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Simon H WANG
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From: <c...@landreg.gov.hk>
Date: Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 10:05 AM
Subject: Re: Underdeveloped land in Fanling
To: <simo...@hkbu.edu.hk>
From: <c...@landreg.gov.hk>
Date: Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 10:05 AM
Subject: Re: Underdeveloped land in Fanling
To: <simo...@hkbu.edu.hk>
Dear Dr WANG,
I refer to your request of 22.12.2019 concerning the ownership of land lot FSSTL 182.
As explained
by our Miss WAN during the phone conversation on 27.12.2019, you may consider
conducting a land search to obtain a land register of the land lot concerned
via our Integrated Registration Information System (IRIS) Online Service
(website: www.iris.gov.hk)
or by visiting any of our search offices. A land register contains
the property information such as owner’s name and incumbrances registered
against the property. For more information on search procedures,
land register and search fees, please refer to our online information pamphlets
"How to Conduct Searches of Land Records", "Understanding
the Land Register" and "Search and Registration Fees Schedule"
at our website (http://www.landreg.gov.hk/en/public/lrinfo.htm).
The service charge for a land register indicating the current particulars
of a property is HK$10.
Besides, I append the following Property Reference Numbers (PRNs) for your reference:
Land lot: FSSTL 182 PRN: C4286303
Land lot: FSSTL 182 (RP) PRN: D4723709
If you have any questions, please contact me at 2867 2707.
Yours sincerely,
(Ms Eva LAU)
Access to Information Officer
for Land Registrar
----- Original Message -----
From: Simon H WANG <simo...@hkbu.edu.hk>
To: c...@landreg.gov.hk
Date: 13/01/2020 13:45
Subject: Re: Underdeveloped land in Fanling
Dear Sir/Madam
A while ago, one of your colleagues called me and told me how to look up for information on the website. I believe that this is not the proper way of handling a Code on Access to Information request. I would prefer a written reply so I can consult later and send to other agencies for further discussion. Please have a senior official to review the case and get back to me in writing.
Yours sincerely
Simon Wang, Ph.D.
Lecturer
Language Centre
Hong Kong Baptist University
Kowloon Tong, Hong Kong
http://lc.hkbu.edu.hk/staff_simon.php
Writing for the Public Project
https://sites.google.com/a/hkbu.edu.hk/write4public/home
On Sun, Dec 22, 2019 at 6:00 PM Simon H WANG <simo...@hkbu.edu.hk> wrote:
Dear Ms Lau
I refer to my Code on Access to Information request made to the Lands Department for which I have requested for a review as the department failed to provide the information I need. I hope your department could provide the information I need under the Code on Access to Information. The original request is presented here for your reference. Thanks in advance for your assistance.
Dear Sir/Madam
I am writing to seek information about a piece of land near Noble Hill, Fanling as indicated in the attached map and picture. (URL: https://www.google.com/maps/@22.5030384,114.13872,3a,75y,38.48h,85t/data=!3m5!1e1!3m3!1sURjIB4RjMgNu57s7Vk4qYA!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo3.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DURjIB4RjMgNu57s7Vk4qYA%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D355.92862%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100 ) I was told that this piece of land has been occupied by New World Development Group which had erected some inexpensive buildings solely for the purpose of ripping off the HKSAR government. I'd like to have more information about the status and ownership of this piece of land as well as the buildings found in the picture. Given that the government is striving to find more land for development in the city, I hope more attention to cases like this could broaden the sources of land that is available for the society. Thanks in advance for your information.
Yours sincerely
Simon Wang
Yours Sincerely,
Simon Wang, Ph.D.
Lecturer
Language Centre
Hong Kong Baptist University
Kowloon Tong, Hong Kong
http://lc.hkbu.edu.hk/staff_simon.php
Writing for the Public Project
https://sites.google.com/a/hkbu.edu.hk/write4public/home
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From: Simon H WANG <simo...@hkbu.edu.hk>
Date: Sun, Dec 22, 2019 at 5:40 PM
Subject: Re: Underdeveloped land in Fanling
To: <es...@landsd.gov.hk>, <d...@landsd.gov.hk>
Dear Sir/Madam
I am writing to request a review of the reply from your department dated 21 Aug 2018 evoking clause 1.25 of Code on Access to Information: Any person who believes that a department has failed to comply with any provision of the Code may ask the department to review the situation. The target response times set out in paragraphs 1.16 to 1.19 above also apply to requests for review. https://www.access.gov.hk/en/codeonacctoinfo/part1.html
I believe that my request should be addressed with more specific instructions on how to locate the information and should be transferred to other relevant departments for follow up.
