Georgian For DejaVu Sans Version 2.0

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Jul 20, 2008, 10:15:19 AM7/20/08
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Georgian For DejaVu Sans, Version 2.0 is ready. Improved shapes,
readability.

Download:
http://groups.google.com/group/geofonts/web/BPG_DejaVuSans_V.2.0.zip

Please test -- after approval I'll add also bold, italic, bold-italic
versions...

Vladimer Sichinava

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Jul 21, 2008, 7:53:37 AM7/21/08
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Hello,

Here is some test on Ubuntu 8.04.1 LTS.

Screenshot with actual font:
http://gnome.inet.ge/alinux/dejavu2/current_ubuntu.png

Here is BPG Sans (Book) SIZE 10, that is bigger then
REGULAR Sans(also size 10). I'm not even sure if Book style
is OK for general GUI. One thing is sure, it's really big.

http://gnome.inet.ge/alinux/dejavu2/bpg_new.png

With Best Regards,


Vladimer


P.S Is regular size ready? First of all I prefer to compare Regular
Sans and then others.

2008/7/20 BPG <besa...@gmail.com>:

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Jul 21, 2008, 7:40:30 PM7/21/08
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Hi Lado
 
Your criticism is taken into account...
 
Here is other New version of Georgian for DejaVus Sans -- having width of letters same as was in the Old version.
 
Base features of the New version are:
 
1. Better usage of DejaVu Sans "Box" to filt Georgian letters neaded more space at the Accender ann Dessender -- now we use maximum of possible (illustrative images attached) -- so, now Georgian letters are more "natural", "traditional". ახლა ქართული ასოები უფრო „წელში გამართულია“ და აღარ მოჩანს ეგრერიგად „კუტი“ როგორც ძველ ვერსიაში იყო -- გამოყენებულია დეჟავუს ფონტის მაქსიმალური სიმაღლისა და სიდაბლის პრაქტიკულად მთელი შესაძლებლობები.
 
2. Better shapes of letters based on new experience and studio of traditional typography (illustrative images attached). თანამედროვე პერიოდისათვის მისაღებ ჩარჩოებში უფრო მეტადაა გათვალისწინებულია ტრადიციული, პოპულარული „სანშერი“ ქართული შრიფტების თავისებურებები, რომლებმაც ისინი აგრერიგად პოპულარული გახადა („ჩვეულებრივი“, „ვენური“, „პარიზული“, „კოლხეთი“) -- უარყოფილია „ბპგ გლახოდან“ მომავალი ზოგიერთი ექსტრემალური ინნოვაცია, - ამ შემთხვევაში უვარგისი მოხაზულობები.
 
ფონტის ბოლო ვერსია და საილუსტრაციო სურათები დაერთვის. ჩემი ახლანდელი თვალსაზრისით -- წინა ვერსის ასოები საკმაოდ „ბავშვური“, „არაპროფესიული“ მოხაზულობისაა -- თუმცა გემოვნებებზე არ კამათობენ...
 
Lado:
"Book" is a weight of font -- or measure of "boldness" (as normal, light, bold) -- nothing else. From the point of view of Georgian typography tradition -- DejaVu Sans is a BOLD font, and bold of DejaVu is ULTRABLACK or FAT (extremly bold) for Georgian. ქართული ტიპოგრაფიისათვის „დეჟავუ“ ძალზე მუქია -- მისი ასოების კედლების სისქე ორ-სამჯერ მეტია ვიდრე ვთქვათ „ჩვეულებრივისა“, „ვენურისა“, „პარიზულისა“ ან „კოლხეთისა“ და ეს ერთ-ერთი სირთულეა ამ ფონტის დიზაინისას.
 
Now -- I am waiting for more tests and criticizm of this "New" version... After -- fine tunning of letters would be done.
 
BPG
 
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BPG DejaVuSans_New.zip
DejavuSans_Box_Usage_For_Georgian_Old_And_New.gif
DejavuSans_Georgian_Old_New.gif
differ_1.gif

BPG Kolumbus

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Jul 21, 2008, 9:28:28 PM7/21/08
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წინა წერილის სურათში შეცდომა გამპარვია :(
 
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Vladimer Sichinava

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Jul 23, 2008, 9:32:38 AM7/23/08
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Hello,

Some screens of whole desktop:

Before:
http://gnome.inet.ge/alinux/dejavu2/screen_sans.png (Size 10)

After:
http://gnome.inet.ge/alinux/dejavu2/screen_sans_new.png (Size 10)

Gnome File Manager Nautilus:

Before:
http://gnome.inet.ge/alinux/dejavu2/nautilus_sans.png

After:
http://gnome.inet.ge/alinux/dejavu2/nautilus_sans_new.png

First impression is that new font is not wide as original sans,
In nautilus_sans_new.png desappears letter "ფ"-s shortcut line.(maybe
the same for other long letters, if used as shortcuts).
I personally prefer the old sans style, but it's only my impression,
maybe I'm simply accustomed to original Sans (old Rioni).

What can tell other members of this mailig list ?

BPG Kolumbus

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Jul 23, 2008, 12:38:35 PM7/23/08
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Hi Lado
 
Yes -- widths of letters in "new" version is unchanged -- same as in "old" version.
 
* * *
 
First let's check problem with dissapeared shurtcut under-line.
 
Here is other version -- I like to see if now shurtcut line is visible under all letters.
 
* * *
 
BPG
 
 
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Gnome File Manager Nautilus:

Before:
http://gnome.inet.ge/alinux/dejavu2/nautilus_sans.png

After:
http://gnome.inet.ge/alinux/dejavu2/nautilus_sans_new.png

First impression is that new font is not wide as original sans,
In nautilus_sans_new.png desappears letter "ფ"-s shortcut line.(maybe
the same for other long letters, if used as shortcuts).

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Vladimer Sichinava

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Aug 5, 2008, 4:50:28 PM8/5/08
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Hello and sorry for a long time (I'm working in this period so I have
very limited time for my hobbies :( )


> Hi Lado

Gamarjveba!

> Yes -- widths of letters in "new" version is unchanged -- same as in "old"
> version.
>
> * * *
>
> First let's check problem with dissapeared shurtcut under-line.
>
> Here is other version -- I like to see if now shurtcut line is visible under
> all letters.

Here it si some screens:
http://gnome.inet.ge/alinux/dejavu2/nautilus_sans.png <--- original.
http://gnome.inet.ge/alinux/dejavu2/nautilus_sans_new2.png <--- new sans2.


Dear Sir. Bessarion, I think that we should leave Sans in current
state, you think that
letters are little bit "funny" or "kiddy" "ბავშვური", but I don't
agree because it's really SUPER
suitable with GNOME, and GTK based applications. Before original
Rioni, I've tested so many other fonts,
first time I tried Rioni (current Georgian Dejavu Sans), I really fell
in love, and so many people loved that font-style.
So IMHO we should leave Sans in original state.

Some people (as I remmember) don't liked current Monospaced font. (I
personally don't agree! I like them too...):
http://gnome.inet.ge/alinux/dejavu2/monospace.png

I think that we should improve Serif in Dejavu first, it's unic font
that I don't admire(as Rioni for example).
I repeat it's only my opinion :)
here it is current serif screenshot:
http://gnome.inet.ge/alinux/dejavu2/serif.png ( in smaller size,
letters aren't fine legible)


Thank you for your time...

Best Regards,


Vladimer


>
> * * *
>
> BPG
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Vladimer Sichinava
> To: geof...@googlegroups.com
> Sent: 2008 წლის 23 07, ოთხშაბათი 16:32
> Subject: [geofonts ~ ქართული შრიფტი:127] Re: Georgian For DejaVu Sans
> Version 2.0
> Gnome File Manager Nautilus:
>
> Before:
> http://gnome.inet.ge/alinux/dejavu2/nautilus_sans.png
>
> After:
> http://gnome.inet.ge/alinux/dejavu2/nautilus_sans_new.png
>
> First impression is that new font is not wide as original sans,
> In nautilus_sans_new.png desappears letter "ფ"-s shortcut line.(maybe
> the same for other long letters, if used as shortcuts).
>
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