They don’t do anything.
It is o.k when they return paid amounts.
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I
went to Star giga office last week.
i have two units and they allowed me to consolidate to one unit.
However they are a bunch of liars as they told me that work was on going at the
site, but when i visited it the day after, the whole site was closed.
They still say it will be finished by 2012 but i think 2013/2014
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They don’t do anything.
It is o.k when they return paid amounts.
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I went to Star giga office last week.
i have two units and they allowed me to consolidate to one unit.
However they are a bunch of liars as they told me that work was on going at the site, but when i visited it the day after, the whole site was closed.
They still say it will be finished by 2012 but i think 2013/2014
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as far i understand, they will not make any refunds.
they keep saying that the project is going ahead. infact they want more money from us to re-start the project.
Best Regards
Hickesh Parmar
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If we give up then these people have won! That's what they want. Let's keep the pressure on them.
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Dear all,
By what I have heard, no money will be refunded and this decision is backed up by Ajman Govt / ARAA (So I have heard). I have a double bed with Car Park in GCD-1 and have paid 160 K so far. I am willing to part for 80K if I can get a offer from someone.
Why should we pay??? here is simple maths:
My Apt was worth Dh. 465K with an outlook to be Dh. 650K by the completion date in 2009. Now its outlook is around Dh. 250K MAX. So I can either pay another 205K and hope someone will buy it for 250K or walk away with the 160K LOSS.
The only we hope we have is legal system. Mr. Shahid and I were trying to do this, but due to business reasons I have relocated to Central Africa and Mr. Shahid to India. So we will not be in Dubai anymore.
If any one of you from Dubai / UAE is willing to take the initiative to engage a legal firm, I will support remotely with all documentation preparation and discussions. I am willing to part 25% to 40% of the apartment value to the legal firm - IF THEY WIN THE CASE FOR US.
I am not trying to sound rude. But we only have 2 choices 1) Let us stop whining and get something going, else 2) let us kiss our money goodbye and discontinue this Group. No other way out of this mess for us.
Regards,
Sam
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Guys,
Meant to say 25% to 40% of recovery value - Not apartment value. Sorry about typo.
Sam
Gcd2 I believe is cancelled and eta star are trying to shift investors to gcd 1.
Don't let these people take your money, we need to keep fighting!
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GUYS:
One key question.
I all the communications from STAR, did any of you get a letter or email with the words "FORCE MAJEURE" in it. My Lawyer was here and whaat he tells me is if they did not refer the contract and the event of Force Majeure, it is NOT Force Majeure. So as per Contract, all users of GCD-1 are entitled to full refund + 3% interest as of May 2010. I hope this excites a few of you at-least.
Guys, help me with the Legal in UAE and I will help you with whatever I can from this part of the world. If needed, I can even fly for a few days into Dubai - That is if things get going.
Regards,
Sam
JCP,
You are very right. Not to mention the lost interest on our initial investment!
Unless anyone else has a brainstrom, I will stop with this email and get on with life as well.
One lesson I have learned from all this. NEVER invest in a non-democratic country - EVER.
Thanks for your time and good luck.
Sam
JCP et all:
I have lost Dh. 160K. I have 0% hope of any recovery. What I intend to do now is have fun with these bastards. I am no longer in Dubai so they cannot harm me in anyway.
I am going home for a month break in 3 days. I am then going to send them a email with 3 days notice to pay me else warning ethical media action. I know for sure they will do fuck-all. Then I plan to blog. facebook. twitt. write to papers and online about their atrocities in Ajman and how they have cheated us out of our money. I may not get my money back - but their reputation is going down big way. Gulf News wrote a 3 page article in 2006 about the greatness of GCD. Now I will ask them to write about the truth. I personally know the Asst. Editor in National Newspaper (GN's competitor). I am sure National will have a field day writing about how stupid GN is if GN fail to write the truth. I am going to have fun. Anyone wanting to join me in this fun drive is welcome. One outcome is ETA may step up as they are now big in India and if word gets out it may harm their overall stock price.
Cheers,
All:
This is all good news and I am glad for the support emails I have got so far.
Here is my plan. I am travelling until 10th, so nothing much can be done until I have the contract files in my hand so I can refer to correct Article numbers.
