkrumah left and not completed to date despite billions in loans, I’d rather call Ben as Project Manager.
Ben cannot survive as an employee in Ghana - that is for sure. I did a 3-way with him and my friend who was the ECG Chairman, Dr. Kwaku Osafo, and we learned that they are looking to pay somebody about $15,000 per year to do the work. However, as we all know, the crab-in-a-bucket principle indicates they will never give it to a Ghanaian, unless you are part of their party and have made substantial contributions or referral. I know another Ghanaian who is in the private sector, in Power Installations for major cities in North America, but he said his own brother advised him to forget Ghana.
Ghana needs to connect the right electricity equipment within 56 months. Who can do the job? Period!
See, somebody like Ben will have to be reporting directly to somebody like me if I am President since I know what can be done and how long it will take and can crack a whip. Not to be mean but there are some of our people in government who still think electricity is a major mystery (and of course we know it is but so is all Science to them), and so is Water Treatment plants, good concrete highways, and beyond the means and knowledge of the black man. You just can’t fool me after all these years in America No way! What haven’t I seen before, in 10 major corporations and on my own for another 15-20 years? A major highway in our area collapsed that was handling over 200,000 vehicles per day and they needed a contractor. One company took the contract and in 19 days had the whole concrete highway with all the connections installed tested and working! Ahead of schedule. These are the kind of jobs you call men like Ben. These men of the US Army Corps of Engineers demand hyperactive men and workers! In other words, when I call Ben to do a job, I don’t care for his nice words, courtesy, diplomacy, etc. All I care is that he can kick some a** and get the job done within the time frame needed, or else I kick his butt! Sorry but that’s the way American Engineers talk.
We don’t need to love Ben. His wife gives him enough love. I sincerely believe based on what I have read about him he can get the job done,, and to heck with diplomacy. It is the Ghanaians in high office who have a problem and if I were in charge like Mahama now, trust that in the last 3 days I’d have put FIRE already!! I’d fire lots of them and put some in jail!! After all you can’t be Vice President without knowing or having thought about all your visions before the date comes. Mahama would be lying or a wimp if he cannot be awaken at 3am and make decisions! (as Hillary once alluded to).
K. Danso
From: Nia_fo...@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Nia_fo...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Paul Fordjour
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 8:38 AM
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Subject: Re: [Nia_for_Ghana] RE: President John Mahama & Matters Arising
Ben, don’t worry too much – I will have you climbing a electricity pole very soon in Ghana to help us out.
Bro Kwaku,
Unless Ben has work ethics that is different from what has been displayed on this net, it will not be a wise idea to support him for a project in Ghana. It's one think working as an engineer in a firm or in the army and another thing working as a contractor for a nation. Ben's choice of words will be a disaster! And remember he failed to make the appointment when you connected him with someone in Ghana (was it the minister of energy or someone like that)? There are other qualified or better qualified Ghana engineers living in the US that can help.
-Paul
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Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 6:42:07 PM
Subject: RE: [Nia_for_Ghana] RE: President John Mahama & Matters Arising
Ben,
You are not that crazy and that different from most of us, and I am promoting people, individuals, not any Political Party per se. I loved Kwame Nkrumah but I am not a CPP member – just met Dr. Abu Sakara personally, sat down for hours with him to size him up and a little better than you seeing Mahama on Video!
Unless there is enough press and media reports, I usually won’t call somebody a thief,, and that is the same as you are doing.
I had a chance to listen to and talk on 3 occasions, with Paa Kwesi Nduom and Dr. Abu Sakara, and that is why I am supporting them, even though on different party tickets. You are right when he was Minister of energy – somebody brought up the Question and he answered it very well – he made some proposals that may not have been implemented, but many ideas that helped improve the energy sector he proposed were put in operation today. Others had to continue where he left off. I can offer you a chance to converse with the man directly or go to his Website.
So far we have no worthy news report that any of the people I support are thieves or have been corrupt – they are people who were overseas just like you and I and returned home to succeed in some way.
Ben, don’t worry too much – I will have you climbing a electricity pole very soon in Ghana to help us out.
Stay cool and keep your tools close by just in case you are asked to board the plane quickly!
