Geoengineering and the New Climate Denialism - response deadline today

[Ray Taylor]

Hi all

Can anyone make a careful reponse to this article:

Geoengineering and the New Climate Denialism

http://www.worldchanging.com/archives/009784.html


Ray
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[David Schnare]

The article is a screed, filled with misrepresentations and speculation.  It doesn't deserve a "careful review" and the author has been engaged on his point of view many times in the past to no useful result.

 

dschnare

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David W. Schnare
Center for Environmental Stewardship

[Albert Kallio]

Hi Ray,
 
I think huge majority of geongineering people feel that you are making too strong allegations about fossil fuel industries manipulating geoengineering to delay action.
 
If they were behind us seriously, we would be quite busy doing things already. Please note that even space mirrors do not solve the problem of ocean acidification we all are aware.
 
I suggest that you amend and moderate the tone of your otherwise well written article so that the insulting and conspiracy elements are taken out of. If one sheep plays game, do not blame whole body of people looking at geoengineering solutions.
 
It is not too dissimilar to hear this I am a member of Environmentalists for Nuclear Energy (EFN) but also investing in renewable energy projects and even been with climate campers.
 
Greenpeace is furious against nuclear energy while EFN encourages it, both for environmental reasons. I posted recently a clear article from Energy & Capital showing the pros and cons. As much as I would like all new energy to be renewable, the problem is the capacity of industries to supply wind turbines for all, the waiting time for some models is already 2016 and books closed for further orders (i.e. Energon 6MW turbines).
 
So it is not unwise for the time being to use available capacity of nuclear generator manufacturers to provide additional CO2 free (or almost free) electricity or heating.
 
So do not unnecessarily antagonise, true, there is competition for same tax etc monies for renewable energy, climate change studies, carbon sequestration, insulation, mitigation, adaptation, public transport and geoengineering that are all tapping into climate change funds to make the situation more manageable. But there is no major pro-CO2 conspiracies.
 
Rgs, Albert
 
 
 
 
 

 

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From: r...@andy-taylor.org
Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 19:08:42 +0100
Subject: [geo] Geoengineering and the New Climate Denialism - response deadline today
To: geoengi...@googlegroups.com

[DW]

Albert--

Ray did not write that article.

Dan

On May 14, 12:34 pm, Albert Kallio <albert_kal...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Ray,
>
> I think huge majority of geongineering people feel that you are making too strong allegations about fossil fuel industries manipulating geoengineering to delay action.
>
> If they were behind us seriously, we would be quite busy doing things already. Please note that even space mirrors do not solve the problem of ocean acidification we all are aware.
>
> I suggest that you amend and moderate the tone of your otherwise well written article so that the insulting and conspiracy elements are taken out of. If one sheep plays game, do not blame whole body of people looking at geoengineering solutions.
>
> It is not too dissimilar to hear this I am a member of Environmentalists for Nuclear Energy (EFN) but also investing in renewable energy projects and even been with climate campers.
>
> Greenpeace is furious against nuclear energy while EFN encourages it, both for environmental reasons. I posted recently a clear article from Energy & Capital showing the pros and cons. As much as I would like all new energy to be renewable, the problem is the capacity of industries to supply wind turbines for all, the waiting time for some models is already 2016 and books closed for further orders (i.e. Energon 6MW turbines).
>
> So it is not unwise for the time being to use available capacity of nuclear generator manufacturers to provide additional CO2 free (or almost free) electricity or heating.
>
> So do not unnecessarily antagonise, true, there is competition for same tax etc monies for renewable energy, climate change studies, carbon sequestration, insulation, mitigation, adaptation, public transport and geoengineering that are all tapping into climate change funds to make the situation more manageable. But there is no major pro-CO2 conspiracies.
>
> Rgs, Albert
>

> From: r...@andy-taylor.org
> Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 19:08:42 +0100
> Subject: [geo] Geoengineering and the New Climate Denialism - response deadline today
> To: geoengi...@googlegroups.com
>
> Hi all
>
> Can anyone make a careful reponse to this article:
>
> Geoengineering and the New Climate Denialism
>
> http://www.worldchanging.com/archives/009784.html
>
> Ray
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> Ray Taylor contact:
>
> Skype ID: AndyRayTaylor
> +44 (0) 77654 77305
> +44 (0) 7501 444047
> +44 (0) 1343 890287
> +44 (0) 845 058 0532
>

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[Ray Taylor]

Albert I didn't write the article.

I just thought it warranted a reply.

Ray

[dsw_s]

The idea of geoengineering being promoted by the fossil fuel industry
is mind-bogglingly stupid. But people will believe anything bad about
something they don't like.