13 Feb, I will send you the draft letter I intend to send to GIGA. Feedback and comments welcome.
15 Feb, I send my letter to GIGA AND TO ETA. I urge you all to do the same. This will show that we are out as a group.
18 Feb, I start going global if no decent response from GIGA.
Thanks,
Sam
How honest workers get Squeezed to bankruptcy in the UAE Crisis
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i used to be a newspaper sub-editor, please use the following headlines:
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Ajman builder: "Pay more or lose everything!"Injustice in Ajman: Builder dishonors promise, demands money.Ajman buiders - a sham and a shame!
�
On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 5:06 AM, adeel khan <khanad...@gmail.com> wrote:
This looks more article then news it might not get attention from journalist . Try to dramatise situation and put your news more attractive for journalist
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Ajman builder's began threatening "Pay more else forget your existing investment"
70 Investors Group seeking for justice in Ajman.
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Ajman builder : "Fight for your money"
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On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 5:11 PM, Doering Viturin <viturin...@alum.bu.edu> wrote:
I prepare to write a story like this:
How honest workers get Squeezed to bankruptcy in the UAE Crisis
�
As many other young people, K. arrived from India in search of a �better life�. In many cases, attracted by advertisements and head-hunter�s offers, which were not only very tempting, but in fact substantially interesting. It was in 2006 that K. too up her position with an international, respected company of Dubai.
etc. etc. etc.
I am at the beginning of this article. I shall write it in 2 languages - English and German - and provide it to respective newspapers.
Any input and continuation of this story is welcome with all the details.
Lets make as much wind as we can.
-JPC
On Feb 6, 2011, at 9:45 PM, Prashant Kapoor wrote:
Hi Sam,Please let me the format of the letter that you will send to ETA & GIGA and if possible send me the attachment as well.I will then reformat the letter keeping the contents similar and send it over to them.We should ALL send them the letter so they know it's not just one or few investors taking action against them.I think it's time we stop thinking about getting our money back but it's definitely not too late to teach them a lesson.I have already emailed ITV to cover our stories at Emirates City on their TV program "Homes from Hell "but they haven't bothered to respond back to me since the last 4 months now.
Regards,Prashant Kapoor
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i am in canada now...saravanan's plan is impeccable! love it! we should hump these bastards and ruin their rep in india and wherever...they should not be allowed to do to som eone else what they have done tyo us...i may lose my 110, 000 dirhams but fuck that! i will do whatever it takes to watch them burn. they have lied and fooled us too long...its time they got pay back!whatever i can do from my side, i will...just let me know.
On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 12:14 AM, V. (Sam) Saravanan <Venkatarama...@me.weatherford.com> wrote:
All:
�
This is all good news and I am glad for the support emails I have got so far.
�
Here is my plan. I am travelling until 10th, so nothing much can be done until I have the contract files in my hand so I can refer to correct Article numbers.
�
13 Feb, I will send you the draft letter I intend to send to GIGA. Feedback and comments welcome.
�
15 Feb, I send my letter to GIGA AND TO ETA. I urge you all to do the same. This will show that we are out as a group.
�
18 Feb, I start going global if no decent response from GIGA.
�
Thanks,
Sam
�
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Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2011 2:24 PM
�
Dear Sam�
I live in U K and I am with you in this plan I will use my resources to get BBC on it or dispatches
Dr Nousherwan Soomro�
On 6 Feb 2011, at 07:26, "V. (Sam) Saravanan" <Venkatarama...@me.weatherford.com> wrote:
JCP et all:
�
I have lost Dh. 160K. I have 0% hope of any recovery.� What I intend to do now is have fun with these bastards.� I am no longer in Dubai so they cannot harm me in anyway.
�
I am going home for a month break in 3 days.� I am then going to send them a email with 3 days notice to pay me else warning ethical media action.� I know for sure they will do fuck-all.� Then I plan to blog. facebook. twitt. write to papers and online about their atrocities in Ajman and how they have cheated us out of our money.� I may not get my money back - but their reputation is going down big way.� Gulf News wrote a 3 page article in 2006 about the greatness of GCD.� Now I will ask them to write about the truth.� I personally know the Asst. Editor in National Newspaper (GN's competitor).� I am sure National will have a field day writing about how stupid GN is if GN fail to write the truth.� I am going to have fun. Anyone wanting to join me in this fun drive is welcome.� One outcome is ETA may step up as they are now big in India and if word gets out it may harm their overall stock price.
�
�
Cheers,
Sam
�
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Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2011 8:17 AM
To: gcdin...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Any news?
