ETFE, where to buy

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tonyalbers

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Jun 14, 2011, 4:03:54 AM6/14/11
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Hi all,

I'm new to this group, but I have been interested in geodesics and
dome building for more than 5 years now.

I live in Denmark, and for my new project i need to know where to buy
ETFE film for covering 3 domes to be used as greenhouses.

Can anyone help out? I've tried to contact a few of the manufacturers
through their online contact forms, but so far no one has replied.

TIA

/tony

Dick Fischbeck

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Jun 14, 2011, 7:13:26 AM6/14/11
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I can't help with that but welcome, Tony.

Gerry in Quebec

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Jun 14, 2011, 8:40:23 AM6/14/11
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Tony,
Check out this company. The url is for the UK operation. Not sure
whether they sell raw ETFE or just the finished custom-made ETFE foil
pillow panels.

http://www.architen.com/technical/articles/etfe-foil-a-guide-to-design?gclid=CJeniu20takCFcO8Kgods3ptPA

- Gerry in Quebec

FLWQ

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Jun 14, 2011, 8:58:08 AM6/14/11
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http://www.vector-foiltec.com/cms/gb/contact/contactdetail.php?filter=germany

I'm probably mistaken, but I thought they are the largest in Europe.
In Bremen, so relatively close to you.

You'll get more response/information where to buy if you just call.

FLWQ

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Jun 14, 2011, 9:20:56 AM6/14/11
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Here you can look for suppliers: http://nl.kompass.com/en

And be aware that you very probably can't weld etfe, because that is
very difficult (and I think the smoke is carcinogenic).

Thomas Reno

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Jun 14, 2011, 8:35:11 AM6/14/11
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I do not know about ETFE but I would suggest looking into a product called Polydress by LP-KEDER it is an Air Bubble Greenhouse Film. I can get it from a Canadian distributer but it is a German product. www.growtech.ca is their website.

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tonyalbers

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Jun 14, 2011, 1:16:56 PM6/14/11
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Thanks everyone, I'll make sure to check out your suggestons and
links.

/tony


Robb Greathouse

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Mar 17, 2013, 1:26:45 AM3/17/13
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Does anyone know where to buy EFTE in the US.  I am doing a home greenhouse in New Mexico.

Bert Adams

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Jan 21, 2014, 3:06:29 PM1/21/14
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So it sounds like:
No one knows where to buy ETFE film
And know ones knows how to bond it, (Weld, glue whatever).

ETFE sounds good, but we can't get it, or find out how to actually bond it??

Gary Leib

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Feb 19, 2014, 11:07:28 PM2/19/14
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http://www.vector-foiltec.com  has a sales office for the US in upper state NY.

Paul S

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Mar 8, 2014, 11:50:22 AM3/8/14
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Any news on suppliers? I am in quebec.......

thanks

Paul

jmh8802

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May 14, 2014, 9:41:52 AM5/14/14
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I found a place to buy it online.  www.durafilmshop.com

American Durafilm sells the film in small quantities and can even seal a shape or panel for you if you need it custom made to fit your project. 

Rishi Raaj Imrit

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May 19, 2014, 3:54:45 AM5/19/14
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Hey Guys, 
We build geodesic domes for any kind of purpose. Our geodesic domes are the best in Mauritius/Indian Ocean and ideal for events, shelters, greenhouses, yurts, tipis and is the most strongest structure to man till now. 
Trying to make DGM go worldwide. For any information, go to http://domeguysmauritius.com. Contact us if you need more details. 
Thanks 
Rishi 
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Tim Mann

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Nov 25, 2014, 3:30:38 PM11/25/14
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Aloha All

As well as running our USDA organically certified commercial aquaponics farm since 2008, my wife Susanne and I've been designing and building "high-tech" Chinese-style greenhouses since 2011. A page on our website describing our mid-size greenhouse is here: (http://www.friendlyaquaponics.com/farmers-greenhouse/).

We used Asahi Glass Company's "F-Clean" ETFE film in the 100-mil thickness to cover this greenhouse. It is incredibly durable when installed and tensioned properly (30+ years); and when not tensioned or installed properly performs just like "really expensive" poly film, that is, it only lasts a couple of years.

It is not possible to glue or cement ETFE together; and the "welding machine" for welding it costs $100,000 and requires a lot of training to use. Asahi Glass is the only company in the world that welds ETFE (TBMK), and supplies sheets up to 39 feet wide by 110 feet long. There is (unfortunately) only one North American distributor, and their price sheet is here: (http://www.friendlyaquaponics.com/docs/ETFE%20Pricing%202014.pdf). If you have a LARGE order ($20,000 or more) contact Asahi Glass directly; you will get better service and a better price. It is difficult to buy sheet ETFE from other manufacturers, or even to get them interested in returning your emails or calls, because they all want big, $100,000+ orders.

