(really quite astonishing) Tweet from Dr Naomi Wolf (@naomirwolf)

[Andrew Lockley]

This twitter fisticuffs between David Keith and Naomi Wolf is worth looking at. She's a twitter-verified (62k), multi-bestselling author making some utterly outlandish allegations against David and Gernot Wagner. David comes back, quite rightly, stating that this kind of misinformation puts him and his family's safety at risk. I couldn't agree with David more - this stuff is bait for the unhinged, and scientists cannot ordinarily hide their locations, afford close protection, or carry arms. 

IANAL, but this would seem to be libel under UK law - although it's unclear whether such an action could be brought in the UK. 

Naomi asked me for an interview after I called her out; I'd appreciate feedback on whether that's wise. 

Andrew 

Dr Naomi Wolf (@naomirwolf) tweeted at 5:21 am on Sun, Jun 10, 2018:
"Don't blame the scientists"? My child has serious respiratory issues and @DKeithClimate, @GernotWagner and @Harvard are spraying alumina and/or sulphates, a pollutant, at tropospheric level -- WHICH WILL REACH US  -- to "unknown environmental effect." This is a criminal act.
(https://twitter.com/naomirwolf/status/1005666203975782400?s=03)

[Jessica Gurevitch]

Wow, that is horrible.

She's been an invited 'writer in residence' extensively at my university, for what that's worth.

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[Stephen Salter]

Hi All

I was sad to hear about the serious respiratory issues of Dr Wolf's child and would like to draw her attention to the discovery by the Polish doctor Felix Bochkowsky that workers in salt mines had fewer lung problems than other people. Several companies now sell salt inhaling pipes and I can confirm that they really do work. Asthmatic children in Eastern Europe are treated with deep breathing exercises in salt mines.  My theory is that the mechanism is osmosis which kills viruses and bacteria by drying them.   To offset the thermal effects of double preindustrial CO2 we would have to release salt at about one tonne a second which is small compared with the 200 tonnes a second being released now from breaking waves which is the estimate from Grini et al. at  

doi:10.1175/1520-0442(2002)015<1717:MTACOS>2.0.CO;2.

The size of what we spray is important because larger or smaller salt particles can work in the wrong direction.  It is the number of successful nucleations which matters, not the salt mass.  Sadly little of the salt released from marine cloud brightening in mid ocean will reach land.

If anyone can give me an address for Dr Wolf I would like to send her papers about our work and its environmental impacts.

Stephen Salter

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[Peter Eisenberger]

Clearly spreading uninformed information about SRM needs to be confronted. But in doing so we should as scientists not act naive as if we are surprised that people have fears about 

injecting stuff into the air and not react as to transfer their fears into them being a bad person or generally personalize the response. Rather a response that acknowledges that scientists can understand their fears 

and accept the responsibility to adddress them and make sure what we do is safe. In that regard we should correct the misinformation and list all the effforts being made to make sure what is done will be done safely 

with concern for any adverse health impact being front and center in our concerns. It is upsettng that the Dr Strangelove view of scientists still persisits after all the positive things science has done to make peoples lives safer and better. 

But the fact is that it does exist and we scientists deal with facts so taking a factual approach with empathy for their fears and the telling them the effort  we make to address them (not give impression they have no basis) offers the best approach for the public to appreciate science and feel good that we share their concerns and take them into account in what we do . In that regard a good hsitory lesson might be to study all the debate about doing the first research on genetic modification that has many similarities with this issue - one thing they did was set up a group that included both scientists and lay persons to adddress the concerns about the safety of doing genetic modification work. If you then see the first labs for doing such research you will get some idea 

of how far one needs to go in the first attempts to address fears. 

I too share great concern for the adverse impact on David and his family and we all must completely oppose such reactions as being totally unacceptable. But that is different than how we deal with the naomis of this world and more generally the educated lay person.  We have a very clear lesson of failure to take into account the difference between fears and demonizing the fearful in the last US elections.Hopefully we can do better than that.          

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[Leon Di Marco]

The top pinned tweet on the Naomi Wolf twitter feed shows a video of David Keith, which Wolf says has been referred to by Dane Wigington and his Geoengineering Watch.org site.  On one of the videos from this site Wigington mentions vaccination dangers and it turns out that Wigington has been on another video supporting (former Dr) Andrew Wakefield , the anti vaccination campainer who was struck off the UK medical register for maintaining that vaccination with MMR caused autism.   Large numbers of mothers believed Wakefields story about the supposed dangers of the MMR vaccine and failed to have their children vaccinated, with very significant damaging consequences for some children, included properly researched and documented epidemics and deaths.

If Naomi Wolf has properly reasoned concerns about the transparency of SRM research then she should make them without introducing  misleading controversy which she clearly has very little grasp about, and is relying on self appointed expertise by "investigators" whose opinions are themselves highly suspect.   

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDvLCPe8viU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAPcg8bXzEc