Yours sincerely
Simon Wang
On Mon, Dec 16, 2019 at 4:39 PM Simon H WANG <simo...@hkbu.edu.hk> wrote:
Dear Sir/Madam
Please pass this case to your supervisor and request him or her to provide more instructions to assist me find information I need under the Code on Access to Information.
yours sincerely
Simon Wang
On Tue, 21 Aug 2018 at 11:50, <es...@landsd.gov.hk> wrote:
Dear Dr Simon WANG,
Thank you for your email dated 20.7.2018.
Please be informed that the site mentioned in your email is on private land FSSTL 182 which is governed by New Grant No. 13181. Regarding the land status and ownership of the land, you may find the information through Survey & Mapping Office and the Land Registry. The relevant websites are listed below for your easy access: -
Land Status
Geoinfo Map : http://www2.map.gov.hk/gih3/view/index.jsp
(You may also buy the hardcopy of the land status plan in various survey and mapping offices (https://www.landsd.gov.hk/mapping/welcome.htm))
Ownership
Land Registry : https://www2.iris.gov.hk/eservices/
Should you have any question, free feel to contact me at 2675 1753.
Regards,
Clara LIU
for District Lands Officer / North
Tel: 2675 1753
From: Simon H Wang <simo...@hkbu.edu.hk>
To: lan...@landsd.gov.hk,
Cc: d...@landsd.gov.hk
Date: 2018/08/21 上午 09:33
Subject: Re: LD200236: Underdeveloped land in Fanling
Dear Sir/Madam,
I refer to my email dated July 23. I assume that the Lands Department would process requests of information following the protocols of Code on Access to Information even if the code is not mentioned.
While non-Code requests (i.e. requests which do not make specific reference to the Code or are not made in the specified application form under the Code) should be handled in the usual manner as they have been dealt with, they should be considered on the same basis as that applicable to requests under the Code, i.e. in deciding the release or otherwise of the requested information, consideration should be given in accordance with the provisions of the Code. In line with the spirit of the Code, departments should, as far as possible, adhere to the same target response times specified in the Code.
http://www.access.gov.hk/filemanager/content/codeonacctoinfo/guidelines.pdf
Thanks for your attention.
Yours sincerely
Simon Wang
On Mon, 23 Jul 2018 at 7:27 PM, <lan...@landsd.gov.hk> wrote:
Dear Sir/Madam,
This message is to acknowledge receipt of your e-mail below. Your e-mail has been assigned a serial number as shown in the subject of this e-mail and referred to District Lands Office/North for further handling. A substantive reply will be sent to you as soon as possible.
For enquiry of the progress, you may contact Mr. KWOK Sui Cheong at Tel. No. 2675 1513 during office hours. Please quote the assigned serial number when tracing the progress with our staff.
Regards,
IT Service Section
Lands Department
This e-mail message (together with any attachments) is for the designated recipient only. It may contain information that is privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use , retention, disclosure, copying, printing, forwarding or dissemination of the message is strictly prohibited. If you have received the message in error, please erase all copies of the message (including attachments) from your system and notify the sender immediately.
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From: Simon H Wang <simo...@hkbu.edu.hk>
To: lan...@landsd.gov.hk,
Date: 2018/07/20 下午 02:25
Subject: Underdeveloped land in Fanling
Dear Sir/Madam
I am writing to seek information about a piece of land near Noble Hill, Fanling as indicated in the attached map and picture. (URL: https://www.google.com/maps/@22.5030384,114.13872,3a,75y,38.48h,85t/data=!3m5!1e1!3m3!1sURjIB4RjMgNu57s7Vk4qYA!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo3.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DURjIB4RjMgNu57s7Vk4qYA%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D355.92862%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100 ) I was told that this piece of land has been occupied by New World Development Group which had erected some inexpensive buildings solely for the purpose of ripping off the HKSAR government. I'd like to have more information about the status and ownership of this piece of land as well as the buildings found in the picture. Given that the government is striving to find more land for development in the city, I hope more attention to cases like this could broaden the sources of land that is available for the society. Thanks in advance for your information.
Yours sincerely
Simon Wang
--
Simon Wang, Ph.D.
Lecturer
Language Centre
Hong Kong Baptist University
Kowloon Tong, Hong Kong
http://lc.hkbu.edu.hk/staff_simon.php
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--
Simon Wang, Ph.D.
Lecturer
Language Centre
Hong Kong Baptist University
Kowloon Tong, Hong Kong
http://lc.hkbu.edu.hk/staff_simon.php
Disclaimer
This message (including any attachments) may contain confidential information intended for a specific individual and/or purpose. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this message and notify the sender and the University immediately. Any disclosure, copying, or distribution of this message, or the taking of any action based on it, is prohibited as it may be unlawful.
In addition, the University specifically denies any responsibility for the accuracy or quality of information obtained through University E-mail Facilities. Any views and opinions expressed in the email(s) are those of the author(s), and do not necessarily represent the views and opinions of the University. The University accepts no liability whatsoever for any losses or damages that may be incurred or caused to any party as a result of the use of such information.
Simon Wang, Ph.D.
Lecturer
Language Centre
Hong Kong Baptist University
Kowloon Tong, Hong Kong
http://lc.hkbu.edu.hk/staff_simon.php
Writing for the Public Project
https://sites.google.com/a/hkbu.edu.hk/write4public/home
Disclaimer
This message (including any attachments) may contain confidential information intended for a specific individual and/or purpose. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this message and notify the sender and the University immediately. Any disclosure, copying, or distribution of this message, or the taking of any action based on it, is prohibited as it may be unlawful.
In addition, the University specifically denies any responsibility for the accuracy or quality of information obtained through University E-mail Facilities. Any views and opinions expressed in the email(s) are those of the author(s), and do not necessarily represent the views and opinions of the University. The University accepts no liability whatsoever for any losses or damages that may be incurred or caused to any party as a result of the use of such information.
Besides, I append the following Property Reference Numbers (PRNs) for your reference:
Land lot: FSSTL 182 PRN: C4286303
Land lot: FSSTL 182 (RP) PRN: D4723709
If you have any questions, please contact me at 2867 2707.
Yours sincerely,
(Ms Eva LAU)
Access to Information Officer
for Land Registrar
----- Original Message -----
From: Simon H WANG <simo...@hkbu.edu.hk>
To: c...@landreg.gov.hk
Date: 13/01/2020 13:45
Subject: Re: Underdeveloped land in Fanling
Dear Sir/Madam
A while ago, one of your colleagues called me and told me how to look up for information on the website. I believe that this is not the proper way of handling a Code on Access to Information request. I would prefer a written reply so I can consult later and send to other agencies for further discussion. Please have a senior official to review the case and get back to me in writing.
Yours sincerely
Simon Wang, Ph.D.
Lecturer
Language Centre
Hong Kong Baptist University
Kowloon Tong, Hong Kong
http://lc.hkbu.edu.hk/staff_simon.php
Writing for the Public Project
https://sites.google.com/a/hkbu.edu.hk/write4public/home
On Sun, Dec 22, 2019 at 6:00 PM Simon H WANG <simo...@hkbu.edu.hk> wrote:
Dear Ms Lau
I refer to my Code on Access to Information request made to the Lands Department for which I have requested for a review as the department failed to provide the information I need. I hope your department could provide the information I need under the Code on Access to Information. The original request is presented here for your reference. Thanks in advance for your assistance.
Dear Sir/Madam
I am writing to seek information about a piece of land near Noble Hill, Fanling as indicated in the attached map and picture. (URL: https://www.google.com/maps/@22.5030384,114.13872,3a,75y,38.48h,85t/data=!3m5!1e1!3m3!1sURjIB4RjMgNu57s7Vk4qYA!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo3.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DURjIB4RjMgNu57s7Vk4qYA%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D355.92862%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100 ) I was told that this piece of land has been occupied by New World Development Group which had erected some inexpensive buildings solely for the purpose of ripping off the HKSAR government. I'd like to have more information about the status and ownership of this piece of land as well as the buildings found in the picture. Given that the government is striving to find more land for development in the city, I hope more attention to cases like this could broaden the sources of land that is available for the society. Thanks in advance for your information.
