An interesting theoretical perspective

[Roger]

I have a note from a freelance researcher in Italy whose name is Alessandro Rizzo. He says,

I believe that your project about Global Consciousness has serious foundations. I support you with my theory of special biorelativity and with the experiments and physical previsions exposed in http://biorelativity.com

The website, which is in Wikipedia style, is well done and illustrated with beautiful graphics. It looks like there are unwarranted leaps, but it is mostly mathematical argument that is out of my range. Perhaps someone of you knows Rizzo's work, or can comment on this presentation.

Roger

[Roger]

In the meantime, I have had some other commentary and the verdict is don't waste your time. The graphics are pretty but the content is pretty much disconnected from any sort of reality.

On Saturday, September 1, 2012 10:00:08 AM UTC-4, Roger wrote: about Alessandro Rizzo website.

[notwalker1]

    Something feels very wrong about the direction of these past few posts.


On 9/7/2012 10:16 AM, Rocco wrote:

It is unfortunate that concepts pertaining to the structure of the Universe eventually become fodder for many 'wanna be gurus'.  The math discussed on   http://biorelativity.com is borderline nonsense.  Essentially a loose construction of abstract concepts with a nominal assignment (in this case 1 or 0).  The bottom line of this particular website seems to be attempting to demonstrate a connection between synaptic connections in the human brain and interstellar photons.  The how or why is beyond my comprehension.  However, there is a historical thread that goes back to David K. Miller (biorelativity expert).  He is the 'wanna be guru' who purchased Godlike  Productions website and domain name.  In more simple terms..biorelativity is the communication between all existing life on the planet and as such would have the ability to cause specific changes such as changes in weather in a particular area of the planet.  It is this aspect where your overseas contact is making a connection to GCP.  Is there any reality to all of this?  This is actually testable.  Gather a very large group to focus attention on something (such as the weather in a particular location), have your eggbasket enabled in that area a measure pre and post differences.  The result would be a test of interconnection (if any ) between people that uses only a focus of thought.  It doesn't matter if the weather changes,,,,but is there a measurable event?   

  

On Saturday, September 1, 2012 4:51:54 PM UTC-6, Roger wrote:

In the meantime, I have had some other commentary and the verdict is don't waste your time. The graphics are pretty but the content is pretty much disconnected from any sort of reality.

On Saturday, September 1, 2012 10:00:08 AM UTC-4, Roger wrote: about Alessandro Rizzo website.

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[Rocco]

What direction are you talking about?  So far they seem to be observations and opinions.

[wal...@occasion-to-be.com]

                I don't know much about David K miller , but is there any proof that he is associated with Godlike  Productions? Some people are searching for an understanding and proof of this " Global consciousness connection " . For some , even if Math could prove , there still would be no understanding. Just guts and feeling and even a sort of blind faith of a higher connectivity of the life as a whole.

[Rocco]

You are Correct ....My mistake....he posts on Godlike Productions..

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message479997/pg1 

I mixed up Godlike Productions with the Group Of Forty

http://groupofforty.com/lectures/biorelativity.html

Many mea culpas

Rocco

[Roger Nelson]

I was very happy to read Rocco's post. I gave a link to the
biorelativity website to see what others thought of it. To me it seemed
flaky (to put it in generous terms), and I wanted some other opinions. I
confess also that I think we all need some practice distinguishing the
insightful from the incredible, and the biorelativity claims, I thought,
were very much in the latter realm. In another venue I asked the same
question and half a dozen people opined that this was pretty close to
word-salad.

So, I ask also, with Rocco -- what do you mean when you say something
feels very wrong ... We need to make an effort to communicate meaning
along with feeling.

