Creon's role and Oedipus' reaction
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mallory
Sep 16, 2008, 11:21:52 AM9/16/08
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Explain Creon's role in the first part of the play. What is his
explanation for not solving the murder of the King? Describe how
Oedipus reacts to what Creon tells him? Why might this be ironic?
explanation for not solving the murder of the King? Describe how
Oedipus reacts to what Creon tells him? Why might this be ironic?
tylern
Sep 16, 2008, 3:07:43 PM9/16/08
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The murder wasn't solved before because of the sphinx coming and
interrupting. This ultimatly caused Oedipus to become king.
interrupting. This ultimatly caused Oedipus to become king.
bpaterni
Sep 16, 2008, 6:34:05 PM9/16/08
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Creon enters as a messenger from the prophet god (not sure), Phoebus.
He tells Oedipus that the plague is a result of the injustice done on
King Laius' murderer. Oedipus reacts by assuring the chorus (Theban
Elders) that he will help find the killer and serve justice as
necessary. This is ironic because Oedipus is, in fact, his father's
(King Laius) killer.
Actually, I find this quite Ironic. Because if you remove a period in
between a couple sentences on page 29 it reads, "Not merely from a
fellow-creature will I clear this taint, but from myself, the killer
of Laius..."
Without the period after 'myself', Oedipus would be clearly
identifying himself as the murderer of King Laius.
He tells Oedipus that the plague is a result of the injustice done on
King Laius' murderer. Oedipus reacts by assuring the chorus (Theban
Elders) that he will help find the killer and serve justice as
necessary. This is ironic because Oedipus is, in fact, his father's
(King Laius) killer.
Actually, I find this quite Ironic. Because if you remove a period in
between a couple sentences on page 29 it reads, "Not merely from a
fellow-creature will I clear this taint, but from myself, the killer
of Laius..."
Without the period after 'myself', Oedipus would be clearly
identifying himself as the murderer of King Laius.
Brittanee Deeringer
Sep 16, 2008, 10:02:49 PM9/16/08
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Creon is trying make Oedipus believe he did in fact murder Laius. Its
kind of like Oedipus hit a brick wall and its all starting to come
back to him after talking to his wife.
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kind of like Oedipus hit a brick wall and its all starting to come
back to him after talking to his wife.
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jordan n.
Sep 16, 2008, 10:15:46 PM9/16/08
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what i got out of the book so far is Oedipus is the reason of the
plague because he killed Laius the other king so he could become king.
So Oedipus is the killer but part of the search team to find who
killed the former king, so he is accusing others and leading everyone
away from himself, but the people are smarter than he thinks and are
starting to catch on it seems.
plague because he killed Laius the other king so he could become king.
So Oedipus is the killer but part of the search team to find who
killed the former king, so he is accusing others and leading everyone
away from himself, but the people are smarter than he thinks and are
starting to catch on it seems.
Adrianne
Sep 16, 2008, 10:37:57 PM9/16/08
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Creon's role in the first part of the play is to go and find these
gods that will
let Oedipus know how to get ride of the plague. Oedipus learns that
they need to
banish or kill the murderer of the former king. Creon doesnt have an
explaination for who
killed the former king. Oedipus then accuses Creon of plotting bad
things against to make it
seem like he was the one who killed the former king. The ironic thing
was Oedipus says he will
help find the killer and put him to justice when he is the killer.
gods that will
let Oedipus know how to get ride of the plague. Oedipus learns that
they need to
banish or kill the murderer of the former king. Creon doesnt have an
explaination for who
killed the former king. Oedipus then accuses Creon of plotting bad
things against to make it
seem like he was the one who killed the former king. The ironic thing
was Oedipus says he will
help find the killer and put him to justice when he is the killer.
On Sep 16, 10:21 am, mallory <09malsc...@gaggle.net> wrote:
Nick M
Sep 16, 2008, 10:55:20 PM9/16/08
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Creon is a messenger from Phoebus with news about what to do to stop
all of the deaths in his town. Creon tells him that he is supposed to
kill or bannish whoever killed their former king, King Laius. he talks
to his wife who i think is actually his mom and he figures out that he
is the one who killed King Laius, Oedipus's dad. this is ironic
because he has been searching for the killer when he actually was the
true killer.
all of the deaths in his town. Creon tells him that he is supposed to
kill or bannish whoever killed their former king, King Laius. he talks
to his wife who i think is actually his mom and he figures out that he
is the one who killed King Laius, Oedipus's dad. this is ironic
because he has been searching for the killer when he actually was the
true killer.
Shelby
Sep 16, 2008, 11:04:21 PM9/16/08
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Creon is giving Oedipus all the details on the old kings murder. They
never solved it before because only one guy that was there lived and
he didn't know who it was or something like that. Oedipus starts to
realize during the story that it may have been himself that killed the
king. It would be ironic that he unintentionally killed the king and
again unintentionally replaced him as king.
never solved it before because only one guy that was there lived and
he didn't know who it was or something like that. Oedipus starts to
realize during the story that it may have been himself that killed the
king. It would be ironic that he unintentionally killed the king and
again unintentionally replaced him as king.
Ryan
Sep 16, 2008, 11:22:54 PM9/16/08
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Creon is telling Oedipus what he had learned. The reason why the
murder hasn't been solved is because the Sphinx interrupting with it's
riddle that no one has figured out.
murder hasn't been solved is because the Sphinx interrupting with it's
riddle that no one has figured out.
AmandaStefl
Sep 16, 2008, 11:31:32 PM9/16/08
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I think that Creon wants Oedipus to have the realization for
himself... but i'm not sure if Creon knows that Oedipus was really the
one to kill his father or not.. but Oedipus doesn't believe him and
thinks this is just his plan to drive O away. But not if its just
ironic or if Creon does know whats going on or not
himself... but i'm not sure if Creon knows that Oedipus was really the
one to kill his father or not.. but Oedipus doesn't believe him and
thinks this is just his plan to drive O away. But not if its just
ironic or if Creon does know whats going on or not
bpaterni
Sep 17, 2008, 12:38:20 AM9/17/08
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As I read the rest of the assigned reading I discovered another
example of irony. (I admit, I do tend to nod off during class time)
Anyways, the irony I found was that Tiresias is a blind prophet who is
able to 'see' what really is. On the flip-side though, Oedipus still
has his sight, but cannot see the truth that's before him. This is why
I think he gouges his eyes out in the end. He gets so pissed off with
himself that he ultimately decides he can't see worth a damn anyway,
so what's the point?
example of irony. (I admit, I do tend to nod off during class time)
Anyways, the irony I found was that Tiresias is a blind prophet who is
able to 'see' what really is. On the flip-side though, Oedipus still
has his sight, but cannot see the truth that's before him. This is why
I think he gouges his eyes out in the end. He gets so pissed off with
himself that he ultimately decides he can't see worth a damn anyway,
so what's the point?
day
Sep 17, 2008, 10:25:06 AM9/17/08
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so the person who solved the riddle got to be king and that was O so
now he is married to his mom because someone killed his dad
now he is married to his mom because someone killed his dad
Treye
Sep 17, 2008, 10:30:59 AM9/17/08
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Oedipus reacts very poorly to Creon when he was just trying to help
him solve the riddle by bringing in the prophet. Oedipus is told that
he is the reason the people are suffering and that it is he who will
be exiled. Oedipus thinks that Creon set the prophet up to telling him
all these things and starts shouting at him. Creon said the reason for
not solving the murder of the king was because the sphinx kept them
there and they had no need to figure it out. This is ironic because
know Oedipus is under suspicion for the murder.
him solve the riddle by bringing in the prophet. Oedipus is told that
he is the reason the people are suffering and that it is he who will
be exiled. Oedipus thinks that Creon set the prophet up to telling him
all these things and starts shouting at him. Creon said the reason for
not solving the murder of the king was because the sphinx kept them
there and they had no need to figure it out. This is ironic because
know Oedipus is under suspicion for the murder.
shuey
Sep 17, 2008, 10:34:30 AM9/17/08
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Creon's role in the fist part of the play is to help out with his
sisters husband the king. He said that when they went to solve the
murder they started to become sick. Oedipus thinks that he is trying
to blame him for the people being sick. He remembers seeing a person
that look like the king.
sisters husband the king. He said that when they went to solve the
murder they started to become sick. Oedipus thinks that he is trying
to blame him for the people being sick. He remembers seeing a person
that look like the king.
Mr. Slave
Sep 17, 2008, 10:34:37 AM9/17/08
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Creon is a messenger from Phoebus. He tells Odipeus to kill who is
ever killed the king. So he kills the Sphinx and end up killing his
dad somehow. but since he kill the Sphinx the the king is dead, he
gets the priviledge of marrying the queen who end up being His Mom,
which is really weird and had to have been awkward! So he like scraps
out his eyes and runs away.
ever killed the king. So he kills the Sphinx and end up killing his
dad somehow. but since he kill the Sphinx the the king is dead, he
gets the priviledge of marrying the queen who end up being His Mom,
which is really weird and had to have been awkward! So he like scraps
out his eyes and runs away.
sharp
Sep 17, 2008, 10:34:48 AM9/17/08
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What I understand from the book is that Oedipus kills his father and
becomes the king by solving the sphinx riddle. He then marrys the
kings wife which must be his mother and his queens brother which tells
of the king being killed which is ironic because Oedipus kills the
king.
becomes the king by solving the sphinx riddle. He then marrys the
kings wife which must be his mother and his queens brother which tells
of the king being killed which is ironic because Oedipus kills the
king.
nathan
Sep 17, 2008, 11:19:17 AM9/17/08
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Creon is the messanger in the first part of the play. Shinx intervened
and no one could solve the riddle. He gets mad and says creon is
planning bad things against him. It might be ironic because bad things
were gunna happen to oedipus.
and no one could solve the riddle. He gets mad and says creon is
planning bad things against him. It might be ironic because bad things
were gunna happen to oedipus.
Trevor
Sep 17, 2008, 11:19:19 AM9/17/08
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So far i think that Creon is a messenger from Phoebus. He says that
the plague is his fault and that it is occurring because he killed his
father King Laius'. The other part that he plays is going to the gods
and seeing what they will do with Oedipus for his actions.
the plague is his fault and that it is occurring because he killed his
father King Laius'. The other part that he plays is going to the gods
and seeing what they will do with Oedipus for his actions.
KSchoolman
Sep 17, 2008, 11:35:22 AM9/17/08
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Brian Paterni. I love your posts. I understand everything so much
better after i read your posts. Thank you.
better after i read your posts. Thank you.
Dalen
Sep 17, 2008, 11:40:07 AM9/17/08
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Alright so there is a plague and the reason for it is because somebody
killed somebody but im not too sure who. Creon is the guy who tells
everyone why there is a plague. Oedipus wants to find the killer and
serve him his justice.
killed somebody but im not too sure who. Creon is the guy who tells
everyone why there is a plague. Oedipus wants to find the killer and
serve him his justice.
Brittany
Sep 17, 2008, 11:47:22 AM9/17/08
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Creon is a messenger who was going around telling of the death of the
King and how to prevent further deaths. Oedipus was searching for the
murderer of the King who was actually his father. It turns out that
Oedipus talked with his mother and found out that he was the killer of
his father. This is ironic because Oedipus was searching for the
murderer when it came out to be him himself.
King and how to prevent further deaths. Oedipus was searching for the
murderer of the King who was actually his father. It turns out that
Oedipus talked with his mother and found out that he was the killer of
his father. This is ironic because Oedipus was searching for the
murderer when it came out to be him himself.
Janae Nibbelink
Sep 17, 2008, 11:54:39 AM9/17/08
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Ceronis Oedipus' "brother-in-law". He told the king that the murder of
the last king was because of the troubles with the sphinx. When ceron
gives news that contrdidted the known story of Lauis' murder Oedipus
thinks that ceron is planning a coup.
the last king was because of the troubles with the sphinx. When ceron
gives news that contrdidted the known story of Lauis' murder Oedipus
thinks that ceron is planning a coup.
Chris
Sep 17, 2008, 12:11:03 PM9/17/08
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Creon's role is the messenger of god. He tells Oedipus that the murder
is still unsolved because the sphinx distracted them with the riddles.
He basically says that he will help with the investigation. It is
ironic because he is trying to find himself because it turns out that
he is the killer.
is still unsolved because the sphinx distracted them with the riddles.
He basically says that he will help with the investigation. It is
ironic because he is trying to find himself because it turns out that
he is the killer.
Zinnel
Sep 17, 2008, 12:14:03 PM9/17/08
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Creon's is the brother of O's wife (his mother), and he brings back a
message form the god Apollo. Apollo tells Creon that the murder of the
former king Laius must be solved. Creon says that the reason why the
case was never solved before is because there where no witnesses. But
the order had to have come form the town. O says that if the killer is
found he will be killed or exiled. This is ironic because O killed
Laius.
message form the god Apollo. Apollo tells Creon that the murder of the
former king Laius must be solved. Creon says that the reason why the
case was never solved before is because there where no witnesses. But
the order had to have come form the town. O says that if the killer is
found he will be killed or exiled. This is ironic because O killed
Laius.
spenc
Sep 17, 2008, 12:30:07 PM9/17/08
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Creon was a messenger in the beginning of the play. The explanation
for not solving the murder was that the sphinx showed up and
everything and they just forgot about it. Creon tells him what apollo
says and then Oedipus goes and tells the people whoever did it will
get banished.
for not solving the murder was that the sphinx showed up and
everything and they just forgot about it. Creon tells him what apollo
says and then Oedipus goes and tells the people whoever did it will
get banished.
bpaterni
Sep 17, 2008, 10:50:57 PM9/17/08
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Thanks Keri, I really appreciate the lovin' and I'm glad I could be of
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some help!
Ed
Sep 18, 2008, 9:07:47 AM9/18/08
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his role is to tell the king that he is the murderer and the king is
stunned by this and he can't and doesn't believe that it is him. he is
very angry and not believing
stunned by this and he can't and doesn't believe that it is him. he is
very angry and not believing
Ashley
Sep 18, 2008, 9:08:07 AM9/18/08
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creon tries to show oedipus that he murdered lauis and they didn't
know this before becuase the spinx had to tell her riddle and
interupted it.
know this before becuase the spinx had to tell her riddle and
interupted it.
Katherine
Sep 18, 2008, 11:02:21 AM9/18/08
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Through telling Oedipus his story of the king's murder, Creon gets
Oedipus to realize he may have been the one to kill Laius, causing the
plague to come over their town. Oedipus says how he will find the
killer, and save his people from the plague.
Oedipus to realize he may have been the one to kill Laius, causing the
plague to come over their town. Oedipus says how he will find the
killer, and save his people from the plague.
Joc
Sep 18, 2008, 11:58:54 AM9/18/08
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Creon's role in the first part of the play is to get rid of the
plauge. Then Oepidus' learns that they need to kill the king. Oepidus'
doesnt want to get blammed for it so he puts it off on Creon.
plauge. Then Oepidus' learns that they need to kill the king. Oepidus'
doesnt want to get blammed for it so he puts it off on Creon.
Jenn
Sep 18, 2008, 12:00:34 PM9/18/08
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Creons role is a messenger in the first part of the play. Oedipus says
that they need to kill the murderer of the King and he says that Creon
is setting bad plots about him to make him look like the killer of the
former kill. He has says that they need to find and kill the murderer
of the king and he is actually the murderer of the king.
that they need to kill the murderer of the King and he says that Creon
is setting bad plots about him to make him look like the killer of the
former kill. He has says that they need to find and kill the murderer
of the king and he is actually the murderer of the king.
morgan jo
Sep 18, 2008, 12:07:22 PM9/18/08
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Creon's role in the play is to find out how to end the plague. Oedipus
learns that they need to banish or murder the murderer of the late
king. No one would step forward, but if they would when they ask
everyone, the punishment would not be as great, but if not, they would
be banished or killed. No one steps up to reveal the murderer. Creon
is being blamed for the murder of the king, and it is ironic thing is,
is that he says that he will try to find the murderer when he is the
murderer.
learns that they need to banish or murder the murderer of the late
king. No one would step forward, but if they would when they ask
everyone, the punishment would not be as great, but if not, they would
be banished or killed. No one steps up to reveal the murderer. Creon
is being blamed for the murder of the king, and it is ironic thing is,
is that he says that he will try to find the murderer when he is the
murderer.
Jesse
Sep 18, 2008, 12:21:50 PM9/18/08
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Creon is a messenger for Phoebus and tells Oedipus that the black
plague was caused by the death of King Laius.
plague was caused by the death of King Laius.
Jess
Sep 19, 2008, 1:11:38 PM9/19/08
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Creon is Jocasta's brother. He tells Oedipus that to get rid of the
plauge that is killing their people, they have to get rid of Lauis'
killer. But they don't know who his killer is. Oedipus is mad because
he doesn't understand why the murder hasn't been solved and that it
needs to be solved and the person will be severly punished. It's
ironic becuase Oedipus is the one who killed him.
plauge that is killing their people, they have to get rid of Lauis'
killer. But they don't know who his killer is. Oedipus is mad because
he doesn't understand why the murder hasn't been solved and that it
needs to be solved and the person will be severly punished. It's
ironic becuase Oedipus is the one who killed him.
jacy
Sep 20, 2008, 2:40:22 PM9/20/08
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Creon is Jocasta's (Oedipus's queen) brother. He wants to find out who
murdered Lauis. Oedipus wants to find out who killed Lauis also so
they can be banished or punished by death. This is ironic because
Oedipus very badly wants to have justice for Lauis although he is the
one that killed him.
murdered Lauis. Oedipus wants to find out who killed Lauis also so
they can be banished or punished by death. This is ironic because
Oedipus very badly wants to have justice for Lauis although he is the
one that killed him.
taylor
Sep 21, 2008, 4:09:38 PM9/21/08
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creon is a messenger who is telling Oedipus that he killed his father
and married his mother. Oedipus cant believe what he is hearing and
had a hard time beliveing it.
and married his mother. Oedipus cant believe what he is hearing and
had a hard time beliveing it.
Angel K.
Sep 21, 2008, 11:32:40 PM9/21/08
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Odeipus is told to kill who ever killed the king by Creon, who is a
messenger, that is
trying to tell him he killed King Laius.
Odeipus then becomes king.
He is then able to marry his lover, which apparently is his mother?
Then he finds out that he is the killer and gets mad. Which is pretty
ironic.
messenger, that is
trying to tell him he killed King Laius.
Odeipus then becomes king.
He is then able to marry his lover, which apparently is his mother?
Then he finds out that he is the killer and gets mad. Which is pretty
ironic.
Kayla
Sep 22, 2008, 8:52:58 AM9/22/08
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Creon is a messenger
day
Sep 22, 2008, 10:40:08 AM9/22/08
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o thinks that creon iss baming him for the plueg and the death
DUNNICK
Sep 22, 2008, 11:17:21 AM9/22/08
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Creon's role is to bring a message back from Apollo. The murder has not been solved because of the Sphinx inturrupting with it's riddle that no one has figured out yet. Oedipus will banish anyone that started the plague.
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Matejka
Sep 22, 2008, 11:48:46 AM9/22/08
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oedipus kills his father and solves the riddle and becomes king. He
marrys his mom then his step brother tells of the king being killed
which Oedipus kills the king.
marrys his mom then his step brother tells of the king being killed
which Oedipus kills the king.
Freese
Sep 22, 2008, 10:48:27 PM9/22/08
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creon is a messenger. he is trying to stop all the deaths or the
plauge. the way i read it was that oedipus didn't know he killed his
father. i believe thats ironic. its crazy how oedipus wants to help
find the killer and it his him the whole time
plauge. the way i read it was that oedipus didn't know he killed his
father. i believe thats ironic. its crazy how oedipus wants to help
find the killer and it his him the whole time
mallory
Sep 23, 2008, 5:11:37 PM9/23/08
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he is the messenger and tells O about the sickness and tells him he
will help him find who killed his father.
will help him find who killed his father.
shuey
Sep 24, 2008, 8:32:38 AM9/24/08
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Creon tells Oedipus that the king has been murdered. The whole town
was getting sick and the couldn't solve it because the town was sick.
Oedipus is mad and tells them that he will find the killer. Oedipus
ended the sickness in the town.
was getting sick and the couldn't solve it because the town was sick.
Oedipus is mad and tells them that he will find the killer. Oedipus
ended the sickness in the town.
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