K. Danso
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Subject: Re: [Nia_for_Ghana] RE: President John Mahama & Matters Arising
Kweku,
All the folks you are endorsing for president are corrupt! They destroyed Ghana in the name of democracy. Kuffour's administration destroyed Ghana, they sold the oil to their fake Houston, TX companies etc. They are bad "thieves" that is why I "hate" them. I live comfortably in the US and I want the same for my people living in Ghana.
They built hotel Kuffour under the watchful eyes of the then attorney General Akuffo Addo,
Paa Kwasi Ndoom was the energy minister but you don't blame him for Ghana's energy woes, and I wonder why?
You know these folks are all millionaires while the majority of our brothers and sisters, mothers and fathers live in abject poverty and continue to suffer and denied basic livelihood...
I endorsed Mahama and I do not even know him, however he sounded like an honest and descent man.
I do not care which party anyone belongs to, I look at the facts in print media and the mindset and historical facts then I draw my own conclusions.
Mahama impressed me on NPR and I believe he is willing to get help from experts like me living abroad.
The entire Africa is messed up! Know that with all due respect!
The whole world is learning and fighting for survival except African leadership acting like animals as you always say only in a different manner.
I am an American soldier and I an not afraid of anyone especially not in Ghana.
If those folks repent their sins and want to do something good for Ghana, they will earn my support, else they will get insults from me...call them "thieves". I think you are biased too, promoting CPP and stuff. I know politics is crazy...keep in mind that there are lots of Ghanians in the US Army active or retired and watching the affairs of Ghana closely. If any politician thinks he can kill people because they lost an election, they should think twice.
They will suffer the same fate as Lauranent Gbagbo. If any of the guys I hate win, I will support them in developing Ghana into an economic powerhouse. I hate a lot of people I work with in the US but we get the job done. People hate me too and that is a good thing because our brains are hopping on different frequencies.
Love or hate is anlogous to binary 1 or 0, live or die, day or night, negative or positive, they are all complement each other! There is time for everything. It is ok to hate or love, it is a state of mind, it doesn't matter what anybody things of you, it is what you think of yourself that matters.
The leadeship must provide for the people and stop enriching themselves and die like chickens and leave the money in unknown bank accounts all over the world...dimmies!
Most of these folks will not make it to 80 years in Ghana! You know why, the leaders including MPs are so stupid that they will not fix up hospitals in Ghana to international standards.
They would rather hop on a plane to someone else's hospital abroad for care because they are idiots! Call a spade a spade! An ambulance ride to the hospital makes more sense than international travel to hospitals. The stress of clearing immigration and customs will make your condition worse, hellooooo! Enough said!
Some people think that Benjamin Dedjoe is either a genius or a lunatic, but I think I am a combination of a little bit of both, or neither!
African leadership to me is worst than the head of chimpanzees in the wild managing resources of a depleting rain forest while faced with extinction!
BAD
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On Jul 24, 2012, at 11:02 PM, <k.danso@comcast.net> wrote:
Ben,
You are not making sense and showing bias.
Forget about religion and forget about NPP and NDC whether you like one or the other.
If Africa is all messed up then you can’t blame Mills and so can you also not blame Kufuor and all of them! That is a false premise!
Leadership is about solving problems, not taking over a smooth running operation!
What evidence do you have to believe sincerely that the good talk will provide good delivery form Mahama?
Look, I met Mahama close, a few feet away and listened to him and he is a very likeable man.
POINT is: CAN HE DELIVER?
In 2010 when he head of my one-man demonstration against ECG management, he summoned ECG, GRIDCO, GWCL, PURC together and lectured them about electricity delivery. What has he done after that?
This is how you judge people! Performance based on promises and not by liking them or not, for political and public office.
This is the time you guys need to read my book.
Kwaku A. Danso, M.Eng., PhD (Organization & Management/Leadership)
Livermore, California, USA & East Legon-Accra, Ghana
President - Ghana Leadership Union (NGO), Moderator-GLU and GLF Forums.
