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Emmanuel Osei-Akoto

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Aug 26, 2010, 6:08:46 AM8/26/10
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Hi Googlers. What do you think about forming Linux Users Ghana here.
Please provide your comments and suggestions so we can debate on it
ASAP.

Thank You.

No Windows | No Gates --> Is Free | No Bills

Jimmy Ilenloa

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Aug 26, 2010, 7:42:03 AM8/26/10
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I think it's a good idea. What will be the objective of the group if it is formed?

Lorenzo Cabrini

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Aug 26, 2010, 11:12:30 AM8/26/10
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Il giorno gio, 26/08/2010 alle 03.08 -0700, Emmanuel Osei-Akoto ha
scritto:

There are already several Linux User Groups available in Accra Alone.
The ones that I know of that are active are LinuxAccra (meetings at
AITI, Saturdays) and Legon Linux Users Group (meetings at Legon, not
sure of the day). There is also Ghoss (Ghana Open Source Society, which
is somewhat dormant at the moment ;-). Moreover, there are several LUGs
in other regions. Some active, some less so. Not to mention other groups
that are not LUGs as such, but passionate about open source. Here I
include Accra.rb (Ruby Users Group), AJUG (Java User Group), both fairly
dormant right now.

At the moment I think there are too few users to justify three different
groups, unless the scope of the new group is fundamentally different
from the others. Otherwise I think it would be a better idea
to join one of the existing groups. Fragmentation of the still
relatively small open source community won't benefit anybody.

Lorenzo


Prince Annan Koomson

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Aug 26, 2010, 11:39:52 AM8/26/10
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There is also Open Source Ghana which is an online based user group no meeting place available yet.
So many groups maybe Tamale User Group will be reasonable, Lets join the Old Groups to make them stand instead of bringing more groups which are not active.
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Aug 26, 2010, 12:11:20 PM8/26/10
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I really do agree with Lorenzo and I think we should help make those that are
there to becoming something better. Most importantly we should try also to
change the style and ways of those that we have so that they can be maintain.
I really know what I'm talking about. :D WiLUG

Wisdom Donkor

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Aug 26, 2010, 1:25:26 PM8/26/10
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I think is not a good idea since there are several linux groups in Ghana. am currently
a member of Linux Accra for which we meet every Saturday at the Ghana-India Kofi Annan Advance Information Technology Institute
which have even produce so many users working with big companies in the world.

WISDOM DONKOR




Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 08:39:52 -0700
Subject: Re: Linux Updates
From: anna...@gmail.com
To: ghana...@googlegroups.com

emmanuel eshun-davies

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Aug 26, 2010, 8:03:33 PM8/26/10
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Emmanuel Osei-Akoto>> is there any reason in particular you want to or
is considering the idea of a new linux group in GH. Cos I think there
may be a lot alright but maybe something aint going right for you. Am
not in any LUGs" so i cnt put up a speech for or against it but i hear
and read things. :-D

On 8/26/10, Wisdom Donkor <wisd...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> I think is not a good idea since there are several linux groups in Ghana. am
> currently
> a member of Linux Accra for which we meet every Saturday at the Ghana-India
> Kofi Annan Advance Information Technology Institute
> which have even produce so many users working with big companies in the
> world.
>
> WISDOM DONKOR
>
>
>

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nukturnal

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Aug 27, 2010, 2:04:14 AM8/27/10
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Hello everyone out there trying hard to bring technology to the
masses. There is a very wide spectrum of options, interests and
strengths when technology is in question, its the beauty of what
technology truely is.

What most people forget about, is that, Ghana as a country, frankly
does not have a significant hardcore techy base when the demographics
of techology is in play. This makes the Techy groups inefficient and
defeats thier purpose, this further puts too much pressure on the very
few leaders in those respective areas, since it becomes more and more
like they are the only people contributing and everyone else is just
listening.

I believe coming under one umberlla will be the way forward for Tech
in Ghana, that way everyone can leverage on interesting discussions
coming from a wider spectrum of techy guys whiles we all dont suffer
from too small group sizes. Coming under one umbrella creates room for
developers to get a wider experience from many specialist areas.