Roger

On 9/7/2012 6:52 PM, Rocco wrote:

> What direction are you talking about? So far they seem to be
> observations and opinions.
>
> On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 4:35 PM, notwalker1 <notwa...@gmail.com
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>
> Something feels very wrong about the direction of these past
> few posts.
>
>
> On 9/7/2012 10:16 AM, Rocco wrote:
>> It is unfortunate that concepts pertaining to the structure of the
>> Universe eventually become fodder for many 'wanna be gurus'. The
>> math discussed on http://biorelativity.com

>> <http://biorelativity.com/> is borderline nonsense. Essentially a

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[wal...@occasion-to-be.com]

Hi Roger,
I think I sorted that out with Rocco. It was the association
of David K Miller with Godlike Productions. I didn't want to seem
accusatory but it just didn't sound right. Turns out a was entertaining
a paranoid conspiracy theory created in my own head. I too share the
same general consensus biorelativity.com . I was just afraid there was
an attempt to discredit the site through association with another site.
Turns out there wasn't .

[Alessandro Rizzo]

Hi all,
I am alessandro I am very sorry to listen by all of you as a "word-salad" my theory of gravity of coherent light. My theory simply says coherent light generates a frame dragging of the vacuum with conseguent gravitational effects. There are many personal efforts during this years to describe mathematically the consciouness phenomen throught a tensor of informations as coherent electromagnetical activity of mirror neurons. The integrity of this function is simply the knownledge of an experiment, just the coherent relation between observer informations and the obseved informations. As simply shown by Mandel experiment in the 1991 in the University of Rochester the mere potential for knowledge of a photon's path destroyed its interference pattern. The theory of special biorelativity expresses that "information in its unity rather than direct intervention destroys wavelike behavior of the particles". This is not a familiar concept ,I know, but read at http://www.rochester.edu/pr/releases/phys/mand2.htm. There is no mathematics in Miller concepts of biorelativity and no reference to all these equations to define mathematically this extreme efforts to define origins of life and of DNA. He talks about Arthurians temples and other spiritual thinks like this but Sirs this is not my theory. My intention is to use mathematics by tensors to describe the life and consciousness phenomenon in matter. I said clearly that synapses in a brain is not based only on acetylcholine's connections as ACh bidirectional receptors (C7NH16O+2) but in a more sophisticated way of ephaptic transmission by virtual synapses. In simple words coherent electromagnetical activity of mirror neurons, generates an effect of quantum gravity with very tiny spacetime currents or "whormholes" among mirror neurons which try to explain the quantum mechanical tunneling effects in brain's signals. This tiny spacetime currents generates a gravito-electomagnetical force (GEM) more strong then gravity. To deeply understand the real and powerful entity of the observer's gravity in the knownledge of an experiment here Sirs a clear Gedankenexperiment that shows the effects of the biorelativistic informational tensor. Quantum Young's double slit experiment is equivalent to relativistic gravitational lensis in the cosmic scale. I simply say is possible to demonstrate that interference patterns of quasar's light near a massive galaxy can be destroyed by the observer's knowledge of quasar's light path throught photons' revelation as particles in one of two cosmic paths. If someone demostrate the contrary I am wrong but If someone demostrate this cosmic experiment I am right Sirs. Thanks for you attention
Best Regards to everybody
Alessandro Rizzo

[Rocco]

It is unfortunate that concepts pertaining to the structure of the Universe eventually become fodder for many 'wanna be gurus'.  The math discussed on   http://biorelativity.com is borderline nonsense.  Essentially a loose construction of abstract concepts with a nominal assignment (in this case 1 or 0).  The bottom line of this particular website seems to be attempting to demonstrate a connection between synaptic connections in the human brain and interstellar photons.  The how or why is beyond my comprehension.  However, there is a historical thread that goes back to David K. Miller (biorelativity expert).  He is the 'wanna be guru' who purchased Godlike  Productions website and domain name.  In more simple terms..biorelativity is the communication between all existing life on the planet and as such would have the ability to cause specific changes such as changes in weather in a particular area of the planet.  It is this aspect where your overseas contact is making a connection to GCP.  Is there any reality to all of this?  This is actually testable.  Gather a very large group to focus attention on something (such as the weather in a particular location), have your eggbasket enabled in that area a measure pre and post differences.  The result would be a test of interconnection (if any ) between people that uses only a focus of thought.  It doesn't matter if the weather changes,,,,but is there a measurable event?   

  

On Saturday, September 1, 2012 4:51:54 PM UTC-6, Roger wrote: