GCD 2: ACTION PLAN
Viturin Doering
- DELIVERY DATE: FEBRUARY 28th, 2010
- LONGSTOP DATE: AUGUST 31st, 2010
- ULTIMATE LONGSTOP: November 30th, 2010
--Please fill up your details in the below format for those of you who want to go the legal way.
I will keep track of all emails and 31st Jan will be the cut-off date.
1) Venkataraman Saravanan; GCD-1, Tower C, Unit 401 (Cell: 050 558 6015)
If you are not comfy putting your cell on public, please PM me on venkatarama...@me.weatherford.com
In the mean-time, I will follow-up on
1) formally communicating with Star Giga on my intentions to withdraw my funds + interest in April 2010 to see what they respond; this will help us build our legal case; I will cite all their unprofessionalism and lack of response, and sick excuses ( such as they have not updated my email after I asked them to do it on at-least 4 written occasions and now say that they have been sending updates to my old email address – a bunch of liars) in my letter.
2) Working with other members of this team to identify suitable legal firms.
Regards,
Sam
From: gcdin...@googlegroups.com [mailto:gcdin...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of hickesh parmar
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 5:18 PM
To: gcdin...@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Responses so far
i would like to get a lawer and get my money back.
count me in.
Subject: RE: Responses so far
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 17:14:38 +0400
From: Venkatarama...@me.weatherford.com
To: gcdin...@googlegroups.comGuys,
JP has hit the nail spot on (once again). Thank you JP.
Who all want to hire a lawyer and get their money back, email me confirming this (appreciate your confirmation before end of this month); we can then evaluate the total number of participant and then approach a good (but expensive) lawyer on the basis of volume discounts. I will also ask my Company to see if they can recommend any good local law firm.
Best regards,
Sam
From: gcdin...@googlegroups.com [mailto:gcdin...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Viturin Doering
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 5:03 PM
To: gcdin...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Responses so far
Hi all,
I fully agree with Sam. There is no use to try to contact ETA again, to visit them, etc. and to receive more empty and Bull-Shit (i.e. Force Majeure) replies!!!
Yes, we have to take a good lawyer. And me too, I agree to give some to the lawyer. The point with volume business is correct. He has the same amount of work since its the same case, but more volume.
Since I am not in Dubai and don't have any business trip planned to there, I can't make it, but I support you in whatever way you might need my help. I only know one law firm in Dubai (a foreign one, not cheap, but very professional), but I cannot say how good they are in regards to the Ajman issues. They would employ a local lawyer for these issues I guess, and I guess they have their ways to follow up... their contact is:DLA Piper Middle East LLP
PO Box
Level 6, Building 6
Emaar Square
Downtown Burj Dubai
PO Box 121662 Dubai
United Arab Emirates
+971 4 438 6100
www.dlapiper.com
I know one of the partners there and could pass the contact to Sam or directly contact him on our behalf. But maybe its better we also evaluate other contacts and see which one is better.
Regards,
--Jean-Philippe Charpentier (JPC)
On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 8:47 PM, V. (Sam) Saravanan <Venkatarama...@me.weatherford.com> wrote:
Sorry, but I clicked send accidentally.
Continued………….
Recommendation is to hire a good lawyer in Ajman (and promise him a share of the recovery) and take this legally to see if we can get our money + the interest in contract (3%) back in April 2010. Understand that each of us need to take it individually; but if we can go together to a lawyer, he will see the benefit of the volume business. I am willing to part with 25% of the paid funds if I can get the refund – I can put the money to better usage.
From: V. (Sam) Saravanan
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 4:46 PM
To: 'gcdin...@googlegroups.com'
Subject: RE: Responses so far
Meeting face to face will be great but all of us are busy so we may not have time to travel and meet (some of you may be out of Dubai).
Alternative suggestion would be group up in Yahoo or MSN messenger and chat for solutions.
My gut feel is that Star Giga will refuse to meet or we will just meet with some low level asshole who is paid to lie.
From: gcdin...@googlegroups.com [mailto:gcdin...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of hickesh parmar
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 4:43 PM
To: gcdin...@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Responses so far
I agree with Sam.
also it would be good if some of us could meet up in Dubai in maybe a month from now and visit star giga to get some answers.
Subject: RE: Responses so far
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 16:40:43 +0400
From: Venkatarama...@me.weatherford.com
To: gcdin...@googlegroups.comGents:
Those of you who have
1) some legal experience
2) aware of Ajman property laws
3) aware of Ajman civil laws
PLEASE OWN UP AND HELP US ALL TO HELP EACH OTHER.