Its true most of us want to be specialists in our fields, so why
bother with this large range, well the truth is that, there wont be
much to discuss when your area alone is in question, take the Ruby
group Ghana, I have not seen any discussions online so far (because
the user base is bloody insignificant), and besides technology cant
work in isolation, so why not take the oportunity to broaden your
horizone with discussions from other areas. I would not mind to come
and listen to an AppEngine Discussion even though I currently dont
work with it, at least it could give me a deeper understanding and
appreciation of what App Engine really is, plus I might get to know
exactly when to take advantage of it. it wouldnt hurt if a PHP
programmer listened to a Linux discussion, there could be few things
he might discover. Most developers in Ghana isolate technology too
much and it unfortunatley blocks thier ability to think outside the
box because they dont seem to have many options on thier hands when
they plan out to achieve something.

So instead of having a 3 member Ruby group, 2 member Unix Group, 20
member Linux Group, 10 member Google Group, 1 Member Perl group, 0
Member JQuery Group why dont we have 36 total member Ghana Tech group
which can benefit from a wider spectrum of ideas and knowlegde.

Regards,
Alfred Rowe.
http://ncodedevlabs.com
http://blog.ncodedevlabs.com

On Aug 26, 5:25 pm, Wisdom Donkor <wisdom...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> I think is not a good idea since there are several linux groups in Ghana. am currently
> a member of Linux Accra for which we meet every Saturday at the Ghana-India Kofi Annan Advance Information Technology Institute
> which have even produce so many users working with big companies in the world.
>
> WISDOM DONKOR
>
> Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 08:39:52 -0700
> Subject: Re: Linux Updates
> From: annan...@gmail.com
> To: ghana...@googlegroups.com
>
> There is also Open Source Ghana which is an online based user group no meeting place available yet.
> So many groups maybe Tamale User Group will be reasonable, Lets join the Old Groups to make them stand instead of bringing more groups which are not active.
>
> PAK,
> 'I can't buy a windows which doesn't open'
> When Open Source Matters'
> Open Source Movements
>

Lorenzo Cabrini

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Aug 27, 2010, 4:53:55 AM8/27/10
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Il giorno gio, 26/08/2010 alle 23.04 -0700, nukturnal ha scritto:
> Hello everyone out there trying hard to bring technology to the
> masses. There is a very wide spectrum of options, interests and
> strengths when technology is in question, its the beauty of what
> technology truely is.
>
> What most people forget about, is that, Ghana as a country, frankly
> does not have a significant hardcore techy base when the demographics
> of techology is in play. This makes the Techy groups inefficient and
> defeats thier purpose, this further puts too much pressure on the very
> few leaders in those respective areas, since it becomes more and more
> like they are the only people contributing and everyone else is just
> listening.

Agree.

I agree to a large extent. I am unhappy with having many small,
fragmented groups, for much the same reasons as you mention. However, I
think the opposite extreme, to have one single "tech" group, 1)
impractical in reality and 2) not even desirable. I have two primary
reasons for thinking so.

The first one is geographic. If we have a single tech group, where is it
going to hold its activities? In Accra? I would certainly agree, but
what about people who are not in Accra? Do we neglect them? Do we expect
them to bear the costs of coming to Accra evey time we decide to hold an
event? (If anybody thinks "online", think again.)

The second is scope. I expect the activities of a Java User Group to be
significantly different from the activities of a Linux User Group. If we
have a single "tech group" and a few of us decide to dedicate three
months to nothing but LISP, I surely wouldn't mind, but what about all
those members who are not interested in LISP, possibly not even in
programming at all (Linux/BSD/OpenSolaris/etc groups will have such
members).

That being said, I really agree with your point about developers
isolating technologies too much. In fact, I *strongly* agree. However,
LinuxAccra has always been a group that has acted as an "entry-level"
group. Most new members to LinuxAccra know little, if anything at all
about Linux. They've heard about Linux and are curious to know more.
This of course leads to a lot of introductory sessions, something that
doesn't appeal to more advanced Linuxers.