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From: glu-ghana-leadership-forum@googlegroups.com [mailto:glu-ghana-leadership-forum@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Benjamin Dedjoe
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Subject: Re: President John Mahama & Matters Arising
I fully support president Mahama. I listened to him on NPR and i was highly impressed, he is quiet an intelligent man! The rest of the clowns running for president can go to hell as far as I am concerned. The NPP will build more first class hotels on dirt roads with stolen money for white people to come to Ghana and use the plush hotels as tanning salons... To hell with the NPP and their cronies! I do not appreciate anyone stealing money and hurting their own people.
President Mahama, if you are out there listening, you have my support 200%. Atta Mills did the best he could! Africa is all messed up, it wasn't his fault. The Bible praying stuff doesn't work. It is time Ghanaians stop praying and start using technologies available them to improve their standard of living. Atta Mills could have been put on life support...or induced comma to help him recover but my fellow Ghanaians would rather resort to 2000 year old bible technology of praying to some white-Jesus-God that doesn't work in the 21st century. Maybe it worked 2000 years ago but now I believe it is of no use!
We shall all die someday; only time will tell!
Benjamin Dedjoe
Electricity-Wizard!
USA
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On Jul 24, 2012, at 7:38 PM, "Kwaku A. Danso" <dansojfk@gmail.com> wrote:
> Gilbert,
>
> This has never happened in Ghana and hence, don't expect the NDC to
> have written this down.
> However, I am sure if the Chiefs from the North leave the new
> President alone for a few hours to compose his thoughts, he will
> announce something good for the nation. This idea of Chiefs parading
> the residence and Castle with goats and sheep should be abolished right away!!
> I know somebody, two people, close to Mahama and Kufuor and they both
> tell me the same story of how many people are lined up at the house of
> the then VP and Kufuor as president and this culture must stop so the
> man can have some time to think!!
>
> I have received many calls from around the world since morning and I
> can assure you that what Mahama says and does in the next two days
> will decide the destiny of the NDC. If he shows that he is without
> PLAN, there will be continuation of the train that was going to the exit door.
> Mahama is a very nice and affable, likeable person. He has charisma.
> If however he demonstrates the kind of skills that the people are
> looking for, the NDC has a chance. If not, then forget it. They might
> as well hand over the keys to Paa Kwesi Nduom of the PPP, or Akufo
> Addo of the NPP, or Jacob Osei Yeboah (smile) of JOY2012 now!, err,
> err,, or Nana Konadu Agyeman Rawlings of the NDP.
>
> The show must continue, but ,,
>
>
> K. Danso
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: glu-ghana-leadership-forum@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:glu-ghana-leadership-forum@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
> Gilbert Salam
> Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 3:52 PM
> To: Kwaku Azar ; glu-ghana-leadership-forum@googlegroups.com ;
> enyankah@myzipnet.com ; okyeame@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: President John Mahama & Matters Arising
>
> Are there NDC member in the forum who can share with us how the
> Party's constitution deals with a dead nominee.
> Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kwaku Azar <kwakuazar@hotmail.com>
> Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 22:06:21
> To: <glu-ghana-leadership-forum@googlegroups.com>;
> <enyankah@myzipnet.com>; <okyeame@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: President John Mahama & Matters Arising
>
>
> It only kicks in if Mahama would have served for at least 2 years.
> Here, he would only serve till December and that is not counted as a term!
>
> On 7/24/12 5:57 PM, "Gilbert Salam" <gsalam87@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Azar: Where does John Mahama two term limit kicks in; will it
>> be when he was sworn in after Mills' death or it starts if he gets
>> his own mandate(elected)?
>> Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Kwaku Azar <kwakuazar@hotmail.com>
>> Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 21:36:37
>> To: <glu-ghana-leadership-forum@googlegroups.com>;
>> <enyankah@myzipnet.com>; <okyeame@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: Re: President John Mahama & Matters Arising
>>
>>
>> The Constitution is always very clear but we do not follow it. At no
>> point, does the Constitution allow a situation where we are without a
>> President or VP.
>>
>> So when he was coming in today, Mahama should have had a name for VP.
>> After his swearing in, the next thing would have been the approval by
>> Parliament of his VP and his swearing in.