�
If anyone has access to newspapers, or other sites, it might be of interest to have it published in a newspaper... Even writing a letter to the Sheikh might be a nice idea (Sheikh of DUbai and Sheikh of Ajman, ...)... nobody of their height wants anything to be blamed on them. The outcome of these is not sure, but could be of help. That is the only think I could think of.
�
JCP
�
�
On Feb 5, 2011, at 10:21 PM, V. (Sam) Saravanan wrote:
JCP,
�
You are very right.� Not to mention the lost interest on our initial investment!
�
Unless anyone else has a brainstrom, I will stop with this email and get on with life as well.�
�
One lesson I have learned from all this. NEVER invest in a non-democratic country - EVER.
�
Thanks for your time and good luck.
�
�
Sam
�
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Sent:�Saturday, February 05, 2011 6:14 PM
To:�gcdin...@googlegroups.com
Subject:�Re: Any news?�
Sam,
�
in the last e-mails, they did not use FORCE MAJEURE any more - you are right, it is not FORCE MAJEURE. The problems are:
�
1) The Ajman government supports them and no refund will be paid
2) The legal system in Ajman is even worse than in DUBAI
3) your calculation is 100% correct - and that is what I also calculates (but forgot to mention here). The value of the appartments (if ever finished) will drop even more within the next 5 years since the over-supply of apartments in the UAE is enormous and take at least 4 to 5 years to restaibilize - at the cost of dramatic Real Estate price drop...
�
so your calculation is 100% correct. Accept a loss of 100+ k what is paid now, or pay more and lose even more due to
�
a) real estate price drop
b) in worst case the apartment never being delivered
c) not being able to find a purchaser of the apartment IN AJMAN!!!
�
So the wisest is take the option where the loss is smaller and stop whining here.. AGREE with you SAM.
�
Legal option is not an alternative since I heard from many cases in the UAE where the legal path was chosen. The legal path takes at least 3 years (if not more) and will cost a lot of money. And in addition, the outcome is very uncertain. And most likely the outcome will be in favor of the Investor, and in this case, the bigger investor wins... This is ETA, STAR GIGA - not us. I had discussed the legal path with lawyers and with people in the real estate system. They said - even you use a lawyer, you will never win against the government - unless you have political background or support. So we can forget that. And lets give the best case we win - what do we want to win? To get the 100+ k AED back? The legal fee will for sure not be free of charge. How long will a professional and good lawyer fight? No lawyer I know of is willing to work without CASH only on the basis of a profit sharing provision...
�
I am out of this group and go on with my life after the financial crash.
�
Good luck to all of you!
--JCP
�
�
�
On Feb 5, 2011, at 9:14 PM, V. (Sam) Saravanan wrote:
GUYS:
�
One key question.
�
I all the communications from STAR, did any of you get a letter or email with the words "FORCE MAJEURE" in it.� My Lawyer was here and whaat he tells me is if they did not refer the contract and the event of Force Majeure, it is NOT Force Majeure.� So as per Contract, all users of GCD-1 are entitled to full refund + 3% interest as of May 2010.� I hope this excites a few of you at-least.
�
Guys, help me with the Legal in UAE and I will help you with whatever I can from this part of the world.� If needed, I can even fly for a few days into Dubai - That is if things get going.
�
Regards,
Sam
�
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Sent:�Saturday, February 05, 2011 5:07 PM
To:�gcdin...@googlegroups.com
Subject:�RE: Any news?�
Dear all,
�
By what I have heard, no money will be refunded and this decision is backed up by Ajman Govt / ARAA (So I have heard).� I have a double bed with Car Park in GCD-1 and have paid 160 K so far. I am willing to part for 80K if I can get a offer from someone.
�
Why should we pay??? here is simple maths:
�
My Apt was worth Dh. 465K with an outlook to be Dh. 650K by the completion date in 2009.� Now its outlook is around Dh. 250K MAX.� So I can either pay another 205K and hope someone will buy it for 250K or walk away with the 160K LOSS.�
�
The only we hope we have is legal system. Mr. Shahid and I were trying to do this, but due to business reasons I have relocated to Central Africa and Mr. Shahid to India. So we will not be in Dubai anymore.�
�
If any one of you from Dubai / UAE is willing to take the initiative to engage a legal firm, I will support remotely with all documentation preparation and discussions. I am willing to part 25% to 40% of the apartment value to the legal firm - IF THEY WIN THE CASE FOR US.