Yours sincerely
Simon Wang
Yours Sincerely,
Simon Wang, Ph.D.
Lecturer
Language Centre
Hong Kong Baptist University
Kowloon Tong, Hong Kong
http://lc.hkbu.edu.hk/staff_simon.php
Writing for the Public Project
https://sites.google.com/a/hkbu.edu.hk/write4public/home
---------- Forwarded message ---------
From: Simon H WANG <simo...@hkbu.edu.hk>
Date: Sun, Dec 22, 2019 at 5:40 PM
Subject: Re: Underdeveloped land in Fanling
To: <es...@landsd.gov.hk>, <d...@landsd.gov.hk>
Dear Sir/Madam
I am writing to request a review of the reply from your department dated 21 Aug 2018 evoking clause 1.25 of Code on Access to Information: Any person who believes that a department has failed to comply with any provision of the Code may ask the department to review the situation. The target response times set out in paragraphs 1.16 to 1.19 above also apply to requests for review. https://www.access.gov.hk/en/codeonacctoinfo/part1.html
I believe that my request should be addressed with more specific instructions on how to locate the information and should be transferred to other relevant departments for follow up.
Yours sincerely
Simon Wang
On Mon, Dec 16, 2019 at 4:39 PM Simon H WANG <simo...@hkbu.edu.hk> wrote:
Dear Sir/Madam
Please pass this case to your supervisor and request him or her to provide more instructions to assist me find information I need under the Code on Access to Information.
yours sincerely
Simon Wang
On Tue, 21 Aug 2018 at 11:50, <es...@landsd.gov.hk> wrote:
Dear Dr Simon WANG,
Thank you for your email dated 20.7.2018.
Please be informed that the site mentioned in your email is on private land FSSTL 182 which is governed by New Grant No. 13181. Regarding the land status and ownership of the land, you may find the information through Survey & Mapping Office and the Land Registry. The relevant websites are listed below for your easy access: -
Land Status
Geoinfo Map : http://www2.map.gov.hk/gih3/view/index.jsp
(You may also buy the hardcopy of the land status plan in various survey and mapping offices (https://www.landsd.gov.hk/mapping/welcome.htm))
Ownership
Land Registry : https://www2.iris.gov.hk/eservices/
Should you have any question, free feel to contact me at 2675 1753.
Regards,
Clara LIU
for District Lands Officer / North
Tel: 2675 1753
From: Simon H Wang <simo...@hkbu.edu.hk>
To: lan...@landsd.gov.hk,
Cc: d...@landsd.gov.hk
Date: 2018/08/21 上午 09:33
Subject: Re: LD200236: Underdeveloped land in Fanling
Dear Sir/Madam,
I refer to my email dated July 23. I assume that the Lands Department would process requests of information following the protocols of Code on Access to Information even if the code is not mentioned.
While non-Code requests (i.e. requests which do not make specific reference to the Code or are not made in the specified application form under the Code) should be handled in the usual manner as they have been dealt with, they should be considered on the same basis as that applicable to requests under the Code, i.e. in deciding the release or otherwise of the requested information, consideration should be given in accordance with the provisions of the Code. In line with the spirit of the Code, departments should, as far as possible, adhere to the same target response times specified in the Code.
http://www.access.gov.hk/filemanager/content/codeonacctoinfo/guidelines.pdf
Thanks for your attention.
Yours sincerely
Simon Wang
On Mon, 23 Jul 2018 at 7:27 PM, <lan...@landsd.gov.hk> wrote:
Dear Sir/Madam,
This message is to acknowledge receipt of your e-mail below. Your e-mail has been assigned a serial number as shown in the subject of this e-mail and referred to District Lands Office/North for further handling. A substantive reply will be sent to you as soon as possible.
For enquiry of the progress, you may contact Mr. KWOK Sui Cheong at Tel. No. 2675 1513 during office hours. Please quote the assigned serial number when tracing the progress with our staff.
Regards,
IT Service Section
Lands Department
This e-mail message (together with any attachments) is for the designated recipient only. It may contain information that is privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use , retention, disclosure, copying, printing, forwarding or dissemination of the message is strictly prohibited. If you have received the message in error, please erase all copies of the message (including attachments) from your system and notify the sender immediately.
本信息(及附件)只供指定收件人使用, 而其中可能載有機密及/或屬法律特權的資料。如果你並非屬意的收件人, 不得使用, 保留, 披露, 複印, 傳送, 或發放本信息。倘若本信息誤傳給你, 請立即删除本信息(及附件)並通知寄件人。
From: Simon H Wang <simo...@hkbu.edu.hk>
To: lan...@landsd.gov.hk,
Date: 2018/07/20 下午 02:25
Subject: Underdeveloped land in Fanling
Dear Sir/Madam
I am writing to seek information about a piece of land near Noble Hill, Fanling as indicated in the attached map and picture. (URL: https://www.google.com/maps/@22.5030384,114.13872,3a,75y,38.48h,85t/data=!3m5!1e1!3m3!1sURjIB4RjMgNu57s7Vk4qYA!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo3.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DURjIB4RjMgNu57s7Vk4qYA%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D355.92862%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100 ) I was told that this piece of land has been occupied by New World Development Group which had erected some inexpensive buildings solely for the purpose of ripping off the HKSAR government. I'd like to have more information about the status and ownership of this piece of land as well as the buildings found in the picture. Given that the government is striving to find more land for development in the city, I hope more attention to cases like this could broaden the sources of land that is available for the society. Thanks in advance for your information.
Yours sincerely
Simon Wang
--
Simon Wang, Ph.D.
Lecturer
Language Centre
Hong Kong Baptist University
Kowloon Tong, Hong Kong
http://lc.hkbu.edu.hk/staff_simon.php
Disclaimer
This message (including any attachments) may contain confidential information intended for a specific individual and/or purpose. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this message and notify the sender and the University immediately. Any disclosure, copying, or distribution of this message, or the taking of any action based on it, is prohibited as it may be unlawful.
In addition, the University specifically denies any responsibility for the accuracy or quality of information obtained through University E-mail Facilities. Any views and opinions expressed in the email(s) are those of the author(s), and do not necessarily represent the views and opinions of the University. The University accepts no liability whatsoever for any losses or damages that may be incurred or caused to any party as a result of the use of such information.
--
Simon Wang, Ph.D.
Lecturer
Language Centre
Hong Kong Baptist University
Kowloon Tong, Hong Kong
http://lc.hkbu.edu.hk/staff_simon.php
Disclaimer
This message (including any attachments) may contain confidential information intended for a specific individual and/or purpose. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this message and notify the sender and the University immediately. Any disclosure, copying, or distribution of this message, or the taking of any action based on it, is prohibited as it may be unlawful.
In addition, the University specifically denies any responsibility for the accuracy or quality of information obtained through University E-mail Facilities. Any views and opinions expressed in the email(s) are those of the author(s), and do not necessarily represent the views and opinions of the University. The University accepts no liability whatsoever for any losses or damages that may be incurred or caused to any party as a result of the use of such information.
--
Simon Wang, Ph.D.
Lecturer
Language Centre
Hong Kong Baptist University
Kowloon Tong, Hong Kong
http://lc.hkbu.edu.hk/staff_simon.php
Writing for the Public Project
https://sites.google.com/a/hkbu.edu.hk/write4public/home
Disclaimer
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In addition, the University specifically denies any responsibility for the accuracy or quality of information obtained through University E-mail Facilities. Any views and opinions expressed in the email(s) are those of the author(s), and do not necessarily represent the views and opinions of the University. The University accepts no liability whatsoever for any losses or damages that may be incurred or caused to any party as a result of the use of such information.
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In addition, the University specifically denies any responsibility for the accuracy or quality of information obtained through University E-mail Facilities. Any views and opinions expressed in the email(s) are those of the author(s), and do not necessarily represent the views and opinions of the University. The University accepts no liability whatsoever for any losses or damages that may be incurred or caused to any party as a result of the use of such information.
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