It is possible you have the impression that by taking karate you will radiate such confidence that everyone would be afraid to mess with such a highly trained killing machine. In truth karate taught me as much about fighting as home economics would teach about kayaking.
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Karate is broken down into two parts: kumite and kata. Kata is a pattern of moves to give you the illusion of fighting multiple attackers who apparently have no problem coming at you one at a time, and with the speed of the slower-than-frozen-syrup lizard monster Captain Kirk fought.
It probably goes without saying that the original reason many start martial arts is to become a good fighter ( a questionable life goal, but whatever ). The idea of slicing through the air like Jet Li and levelling a crowd of ninjas who are threatening you and your hot date is pretty much every guys fantasy.
Truth is that if you attempt to use karate the results will not be everyone looking at you standing victorious over your aggressor. Gorgeous young women will not fall into your arms and the unruly gang of teens will not stop, give a polite Japanese bow and allow you to carry on with your new found honor as the sound of oriental pipe music whistles in the background.
Most likely you will assume the fighting stance, and a Georges St. Pierre clone will dive-bomb you in the midsection so hard that you will literally fly through the air onto the concrete in two separate pieces.
Ok, we all know this assumption is baloney right from the start, but nonetheless there is a misconception with many karateka that their art is the King of the Hill. Everyone else style sucks but yours, right?
John Paul Parrot ( aka. The Dysfunctional Parrot ) is a disgruntled Systems Analyst who wanders the Canadian wastelands saving small villages with the power of Kung Fu. His chair is also a little too close to the twenty year old microwave. As you can well imagine, this has had certain side effects.
Karate and other martial arts have their origins in true combat arts and every single one of them has been corrupted by sport competitions and rules and such. It does not mean that the martial art is ineffective.
After too much time I finally realized karate is absolutely positively toxic and corrupt.
Lol they inadvertently found out I was leaving and boy were you right about that point. I will definitely trust you on anything going forward.
However karate is about yourself and own study perfecting your character and hence family should always come first as it is your family and children that make you a balanced human being. Karate isnt about kicking and punching but about perfection of character becoming a better stronger self. That means learning from those all around you in all aspects of life and sharing what you have learnt.
Shotokan is about self perfection not so much about self defence as other styles. So do not say Karate is useless. That is like saying cars are shit because a Ferrari can not drive in Jungle. My friend, you have simply chosen a wrong tool for your needs.
Had great training from one of the best in the business. And fifteen years is long enough. As with all things in life, nothing lasts forever! Besides, statistically speaking, everyone leaves eventually. Life has too many opportunities to spend doing one thing.
You are merely doing what all Oyama nut huggers do-saying he was this amazing fighter with no way to back any of that up. You are just repeating the nonsense Oyama brainwashed into people that followed him, which is why most had broken away long before Oyama died. Any serious knock down karate school is going to produce top notch fighters, especially if it is a live in full time school for years at at time. That had nothing to do with Oyama, other than he set it up. If those fighters had other schools to train at like that they would have done just as well, if not better. I would again refer you to this link in case you missed it the first time: =78935
Your description of kumite is funny. As a black belt in Kyokushin, I too use to ridicule the type of kumite you describe. This is not the kind of kumite we had. One of those people visiting our class got their arm broken from blocking a part power kick. Oyama won most of his matches with a single blow. He fought all comers trained in judo or anything. One mixed martial arts guy he fought got seven ribs broken with three quick punches.
You use the little you have experienced to cast a shadow over a much bigger area than you have experienced.
Oh, and I forgot Muay Thai. If you want to learn a real striking style that will teach you how to fight effectively, Muay Thai is the one. Loads of professional MMA fighters have a background in MT and it is an order of magnitude more effective than any Karate style out there, period.
good article and probably relevant to mcdojos but you shouldnt lump all karate in together. kyokushin karate is very effective and uses full contact continuous bare knuckle kumite unlike the point sparring you described. the quality of fighters in shinkyokushin is as good as anything in muay thai and kickboxing.
I find that the most vehement defenders of karate are Kyu belts. Many black belts have taken the time to look into their art and realize that yes, it has some very huge flaws that are worth admitting. I often find that by the time someone hits Sandan they usually dispense with such childish expectations of perfection.