The real benefit of ETFE comes into play when used as a greenhouse covering at higher latitudes or in other locations with minimal wintertime sunshine. It passes more light than glass, while coming in at a fraction of the cost and weight, and is the ONLY cheap way to get around having to install lights and pay for electricity to keep your crops growing during cloudy or low-light periods during the winter. ETFE, though “expensive” is far, far cheaper than buying the lights plus paying the electric bill (forever!).

ETFE is absolutely unnecessary if you are below about 36 degrees latitude in a place that has relatively sunny winters, and you should use standard 6-mil single-layer EV-stabilized greenhouse poly film. This is unless your location also has high winds; in which case it is far cheaper than poly, which has no strength, and which you have to replace after every high-wind event because it shreds and disappears into the wind. We have clients in “Tornado Alley” in Alabama/Tennessee who have greenhouses covered with ETFE that have gone through 5 high-wind events of 70+ miles per hour over a 2-year period, with no damage and no detectible degradation of the ETFE.

Aloha, Tim Mann, trai...@friendlyaquaponics.com

ETFE Pricing 2014.pdf
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Hassan Banna

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Oct 7, 2015, 12:04:42 PM10/7/15
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Hi,
we have an area of 120 * 38 M in Egypt, could it be fit for 4 domes of that design? tell cost for frame, fixing parts, cooling system (cooling cells), it'll be for hydroponic use, send photos of cooling cells and suction fans while fitted to it. cost of each part. What about the rust resistance of the frame?

have you a design for that area as one unit? tell details if have
offer sufficient QTY of ETFE needed at both cases
send a text about ETPE advantages above other options.
WhatsApp: 00201005166665

Blair Wolfram

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Oct 7, 2015, 12:43:22 PM10/7/15
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Nov 28, 2015, 10:43:33 AM11/28/15
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Tim 
Thanks for sharing.  I live in a high wind area and would like to speak with the "tornado alley" clients regarding the use of ETFE.  Would you be so kind as to share their contact info?  Can you share any more info on the installation and tension procedures / specs if available?
Thank you
Pete
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Christopher Freitas

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Nov 29, 2015, 3:05:50 PM11/29/15
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I have a sample of the solawrap film and I agree it is nice material and looks very suitable for DIY greenhouses/domes.  It is available in 6 foot wide x 328 foot film at $2400 per roll - so $1.22 per sq. ft. - this was the price I was provided recently from Michael Taylor (michael < at > seedtosavings < dot > com who in a Solawrap distributor in the Portland OR area.  


Luit Kumar Baruah

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Dec 17, 2015, 12:12:24 PM12/17/15
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hi Tony,
do you have a requirement of ETFE now?
If yes, please let me know the qty, we can supply you at the best quality product at a competitive rate.

best regards,
Luit

Ravi Rathod

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Dec 28, 2016, 7:23:44 AM12/28/16
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Hi all,


I am also new to this group and also for these type of convesations.
However, I have a regular requirement of ETFE films in Surat (City), Gujarat (State), India (Country).
This ETFE films are being used for mold releasing purpose in composite industry & we need for same purpose.

Kindly let me know if anyone comes across any sources for the same.

Regards,
Ravi Rathod
Purchase Engineer


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Ravi Rathod

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Specification of ETFE Release film.jpg

Ashok Mathur

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Dec 28, 2016, 12:51:25 PM12/28/16
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Dear Ravi
While in past ETFE was not available in India, now Amazon is offering it in tapes:
https://www.google.co.in/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=etfe+tape&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&gfe_rd=cr&ei=AvpjWJKPCaXT8geZ8ZS4Aw
It also looks like Alibaba is also is offering.
Regards
Ashok

Regards

Ashok


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Ravi Rathod

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Dec 28, 2016, 11:34:02 PM12/28/16
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Dear Ashok,


Thank you for the reply.
However the ETFE you are pointing is mere 10 mm wide and is completely different then what I am looking for.

The ETFE roll I am looking for is 25 microns thick,1.5 meter wide & length can be customized.
This roll is being used in various purposes & my purpose is for mold release purpose.

Nevertheless, thank you for reply once again.
Your reply is much appreciated.


Regards,
Ravi

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Paul Kranz

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Ravi:

You could start here: http://www.etfeproducts.co.uk/

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Ravi Rathod

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Jan 3, 2017, 3:36:01 AM1/3/17
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Dear Paul,

A big thank you for pointing the direction.
However these are ETFE panels, and being used for different purpose i.e, agricultural purpose.

The ETFE we require comes in a film form, having thickness from 15 to 25 microns.
It is specially being used for demoulding process in composite industries.

I am attaching a photograph for your kind consideration.
Please let me know if you come across the same. (Hopefully within India).

Regards,
Ravi

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