�
I am not trying to sound rude. But we only have 2 choices 1) Let us stop whining and get something going, else 2) let us kiss our money goodbye and discontinue this Group. No other way out of this mess for us.
�
�
Regards,
Sam
�
�
�
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Sent:�Saturday, February 05, 2011 4:49 PM
To:�gcdin...@googlegroups.com
Subject:�Re: Any news?�
ur in the middle -east guys...no human rights, no nothing...uncivilized, barbaric system out there...been in canada a month now and in comparison, the middle-east is like the dark ages...good luck on your efforts...in canada, you could sue and get justice...out there, forget about it!
On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 12:41 AM, Doering Viturin <viturin...@alum.bu.edu> wrote:
Here, it's not the question who has won or who has lost.�
�
A fact is that we have lost money. And we have to learn from our past mistakes in order not to lose more money. There is no way we can build up pressure against governments, etc.
�
�
On Feb 5, 2011, at 8:39 PM,�blackwoo...@hotmail.co.uk�wrote:
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If we give up then these people have won! That's what they want. Let's keep the pressure on them.
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always pay for a project that is completed.
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I second that..I have given up hopes as well..there is only one positive from the investment..dont trust anyone�
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On 5 Feb 2011, at 11:35 AM, "Dr. Gopi Bezzala" <bez...@gmail.com> wrote:
this project is hopeless...they are a bunch of liars and frauds. i have moved to canada permanently and am thinking of foregoing the 150,000 dirhams i have invested in gdc2...they wont ever refund me my money nor complete the project on time.
God will burn them, their children and their families in hell for cheating hard-working people out of their money. enough said.
On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 9:07 PM, hickesh parmar <blackwoo...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
as far i understand, they�will not make any refunds.
�
they keep saying that the project is going ahead. infact they want more money from us to re-start the project.
�
Best Regards
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Have they already agreed to return the paid amounts?
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They don�t do anything.
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I went to Star giga office last week.
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i have two units and they allowed me to consolidate to one unit.
�
However they are a bunch of liars as they told me that work was on going at the site, but when i visited it the day after, the whole site was closed.
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They still say it will be finished by 2012 but i think 2013/2014
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Any news from the GCD guys?
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Friends,
Sorry that I was unable to comply with my own schedule due to personal reasons. Anyway, here is the draft of the letter I intend to sen to Star Giga, I have attached it in Word format, hence please provide your comments. I have also attached my previous letter which refers to the contract Articles.
I will send my letter to Star Giga (with your collective input) on 23rd Feb and will also copy ETA Star.
I will also send you all a copy of the final draft so you can modify it to suit your position. I urge you all to spend a few minutes sending this email so we can show our strength to these assholes and can commence to (hopefully) destroy their reputation.
Regards,
Sam
From: V. (Sam) Saravanan
Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2011 4:14 PM
To: gcdin...@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Any news?
All:
This is all good news and I am glad for the support emails I have got so far.
Here is my plan. I am travelling until 10th, so nothing much can be done until I have the contract files in my hand so I can refer to correct Article numbers.
13 Feb, I will send you the draft letter I intend to send to GIGA. Feedback and comments welcome.
15 Feb, I send my letter to GIGA AND TO ETA. I urge you all to do the same. This will show that we are out as a group.
18 Feb, I start going global if no decent response from GIGA.
Thanks,
Sam
<star giga 21 feb.doc>
<star giga; GCD1, 401C.pdf>
Thank you for your suggestions, you are absolutely correct, I will amend it in the final draft.
I think I got a bit emotional; but you should have read my first draft - boy you would have enjoyed it.
Regards,
Sam
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Sent: Tue 2/22/2011 11:53 AM
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Subject: Re: Letter to Star Giga
Hi Sam,
It looks fine to me apart from certain words like "Jack-ass" and "Selfish Organisation".
Let's not forget we are threatening them to go the legal way and I think using such words when sending them a legal letter shouldn't be abusive and also it looks unprofessional especially when it's addressed to the CEO.
Although I will prefer to use more abusive slangs if I meet them in person or emailing to the customer service.
Once again it's just a suggestion and according to me the rest of the draft looks good.
Well done and let's get the ball rolling.
Regards,
Prashant Kapoor
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On 22 Feb 2011, at 02:13 AM, "V. (Sam) Saravanan" <Venkatarama...@me.weatherford.com<mailto:Venkatarama...@me.weatherford.com>> wrote:
Friends,
Sorry that I was unable to comply with my own schedule due to personal reasons. Anyway, here is the draft of the letter I intend to sen to Star Giga, I have attached it in Word format, hence please provide your comments. I have also attached my previous letter which refers to the contract Articles.
