gdigi problem with rp1000

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gold...@onlinehome.de

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Hello

I'm a Linux Newbie (Linux Mint 17, 32bit) and i want to use gdigi
with my RP1000. (ver.1.2)
I have installed gdigi and all other components :
sudo apt-get install build-essential libasound2-dev libgtk-3-dev libglib2.0-dev libexpat1-dev libxml2-dev
wget http://sourceforge.net/projects/gdigi/files/gdigi/0.4.0/gdigi-0.4.0.tar.bz2
tar xvjpf gdigi-0.4.0.tar.bz2
cd gdigi-0.4.0
make
./gdigi

When i want to start gdigi with my connected rp1000 nothing happens???!!!
I tried to start from the terminal (gdigi -D hw:1,0,0)
The result is shown in the attachement*
Perhaps you will have an idea what i'm doing wrong
(in my qasmixer the rp 1000 is recognized as usb-mixer?)

best regards
Achim

*achim@Schrottkiste ~ $ gdigi -D hw:1,0,0
RECEIVE_PRESET_START: current edit buffer
Name: KISS , Not modified
1 (3, 129, 0) Wah: Wah Enable: Off
2 (3, 128, 132) Wah: Wah Type: Cry Wah
3 (3, 133, 0) Wah: Wah Vol. Boost: 0dB
4 (4, 193, 0) Compressor: Compressor Enable: Off
5 (4, 207, 195) Compressor: Comp Type: Digi Comp
6 (4, 208, 50) Compressor: Compressor Sustain: 50
7 (4, 209, 50) Compressor: Compressor Tone: 50
8 (4, 211, 0) Compressor: Compressor Attack: 0
9 (4, 210, 99) Compressor: Compressor Level: 99
10 (6, 2433, 0) Distortion: Dist Enable: Off
11 (6, 2432, 1281) Distortion: Dist Type: Rodent
12 (6, 2437, 50) Distortion: Dist Distortion: 50
13 (6, 2438, 50) Distortion: Dist Filter: 50
14 (6, 2439, 60) Distortion: Dist Volume: 60
15 (8, 2496, 314) Amp A: Amp A Type: '68 Plexi Lead 100
16 (8, 2497, 99) Amp A: Amp A Gain: 99

** (gdigi:7704): WARNING **: Failed to find xml settings for position 2507 id 8.
17 error

** (gdigi:7704): WARNING **: Failed to find xml settings for position 2508 id 8.
18 error

** (gdigi:7704): WARNING **: Failed to find xml settings for position 2509 id 8.
19 error
20 (8, 2498, 30) Amp A: Amp A Level: 30
21 (9, 2560, 622) Amp Cab A: Cab A Type: Vintage 4x12
22 (24, 3212, 1) EQ A: EQ A Enable: On
23 (24, 3203, 4) EQ A: EQ A Bass: -8dB

** (gdigi:7704): WARNING **: Failed to find xml settings for position 3214 id 24.
24 error
25 (24, 3204, 18) EQ A: EQ A Mid: 6dB

** (gdigi:7704): WARNING **: Failed to find xml settings for position 3215 id 24.
26 error
27 (24, 3205, 11) EQ A: EQ A Treb: -1dB
28 (12, 705, 0) Noise Gate: Gate Enable: Off
29 (12, 704, 768) Noise Gate: Gate Type: Gate
30 (12, 710, 35) Noise Gate: Gate Threshold: 35
31 (12, 712, 0) Noise Gate: Gate Attack: 0
32 (12, 713, 0) Noise Gate: Gate Release: 0
33 (12, 714, 99) Noise Gate: Gate Attenuation: 99
34 (14, 769, 0) Chorus Fx: Chorus/FX Enable: Off
35 (14, 768, 889) Chorus Fx: Mod Type: Dual Chorus
36 (14, 770, 1544) Chorus Fx: Mod Pre/Post: Post
37 (14, 837, 20) Chorus Fx: Chorus Speed: 20
38 (14, 838, 70) Chorus Fx: Chorus Depth: 70
39 (14, 840, 0) Chorus Fx: Chorus Waveform: Tri
40 (14, 836, 42) Chorus Fx: Chorus Level: 42
41 (15, 1857, 0) Delay: Delay Enable: Off
42 (15, 1856, 1052) Delay: Delay Type: Digital