>>
>> This is far fetched but we will have a crisis if President Mahama for
>> whatever reason was unable to perform his functions! These lapses
>> cannot and shouldn't be happening. We have too many smart people and
>> we really need to start thinking
>>
>> The new president/vp serve for the rest of the term of the dead
>> president.
>>
>> On 7/24/12 5:30 PM, "Gilbert Salam" <gsalam87@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Raymond what does constitution say about the death of a president
>>> in office; who becomes t
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Sometimes we decieve ourselves that we know our problems when in fact we do not...What's the optimal level of tariff to be levied to ensure efficiency in power production and distribution in Ghana?...Come on, y'all got to get real...Spending "infinity" years in a place at varied levels where you're not able to effect any significant change doesn't translate necessarily to thorough understanding of the problems and smart solutions thereof...
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Sent: Wednesday, August 1, 2012 2:05 AM
Subject: Re: Proposal to fix Ghana's Power Problems
Folks
Like I have said over and over again, the problems in Ghana's electrical system ARE all fixable.. we know what is wrong and we have the capability to fix them!!!
so why are having the problems? I can hear you saying/asking
well simple - there is not enough money by way of tariffs, the general populace always rejects tariff increases on the basis that service quality is low, that their pay is too low to absorb tariff increases, that the power boys are all thieves and steal the services & equipment through graft, corruption, ineptness, intolerable omissions and commissions, etc
On the side lines, the politicians play along the same path and play politics with the whole thing... so we get a nice vicious circle and cycle of mounting problems
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in the meantime, we do not manufacture anything except certain classes of cables, and a measly supply of wooden poles (for some points of the distribution network).. so without the tariffs, there are practically not enough resources to buy to maintain and sustain, not enough to build adequate network redundancy so that if a local transformer goes off, power is just re-routed via another transformer
I know because I spent nearly 30 years at the heart of it all, at all levels.
So People, this is not something to go blabbing your qualifications - because your diagnosis of the problem is fundamentally off-mark and completely a misfire of the real situation on the ground. I am sad that some of say this is a black-man induced problem and then hastily conclude that it is a white man who can be the saviour... Gosh, I am sure you did not mean it.
I do not want to assume that you guys are among the folks who are "experts" but work in very narrow areas of responsibility, but do not have any true view of the biger picture and how it all grinds together. Please know that being an expert engineer, finance or other professional does not make you a master of thinking and analysis. Many people do not even appreciate the issues and then they jump into the fray.
The final thing is that sometimes the situation gets so bad that it costs less to leave a problem to linger than to fix it immediately.. Isn't that a paradox!!!!
Bla Elik
As I have often
At 11:58 PM 7/31/2012, Kwame Dwamena Dakwa wrote:
Ben:
Nice proposal. But don't you think Ghanaians are aware of the electrical problems
they face?
Anyways, here is a general list of the average pay of electrical power engineers.
http://www.payscale.com/research/US/Job=Electric_Power_Engineer/Salary
So how do you justify the $1,500 per/hr you requested in the proposal? Or is this
a Woyomization scheme?
nkosuo,
KDD
- Paul,
- Peace out!
- Benjamin Dedjoe
- Electrical Power Guru
- USA
- Paul,
- K. Danso
- Bro Kwaku,
- -Paul
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- Ben,
- K. Danso
- Kweku,
- danso @comcast.net> wrote:
- Ben,
You are not making sense and showing bias.
Forget about religion and forget about NPP and NDC whether you like one or the other.
If Africa is all messed up then you can’t blame Mills and so can you also not blame Kufuor and all of them! That is a false premise!
Leadership is about solving problems, not taking over a smooth running operation!
What evidence do you have to believe sincerely that the good talk will provide good delivery form Mahama?
Look, I met Mahama close, a few feet away and listened to him and he is a very likeable man.
POINT is: CAN HE DELIVER?
In 2010 when he head of my one-man demonstration against ECG management, he summoned ECG, GRIDCO, GWCL, PURC together and lectured them about electricity delivery. What has he done after that?
This is how you judge people! Performance based on promises and not by liking them or not, for political and public office.
This is the time you guys need to read my book.
