Hi Alan--I'm confused. How are scientists being so
stupid? Surely, not by making water vapor the issue as that is
treated as a feedback and not the source of the problem? It is
others who have latched on to the water vapor feedback as
somehow going on independent of the CO2 increase.
If you are saying that the IPCC is not adequately
considering MCB, then write some papers on it as what the IPCC
does is assess the literature. I don't like how the discussion
of cooling interventions does not do a comparative impact of
assessment of the future with and without cooling approaches
being used to offset the ongoing warming from rising
concentrations of GHGs due to ongoing and growing emissions of
CO2, etc. In that the COP is in charge of asking for the input
from IPCC that it wants, they should be asking for that
comparison.
What we in HPAC are saying is that it is the COP
that needs to broaden the set of policies and approaches they
are considering to include the full Triad. That seems to me to
be where the problem is. In that you want a fair scientific
review of MCB and other approaches, calling scientists stupid
does not seem to me to advance the agenda that you favor.
Best, Mike
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Dear Alan--Well, I don't agree with your statements, and a lot of the problem is with policymakers, not scientists.
1. On your first point, in the US, the President's Science Advisory Council put out a report on issue in 1965 that was discussed at Cabinet and Congressional level (and the report mentioned the possibility of geoengineering). The Department of Energy held an international conference in 1977, I think it was and started its' energy research program in 1979--leading to major international assessment in 1985 and work of Santer and others on detection, etc. The Charney report was put out by the US Academy of Scientists and there were then other reports in following years, including one in early 1990s with appendix looking at ways to do geoengineering.
2. I don't know any scientists in field that would disagree on water vapor feedback. Sure, there have been deniers, often supported by fossil fuel interests or just commenting from other fields of science. But look at Villach report from 1985 that was key conference leading to formation of IPCC.
3. COP-26 (and all other COPs) are run by government representatives, not by scientists. It is an intergovernmental body, not a scientific one. And the COP is who gets to set and approve the topics covered by IPCC. IPCC had a workshop on geoengineering back in 2011 and there has been a good bit of scientific study of geoengineering through GeoMIP since about the same time, with earlier research. And I had a summary paper in a major World Bank report in 2009-10 or so.
4. I certainly don't disagree that the world is in a serious situation, but I think your criticism is not aimed at where the problem really is, which is the COP that has not focused on the risks that the world is facing and instead focused on perhaps the least alarming central metric of the change in the global average temperature.
I do indeed think that the scientific community has an obligation to be more carefully investigating climate intervention and more clearly explaining possibilities. And I think this particularly the case on application of MCB, mainly its practicality as a global scale influence and its impacts. Silverlining is pushing on this, but getting just the right amount of CCN lofted in all the right locations and all the right times to have the type of influence needed it seems to me will not at all be easy. But the main problem is that the COP, so the government representatives, have yet to come to agree that they need to expand the set of policy approaches to include intervention.
Best, Mike