** (gdigi:7704): WARNING **: Failed to find xml settings for position 1868 id 15.
43 error
44 (15, 1863, 7) Delay: Delay Repeats: 7
45 (15, 1889, 13) Delay: Delay Duck Thresh: 13

** (gdigi:7704): WARNING **: Failed to find xml settings for position 1904 id 15.
46 error
47 (15, 1860, 3) Delay: Delay Level: 3
48 (15, 1890, 0) Delay: Delay Duck Level: 0
49 (16, 1921, 1) Reverb: Reverb Enable: On
50 (16, 1920, 1151) Reverb: Reverb Type: EMT240 Plate
51 (16, 1922, 0) Reverb: Reverb Predelay: 0
52 (16, 1927, 99) Reverb: Reverb Decay: 99
53 (16, 1933, 99) Reverb: Reverb Liveliness: 99
54 (16, 1925, 12) Reverb: Reverb Level: 12
55 (3, 132, 99) Wah: Wah Position: 99
56 (21, 8449, 0) Vswitch: V-Switch Enable: Off
57 (13, 2626, 99) Volume Pre Fx: Volume Pre FX: 99
58 (17, 2626, 99) Volume Post Fx: Volume Post FX: 99
59 (18, 2626, 25) Preset: Preset Level: 25
60 (19, 8194, 526785) Expression: Pedal Assign 1: 526785
61 (19, 8195, 42) Expression: Pedal Min 1: 42
62 (19, 8196, 99) Expression: Pedal Max 1: 99
63 (22, 8258, 0) LFO 1: LFO1 Assign: 0
64 (22, 8259, 0) LFO 1: LFO1 Min:
65 (22, 8260, 0) LFO 1: LFO1 Max:
66 (22, 8262, 0) LFO 1: LFO1 Speed: 0,05Hz
67 (22, 8263, 0) LFO 1: LFO1 Waveform: Tri
68 (23, 8258, 0) LFO 2: LFO2 Assign: 0
69 (23, 8259, 0) LFO 2: LFO2 Min:
70 (23, 8260, 0) LFO 2: LFO2 Max:
71 (23, 8262, 0) LFO 2: LFO2 Speed: 0,05Hz
72 (23, 8263, 0) LFO 2: LFO2 Waveform: Tri
73 (20, 8194, 196740) Wah Min Max: V-Switch Pedal Assign: 196740
74 (20, 8195, 0) Wah Min Max: Wah Min: 0
75 (20, 8196, 99) Wah Min Max: Wah Min: 99
76 (21, 8384, 196737) Vswitch: V-Switch Assign: 196737
77 (21, 8385, 0) Vswitch: V-Switch Min: Off
78 (21, 8386, 1) Vswitch: V-Switch Max: On
79 (21, 8393, 0) Vswitch: V-Switch Type: Toggle
80 (26, 8704, 1792) Library A: Tone Lib Type: Custom
81 (26, 8705, 1856) Library A: FX Lib Type: Custom
82 (26, 8706, 22) Library A: FxLiblvl: 22
83 (26, 8708, 191) Library A: FxLibLvlMax1: 191
84 (26, 8710, 14) Library A: FxLibLvlMax2: 14
85 (26, 8712, 55) Library A: FxLibLvlMax3: 55
86 (9, 2560, 622) Amp Cab A: Cab A Type: Vintage 4x12
87 (26, 8712, 55) Library A: FxLibLvlMax3: 55
88 (26, 8712, 55) Library A: FxLibLvlMax3: 55
89 (26, 8712, 55) Library A: FxLibLvlMax3: 55
90 (26, 8712, 55) Library A: FxLibLvlMax3: 55

