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Ashok Mathur

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Oct 20, 2023, 10:32:47 AM10/20/23
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I want help in identifying the geometry of this dome.
Are there ready made software for generating such geometry?
Thanks
Ashok

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Eric Marceau

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Oct 20, 2023, 2:26:44 PM10/20/23
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In this video (starting at around 5:40, you have more focus on the dome itself ...

... as an exit from an undeground mall, and

... as an entrance into the Mosque Plaza.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=-K4hvVxJe74

Of note, the panning of the Plaza is very fast, but you seem to get hints of at least one other "Entrance Dome" in the distance behind other structures and vegetation.


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Oct 20, 2023, 2:55:02 PM10/20/23
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This page give a better view of the layout and placement of the Domes with respect to the Mosque itself.

https://www.de-simone.com/projects/project/sheikh-zayed-grand-mosque-new-visitors-center-and-plaza/


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Ashok Mathur

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Thanks for the correction.
Where can I find some details of its geometry?
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Ashok
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Hector Alfredo Hernández Hdez.

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The name is “afámela”

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Hi Ashok,


Those are "double-helix" domes, sometimes referred to as "zomes".

Here are a few links:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfQID5LcnuA
(the first reply to a question gives some info)

https://www.freepik.com/photos/helical-structure
(some pics here show cross-helical structures)

https://phoenixdomes.com/products/patio-zome
(very simplistic struture - commercial)

https://www.reddit.com/r/domes/comments/gdtc0o/zomes_turns_out_theyre_just_half_turn_helixs/?rdt=33174
(some discussion here; maybe info contacts)

https://tablebasedepot.com/products/double-helix-shape-geodesic-dining-dome-igloo-tent-stainless-steel-3m-4-person
(similar/identical to the above simplistic structure - commercial)

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1002/advs.202002701
(paper "The Twisting of Dome-Like Metamaterial from Brittle to Ductile", which discusses a single-helix design)

http://zomadic.blogspot.com/2013/09/the-zonohedral-cathedral.html
(was on display at Burning Man; collapsible? relocatable?)

https://imgur.com/gallery/2zlKW
(entitled:  My first ZonoHedron its 20' by 17' high; some discussion)

https://auto-culture-maison.blogspot.com/2016/10/comprendre-le-zome.html?m=1
(best intro I could find; some actual mathematical discussion, but it is all in French; entitled "Understanding the zome")

http://www.presidentsmedals.com/Entry-12540
(what might be the first "zome", the "Glass House" dated 1914, some plans)
http://www.presidentsmedals.com/showcase/2010/l/1254_22163915042.jpg

https://github.com/timhutton/zomes
("Zomes are polar zonohedron domes, made from rhombi."; interractive tool offered)

https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:167496
(simplistic zome model)

https://www.pinterest.ca/pin/459648705731577039/
(zome on the horizontal instead of vertical)

https://www.solidsmack.com/design/cnc-zonahedral-structures-zome-rob-bell/
(possible interest)

https://phoenixdomes.com/products/4-season-glamping-package-zomes
(glamping zomes;  Image of strut distribution on grid below)
https://phoenixdomes.com/cdn/shop/products/4-season-glamping-package-zome-498.jpg?v=1672440173&width=1445

Hope that helps!  😁


Eric

Adrian Rossiter

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Oct 21, 2023, 12:53:24 AM10/21/23
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Hi Ashok

On Fri, 20 Oct 2023, Ashok Mathur wrote:
> I want help in identifying the geometry of this dome.
> Are there ready made software for generating such geometry?

The dome has a number of horizontal circular bands, "possibly" with a
common width on the dome surface. The top three bands are like a lamella
dome, in this case like a F3 decagonal pyramid (minus the base), and the
other bands are like 30-gonal antiprisms.

If the dome is an ellipsoid, and the band widths aren't critical, then
it would be straightforward to describe the vertices in spherical
coordinates, as a spherical dome, and then convert to Cartesian
coordinates and scale vertically.

Adrian.
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hahajahah

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Oct 21, 2023, 4:55:11 AM10/21/23
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Found this simple zome generator
is this the same geometry for shell construction of a MSG Sphere in Las vegas 
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Eric Marceau

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Some extras ...

https://github.com/cedrelek/zomebuilder
("Calculate everything to help building a zome-shaped-house")

https://github.com/ardheia/zomedomeetcie
(logiciel de modélisation 3D de charpentes particulières : zome, nid d'abeille, heliyourte, geodome)

https://github.com/intere2960/ZomeFab
(looks like it could be related; scanned some of the source code, lots of math functions/relations)

https://github.com/devthejo/zome-polar-rhombizonohedron
(Zome Sketchup Plugin - Zonaèdre Polaire)

https://www.designboom.com/design/bamboo-dome-like-structure-giant-grasss-zome-building-kit-05-21-2021/
(some do-it-yourself instructions)


https://www.flickr.com/photos/zomadic/3452303107/in/album-72157616983353030/
(lots of photos of do-it-yourself using wood)


https://github.com/vZome/vzome
(not quite the zome, but has hints of geodesics in its "genes"!)

https://github.com/vZome/zome-tetras
(not quite the zome, but of interest to those studying tetrahedra)


Eric

Ashok Mathur

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