There are plenty of formal martial arts moves where you use an oppents on going monentum or even their own weight against them with minimal effort so thats not true grant newsham my instructor once told me yes its true ur first weapon in a fight is ur words second is ur attempt to flee and third is ur martial arts
If you consider katas useless and karate usless then you must not be that good. People train in karate for generations but if your training a watered down karate that has no roots then it really doesnt matter because you learned garbage. You train katas over and over for repetition of blocks and strikes and moves that you can use in a real fight. If your fighting in your dojo and your taping each other then your dojo was just someones way of making money. If you have done karate for more than ten years and your not breaking concrete then you did it wrong, why dont you go to Okinawa and have a real master teach you something or go train in takeyour do. I bet you never even conditioned your hands or learned any real bankais to any forms. You learning karate from a watered down karate master is like trying to learn surgery from a stundent who just graduated college. MMA is a joke compared to styles like Goju, when you can speed break a brick in your hands then maybe you can write an article on karate but it seems your not as good as you thought.
I just dont think he taught you real karate, maybe cause he thought you were a joke, who knows. But Yaguchi taught shotokan that is based on shurite from okinawa which is much more of a soft art. It seems you like you were looking for a different art, not to mention that Mr. miyagi was not a coincidental name as Chojun Miyagi was the founder of Goju Ryu, an art that was passed down from southern shoalin boxing and nahate from okinawa. They trained to break through the wood armor of the japanese that oppressed them, the same way that judo was used by samurais to fight other samurias that had no weapons because the wood armor they used made it impossible to strike powerfully. There is no real faults except the lack of ground work but if your on the ground and theres more than one opponent then you lost anyways, now didnt you. All those training years and it seems that your the junior.
And while I have nothing against Goju ( took a bit of it. Liked it. ), your accusations are somewhat repetitive of any cult follower. What I mean it that you think your version of karate is something special. Sorry to disappoint but it is not. Hell, I get e-mails daily from Kyokushin saying their karate is the best. Likewise from Goju, Uechi-Ryu and even the deluded masses from TaeKwonDo. What I find interesting is that these people think I or anyone for that matter actually care.
Maybe your right because I do believe my art is the best but maybe thats becaue i havnt seen anything better and that probably goes for everyone. But when I see a sensei that breaks arms with nothing more than a punch I dont see why I should think otherwise. The trick to finding good karate is like anything else, you have to sort through the bullshit. Personally learning from someone who is 4th genereation from the original creator of goju helps for a better understanding of tradition instead of what is now just a bunch of fight clubs. But when it comes down to it the guy standing 20 feet away from you with the gun really wins so I dont see a real argument but non the less i cant resist a good troll. The funny thing about all these arts is they all came from the same place, were made to teach people how to fight and then all watered down to make cash so whos to really compare
well i bet your teachers never really taught you how to train your tendons, training you muscles without good tendon training is like power to your fuse box. There might be 2000 volts coming to the box but the fuse in your house only lets in 60. The same is for your muscles, then tendons being the fuse so train ur tendons and you get more power
there is a difference in static punching in a formal stance to actually fighting with the punch,, everything is broken down as if there is a freeze frame, to see what and how the punch travels. the reverse punch has a long travel point, as if to thrown a spear, the move distance the faster it can travel when it hits the point. there are jabs, round house punches, upper cuts etc, its all there,again its all context.
so be effective you have to go the mma rouet and fight on the ground 99% of the time. That is no more effective than a woman with a hangdbag, oops even that is more effective. you miss point though. The punches in karate, also kicks are effective, if they are hit at full force, would you agree or disagree, if you disagree, let some one punch you in the head with punch, or a kick. i have watched mma fights and i have seen punches thrown, kicks thrown, all the same as karate techniques. now if you are saying its not the techniques that are a problem then its the way of training, For MMA i agree, but thats a different context, its a different fighting style. To say karate is useless is missing the point, modern karate is not made for mma, its made as a sport, just like boxing and mma is with its own rule etc. Now if you go to mma club with just some karate background, sure the kicks and blocks and punches will help, but the context of the club u have past trained will ,not. karate like all other forms of fighting have throws in them see katas etc. The early practitioners of karate were men of all trades that jumped from on art to the other, and incorporated it into their arts and once it moved on from there it evolved to what we are. most people do not want to train for mma, do not want train for fighting in the real world against a skilled fighter,, even if they come out against some one who is skilled, just because you do karate does it mean you will loose, no way that is silly. You cannot have people fighting in the dojo going full pelt and smacking people over the head, getting injuries, broken teeth etc, its not just practical and realistic and it become a brawl.. You can be taught effective techniques and still come home after and be in good health. all i say at the end of the day if you want to learn to fight in the real work forget mma or karate go to your local bar every night and see what happened or go to war. May people in ufc etc mma have judo and karate backgrounds, and use these techniques effectively. i have seen boxers beat mma guys. its not the art its the person. Oh you do not want to end up on the ground in street fight. .You need complience to learn a technque and then some fighting in context later on to see if it works.
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