** (gdigi:7704): WARNING **: Failed to find xml settings for position 3213 id 24.
91 error

** (gdigi:7704): WARNING **: Failed to find xml settings for position 3216 id 24.
92 error

** (gdigi:7704): WARNING **: Failed to find xml settings for position 3217 id 24.
93 error

** (gdigi:7704): WARNING **: Failed to find xml settings for position 3218 id 24.
94 error

** (gdigi:7704): WARNING **: Failed to find xml settings for position 3329 id 34.
95 error

** (gdigi:7704): WARNING **: Failed to find xml settings for position 3649 id 33.
96 error

** (gdigi:7704): WARNING **: Failed to find xml settings for position 1798 id 34.
97 error

** (gdigi:7704): WARNING **: Failed to find xml settings for position 8384 id 28.
98 error

** (gdigi:7704): WARNING **: Failed to find xml settings for position 8385 id 28.
99 error

** (gdigi:7704): WARNING **: Failed to find xml settings for position 8386 id 28.
100 error

** (gdigi:7704): WARNING **: Failed to find xml settings for position 8384 id 29.
101 error

** (gdigi:7704): WARNING **: Failed to find xml settings for position 8385 id 29.
102 error

** (gdigi:7704): WARNING **: Failed to find xml settings for position 8386 id 29.
103 error

** (gdigi:7704): WARNING **: Failed to find xml settings for position 8384 id 30.
104 error

** (gdigi:7704): WARNING **: Failed to find xml settings for position 8385 id 30.
105 error

** (gdigi:7704): WARNING **: Failed to find xml settings for position 8386 id 30.
106 error

** (gdigi:7704): WARNING **: Failed to find xml settings for position 8384 id 31.
107 error

** (gdigi:7704): WARNING **: Failed to find xml settings for position 8385 id 31.
108 error

** (gdigi:7704): WARNING **: Failed to find xml settings for position 8386 id 31.
109 error

** (gdigi:7704): WARNING **: Failed to find xml settings for position 8384 id 32.
110 error

** (gdigi:7704): WARNING **: Failed to find xml settings for position 8385 id 32.
111 error

** (gdigi:7704): WARNING **: Failed to find xml settings for position 8386 id 32.
112 error
TOTAL 112
RECEIVE_MODIFIER_LINKABLE_LIST: Group 1 count 47
Position : 0
ID : 0
Name : None

Position : 4
ID : 193
Name : Compressor Enable

Position : 4
ID : 208
Name : Compressor Sustain

Position : 4
ID : 209
Name : Compressor Tone

Position : 4
ID : 211
Name : Compressor Attack

Position : 4
ID : 210
Name : Compressor Level

Position : 6
ID : 2433
Name : Dist Enable

Position : 6
ID : 2437
Name : Dist Distortion

Position : 6
ID : 2438
Name : Dist Filter

Position : 6
ID : 2439
Name : Dist Volume

Position : 8
ID : 2497
Name : Amp Gain

Position : 8
ID : 2507
Name : (null)

Position : 8
ID : 2508
Name : (null)

Position : 8
ID : 2509
Name : (null)

Position : 8
ID : 2498
Name : Amp Level

Position : 24
ID : 3212
Name : EQ Enable

Position : 24
ID : 3213
Name : (null)

Position : 24
ID : 3203
Name : EQ Bass

Position : 24
ID : 3214
Name : (null)

Position : 24
ID : 3204
Name : EQ Mid

Position : 24
ID : 3215
Name : (null)

Position : 24
ID : 3205
Name : EQ Treb

Position : 12
ID : 705
Name : Gate Enable

Position : 12
ID : 710
Name : Gate Threshold

Position : 12
ID : 712
Name : Gate Attack

Position : 12
ID : 713
Name : Gate Release

Position : 12
ID : 714
Name : Gate Attenuation

Position : 14
ID : 769
Name : Chorus/FX Enable

Position : 14
ID : 837
Name : Chorus Speed

Position : 14
ID : 838
Name : Chorus Depth

Position : 14
ID : 840
Name : Chorus Waveform

Position : 14
ID : 836
Name : Chorus Level

Position : 15
ID : 1857
Name : Delay Enable

Position : 15
ID : 1863
Name : Delay Repeats

Position : 15
ID : 1889
Name : Delay Duck Thresh

Position : 15
ID : 1904
Name : (null)

Position : 15
ID : 1860
Name : Delay Level

Position : 15
ID : 1890
Name : Delay Duck Level

Position : 16
ID : 1921
Name : Reverb Enable

Position : 16
ID : 1922
Name : Reverb Predelay

Position : 16
ID : 1927
Name : Reverb Decay

Position : 16
ID : 1933
Name : Reverb Liveliness

Position : 16
ID : 1925
Name : Reverb Level

Position : 13
ID : 2626
Name : Volume Pre FX

Position : 17
ID : 2626
Name : Volume Post FX

Position : 34
ID : 3329
Name : (null)