Kwaku A. Danso, M.Eng., PhD (Organization & Management/Leadership)
Livermore, California, USA & East Legon-Accra, Ghana
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Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 6:53 PM
- To: glu-ghana-leadership-forum@googlegroups .com
Subject: Re: President John Mahama & Matters Arising
I fully support president Mahama. I listened to him on NPR and i was highly impressed, he is quiet an intelligent man! The rest of the clowns running for president can go to hell as far as I am concerned. The NPP will build more first class hotels on dirt roads with stolen money for white people to come to Ghana and use the plush hotels as tanning salons... To hell with the NPP and their cronies! I do not appreciate anyone stealing money and hurting their own people.
President Mahama, if you are out there listening, you have my support 200%. Atta Mills did the best he could! Africa is all messed up, it wasn't his fault. The Bible praying stuff doesn't work. It is time Ghanaians stop praying and start using technologies available them to improve their standard of living. Atta Mills could have been put on life support...or induced comma to help him recover but my fellow Ghanaians would rather resort to 2000 year old bible technology of praying to some white-Jesus-God that doesn't work in the 21st century. Maybe it worked 2000 years ago but now I believe it is of no use!
We shall all die someday; only time will tell!
- Benjamin Dedjoe
- Electricity-Wizard!
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Your response was superfluous at best trivial...Did you see the "we" in my statement?...What are you talking about?...
And what are the circumstances preventing your so-called knowlegeable people from executing intelligent solutions to simple problems?...
CD,
Some people have suggested we should let the youth run the nation.
Here we go!
They just don’t understand their own nation yet and the problems.
Ben simply does not get it.
He assumes all the culture of doing business and running the government is like in America and the people just don’t know what to do.
Look, my own nephew is very high up there and one day I was on phone with him when he told me who manufacturers what parts and prices in Canada, etc. When he was promoted my uncle told him not to tell me,, and only until recently I found out. Even when he brought a big SUV to my house he did not tell me it was given to him for his position and said it was a World Bank project they were working on. Later our older uncle told me not to even communicate with him again since they can even remove him from his position if they found out he is related to me!
Can you imagine this kind of mafia situation!!
How can Ben think that if he goes to Ghana they will listen to his recommendations, as if its only technical!! I have told Ben this but he refuses to believe it.
It is the Administrators, the Ministers, and the President that bear the blame! Even raising the tariffs for different areas he said the PURC cannot do it because it is political.
I have patience for Ben because I know exactly how he feels. Prof. George Ayittey used to feel the same, insulting African leaders, but it never amounts to anything until the people themselves take power. If I were younger and in Ghana, I know for sure something would crack. However I feel the Ghanaians have not suffered enough. Our extended family system makes people have a place to sleep and so people are not really that angry. I have 5 nephews in the late 20s to 30s, and 1 younger brother in his 40s who are hanging around the house in Madina, bringing in nothing and yet eating and sleeping with no rent and no share of the bills. Yes they help around the house but ,, In America or UK if your neighbor loses his job, he will be homeless and cannot come and ask to sleep in your living room. People in Ghana do not believe there are homeless people in America. If even 20 people walked up to ECG every day with major complaints, and 10 per week went to the Ministers, things might change, but nobody in Ghana ever thinks of these. At best they stay on Radio and talk.
I think sometimes the President should be arrested and his balls shopped off,,,, but of course we have to get a court injunction and order to do that,, and under our democracy it will demand Parliament to approve the new order to do that ,,and the Speaker owes allegiance to the President,,and the courts wait till the laws are made,, and well,, on such days I think of nobody but uncle Chaka Zulu to be born among us!!
One day!! One day! If Lee Kuan Yew does not show up, trust me Chaka Zulu will!! That will be the day of reckoning. As Jesus said, there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth. I will shed no tears at all if the President and 50 MPs and 20 Ministers were hung or impaled on stakes one day at the Post Office square! No tears at all! It will be a pleasure to see the vultures have fun on their bones!
K. Danso
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Subject: Re: [Nia_for_Ghana] RE: President John Mahama & Matters Arising
What saddens me about some of these lengthy arguments is that it exposes a lot of people as knowing very little about Ghanaian society and the way it operates.
For instance, some people assume that Ghana experiences power cuts because the people in charge of electricity do not KNOW how to run a power station
effectively. Nothing could be farther from the truth. Many of them are extremely well qualified and some have had hands-on experience obtained from some of the most advanced countries.
What cripples their expertise is the blocking, by admnistrators, of their budgetary requirements. I am not an engineer, but when I take my car to the workshop and they tell me my battery has fallen because the alternator is defective, there is no way I am going to say, "I can afford a new battery but not a new alternator." If these guys take their estimates to their administrators and the estimates are constantly whittled down, by administrators who0 value motor cars and private planes more than they value the provision of excellent power and water and communications services to the nation, what can they do?
If they lived in a tolerant society, they would take their case public and explain why they need, say, a transformer in addition to the generfator they have been allowed to purchase. But if they went public in Ghana, they would be chased out of office and their families would be thrown out of their bungalows. So they keep quiet and try to "make do" with what they are given.
That is the reality that is killing Ghana -- stupid political-cum-administrative bosses who are gradually killing some of the best-trained technocrats in the world.
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Subject: Re: [Nia_for_Ghana] RE: President John Mahama & Matters Arising
Although I believe that the best people for politics are the ones who have already made some money before entering the fray, I am always wary of those who volunteer information about their wealth and pedigree (academic or otherwise) so frequently and openly.
Nana Kweku, you are right on the money about someone tooting their own horns! It's unpalatable. It makes something good smell bad.
-Paul
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Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 1:54:32 AM
Subject: Re: [Nia_for_Ghana] RE: President John Mahama & Matters Arising
This is one of the few cases in which I might actively campaign against a person who runs for a
campaign for office. Although I believe that the best people for politics are the ones who have already made some money before entering the fray, I am always wary of those who volunteer information about their wealth and pedigree (academic or otherwise) so frequently and openly.
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On Jul 31, 2012, at 12:06 AM, Benjamin Dedjoe <dedjoe@yahoo.com> wrote:
Paul,
I do not need complements from you. I know my stuff and a well respected man in power engineering in the USA. By the way, I am the one and only Ghanaian-American senior electrical engineer working for the US government. You can check the facts you......,,,,don't make me finish this sentence!
Ghana is a total mess that is why I continue to throw insults when I can to awaken those of you sleeping at the wheel consciousness!
I do not have a dog in this fight okay. White people love me because I am smart, hard working and I always get the mission accomplished and I am not a thief, got that! You will rather get a Ghanaian who will connive and condone with the thieves! I am not begging for work, just doing my country of birth a favor. In case you don't know power engineers are in high demand in the US. There are only 28,000 certified power engineers in the world and I am one of the few and the proud. I am wealthy and I do not need stolen money from Ghana to feed my family, you got that!
The guy I could not pick up at the airport wants to build power plants and he wants me to come to Ghana and beg them for 'god' knows what! He is a mechanical engineer who doesn't know much about electric power generation, transmission and distribution, protection schemes, power control and reliability systems and so on and so forth...Ghana is in the stone age when it comes to modern power infrastructure. This is who I am, I will not change my attitude for you or anyone else...My brain works like a high voltage switch; it is either on or off. Bring it on!
Good luck finding that Ghanaian power engineer who will kiss your asssssss!
Love you all in total darkness with your stone age mentality!
Peace out!
Benjamin Dedjoe
Electrical Power Guru
USA
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On Jul 30, 2012, at 6:09 PM, "Kwaku A. Danso" <k.danso@comcast.net> wrote:
Paul,
“Every man has his price”,
says the great Howard Hughes.
If I am the President of Ghana and need to have a job done in 6 months that would take Ghanaians 2 years and another 4 years, and another 10 years, and never get done as they have done to our electricity, Water and Accra-Kumais0Takoradi Highway development that have lasted over 40 years after Nkrumah left and not completed to date despite billions in loans, I’d rather call Ben as Project Manager.
Ben cannot survive as an employee in Ghana - that is for sure. I did a 3-way with him and my friend who was the ECG Chairman, Dr. Kwaku Osafo, and we learned that they are looking to pay somebody about $15,000 per year to do the work. However, as we all know, the crab-in-a-bucket principle indicates they will never give it to a Ghanaian, unless you are part of their party and have made substantial contributions or referral. I know another Ghanaian who is in the private sector, in Power Installations for major cities in North America, but he said his own brother advised him to forget Ghana.