A Java user group, on the other hand, has a more specific scope. I
wouldn't expect somebody who has no knowledge of UNIX to show up at a
JUG meeting.

Maybe my choice of the word "scope" is a poor one, just that I'm not
sure of what else I can use. Historically, LinuxAccra has tried to
appeal to "the general public", ie. people who know little or nothing
about Linux. To these people we have offered standard introductions to
Linux, the desktop (with the standard flamefests about whether Gnome or
KDE is better for new users, whether Vi is better than Emacs or Emacs is
worse than Vi, etc), OpenOffice, etc. I think this is an important part
of what LinuxAccra does: introducing Linux. But, by putting so much
focus on this, we have lost most of the more experienced linuxers who
were looking for something more in-depth and challenging than "to start
OpenOffice, click on the icon in your panel". So they lost interest.
Some of them went off to form new groups, with a different scope.

In the case of LinuxAccra and Legon LUG, there are specific reasons for
why the two exist. Several LinuxAccra members were present when Legon
LUG was formed and we supported it. We thought it a good thing that
Legon should have its own LUG. The member counts of each group is small
(especially if you count *active* members), but I don't think either
group would necessarily want the two to merge. I think several Legon LUG
members are willing to attend meetings at campus, but if they have to go
all the way to AITI for a two-hour meeting...

What I do think, and I've argued about for years, is that it could be
useful to have a system of coordination between all the groups. This
could be as simple as a web site (kindly hosted by Google? ;-), which
would act as a directory of tech-oriented groups, as well as a place
where we could organize/announce common events (like Software Freedom
Day).

Prince Annan Koomson

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Aug 27, 2010, 8:45:20 AM8/27/10
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ATTN: Alfred Rowe.
http://ncodedevlabs.com
http://blog.ncodedevlabs.com

I dont understand your long essay.
Is that a new group u are suggesting or you are commenting on the
subject a new group "Ghana Linux User Group".
Please with pleasure kindly summerise it so we will know the bus stop
you are arriving.

gideon makus

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Aug 27, 2010, 10:47:22 AM8/27/10
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If i understand right we have linux groups like the Accra, i don't know if there are any so u saying we should form a nation wide user group. 

gidmakus

nukturnal

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Aug 28, 2010, 5:41:26 AM8/28/10
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You put my arguments right, I think thats exactly what I was trying to
say. Its still very important specialized groups must be formed whiles
a mother group becomes the embodiment of all. My deepest argument for
such a national body goes beyond the techy code talks, its high time
tech people in Ghana had a bigger representation, this will give us
the unified strength needed to create a better technological landscape
in this country, too often than not, our government takes decisions on
technology that is to the detriment of everyone, and its time all tech
groups realized how certain policies and laws can limit their growth
and dreams.

Let me give a small example. VOIP technology was for a long time
"illegal" in this country, CEOs from startup ISPs Mark Telecom,
Intercom Data Network (IDN) and Tin-Ifa Ghana Ltd were sent to prison
over this issue (even though they were aquatinted later because the
government could not properly argue their case or show any evidence).
Their equipments were seized and never returned which caused the
collapse of Mark Telecom whiles Intercom Data Network (IDN) and Tin-
Ifa Ghana Ltd got back into business after buying new equipments. Full
Details can be downloaded in this document http://www.ncodedevlabs.com/negotiating-the-net.pdf
(Written By William Foster and Eric M.K Osiakwan, 2004)

It was a long story but my point here is that all these things
happened because Ghana Telecom now Vodafone was owned by the
government back then, and they had a monopoly market, they used to
make a lot of revenue from international (outbound) calls from Ghana,
they also leased internet services to other ISPs just like today. So
when Ghana Telecom realized the revenue on International Calls dropped
drastically they forced the government to believe these ISPs were
"bypassing" their networks and allowing people to still communicate
overseas at cheaper rates. The government armed with misinformation
took matters into another direction and completely out lawed the
technology or pretty much made sure it was very difficult to make a
mass impact with it.

