Missing oceanID

[Chris Jacobs]

I'm getting "unk" back for any coordinates in the ocean around Seattle (see image below).

Example request:

http://ws.geonames.net/oceanJSON?lat=48.319118&lng=-122.904548&username=[USER]&radius=2&lang=en-GB&token=[TOKEN]

{
"ocean": {
"distance": "0",
"geonameId": 0,
"name": "Unk"
}
}

This is not a problem across the border in Canada.

I have two questions:

1) Please can this be added?

2) Is it possible for me to contribute to the waterbodies data? We are using this API extensively to determine which oceans a sailing voyage took place in and do get gaps in the data quite often (I will start logging them all).

Thank you!

[Marc Wick]

Hi Chris

Sure.

1) how shall we name the attached ocean shape? At the moment it has the
name 'Unk'.

2) let's start with some sample gaps and then we can start analyzing
what is missing.

Best Regards

Marc

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[Marc Wick]

Hi Chris

Thanks a lot.

We have updated the boundaries for the following features:

https://www.geonames.org/6957035/salish-sea.html
https://www.geonames.org/5807517/puget-sound.html
https://www.geonames.org/5798976/strait-of-juan-de-fuca.html
https://www.geonames.org/5795379/strait-of-georgia.html

There are no other ocean features with the name of Unk.

Best Regards

Marc

Chris from SailTies wrote:
> Hi Marc,
>
> The sea is the Salish Sea, however it is a body of water that is split
> into three parts:
> 1. Straight of Georgia (north inlet)
> 2. Puget Sound (southern inlet)
> 3. Straight of Juan de Fuca (the channel out to sea)
>
> See image here:
> https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/5824fe76bebafb532872eb89/1613176978630-1GASGPK6B3S6IWGBVNKX/Salish-Sea-Bioregion-Reference-Map-8x11-1.png
>
> <https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/5824fe76bebafb532872eb89/1613176978630-1GASGPK6B3S6IWGBVNKX/Salish-Sea-Bioregion-Reference-Map-8x11-1.png>
> <https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/5824fe76bebafb532872eb89/1613176978630-1GASGPK6B3S6IWGBVNKX/Salish-Sea-Bioregion-Reference-Map-8x11-1.png>
>
> Please could you update the water bodies to reflect that?
>
> I’m not sure what the water bodies are called on the Canadian side of
> the border (your red area is just the US oceans), but if possible please
> can you update those as well to match the image?
>
> It would be great to get the geonameID once that is done.
>
> Out of interest - are there any other oceans named “Unk”?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Chris
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[Chris Jacobs]

Hi Marc,

That’s great - thank you!

Chris

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[Chris Jacobs]

Hi Marc,

Please could you provide an update on the Hudson River being a water body on Geonames?

I am also struggling to find a waterbody for the rivers around Montreal and Quebec (see photo, there seems to be nothing west of the selected waterbody):

I spotted a discussion you had in 2005 about limitations of returning rivers: https://forum.geonames.org/gforum/posts/list/2704.page 

Is there something we can do to improve the rivers in the system?

Is it possible for water bodies such as rivers and lakes to be returned in the Ocean API? Or could there be a water body API that would achieve that? This would be a massive help for us.

Thanks,

Chris

On 14 Feb 2025, at 10:03, Chris Jacobs <ch...@sailties.net> wrote:

Hi Marc,

We have received a request for the Hudson River to be marked as a water body on geonames. 

Would this be possible?

Also, is it possible for water bodies such as rivers and lakes to be returned in the Ocean API? Or could there be a water body API that would achieve that?

Thanks,

Chris

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[Chris Jacobs]

Hi Marc,

St Lawrence River keeps coming up with our users. One of them sent this reference to it: https://www.planstlaurent.qc.ca/en/st-lawrence-river 

Thanks,

Chris

On 1 Aug 2025, at 09:02, Chris Jacobs <ch...@sailties.net> wrote:

Hi Marc,

Please could you provide an update on the Hudson River being a water body on Geonames?

I am also struggling to find a waterbody for the rivers around Montreal and Quebec (see photo, there seems to be nothing west of the selected waterbody):

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[Marc Wick]

Hi Chris

The challenge is in finding the dataset. There is a project
'hydrosheds', it is based on feature extraction from satellite data:
https://www.hydrosheds.org/products/hydrorivers

It looks promising. However, it does not have many names, for rivers
none. Would you be ready to help contributing the names for the relevant
boundary polygons?
For rivers it is difficult to automatically match the geonames features
with the boundary polygons. For lakes it is much easier and we have
started with the work.

Best Regards

Marc


Chris Jacobs wrote:

> Hi Marc,
>
> We have received a request for the Hudson River to be marked as a water
> body on geonames.
>
> 1200px-Bear_Mtn_Bridge.jpeg

> Hudson River <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hudson_River>
> en.wikipedia.org <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hudson_River>

>
>
>
> Would this be possible?
>
> Also, is it possible for water bodies such as rivers and lakes to be
> returned in the Ocean API? Or could there be a water body API that would
> achieve that?
>
> Thanks,

> Chris
>
>

>> On 10 Sep 2024, at 16:46, Chris Jacobs <ch...@sailties.net> wrote:
>>

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>>
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> _____________________
>
> *Chris Jacobs*
> Co-founder
>
> Tel: +44 7478 860 906 <tel:+447478860906>
> Email: ch...@sailties.net <mailto:ch...@sailties.net>
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[Marc Wick]

Hi Chris

What would be the name of this water body?

Best Regards

Marc

Chris Jacobs wrote:
> Hi Marc,
>
> Please could you provide an update on the Hudson River being a water
> body on Geonames?
>
> I am also struggling to find a waterbody for the rivers around Montreal
> and Quebec (see photo, there seems to be nothing west of the selected
> waterbody):

> Screenshot 2025-08-01 at 08.55.36.png
>
> I spotted a discussion you had in 2005 about limitations of returning
> rivers: https://forum.geonames.org/gforum/posts/list/2704.page
>
> Is there something we can do to improve the rivers in the system?
>
> Is it possible for water bodies such as rivers and lakes to be returned
> in the Ocean API? Or could there be a water body API that would achieve
> that? This would be a massive help for us.
>
> Thanks,
> Chris
>
>> On 14 Feb 2025, at 10:03, Chris Jacobs <ch...@sailties.net> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Marc,
>>
>> We have received a request for the Hudson River to be marked as a
>> water body on geonames.
>>
>> <1200px-Bear_Mtn_Bridge.jpeg>

>> Hudson River <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hudson_River>
>> en.wikipedia.org <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hudson_River>
>>
>>
>>

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