Position : 33
ID : 3649
Name : (null)

**
ERROR:gui.c:760:update_modifier_vbox: assertion failed: (group[x].label)
Abgebrochen
achim@Schrottkiste ~ $

Tomasz Moń

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Nov 14, 2014, 2:27:41 PM11/14/14
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On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 8:11 PM, <gold...@onlinehome.de> wrote:
> When i want to start gdigi with my connected rp1000 nothing happens???!!!
> I tried to start from the terminal (gdigi -D hw:1,0,0)
> The result is shown in the attachement*
> Perhaps you will have an idea what i'm doing wrong
> (in my qasmixer the rp 1000 is recognized as usb-mixer?)

Please check if it's already fixed in current git and post back the results.

If you don't know what I mean by git, you can simply use following commands:

sudo apt-get install git
git clone git://github.com/desowin/gdigi.git
cd gdigi
make
./gdigi

Tomasz Moń

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Nov 15, 2014, 2:09:03 PM11/15/14
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On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 3:42 PM, Achim Gold <gold...@onlinehome.de> wrote:
> Hello Tomasz
>
> many thanks for your quick answer!!
> I tried your advice and installed the "git", and now gdigi starts!!! (many
> thanks therefore!)
> I found out, when clicking on the presets on the left side, gdigi hang up ?
> Is this normal ?
> Changing parameters and saving to the rp1000 works fine (in the short time i
> tested it!)
>
> many thanks for your support:-)
>
> best regards
>
> Achim

For future reference: please reply to the mailing list so everyone can see it.

The hang up is definitely not normal. Could you please provide debug log?

gold...@onlinehome.de

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Nov 16, 2014, 5:51:25 AM11/16/14
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Hello Tomasz

I don know how to "provide debug log" ?
Please help!

Achim

gold...@onlinehome.de

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HelloTomasz

is this the debug log?:

achim@Schrottkiste ~/gdigi $ gdigi -D hw:1,0,0
RECEIVE_PRESET_START:  current edit buffer
Name: JC.EDDIE, Not modified

  1 (3, 129, 0)      Wah: Wah Enable: Off
  2 (3, 128, 132)    Wah: Wah Type: Cry Wah
  3 (3, 133, 0)      Wah: Wah Vol. Boost: 0dB
  4 (4, 193, 0)      Compressor: Compressor Enable: Off
  5 (4, 207, 195)    Compressor: Comp Type: Digi Comp
  6 (4, 208, 50)     Compressor: Compressor Sustain: 50
  7 (4, 209, 50)     Compressor: Compressor Tone: 50
  8 (4, 211, 0)      Compressor: Compressor Attack: 0
  9 (4, 210, 99)     Compressor: Compressor Level: 99
 10 (6, 2433, 0)     Distortion: Dist Enable: Off
 11 (6, 2432, 1302)  Distortion: Dist Type: SD Overdrive

** (gdigi:3713): WARNING **: Failed to find xml settings for position 2565 id 6.
 12 error

** (gdigi:3713): WARNING **: Failed to find xml settings for position 2566 id 6.
 13 error

** (gdigi:3713): WARNING **: Failed to find xml settings for position 2567 id 6.
 14 error

** (gdigi:3713): WARNING **: Amp A Type value 373 out of range 307,0 351,0
 15 (8, 2496, 373)   Amp A: Amp A Type: PV 5150II
 16 (8, 2497, 40)    Amp A: Amp A Gain: 40

** (gdigi:3713): WARNING **: Failed to find xml settings for position 2507 id 8.
 17 error

** (gdigi:3713): WARNING **: Failed to find xml settings for position 2508 id 8.
 18 error

** (gdigi:3713): WARNING **: Failed to find xml settings for position 2509 id 8.
 19 error
 20 (8, 2498, 51)    Amp A: Amp A Level: 51

 21 (9, 2560, 622)   Amp Cab A: Cab A Type: Vintage 4x12
 22 (24, 3212, 0)    EQ A: EQ A Enable: Off
 23 (24, 3203, 14)   EQ A: EQ A Bass: 2dB