So if a genius was somewhere in a room busy working on something great
with VOIP to come out with, he/she will be largely limited and
frustrated, nobody wants a brush with the government on any given day.
This defeats the purpose of good technology, and that is, bringing to
the masses a better, easier, useful and cost effective way of doing
something, the big players in this country will continue to squeeze
out good and cheaper technology once it threatens their revenue
margins and they will use the government to do that, because most
often than not there is no independent body that can advice or argue
any technology matter concerning the people of this country. So the
larger population continues to suffer for these mistakes.

A bigger body will gain a better national recognition, and can argue
when certain policies are implemented, we must begin to realize that
most of what everyone can pretty much do with technology is within the
defined scope of every government where this technology will be used,
so why sit down and allow a mis informed person block out everyone
else?. I have seen too many bright young Ghanaians leave the shores of
this country because they system frustrates them and does not create a
conducive environment for them to work in. We need to protect this
industry from people who will stop at anything to create and ere of
uncertainty, doubt, disbelieve and fear to prevent people from
bringing good, cheap and useful technology to the doorsteps of
everyone in this country.

I respect every little tech group out there, my only problem is that 3
people with no big backing can't make any impression on the government
of the day to take a decision even if they had a really good point, we
need the mass. We need to grow a better tech culture in this country.

Wisdom Donkor

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Insert Java Script Date in PHP Echo Statement Hi all,

i was hoping for some technical help using php and mysql.

I have a simple database connected (mysql) and website (php/html).

A form of this website involves me inputting a date field in it. i have created a date function using the following javascript code:

var todaysdate = new Date();
year = todaysdate.getFullYear();
month = todaysdate.getMonth();
date = todaysdate.getDate();
day = todaysdate.getDay();

var monthname = new Array("01","02","03","04","05","06","07","08","09","10","11","12");
var dayname = new Array("Sunday","Monday","Tuesday","Wednesday","Thursday","Friday","Saturday");


The date is inserted into the webpage using the following code:

<script language="JavaScript" type="text/javascript">
<ocument.writeln(year+"-"+monthname[month]+"-"+date);
</script>.

Basically i want to be able to insert this javascript date (by default) into the date field of my form, using the php echo method, if it is possible????


Example:

<ocument.writeln(year+"-"+monthname[month]+"-"+date);
</script> ?>

Please help as this is doing my head in!!!!!

Thank You


WISDOM DONKOR



> Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 05:45:20 -0700
> Subject: Re: Linux Updates
> From: anna...@gmail.com
> To: ghana...@googlegroups.com

Nana Kwabena Agyei-Owusu

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hi wisdom,
                 all databases have their own formats for handling dates, you should take that into consideration. you could do <input type="text" value="<?php echo date("Y-m-d"); ?>" /> . if you have to just insert the current date and time you could use the NOW() function in mysql also "insert into yourtable(date_column) values (NOW())".

one

emmanuel eshun-davies

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It would have been much simpler if u used the date() function in php.
Put it into a variable say
$date = date();
then where u wnt to echo the date use this;
echo $date;
refer to ur php manual for a complete list on how to use the date()
function right. Or visit php.net
amazing js codes though... :-O

happy coding man! :-D

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emmanuel eshun-davies

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Sep 1, 2010, 1:22:52 PM9/1/10
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Oh yea 1 more thing, check ur js code around "document.write" typos u
missed a "d". it culd be the problem. I get that sometimes (every1
does)... :)

On 9/1/10, emmanuel eshun-davies <moonwa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> It would have been much simpler if u used the date() function in php.
> Put it into a variable say
> $date = date();
> then where u wnt to echo the date use this;
> echo $date;
> refer to ur php manual for a complete list on how to use the date()
> function right. Or visit php.net
> amazing js codes though... :-O
>
> happy coding man! :-D
>
> On 9/1/10, Wisdom Donkor <wisd...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>

Prince Annan Koomson

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Wisdom i dont know what you really want but check the code underneath if it answers you question if not kindly let the grou know ASAP.
---------------------------------
<?php
echo 'For Wisdom'.'<br />';
?>

