We have no power unless we go to court, they know this which is why they do
nothing.
We can only wait until the independent resolution committee is set-up and
try through them.
If not successful there, then we are at the developer's mercy and must
choose for ourselves what to do.
Christopher
-----Original Message-----
From: gcdinvestor group [mailto:nor...@googlegroups.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 4:22 PM
To: gcdinvestor digest subscribers
Subject: gcdinvestor - 10 new messages in 2 topics - digest
gcdinvestor
http://groups.google.com/group/gcdinvestor?hl=en
Today's topics:
* MY 2 cents -- as a MEMBER of this GROUP - 4 messages, 4 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/gcdinvestor/t/3ca7985bc3a9a3a2?hl=en
* Responses so far - 6 messages, 4 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/gcdinvestor/t/ca753790edae430d?hl=en
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==
TOPIC: MY 2 cents -- as a MEMBER of this GROUP
http://groups.google.com/group/gcdinvestor/t/3ca7985bc3a9a3a2?hl=en
============================================================================
==
== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 8 2009 2:54 am
From: ADMIN gcd investor group
Dear all ,
I am writing this as a member of the group.
First at the outset let me tell you that some of you may not agree to what i
have to say .It suits me fine . Ill accept it whatever it may be.
I have been handling this group since its inception .I had a personal
instance with some of the members feeling this whole issue may not be
genuine etc etc. Iaccpted what he/she had to say and finally today that
person is a member of this group seeing our strenght in numbers.
All must undersand that our primary purpose is to GET our Moneys worth .We
need our units and sooner the better .This is the best thing that makes
economic sense ruling out cancelations . Cancellations are a different ball
game altogether .I personally can assure any one trying to cancel his unit
will not getanything back till the end of next year if they opt for
cancellation.
Now coming to the primary purpose we want our units and we need them soon.
STAR GIGA has been non responding to our communications. Do all of us want
contracts or do we need our units . I know ill take a lot of flak for this
but even of those who have a rental gaurantee worded in their contract has
ARRA been able to help you with it ?
What i am trying to achieve is we need to have a proper way to get our
issues addressed . A conflict with the developer in no way helps in any
thing. We need teeth for our purpose. I dont mean to sound pessimistic but
will sending a letter SUFFICE .
WHAT NEXT ?
Personally i have tried letters , mails meetings but of no avail it lands no
where . Construction has been stopped (GCD1) or not started yet on other
projects .I feel we need to get working so the projects start working fast.
No one needs their money to be stuck in a rut like this .The faster we get
out of this the better it is for all of us. The more delay the more painful
it is for all of us.
Let us see now how STAR GIGA responds .? This could be any bodys guess .
I have my fingers crossed . I dont expect any action from star giga from the
signing of the letter and asking them to respond .
All i am asking you my dear friends is that what do we do now ?
Legal action at this stage seems to be a forgone conclusion in the light of
the economic scenario world wide. We can never expect a favourable decision
in our favour as the developers side the governments and in no way in our
favour will a decision be granted.
I have a sugesstion is to force a meeting with the TOP management and get
their perspective on this and what t hey wish to say
Once we know this then we can proceed .
GCD INVESTOR
== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 8 2009 4:24 am
From: "Rauf, Abdur"
Folks,
All comments are valuable as comments are comments and should not be ignored
Robert also has a point and so do you and Sam and all others from the
company called www.Cracknell.com<http://www.Cracknell.com>
Let me request that we need the following visibility
1. Complete data of all the people who have responded with their names
etc to eb sent to this list
2. We need to see the letter before we can send the jpeg versions of
our signature to ensure that they are utilised appropriately
3. We also need to see the letter for review and provide our comments
before it goes to Star Giga
Individual interests can never be completely and wholly met in a group but
the main agenda should be clear and concise and which is what I believe is
happening
Regards
From: gcdin...@googlegroups.com [mailto:gcdin...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of ADMIN gcd investor group
Sent: 08 September 2009 10:55
To: gcdin...@googlegroups.com
Subject: MY 2 cents -- as a MEMBER of this GROUP
Dear all ,
I am writing this as a member of the group.
First at the outset let me tell you that some of you may not agree to what i
have to say .It suits me fine . Ill accept it whatever it may be.
I have been handling this group since its inception .I had a personal
instance with some of the members feeling this whole issue may not be
genuine etc etc. Iaccpted what he/she had to say and finally today that
person is a member of this group seeing our strenght in numbers.
All must undersand that our primary purpose is to GET our Moneys worth .We
need our units and sooner the better .This is the best thing that makes
economic sense ruling out cancelations . Cancellations are a different ball
game altogether .I personally can assure any one trying to cancel his unit
will not getanything back till the end of next year if they opt for
cancellation.
Now coming to the primary purpose we want our units and we need them soon.
STAR GIGA has been non responding to our communications. Do all of us want
contracts or do we need our units . I know ill take a lot of flak for this
but even of those who have a rental gaurantee worded in their contract has
ARRA been able to help you with it ?
What i am trying to achieve is we need to have a proper way to get our
issues addressed . A conflict with the developer in no way helps in any
thing. We need teeth for our purpose. I dont mean to sound pessimistic but
will sending a letter SUFFICE .
WHAT NEXT ?
Personally i have tried letters , mails meetings but of no avail it lands no
where . Construction has been stopped (GCD1) or not started yet on other
projects .I feel we need to get working so the projects start working fast.
No one needs their money to be stuck in a rut like this .The faster we get
out of this the better it is for all of us. The more delay the more painful
it is for all of us.
Let us see now how STAR GIGA responds .? This could be any bodys guess .
I have my fingers crossed . I dont expect any action from star giga from the
signing of the letter and asking them to respond .
All i am asking you my dear friends is that what do we do now ?
Legal action at this stage seems to be a forgone conclusion in the light of
the economic scenario world wide. We can never expect a favourable decision
in our favour as the developers side the governments and in no way in our
favour will a decision be granted.
I have a sugesstion is to force a meeting with the TOP management and get
their perspective on this and what t hey wish to say
Once we know this then we can proceed .
GCD INVESTOR
== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 8 2009 4:50 am
From: gopi bezzala
hey, does anyone of u have a number? i'm a gcd investor based in kuwait and
will be visiting dubai sept.17-22. i would really like to meet some gcd
investors and get involved! anyone, send me a number so i can call u quick!
gopi bezzala.
On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 2:24 PM, Rauf, Abdur <ar...@qualcomm.com> wrote:
> Folks,
>
>
>
> All comments are valuable as comments are comments and should not be
> ignored
>
>
>
> Robert also has a point and so do you and Sam and all others from the
> company called www.Cracknell.com <http://www.cracknell.com/>
>
>
>
> Let me request that we need the following visibility
>
>
>
> 1. Complete data of all the people who have responded with their
> names etc to eb sent to this list
>
> 2. We need to see the letter before we can send the jpeg versions of
> our signature to ensure that they are utilised appropriately
>
> 3. We also need to see the letter for review and provide our
> comments before it goes to Star Giga
>
>
>
> Individual interests can never be completely and wholly met in a group but
> the main agenda should be clear and concise and which is what I believe is
> happening
>
>
>
>
>
> Regards
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* gcdin...@googlegroups.com [mailto:gcdin...@googlegroups.com]
> *On Behalf Of *ADMIN gcd investor group
> *Sent:* 08 September 2009 10:55
> *To:* gcdin...@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* MY 2 cents -- as a MEMBER of this GROUP
>
>
>
> Dear all ,
>
> I am writing this as a member of the group.
>
>
>
> First at the outset let me tell you that some of you may not agree to what
> i have to say .It suits me fine . Ill accept it whatever it may be.
>
> I have been handling this group since its inception .I had a personal
> instance with some of the members feeling this whole issue may not be
> genuine etc etc. Iaccpted what he/she had to say and finally today that
> person is a member of this group seeing our strenght in numbers.
>
>
>
> All must undersand that our primary purpose is to GET our Moneys worth .We
> need our units and sooner the better .This is the best thing that makes
> economic sense ruling out cancelations . Cancellations are a different
ball
> game altogether .I personally can assure any one trying to cancel his unit
> will not getanything back till the end of next year if they opt for
> cancellation.
>
>
>
> Now coming to the primary purpose we want our units and we need them soon.
> STAR GIGA has been non responding to our communications. Do all of us want
> contracts or do we need our units . I know ill take a lot of flak for this
> but even of those who have a rental gaurantee worded in their contract has
> ARRA been able to help you with it ?
>
>
>
> What i am trying to achieve is we need to have a proper way to get our
> issues addressed . A conflict with the developer in no way helps in any
> thing. We need teeth for our purpose. I dont mean to sound pessimistic but
> will sending a letter SUFFICE .
>
> WHAT NEXT ?
>
>
>
> Personally i have tried letters , mails meetings but of no avail it lands
> no where . Construction has been stopped (GCD1) or not started yet on
other
> projects .I feel we need to get working so the projects start working
fast.
> No one needs their money to be stuck in a rut like this .The faster we get
> out of this the better it is for all of us. The more delay the more
painful
> it is for all of us.
>
>
>
> Let us see now how STAR GIGA responds .? This could be any bodys guess .
>
>
>
> I have my fingers crossed . I dont expect any action from star giga from
> the signing of the letter and asking them to respond .
>
>
>
>
>
> All i am asking you my dear friends is that what do we do now ?
>
> Legal action at this stage seems to be a forgone conclusion in the light
of
> the economic scenario world wide. We can never expect a favourable
decision
> in our favour as the developers side the governments and in no way in our
> favour will a decision be granted.
>
>
>
> I have a sugesstion is to force a meeting with the TOP management and get
> their perspective on this and what t hey wish to say
>
>
>
> Once we know this then we can proceed .
>
>
>
> GCD INVESTOR
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >
>
== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 8 2009 5:24 am
From: "ad"
Thanks. I fully agree with this suggestion.
The meeting - Sooner the better.
The letter drafted is indeed very good but is specifically targeted to GCD
4.
Regards
Robert
From: gcdin...@googlegroups.com [mailto:gcdin...@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of ADMIN gcd investor group
Sent: 08 September 2009 13:55
To: gcdin...@googlegroups.com
Subject: MY 2 cents -- as a MEMBER of this GROUP
Dear all ,
I am writing this as a member of the group.
First at the outset let me tell you that some of you may not agree to what i
have to say .It suits me fine . Ill accept it whatever it may be.
I have been handling this group since its inception .I had a personal
instance with some of the members feeling this whole issue may not be
genuine etc etc. Iaccpted what he/she had to say and finally today that
person is a member of this group seeing our strenght in numbers.
All must undersand that our primary purpose is to GET our Moneys worth .We
need our units and sooner the better .This is the best thing that makes
economic sense ruling out cancelations . Cancellations are a different ball
game altogether .I personally can assure any one trying to cancel his unit
will not getanything back till the end of next year if they opt for
cancellation.
Now coming to the primary purpose we want our units and we need them soon.
STAR GIGA has been non responding to our communications. Do all of us want
contracts or do we need our units . I know ill take a lot of flak for this
but even of those who have a rental gaurantee worded in their contract has
ARRA been able to help you with it ?
What i am trying to achieve is we need to have a proper way to get our
issues addressed . A conflict with the developer in no way helps in any
thing. We need teeth for our purpose. I dont mean to sound pessimistic but
will sending a letter SUFFICE .
WHAT NEXT ?
Personally i have tried letters , mails meetings but of no avail it lands no
where . Construction has been stopped (GCD1) or not started yet on other
projects .I feel we need to get working so the projects start working fast.
No one needs their money to be stuck in a rut like this .The faster we get
out of this the better it is for all of us. The more delay the more painful
it is for all of us.
Let us see now how STAR GIGA responds .? This could be any bodys guess .
I have my fingers crossed . I dont expect any action from star giga from the
signing of the letter and asking them to respond .
All i am asking you my dear friends is that what do we do now ?
Legal action at this stage seems to be a forgone conclusion in the light of
the economic scenario world wide. We can never expect a favourable decision
in our favour as the developers side the governments and in no way in our
favour will a decision be granted.
I have a sugesstion is to force a meeting with the TOP management and get
their perspective on this and what t hey wish to say
Once we know this then we can proceed .
GCD INVESTOR
============================================================================
==
TOPIC: Responses so far
http://groups.google.com/group/gcdinvestor/t/ca753790edae430d?hl=en
============================================================================
==
== 1 of 6 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 8 2009 7:00 am
From: Salim Chohan
can i have the copy of the letter being discussed..............please
salim at .........duba...@hotmail.com
> Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 19:24:48 -0700
> Subject: Re: Responses so far
> From: viturin...@gmail.com
> To: gcdin...@googlegroups.com
>
>
> Hello Robert AD,
>
> We are going ahead with the letter as proposed and e-mailed to all of
> us. Most have signed already by now. The more the merrier... :) Nobody
> is obliged to join. Its a free world.
> There is always a better solution to any and every current
> situation... but its better to have a solution in hand, then no
> solution and only discuss about a perfect solution that is in some
> undefined distance... <grin>
>
> I prefer to be part of this initiative and letter. Of course we all
> strive to the perfect solution. But all to often, the 100% perfect
> solution is almost impossible to be reached. Especially when taking a
> group into account - in a democracy, there never is a 100% perfect
> solution. 100% perfect solutions only exists in Kingdoms or
> Dictatorships - and then of course - all depends on the point of
> view . So we have to work for a 95% perfect solution (or whatever what
> percentage - please do not start to comment on the value now
> <smile>)... and move ahead. It then does not make sense to keep poking
> into the 5% which are not perfect - and hence endangering the 95%
> which would bring a substantial success.
>
> Robert, it's all too easy to find flaws and mistakes. But its not so
> easy to create better things, to improve. Its all too easy to destroy
> something - much harder than building it up. It does not take a genius
> to point out flaws and comment about mistakes. We all can do that. I
> also could find issues in that letter, I could also find issues in a
> letter written by you, or by anybody. Richelieu said to Luis XIV: Let
> any noble man write one single sentence on a sheet of paper, and I
> will be able to find a flaw in that one sentence to have him hanged...
> (he said that its too easy to find mistakes... too easy)
> It requires much more to improve the current situation, make things
> better, actually produce things....
>
> Of course, if there is a 97% or better solution available, then that
> should be considered... but of course, only if the previous 95% are
> not put at risk, and if the 97% really are better. But for that,
> again, it requires the detailed better solution at hand, and then
> again, every individual has the choice and option to decide. No need
> to spread public opinion based on ones personal opinion.
>
> In brief - yes, an individual letter for each project could be good -
> maybe yes, maybe no. But the fact is that there is a letter to ETA
> (for several projects) now which is being signed. And there is no
> letter for each individual project. So lets not just talk negative but
> put positive energy into the matter.
>
> Greetings.
>
>
>
> On Sep 7, 9:10 pm, "Robert A D " <a...@msn.com> wrote:
> > Thanks Rauf for sharing the investor opinions.
> > I find that there is a clash of interests between and as per contractual
agreements of each project. That is gcd, gcd2 etc etc.
> > Further the delay in submitting, even the draft of the letter, defeats
the forum cause. Such letter should have been submitted to ETA, before ETA
got ARRA approval.
> > I suggest that each project handle seperately.
> >
> > Comments welcome !
> >
> > Best is yet to come .......
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rauf Abdur <ar...@qualcomm.com>
> >
> > Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 12:23:05
> > To: <gcdin...@googlegroups.com>
> > Subject: Responses so far
> >
> > 1. There are currently 52 responses in total currently
> > 2. Almost Half of them have their contracts signed and the other half
has not signed their contracts
> > 3. Most people do not have apartments with rental guarantee( lets
reduce this as a focus for the time being)
> > 4. Goldcrest dreams and Gold Crest Dreams 3 are the major owners fo the
apartments
> > 5. Majority of the owners own 1 bedroom apartments
> > 6. An overwhelming majority WANT a price reduction and some want
delayed payments
> > 7. 31 out of 52 people want to physically go to ETA with the letter
> >
> >
> > This is a very good sign and now we need to review the draft before it
is finalised
> >
> >
> > 52responses
> > Summary
> > Name
> > Karena L. GomesMr Sipar AhmedKhaan AdeelDaniel ThomsonSyed Shahid
ImamDaniel ThomsonEugene de VilliersSyed Fattah JalilHaresh C Khatriamir
mbillyKarsan?????????lynne scottPrashant Kapoormunmun namat...
> >
> > Contract with ETA signed?
> >
> > http://chart.apis.google.com/chart?cht=p&chs=345x150&chco=000...
> >
> > YES
> > 24
> > 46%
> >
> > NO
> > 28
> > 54%
> > People may select more than one checkbox, so percentages may add up to
more than 100%.
> >
> >
> > Contract with Rental Guarantee?
> >
> > http://chart.apis.google.com/chart?cht=p&chs=345x150&chco=ff9...
> >
> > YES
> > 8
> > 15%
> >
> > NO
> > 24
> > 46%
> >
> > no Contract signed
> > 20
> > 38%
> > People may select more than one checkbox, so percentages may add up to
more than 100%.
> >
> >
> > Development
> >
> > Gold Crest Dreams 1
> > 17
> > 33%
> >
> > Gold Crest Dreams 2
> > 10
> > 19%
> >
> > Gold Crest Dreams 3
> > 1
> > 2%
> >
> > Gold Crest Dreams 4
> > 20
> > 38%
> >
> > Other
> > 4
> > 8%
> > People may select more than one checkbox, so percentages may add up to
more than 100%.
> >
> >
> > Type of Apartment
> >
> > http://chart.apis.google.com/chart?cht=p&chs=345x150&chco=dcc...
> >
> > Studio
> > 2
> > 4%
> >
> > 1 Bedroom
> > 37
> > 71%
> >
> > 2 Bedroom
> > 11
> > 21%
> >
> > 3 Bedroom
> > 0
> > 0%
> >
> > Other
> > 2
> > 4%
> > People may select more than one checkbox, so percentages may add up to
more than 100%.
> > Building-Unit
> > T03-1104Goldcrest Business Vistas Office 1403C-04Type F Tower 6 Unit
-910A-1206Tower 6 Unit 910C-09_2415Tower B Unit 2012C-908c-309c240C-7, A1 &
A2A -02unit 1315 tower 6Tower 2 1910C-01-111C-01-111b...
> > Location
> > Emirates CityEmirates CityEmirates CityEmirates CityEmirates
CityEmirates Cityemirates cityEmirates CityEmirates Cityemirates
cityemirates cityEmirates City?????? ????emirates cityEmirates Cityemira...
> > email
> >
karena.go...@gmail.comsiparahmed@talktalk.netkhanad...@hotmail.comdrthomson8
0...@hotmail.comsyedshahidi...@gmail.comdrthomosn80@hotmail.comarchig...@hotmai
l.coms...@googlemail.comshjdxb2...@gmail.co...
> > current residence
> > Dubai, UAELondon, UKKuwaitUAEUAEDubai,UAEdubai, uaeWoking, United
KingdomUAEcanadaLondon???????bahrainLondon, UKU.A.EU.A.Edubai, uaeDubai,
UAEOmanDubai, UAEUnited KingdomLondon, UKBahrainManama, Bah...
> > Cell phone
> > 0044771744174400965-66506736+971507984953050
893204305079849530504660851+44792126327400971508641289999990097339120774004
4-7834350470050-3416617050-341661705065114590505586015+96899434426050 342
8523...
> > Alternative contact
> > NA06 7445783+441483824128613 736
80558888800973177507890044-2085778199040-3357457040-335745704312530004 344
5417please contact via email0097317600431+982188441999971 04 344
541797143374291gcdinvesto...
> >
> > Discount Interested in
> >
> > Price Reduction
> > 33
> > 73%
> >
> > Furbished Apartment
> > 13
> > 29%
> >
> > Delayed Payment as per site progress
> > 29
> > 64%
> >
> > Increase features / quality
> > 10
> > 22%
> >
> > Other
> > 8
> > 18%
> > People may select more than one checkbox, so percentages may add up to
more than 100%.
> >
> >
> > Discount NOT Interested in
> >
> > Price Reduction
> > 3
> > 13%
> >
> > Furbished Apartment
> > 15
> > 63%
> >
> > Delayed Payment as per site progress
> > 4
> > 17%
> >
> > Increase features / quality
> > 10
> > 42%
> >
> > Other
> > 5
> > 21%
> > People may select more than one checkbox, so percentages may add up to
more than 100%.
> >
> >
> > Want to be part of group going to ETA
> >
> > http://chart.apis.google.com/chart?cht=p&chs=345x150&chco=000...
> >
> > YES
> > 31
> > 63%
> >
> > NO
> > 18
> > 37%
> > People may select more than one checkbox, so percentages may add up to
more than 100%.
> > Comments
> > Why dont you have Goldcrest Business Vistas in your list which was
launched at the same time as Goldcrest Dreams 3 but before Goldcrest Dreams
4. This is a huge officetower completly sold to investors like myself with a
high price per sqft starting at AED 510 per sqft. There are many investors
here. Please list this as one of the your developments. Thanks. SiparPlease
keep up the good work and let's put up a united front. Best regards, The
most serious problem here is our inability to realise revenue from our
investment. Any serious delay such as the one that has happened affects
the...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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== 2 of 6 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 8 2009 7:17 am
From: "lpscott"
Hi there, the problem with my e mail is sorted, would you
please resend the letter for me to sighn.
Thankyou Lynne Scott
== 3 of 6 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 8 2009 7:47 am
From: Sergio Michos
Hello,
Could you please send the letter to me? I have not received it.
Thanks
Sergio
--- On Tue, 9/8/09, lpscott <lps...@batelco.com.bh> wrote:
From: lpscott <lps...@batelco.com.bh>
Subject: please send me letter
To: gcdin...@googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, September 8, 2009, 3:17 PM
Hi there, the problem with my e mail is sorted, would you
please resend the letter for me to sighn.
Thankyou Lynne Scott
== 4 of 6 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 8 2009 7:36 pm
From: soundbubble
Hi Salim,
please fill-in your data here and you will be sent the letter. Approx
50 people have signed already.
http://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?formkey=dG5XdWpieGtDTXowT21DVWVUdTkt
SGc6MA..
Thank you.
JP
On Sep 8, 10:00 pm, Salim Chohan <dubai...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> can i have the copy of the letter being discussed..............please
> salim at .........dubai...@hotmail.com
>
>
>
>
>
> > Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 19:24:48 -0700
> > Subject: Re: Responses so far
> > From: viturin.doer...@gmail.com
> > To: gcdin...@googlegroups.com
>
> > Hello Robert AD,
>
> > We are going ahead with the letter as proposed and e-mailed to all of
> > us. Most have signed already by now. The more the merrier... :) Nobody
> > is obliged to join. Its a free world.
> > There is always a better solution to any and every current
> > situation... but its better to have a solution in hand, then no
> > solution and only discuss about a perfect solution that is in some
> > undefined distance... <grin>
>
> > I prefer to be part of this initiative and letter. Of course we all
> > strive to the perfect solution. But all to often, the 100% perfect
> > solution is almost impossible to be reached. Especially when taking a
> > group into account - in a democracy, there never is a 100% perfect
> > solution. 100% perfect solutions only exists in Kingdoms or
> > Dictatorships - and then of course - all depends on the point of
> > view . So we have to work for a 95% perfect solution (or whatever what
> > percentage - please do not start to comment on the value now
> > <smile>)... and move ahead. It then does not make sense to keep poking
> > into the 5% which are not perfect - and hence endangering the 95%
> > which would bring a substantial success.
>
> > Robert, it's all too easy to find flaws and mistakes. But its not so
> > easy to create better things, to improve. Its all too easy to destroy
> > something - much harder than building it up. It does not take a genius
> > to point out flaws and comment about mistakes. We all can do that. I
> > also could find issues in that letter, I could also find issues in a
> > letter written by you, or by anybody. Richelieu said to Luis XIV: Let
> > any noble man write one single sentence on a sheet of paper, and I
> > will be able to find a flaw in that one sentence to have him hanged...
> > (he said that its too easy to find mistakes... too easy)
> > It requires much more to improve the current situation, make things
> > better, actually produce things....
>
> > Of course, if there is a 97% or better solution available, then that
> > should be considered... but of course, only if the previous 95% are
> > not put at risk, and if the 97% really are better. But for that,
> > again, it requires the detailed better solution at hand, and then
> > again, every individual has the choice and option to decide. No need
> > to spread public opinion based on ones personal opinion.
>
> > In brief - yes, an individual letter for each project could be good -
> > maybe yes, maybe no. But the fact is that there is a letter to ETA
> > (for several projects) now which is being signed. And there is no
> > letter for each individual project. So lets not just talk negative but
> > put positive energy into the matter.
>
> > Greetings.
>
> > On Sep 7, 9:10 pm, "Robert A D " <a...@msn.com> wrote:
> > > Thanks Rauf for sharing the investor opinions.
> > > I find that there is a clash of interests between and as per
contractual agreements of each project. That is gcd, gcd2 etc etc.
> > > Further the delay in submitting, even the draft of the letter, defeats
the forum cause. Such letter should have been submitted to ETA, before ETA
got ARRA approval.
> > > I suggest that each project handle seperately.
>
> > > Comments welcome !
>
> > > Best is yet to come .......
>
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Rauf Abdur <ar...@qualcomm.com>
>
> > > Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 12:23:05
> > > To: <gcdin...@googlegroups.com>
> > > Subject: Responses so far
>
> > > 1. There are currently 52 responses in total currently
> > > 2. Almost Half of them have their contracts signed and the other half
has not signed their contracts
> > > 3. Most people do not have apartments with rental guarantee( lets
reduce this as a focus for the time being)
> > > 4. Goldcrest dreams and Gold Crest Dreams 3 are the major owners fo
the apartments
> > > 5. Majority of the owners own 1 bedroom apartments
> > > 6. An overwhelming majority WANT a price reduction and some want
delayed payments
> > > 7. 31 out of 52 people want to physically go to ETA with the letter
>
> > > This is a very good sign and now we need to review the draft before it
is finalised
>
> > > 52responses
> > > Summary
> > > Name
> > > Karena L. GomesMr Sipar AhmedKhaan AdeelDaniel ThomsonSyed Shahid
ImamDaniel ThomsonEugene de VilliersSyed Fattah JalilHaresh C Khatriamir
mbillyKarsan?????????lynne scottPrashant Kapoormunmun namat...
>
> > > Contract with ETA signed?
>
> > > http://chart.apis.google.com/chart?cht=p&chs=345x150&chco=000...
>
> > > YES
> > > 24
> > > 46%
>
> > > NO
> > > 28
> > > 54%
> > > People may select more than one checkbox, so percentages may add up to
more than 100%.
>
> > > Contract with Rental Guarantee?
>
> > > http://chart.apis.google.com/chart?cht=p&chs=345x150&chco=ff9...
>
> > > YES
> > > 8
> > > 15%
>
> > > NO
> > > 24
> > > 46%
>
> > > no Contract signed
> > > 20
> > > 38%
> > > People may select more than one checkbox, so percentages may add up to
more than 100%.
>
> > > Development
>
> > > Gold Crest Dreams 1
> > > 17
> > > 33%
>
> > > Gold Crest Dreams 2
> > > 10
> > > 19%
>
> > > Gold Crest Dreams 3
> > > 1
> > > 2%
>
> > > Gold Crest Dreams 4
> > > 20
> > > 38%
>
> > > Other
> > > 4
> > > 8%
> > > People may select more than one checkbox, so percentages may add up to
more than 100%.
>
> > > Type of Apartment
>
> > > http://chart.apis.google.com/chart?cht=p&chs=345x150&chco=dcc...
>
> > > Studio
> > > 2
> > > 4%
>
> > > 1 Bedroom
> > > 37
> > > 71%
>
> > > 2 Bedroom
> > > 11
> > > 21%
>
> > > 3 Bedroom
> > > 0
> > > 0%
>
> > > Other
> > > 2
> > > 4%
> > > People may select more than one checkbox, so percentages may add up to
more than 100%.
> > > Building-Unit
> > > T03-1104Goldcrest Business Vistas Office 1403C-04Type F Tower 6 Unit
-910A-1206Tower 6 Unit 910C-09_2415Tower B Unit 2012C-908c-309c240C-7, A1 &
A2A -02unit 1315 tower 6Tower 2 1910C-01-111C-01-111b...
> > > Location
> > > Emirates CityEmirates CityEmirates CityEmirates CityEmirates
CityEmirates Cityemirates cityEmirates CityEmirates Cityemirates
cityemirates cityEmirates City?????? ????emirates cityEmirates Cityemira...
> > > email
> > >
karena.go...@gmail.comsiparahmed@talktalk.netkhanad...@hotmail.comdrthomson8
0...@hotmail.comsyedshahidi...@gmail.comdrthomosn80@hotmail.comarchig...@hotmai
l.coms...@googlemail.comshjdxb2...@gmail.co...
> > > current residence
> > > Dubai, UAELondon, UKKuwaitUAEUAEDubai,UAEdubai, uaeWoking, United
KingdomUAEcanadaLondon???????bahrainLondon, UKU.A.EU.A.Edubai, uaeDubai,
UAEOmanDubai, UAEUnited KingdomLondon, UKBahrainManama, Bah...
> > > Cell phone
> > > 0044771744174400965-66506736+971507984953050
893204305079849530504660851+44792126327400971508641289999990097339120774004
4-7834350470050-3416617050-341661705065114590505586015+96899434426050 342
8523...
> > > Alternative contact
> > > NA06 7445783+441483824128613 736
80558888800973177507890044-2085778199040-3357457040-335745704312530004 344
5417please contact via email0097317600431+982188441999971 04 344
541797143374291gcdinvesto...
>
> > > Discount Interested in
>
> > > Price Reduction
> > > 33
> > > 73%
>
> > > Furbished Apartment
> > > 13
> > > 29%
>
> > > Delayed Payment as per site progress
> > > 29
> > > 64%
>
> > > Increase features / quality
> > > 10
> > > 22%
>
> > > Other
> > > 8
> > > 18%
> > > People may select more than one checkbox, so percentages may add up to
more than 100%.
>
> > > Discount NOT Interested in
>
> > > Price Reduction
> > > 3
> > > 13%
>
> > > Furbished Apartment
> > > 15
> > > 63%
>
> > > Delayed Payment as per site progress
> > > 4
> > > 17%
>
> > > Increase features / quality
> > > 10
> > > 42%
>
> > > Other
> > > 5
> > > 21%
> > > People may select more than one checkbox, so percentages may add up to
more than 100%.
>
> > > Want to be part of group going to ETA
>
> > > http://chart.apis.google.com/chart?cht=p&chs=345x150&chco=000...
>
> > > YES
> > > 31
> > > 63%
>
> > > NO
> > > 18
> > > 37%
> > > People may select more than one checkbox, so percentages may add up to
more than 100%.
> > > Comments
> > > Why dont you have Goldcrest Business Vistas in your list which was
launched at the same time as Goldcrest Dreams 3 but before Goldcrest Dreams
4. This is a huge officetower completly sold to investors like myself with a
high price per sqft starting at AED 510 per sqft. There are many investors
here. Please list this as one of the your developments. Thanks. SiparPlease
keep up the good work and let's put up a united front. Best regards, The
most serious problem here is our inability to realise revenue from our
investment. Any serious delay such as the one that has happened affects
the...
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== 5 of 6 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 8 2009 7:50 pm
From: soundbubble
Dear Lynne - the letter will be sent today or tomorrow - thanx for
informing us.
JP
On Sep 8, 10:17 pm, "lpscott" <lpsc...@batelco.com.bh> wrote:
> Hi there, the problem with my e mail is sorted, would you
> please resend the letter for me to sighn.
> Thankyou Lynne Scott
== 6 of 6 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 8 2009 7:51 pm
From: soundbubble
Dear Sergio,
please enter your appartment data, etc. here, and you will be sent the
letter.
http://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?formkey=dG5XdWpieGtDTXowT21DVWVUdTkt
SGc6MA..
Approx 50+ people have signed already.
Regards,
--JP
On Sep 8, 10:47 pm, Sergio Michos <sergio_in...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Could you please send the letter to me? I have not received it.
>
> Thanks
>
> Sergio
>
> --- On Tue, 9/8/09, lpscott <lpsc...@batelco.com.bh> wrote:
>
> From: lpscott <lpsc...@batelco.com.bh>
> Subject: please send me letter
> To: gcdin...@googlegroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, September 8, 2009, 3:17 PM
>
> Hi there, the problem with my e mail is sorted, would you
> please resend the letter for me to sighn.
> Thankyou Lynne Scott
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