I will send my letter to Star Giga (with your collective input) on 23rd Feb and will also copy ETA Star.
I will also send you all a copy of the final draft so you can modify it to suit your position. I urge you all to spend a few minutes sending this email so we can show our strength to these assholes and can commence to (hopefully) destroy their reputation.
Regards,
Sam
From: V. (Sam) Saravanan
Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2011 4:14 PM
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Subject: RE: Any news?
All:
This is all good news and I am glad for the support emails I have got so far.
Here is my plan. I am travelling until 10th, so nothing much can be done until I have the contract files in my hand so I can refer to correct Article numbers.
13 Feb, I will send you the draft letter I intend to send to GIGA. Feedback and comments welcome.
15 Feb, I send my letter to GIGA AND TO ETA. I urge you all to do the same. This will show that we are out as a group.
18 Feb, I start going global if no decent response from GIGA.
Thanks,
Sam
From: gcdin...@googlegroups.com<mailto:gcdin...@googlegroups.com> [mailto:gcdin...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Nousherwan Soomro
Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2011 2:24 PM
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Subject: Re: Any news?
Dear Sam
I live in U K and I am with you in this plan I will use my resources to get BBC on it or dispatches
Dr Nousherwan Soomro
On 6 Feb 2011, at 07:26, "V. (Sam) Saravanan" <<mailto:Venkatarama...@me.weatherford.com>Venkatarama...@me.weatherford.com<mailto:Venkatarama...@me.weatherford.com>> wrote:
JCP et all:
I have lost Dh. 160K. I have 0% hope of any recovery. What I intend to do now is have fun with these bastards. I am no longer in Dubai so they cannot harm me in anyway.
I am going home for a month break in 3 days. I am then going to send them a email with 3 days notice to pay me else warning ethical media action. I know for sure they will do fuck-all. Then I plan to blog. facebook. twitt. write to papers and online about their atrocities in Ajman and how they have cheated us out of our money. I may not get my money back - but their reputation is going down big way. Gulf News wrote a 3 page article in 2006 about the greatness of GCD. Now I will ask them to write about the truth. I personally know the Asst. Editor in National Newspaper (GN's competitor). I am sure National will have a field day writing about how stupid GN is if GN fail to write the truth. I am going to have fun. Anyone wanting to join me in this fun drive is welcome. One outcome is ETA may step up as they are now big in India and if word gets out it may harm their overall stock price.
Cheers,
Sam
From: <mailto:gcdin...@googlegroups.com> gcdin...@googlegroups.com<mailto:gcdin...@googlegroups.com> [mailto:gcdin...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Doering Viturin
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Subject: Re: Any news?
If anyone has access to newspapers, or other sites, it might be of interest to have it published in a newspaper... Even writing a letter to the Sheikh might be a nice idea (Sheikh of DUbai and Sheikh of Ajman, ...)... nobody of their height wants anything to be blamed on them. The outcome of these is not sure, but could be of help. That is the only think I could think of.
JCP
On Feb 5, 2011, at 10:21 PM, V. (Sam) Saravanan wrote:
JCP,
You are very right. Not to mention the lost interest on our initial investment!
Unless anyone else has a brainstrom, I will stop with this email and get on with life as well.
One lesson I have learned from all this. NEVER invest in a non-democratic country - EVER.
Thanks for your time and good luck.
Sam
Sam,
GUYS:
One key question.
Regards,
Sam
From: <mailto:gcdin...@googlegroups.com> gcdin...@googlegroups.com<mailto:gcdin...@googlegroups.com> [<mailto:gcdin...@googlegroups.com>mailto:gcdin...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of V. (Sam) Saravanan
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Dear all,
By what I have heard, no money will be refunded and this decision is backed up by Ajman Govt / ARAA (So I have heard). I have a double bed with Car Park in GCD-1 and have paid 160 K so far. I am willing to part for 80K if I can get a offer from someone.
Why should we pay??? here is simple maths:
My Apt was worth Dh. 465K with an outlook to be Dh. 650K by the completion date in 2009. Now its outlook is around Dh. 250K MAX. So I can either pay another 205K and hope someone will buy it for 250K or walk away with the 160K LOSS.
The only we hope we have is legal system. Mr. Shahid and I were trying to do this, but due to business reasons I have relocated to Central Africa and Mr. Shahid to India. So we will not be in Dubai anymore.
If any one of you from Dubai / UAE is willing to take the initiative to engage a legal firm, I will support remotely with all documentation preparation and discussions. I am willing to part 25% to 40% of the apartment value to the legal firm - IF THEY WIN THE CASE FOR US.
I am not trying to sound rude. But we only have 2 choices 1) Let us stop whining and get something going, else 2) let us kiss our money goodbye and discontinue this Group. No other way out of this mess for us.
Regards,
Sam
From: <mailto:gcdin...@googlegroups.com> gcdin...@googlegroups.com<mailto:gcdin...@googlegroups.com> [<mailto:gcdin...@googlegroups.com>mailto:gcdin...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dr. Gopi Bezzala
Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2011 4:49 PM
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ur in the middle -east guys...no human rights, no nothing...uncivilized, barbaric system out there...been in canada a month now and in comparison, the middle-east is like the dark ages...good luck on your efforts...in canada, you could sue and get justice...out there, forget about it!
On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 12:41 AM, Doering Viturin <<mailto:viturin...@alum.bu.edu>viturin...@alum.bu.edu<mailto:viturin...@alum.bu.edu>> wrote:
Here, it's not the question who has won or who has lost.
A fact is that we have lost money. And we have to learn from our past mistakes in order not to lose more money. There is no way we can build up pressure against governments, etc.
On Feb 5, 2011, at 8:39 PM, <mailto:blackwoo...@hotmail.co.uk> blackwoo...@hotmail.co.uk<mailto:blackwoo...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
If we give up then these people have won! That's what they want. Let's keep the pressure on them.
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From: "Dr. Gopi Bezzala" <<mailto:bez...@gmail.com>bez...@gmail.com<mailto:bez...@gmail.com>>
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Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 00:11:59 -1200
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Subject: Re: Any news?
always pay for a project that is completed.
On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 12:07 AM, Prashant Kapoor <<mailto:prash...@yahoo.com>prash...@yahoo.com<mailto:prash...@yahoo.com>> wrote:
I second that..I have given up hopes as well..there is only one positive from the investment..dont trust anyone
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On 5 Feb 2011, at 11:35 AM, "Dr. Gopi Bezzala" <<mailto:bez...@gmail.com>bez...@gmail.com<mailto:bez...@gmail.com>> wrote:
this project is hopeless...they are a bunch of liars and frauds. i have moved to canada permanently and am thinking of foregoing the 150,000 dirhams i have invested in gdc2...they wont ever refund me my money nor complete the project on time.
God will burn them, their children and their families in hell for cheating hard-working people out of their money. enough said.
On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 9:07 PM, hickesh parmar <<mailto:blackwoo...@hotmail.co.uk>blackwoo...@hotmail.co.uk<mailto:blackwoo...@hotmail.co.uk>> wrote:
as far i understand, they will not make any refunds.
they keep saying that the project is going ahead. infact they want more money from us to re-start the project.
Best Regards
Hickesh Parmar
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From: <mailto:omer....@gmail.com> omer....@gmail.com<mailto:omer....@gmail.com>
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Have they already agreed to return the paid amounts?
On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 11:37 AM, Asabakhsh.Hashem <<mailto:Asabakhs...@pidec.com>Asabakhs...@pidec.com<mailto:Asabakhs...@pidec.com>> wrote:
They don't do anything.
It is o.k when they return paid amounts.
From: <mailto:gcdin...@googlegroups.com> gcdin...@googlegroups.com<mailto:gcdin...@googlegroups.com> [mailto:<mailto:gcdin...@googlegroups.com>gcdin...@googlegroups.com<mailto:gcdin...@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf Of hickesh parmar
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I went to Star giga office last week.
i have two units and they allowed me to consolidate to one unit.
However they are a bunch of liars as they told me that work was on going at the site, but when i visited it the day after, the whole site was closed.
They still say it will be finished by 2012 but i think 2013/2014
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Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 13:07:59 +0530
Subject: Any news?
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Hi,
Any news from the GCD guys?
Best regards,
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<star giga 21 feb.doc>
<star giga; GCD1, 401C.pdf>
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Subject: Re: Letter to Star Giga
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 15:24:50 +0800
<20110223 star giga 21 feb revision JPC.doc>