<html>
<head>
<title>Your First Application</title>
</head>


<script  language="JavaScript" type="text/javascript">

var todaysdate = new Date();
year = todaysdate.getFullYear();
month = todaysdate.getMonth();
date = todaysdate.getDate();
day = todaysdate.getDay();

var monthname = new Array("01","02","03","04","05","06","07","08","09","10","11","12");
var dayname = new Array("Sunday","Monday","Tuesday","Wednesday","Thursday","Friday","Saturday");
document.writeln(year+"-"+monthname[month]+"-"+date);
</script>
<body>
</body>
</html>
--------------------------------------
Save the file .php

Jimmy Ilenloa

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Hi Wisdom,

Good day! I understand you are trying to insert a javascript date into one of your form fields. You need to understand something about these two technologies: JavaScript and PHP. JavaScript is client side scripting language and PHP is server side. The JavaScript is not executed at server side and so the JavaScript date value cannot be available to the PHP code. Another way I could put this that you may understand, is to say that the PHP codes are executed first before the JavaScript, and so the JavaScript values are not visible to the PHP codes.

The recommended way of doing what you intended, is to use JavaScript to also set the value of the form field to the date value you created.
If you have an input field like this residing in a form (it is recommended that the form has a name).
<form name="myform">
<input type="text" name="datefield" />
....

In your JavaScript, replace

<ocument.writeln(year+"-"+monthname[month]+"-"+date);
with
window.onload = function(){
	document.forms['myform'].elements['datefield'].value = year+"-"+monthname[month]+"-"+date;
}
Please feel free to ask questions regarding this if you have any.

Thank you.

Wisdom Donkor

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 WHO CAN HELP SOLVE THIS QUESTION


The fibonacci series is given by 0, 1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 13, 21, 34, 55, ...
1
  (i) Write pseudocode to generate the first 100 terms of this series.
  (ii) Modify your solution to generate the first n terms of this series.
  Write an algorithm to compute the factorial of a number and print
2
  the result.
  Hints:
       n!=n*(n-1)*(n-2)*...*3*2*1
       0!=1!=1
       5!=5*4*3*2

Raymond Etornam

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This is not a forum to solve your school work. This looks like a question from one of Dr Aquah's classes.

Sent from my iPhone

Edward Amartey-Tagoe

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I suggest you try your luck with Google Baraza. I'm pretty sure you
will get some cool assistance.


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gideon makus

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Nov 12, 2010, 2:53:00 AM11/12/10
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Please guys i don't think there is a need to specify what this forum is created for this is something that is meant for idea sharing and expressing our views. I support any post except using it as a personal  vendetta. If is a joke i also don't mean to counter attack anybody

Back to the question in what language will u want it bro...

Emmanuel Osei-Akoto

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Nov 12, 2010, 5:55:59 AM11/12/10
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Well is Good to be sharing Ideas. That is all what open source and standards are about.
Try this for your second question.

int f=1, i;

    for(i=x; i>=1; i--);
    {
        f=f*i;

        return (f);
    }

NOTE
I just wrote this when I saw the mail.  Is C and don't hesitate to ask anything.
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gideon makus

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Nov 12, 2010, 6:24:24 AM11/12/10
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Fibonacci series // pseudocode
I)

Assgin value 1 each to x and y

print x and y seperated by ","

declare a variable say (i) for loop

for(initialize i =1;limit for 100 terms;incrementa value)
Assign variable say z to the sum of x and y // z = x + y
Assign x to y // x = y

Assign y to z // y = z

print z separated by ","

end for 

for the ii) add a line to accept user input  to loop a number of terms...


php 

$x = 1;  

echo $x.",";

$y = 1;

echo $y.","; //  change the display keyword for the preferred language

for($i=0; $i<=10; $i++) {

$z = $x + $y;

$x = $y;

$y = $z;

echo $z.","; // change the display keyword for the preferred language



On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 6:41 PM, Wisdom Donkor <wisd...@hotmail.com> wrote:

Wisdom Donkor

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thanks


Algorithm Example 3

Example

Design an algorithm which will prompt an operator for a student’s

exam score out of 100. Your program is then to match the exam score

to a letter grade and print the grade to the screen. The letter grade is

to be calculated as follows:


Exam Score           Grade

90 and above         A

80 - 89                    B

70 - 79                    C

60 - 69                    D

50 - 59                    E

below 50                F



Solution:

Input:     Exam score
Process: Determine Score
Output:  Grade

var e_score;
e_score = get (score)
if e_score >= 90
grade 'A'
else if e_score >= 80 or e_score < 90
Grade 'B'
else if e_score >= 70 or e_score < 80
Grade 'C'
else if e_score >= 60 or e_score < 70
Grade 'D'
else if e_score >= 50 or e_score < 60
Grade 'E'
else
Grade 'F'
End if
Display Grade

WISDOM DONKOR




Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2010 10:55:59 +0000
Subject: Re: HELP SOLVE QUESTIONS
From: eosei...@gmail.com
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Jojoo Imbeah

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Nov 12, 2010, 8:00:37 AM11/12/10
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Hi Gideon,
Relax :) I think Raymond was trying to make sure Wisdom isn't being lazy. Raymond attended KNUST, and has good grounds for his suspicions.

After you and Emmanuel answered Wisdom, Wisdom has posted another question :) Do you realize what's happening? Wisdom is wisely using your brains for his homework ;). It is ok if you do not mind solving Wisdom's homework problems, but I think it is more constructive for you to assist him rather than spoonfeed him, see? 

Jojoo

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emmanuel eshun-davies

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Nov 12, 2010, 8:07:41 AM11/12/10
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# laughter in php (license: free to use anywhere anyhow)

# define variable
$laughter = LMAO

# action
while (Emmanuel == LaughingAtVictimsOfWisdom)
{
echo $laughter;
} else {
echo "hahhahahahahahahahhahahahahahahah! oh oh oh oh!
hahahhahahahahahahhahhahahahahahaha";
}


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emmanuel eshun-davies

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Nov 12, 2010, 8:11:33 AM11/12/10
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yaaay! I think my "Open Source" php laughter code has got errors...
who will help me fix it?
hahahhahahahahahahahahhahahaha

sorry guys, I cnt help sharing my laughter... hehehehe hahahhaha hohohohoho lol

gideon makus

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Nov 12, 2010, 8:36:51 AM11/12/10
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That is fun i can debug it 

:-) haa ahaa 

i also have an error 
// error need a new programming language to debug  who can continue is should be open source 

end of :-;

Raymond Etornam

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Give a man fish and you help him live for a day, teach him to fish and u feed him for a lifetime. Think about it.

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emmanuel eshun-davies

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Nov 12, 2010, 8:50:16 AM11/12/10
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We need us a personal Baraza! lol

Wisdom Donkor

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Nov 17, 2010, 10:00:03 AM11/17/10
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Hi guys am not a class one boy and not a student. so stop saying wisdom is being lazy.
posting questions doesnt mean wisdom is lazy and cant solve the question, i did solve the second
question before posting. i thought u guys no the essence of open source.

How do u mean by the word  spoon feed.  i dont think i belong to this group.




WISDOM DONKOR




Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2010 13:00:37 +0000

Subject: Re: HELP SOLVE QUESTIONS

Prince Annan Koomson

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Nov 17, 2010, 1:35:41 PM11/17/10
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This is not a matter of spoon feed, you know that is how Ghanaian culture is, anybody who knows something small want to brag not knowing there is a difference between, txt + = 1; some languages may concat some may add depending on the way u define it.
One group i am part of c-p...@yahoogroups.com one guy in spain posted a question of SWAP and he is seriously in need of simply solution to swap, all of the members posted the solution including me, one guy from nigeria posted a perfect solution to swap, which means even our lectures make some mistakes we don't even know, what is the issue if someone ask for a simple solution, the so called geeks and gurus should try to help, that is the benefit of groups. if Google try to make their maps closed who are you to use their API's? Remember sharing is caring... When Open source Matters...
Wisdom i am so sorry i blame myself, i am the cause of all this things, next time i will try and help, before sending it to such a group.
Been so busy... i have alot of projects on me which i have deadline, i have less sleeping hours.
I will meet you this saturday LAUG and solve it in Pseudo code and C Language...
NB: Know where you will go if you need help.

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emmanuel eshun-davies

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Nov 17, 2010, 12:34:02 PM11/17/10
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Please define open source cos honestly a lot of ppl take Open Source
help for me to complete their commercial applications...


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Prince Annan Koomson

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Nov 18, 2010, 7:13:01 AM11/18/10
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Open Source is "Freedom",
Free to modify, distribute and pass it on Free. Not necessarily doing somebody's project. Even mozilla, ubuntu developers are been paid, so please anybody who comes with project, charge him/her for your time and resource (your Computer) , because your computer is not Open Source, unless u decide not to take anything. But the source should be available. RedHat is open source but you will pay for support. Terminologies are actually confusing but try to derive the understanding...

Raymond Etornam

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Nov 18, 2010, 11:31:18 AM11/18/10
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Read carefully before posting further comments. Open source software is mainly about licensing and giving rights to users to modify your code ( by code I mean a useful project not a snippet) 



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Wisdom Donkor

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Nov 18, 2010, 10:03:55 AM11/18/10
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Prince you are right.

Almost true with the time table for the linux accra

take care

WISDOM DONKOR




Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 12:13:01 +0000

Subject: Re: HELP SOLVE QUESTIONS

Prince Annan Koomson

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Nov 18, 2010, 12:55:57 PM11/18/10
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A simple function can be close source, when you talk about code, there is nothing like, software code or snippet code, they are all codes. Coders gives respect to all kinds of code either 1000 lines of code or 1 line code. effective codes are less code. I think your research, u have to do it very well there is a difference between Open source and Open Source Software... 
Please Don't misuse the terminologies, use it at the appropriate place.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open-source_software

Groups are there to help
And we learn from each other...
Two heads are better than One

On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 3:03 PM, Wisdom Donkor <wisd...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Prince you are right.

Almost true with the time table for the linux accra

take care

WISDOM DONKOR




Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 12:13:01 +0000

Subject: Re: HELP SOLVE QUESTIONS

emmanuel eshun-davies

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Nov 18, 2010, 1:41:37 PM11/18/10
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interesting y'all... Prince am laughing my head out at your comment of
"because your computer is not Open Source" that is another story...
lol :D

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Nov 18, 2010, 2:16:50 PM11/18/10
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I wonder if by defining/understanding closed source we will in advertly understand opensource, Prince can you help with that, could you explain what you mean by closed source and how "a simple function can be close source...".

Prince Annan Koomson

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Nov 18, 2010, 3:36:38 PM11/18/10
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Stop Confusing your self Check the right meaning of Open Source... Computer => PC 'Is base on Agreement', whiles the Agreement is 'CONCERN' and valid, HP, DELL, which ever Read their Terms and Conditions ...

Open Source and Close Source => whiles you are on googlegroup make use of www.google.com and find out.

Raymond Etornam

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Nov 18, 2010, 4:42:30 PM11/18/10
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Annan,

Think about what you want to say, write it down first,run it through a spell checker and possibly get  another person to review it  before posting.The statement u just posted makes no sense.


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emmanuel eshun-davies

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Nov 18, 2010, 5:52:25 PM11/18/10
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Hahahahahhahaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! oh man, I need to record my laughter for
y'all to feel me doing
it... am loving here. we are now being active. dnt let us just argue
and flame each other
though its cool (am not saying stop, its healthy) lets learn and try
to catch the facts from it
also... everyone has got a point in this even the man who began the
WW3... I jst dnt knw if the
facts are right! :D

Please Wait.......
Scanning Emmanuel's Document.....
4 errors found on line 2 and 4
please check the oxford dictionary for the right English spelling
around "dnt", "jst", "dnt" and "knw"
suggested Spelling: "don't", "just", "do not", Know
Reading Halted by user, too many errors :D................

Jojoo, this is cool huh? an active group at last... lol

Joshua Owusu-Ansah

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Nov 18, 2010, 5:35:39 PM11/18/10
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Heyyy u guys its enough i expect u to be more matured here... cut this crap out.. We need to think abt more deep stuffs
not on mundane stuffs like this arguments..