** (gdigi:3713): WARNING **: Failed to find xml settings for position 3214 id 24.
 24 error
 25 (24, 3204, 17)   EQ A: EQ A Mid: 5dB

** (gdigi:3713): WARNING **: Failed to find xml settings for position 3215 id 24.
 26 error
 27 (24, 3205, 13)   EQ A: EQ A Treb: 1dB

 28 (12, 705, 0)     Noise Gate: Gate Enable: Off
 29 (12, 704, 768)   Noise Gate: Gate Type: Gate
 30 (12, 710, 35)    Noise Gate: Gate Threshold: 35
 31 (12, 712, 0)     Noise Gate: Gate Attack: 0
 32 (12, 713, 0)     Noise Gate: Gate Release: 0
 33 (12, 714, 99)    Noise Gate: Gate Attenuation: 99
 34 (14, 769, 1)     Chorus Fx: Chorus/FX Enable: On
 35 (14, 768, 892)   Chorus Fx: Mod Type: TC Chorus
 36 (14, 770, 1543)  Chorus Fx: Mod Pre/Post: Pre
 37 (14, 837, 25)    Chorus Fx: Chorus Speed: 25
 38 (14, 848, 75)    Chorus Fx: Chorus Width: 75
 39 (14, 849, 49)    Chorus Fx: Chorus Intensity: 49
 40 (15, 1857, 1)    Delay: Delay Enable: On
 41 (15, 1856, 1057) Delay: Delay Type: Echo Plex

** (gdigi:3713): WARNING **: Failed to find xml settings for position 1899 id 15.
 42 error

** (gdigi:3713): WARNING **: Failed to find xml settings for position 1874 id 15.
 43 error

** (gdigi:3713): WARNING **: Failed to find xml settings for position 1904 id 15.
 44 error

** (gdigi:3713): WARNING **: Failed to find xml settings for position 1893 id 15.
 45 error
 46 (16, 1921, 1)    Reverb: Reverb Enable: On
 47 (16, 1920, 1151) Reverb: Reverb Type: EMT240 Plate
 48 (16, 1922, 0)    Reverb: Reverb Predelay: 0
 49 (16, 1927, 99)   Reverb: Reverb Decay: 99
 50 (16, 1933, 99)   Reverb: Reverb Liveliness: 99
 51 (16, 1925, 23)   Reverb: Reverb Level: 23
 52 (3, 132, 99)     Wah: Wah Position: 99
 53 (21, 8449, 0)    Vswitch: V-Switch Enable: Off
 54 (13, 2626, 99)   Volume Pre Fx: Volume Pre FX: 99
 55 (17, 2626, 99)   Volume Post Fx: Volume Post FX: 99
 56 (18, 2626, 25)   Preset: Preset Level: 25
 57 (19, 8194, 1116738) Expression: Pedal Assign 1: 1116738
 58 (19, 8195, 0)    Expression: Pedal Min 1: 0
 59 (19, 8196, 99)   Expression: Pedal Max 1: 99
 60 (22, 8258, 0)    LFO 1: LFO1 Assign: 0
 61 (22, 8259, 0)    LFO 1: LFO1 Min:
 62 (22, 8260, 0)    LFO 1: LFO1 Max:
 63 (22, 8262, 0)    LFO 1: LFO1 Speed: 0,05Hz
 64 (22, 8263, 0)    LFO 1: LFO1 Waveform: Tri
 65 (23, 8258, 0)    LFO 2: LFO2 Assign: 0
 66 (23, 8259, 0)    LFO 2: LFO2 Min:
 67 (23, 8260, 0)    LFO 2: LFO2 Max:
 68 (23, 8262, 0)    LFO 2: LFO2 Speed: 0,05Hz
 69 (23, 8263, 0)    LFO 2: LFO2 Waveform: Tri
 70 (20, 8194, 196740) Wah Min Max: V-Switch Pedal Assign: 196740
 71 (20, 8195, 0)    Wah Min Max: Wah Min: 0
 72 (20, 8196, 99)   Wah Min Max: Wah Min: 99
 73 (21, 8384, 196737) Vswitch: V-Switch Assign: 196737
 74 (21, 8385, 0)    Vswitch: V-Switch Min: Off
 75 (21, 8386, 1)    Vswitch: V-Switch Max: On
 76 (21, 8393, 0)    Vswitch: V-Switch Type: Toggle
 77 (26, 8704, 1792) Library A: Tone Lib Type: Custom
 78 (26, 8705, 1856) Library A: FX Lib Type: Custom
 79 (26, 8706, 29)   Library A: FxLiblvl: 29
 80 (26, 8708, 169)  Library A: FxLibLvlMax1: 169
 81 (26, 8710, 34)   Library A: FxLibLvlMax2: 34
 82 (26, 8712, 79)   Library A: FxLibLvlMax3: 79
 83 (9, 2560, 622)   Amp Cab A: Cab A Type: Vintage 4x12
 84 (26, 8712, 79)   Library A: FxLibLvlMax3: 79
 85 (26, 8712, 79)   Library A: FxLibLvlMax3: 79
 86 (26, 8712, 79)   Library A: FxLibLvlMax3: 79
 87 (26, 8712, 79)   Library A: FxLibLvlMax3: 79

** (gdigi:3713): WARNING **: Failed to find xml settings for position 3213 id 24.
 88 error

** (gdigi:3713): WARNING **: Failed to find xml settings for position 3216 id 24.
 89 error

** (gdigi:3713): WARNING **: Failed to find xml settings for position 3217 id 24.
 90 error

** (gdigi:3713): WARNING **: Failed to find xml settings for position 3218 id 24.
 91 error

** (gdigi:3713): WARNING **: Failed to find xml settings for position 3329 id 34.
 92 error

** (gdigi:3713): WARNING **: Failed to find xml settings for position 3649 id 33.
 93 error

** (gdigi:3713): WARNING **: Failed to find xml settings for position 1798 id 34.
 94 error

** (gdigi:3713): WARNING **: Failed to find xml settings for position 8384 id 28.
 95 error

** (gdigi:3713): WARNING **: Failed to find xml settings for position 8385 id 28.
 96 error

** (gdigi:3713): WARNING **: Failed to find xml settings for position 8386 id 28.
 97 error

** (gdigi:3713): WARNING **: Failed to find xml settings for position 8384 id 29.
 98 error

** (gdigi:3713): WARNING **: Failed to find xml settings for position 8385 id 29.
 99 error

** (gdigi:3713): WARNING **: Failed to find xml settings for position 8386 id 29.
100 error

** (gdigi:3713): WARNING **: Failed to find xml settings for position 8384 id 30.
101 error

** (gdigi:3713): WARNING **: Failed to find xml settings for position 8385 id 30.
102 error

** (gdigi:3713): WARNING **: Failed to find xml settings for position 8386 id 30.
103 error

** (gdigi:3713): WARNING **: Failed to find xml settings for position 8384 id 31.
104 error

** (gdigi:3713): WARNING **: Failed to find xml settings for position 8385 id 31.
105 error

** (gdigi:3713): WARNING **: Failed to find xml settings for position 8386 id 31.
106 error

** (gdigi:3713): WARNING **: Failed to find xml settings for position 8384 id 32.
107 error

** (gdigi:3713): WARNING **: Failed to find xml settings for position 8385 id 32.
108 error

** (gdigi:3713): WARNING **: Failed to find xml settings for position 8386 id 32.
109 error
TOTAL 109
RECEIVE_MODIFIER_LINKABLE_LIST: Group 1 count 44

Position : 0
ID       : 0
Name     : None

Position : 4
ID       : 193
Name     : Compressor Enable

Position : 4
ID       : 208
Name     : Compressor Sustain

Position : 4
ID       : 209
Name     : Compressor Tone

Position : 4
ID       : 211
Name     : Compressor Attack

Position : 4
ID       : 210
Name     : Compressor Level

Position : 6
ID       : 2433
Name     : Dist Enable

Position : 6
ID       : 2565
Name     : (null)

Position : 6
ID       : 2566
Name     : (null)

Position : 6
ID       : 2567
Name     : (null)

Position : 8
ID       : 2497
ID       : 848
Name     : Chorus Width

Position : 14
ID       : 849
Name     : Chorus Intensity


Position : 15
ID       : 1857
Name     : Delay Enable

Position : 15
ID       : 1874
Name     : (null)

Position : 15
ID       : 1904
Name     : (null)

Position : 15
ID       : 1893
Name     : (null)
please help !

Achim
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