Ghana needs to connect the right electricity equipment within 56 months. Who can do the job? Period!
See, somebody like Ben will have to be reporting directly to somebody like me if I am President since I know what can be done and how long it will take and can crack a whip. Not to be mean but there are some of our people in government who still think electricity is a major mystery (and of course we know it is but so is all Science to them), and so is Water Treatment plants, good concrete highways, and beyond the means and knowledge of the black man. You just can’t fool me after all these years in America No way! What haven’t I seen before, in 10 major corporations and on my own for another 15-20 years? A major highway in our area collapsed that was handling over 200,000 vehicles per day and they needed a contractor. One company took the contract and in 19 days had the whole concrete highway with all the connections installed tested and working! Ahead of schedule. These are the kind of jobs you call men like Ben. These men of the US Army Corps of Engineers demand hyperactive men and workers! In other words, when I call Ben to do a job, I don’t care for his nice words, courtesy, diplomacy, etc. All I care is that he can kick some a** and get the job done within the time frame needed, or else I kick his butt! Sorry but that’s the way American Engineers talk.
We don’t need to love Ben. His wife gives him enough love. I sincerely believe based on what I have read about him he can get the job done,, and to heck with diplomacy. It is the Ghanaians in high office who have a problem and if I were in charge like Mahama now, trust that in the last 3 days I’d have put FIRE already!! I’d fire lots of them and put some in jail!! After all you can’t be Vice President without knowing or having thought about all your visions before the date comes. Mahama would be lying or a wimp if he cannot be awaken at 3am and make decisions! (as Hillary once alluded to).
K. Danso
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Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 8:38 AM
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Ben, don’t worry too much – I will have you climbing a electricity pole very soon in Ghana to help us out.
Bro Kwaku,
Unless Ben has work ethics that is different from what has been displayed on this net, it will not be a wise idea to support him for a project in Ghana. It's one think working as an engineer in a firm or in the army and another thing working as a contractor for a nation. Ben's choice of words will be a disaster! And remember he failed to make the appointment when you connected him with someone in Ghana (was it the minister of energy or someone like that)? There are other qualified or better qualified Ghana engineers living in the US that can help.
-Paul
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> [mailto:glu-ghana-leadership-forum@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
> Gilbert Salam
> Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 3:52 PM
> To: Kwaku Azar ; glu-ghana-leadership-forum@googlegroups.com ;
> Subject: Re: President John Mahama & Matters Arising
>
> Are there NDC member in the forum who can share with us how the
> Party's constitution deals with a dead nominee.
> Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kwaku Azar <kwakuazar@hotmail.com>
> Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 22:06:21
> Subject: Re: President John Mahama & Matters Arising
>
>
> It only kicks in if Mahama would have served for at least 2 years.
> Here, he would only serve till December and that is not counted as a term!
>
> On 7/24/12 5:57 PM, "Gilbert Salam" <gsalam87@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Azar: Where does John Mahama two term limit kicks in; will it
>> be when he was sworn in after Mills' death or it starts if he gets
>> his own mandate(elected)?
>> Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Kwaku Azar <kwakuazar@hotmail.com>
>> Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 21:36:37
>> Subject: Re: President John Mahama & Matters Arising
>>
>>
>> The Constitution is always very clear but we do not follow it. At no
>> point, does the Constitution allow a situation where we are without a
>> President or VP.
>>
>> So when he was coming in today, Mahama should have had a name for VP.
>> After his swearing in, the next thing would have been the approval by
>> Parliament of his VP and his swearing in.
>>
>> This is far fetched but we will have a crisis if President Mahama for
>> whatever reason was unable to perform his functions! These lapses
>> cannot and shouldn't be happening. We have too many smart people and
>> we really need to start thinking
>>
>> The new president/vp serve for the rest of the term of the dead
>> president.
>>
>> On 7/24/12 5:30 PM, "Gilbert Salam" <gsalam87@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Raymond what does constitution say about the death of a president
>>> in office; who becomes t
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