U're talented so i dont expect this from u at all. am really surprised.

emmanuel eshun-davies

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Nov 18, 2010, 6:18:46 PM11/18/10
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oh come on Josh! we cnt be serious all our lives... we need to have
fun sometimes and what other best way to have fun than acting like
children... dnt tell me u never miss ur childhood... guys ignore him
lets go on this is good.... I do it with my family and for all these
years we are still together it cnt be that bad.... my close buddy lost
her girlfriend to a joker cos apparently their relationship was too
official... like "Gudmorning Sir" instead of "wats up sweety" lol :D

Raymond Etornam

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Nov 18, 2010, 7:45:21 PM11/18/10
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Joshua,
I didn't mean to offend anyone it is just that I didn't understand a word the guy said.  Anyway it looks like a lot of people do not understand the concept
 of open source software, many are also terrible at expressing themselves.I think we can fix this by actively communicating. I'm sorry if u feel I am arguing. I just want to point people in the right direction like a few people did for me when I started out.



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Raymond Etornam

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Nov 18, 2010, 8:01:34 PM11/18/10
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Jojoo,
This kid deserves a ban. he always toys with serious conversations.

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emmanuel eshun-davies

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Nov 19, 2010, 5:58:25 AM11/19/10
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Here’s to the crazy ones
The misfits.
The rebels.
The troublemakers.
The round pegs in the square holes.
The ones who see things differently.
They’re not fond of rules.
And they have no respect for the status quo.
You can praise them, disagree with them, quote them,
disbelieve them, glorify or vilify them.
About the only thing you can’t do is ignore them.
Because they change things.
They invent. They imagine. They heal.
They explore. They create. They inspire.
They push the human race forward.
Maybe they have to be crazy.
How else can you stare at an empty canvas and see a work of art?
Or sit in silence and hear a song that’s never been written?
Or gaze at a red planet and see a laboratory on wheels?
We make tools for these kinds of people.
While some see them as the crazy ones,
we see genius.
Because the people who are crazy enough to think
they can change the world, are the ones who do.

Originally from Apple Computer — a 1997 television ad.

Prince Annan Koomson

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Nov 19, 2010, 5:39:12 AM11/19/10
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i cant spend more than 1 min to reply a simple mail.
Open Source and Open source Software
when the software comes in, the concept differs,
I was just pointing at the word 'software' with the open source
Open source is simply making the resources and some things available
for public or anybody to use.

Besides this is a mailing list... Not a news page or article page...
to write a whole content from wiki, or sit down analyze and send a
mail. If u particularly don't understand, it doesn't mean you should
conclude.

It is very painful when somebody who needs help post a simple question
and people start throwing bombs instead of giving solution to the
problem.

We all help, 247 even during our sleeping hours we still provide
support. on my skype,yahoo and googletalk, mailing list if somebody is
in need. I give a little attention to people even if i am busy, this
is what i am addressing. If u know you can't help somebody on a
problem please do not post back. by throwing Bombs.
i haven't come across anything like this in all the groups i am part
of, We should adopt this.
Example "Ubuntu forums" etc.
We have time to laugh

I can see this is what we are good @, but if we need help the only
thing that comes in mind is google, whiles people are doing extra work
putting content on the web, people are also busy commenting on other
people's post... => if "BAN" comes in then reverse your post{-_-}
(*_*) {~_~}.

My time is very limited and i dont have time to continue $this->crap.

Me i just want updates about google Ghana not any help from $this->

###BAN is not my problem at all. infact('NOT AT ALL');

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Joshua Owusu-Ansah

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Nov 19, 2010, 4:34:50 AM11/19/10
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well Raymond thats not bad... well accepted and emma, i know its healthy, very cos am that type too, but i realized the tone from the others were just climbing upwards so i had to come in to cause a pause and clear the air. Anyways its all good for growth. Ray thanx for pointing them in the right direction.
:P

emmanuel eshun-davies

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Nov 19, 2010, 6:39:04 AM11/19/10
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Prince, nice object oriented comment. lol :D and Oh My God! :O a ban?
why? no no no pls, no not again no no no I have had it once and I
can't take it again... lol
Josh, am cool with everyone... :)
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