I am willing to help with contract interpretation; but my knowledge of Ajman law is nil.
April 2010 is very close; so if we miss this opportunity to withdraw our money; we are screwed.
Thanks,
Sam
From: gcdin...@googlegroups.com [mailto:gcdin...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Hashim Hussain
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 4:38 PM
To: GCD Group
Subject: Re: Responses so far
Hey Guys,
The last I read on an email was that Gold Crest project was handed over to another developer.
They were getting in touch with all the investors and asking if they(investors) are still interested in the project finishing.
That this new developer had already opened an escrow account.
For all I know, this could all be a hoax.
My bberry crashed so I don't have that email anymore.
Not sure if anyone else received similar email and saved it.
Does this mean all our hard earned money that we have paid so far is all gone?
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From: Adeel Khan <khan...@hotmail.com>
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 12:29:34 +0000
Subject: RE: Responses so far
I have trust on GCD but its seem they are losing it now
I am from Kuwait too . Please be in touch all Kuwait members my numb is 6-6506736
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 15:21:19 +0300
Subject: Re: Responses so far
From: bez...@gmail.com
To: gcdin...@googlegroups.comim from kuwait and am visiting dubai feb 4th. i have a gdcrest dreams property ...can anyone be kind enuff to meet with me and tell me what the hell is going on???
On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 3:19 PM, Adeel Khan <khan...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Even I have tried but no response any one from Dubai here ?
From: mkhaz...@hotmail.com
To: gcdin...@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Responses so farDate: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 12:14:23 +0000
Has anyone been to their new office in Sheikh Zayed Road?
Perhaps it is worth going there personally and seeing if anyone will see you with regards to the latest project updates?
As for selling it - I dont think anyone will buy, Dubai is struggling with built property let alone off plan units in Ajman, nobody will want them.
RegardsMEHDI MATTHEW KHAZENI-RAD
BAHRAIN: ATKINS. MANAMA. BAHRAIN PO.BOX 5668. MOBILE + 973 36300518
ENGLAND: THE OLD COACH HOUSE. 20D CRAG BANK RD. CRAG BANK. CARNFORTH. LANCASHIRE. LA5 9EH. ENGLAND
Subject: RE: Responses so far
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 16:11:58 +0400
From: Venkatarama...@me.weatherford.com
To: gcdin...@googlegroups.comHickesh,
I have tried calling as well; no one seems to picking up.
Friends,
Has anyone else gotten hold of Star-Giga lately on the GCD-1 project.
April is very close and per the contract they have to refund our money + interest if they do not hand over the property. Properties in Dubai are protected by RERA, what is available under Ajman law. I personally would like to get rid of my property even if I have to sell it for a loss.
Thanks,
Sam
From: gcdin...@googlegroups.com [mailto:gcdin...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of hickesh parmar
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 4:03 PM
To: gcdin...@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Responses so far
does anybody know what is happening with goldcrest dreams 1.
I cannot get hold of anyone at eta to give me a progress update?
Regards
Mr Hickesh
From: duba...@hotmail.com
To: gcdin...@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Responses so far
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 14:00:46 +0000
can i have the copy of the letter being discussed..............please
salim at .........duba...@hotmail.com
> Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 19:24:48 -0700
> Subject: Re: Responses so far
> From: viturin...@gmail.com
> To: gcdin...@googlegroups.com
>
>
> Hello Robert AD,
>
> We are going ahead with the letter as proposed and e-mailed to all of
> us. Most have signed already by now. The more the merrier... :) Nobody
> is obliged to join. Its a free world.
> There is always a better solution to any and every current
> situation... but its better to have a solution in hand, then no
> solution and only discuss about a perfect solution that is in some
> undefined distance... <grin>
>
> I prefer to be part of this initiative and letter. Of course we all
> strive to the perfect solution. But all to often, the 100% perfect
> solution is almost impossible to be reached. Especially when taking a
> group into account - in a democracy, there never is a 100% perfect
> solution. 100% perfect solutions only exists in Kingdoms or
> Dictatorships - and then of course - all depends on the point of
> view . So we have to work for a 95% perfect solution (or whatever what
> percentage - please do not start to comment on the value now
> <smile>)... and move ahead. It then does not make sense to keep poking
> into the 5% which are not perfect - and hence endangering the 95%
> which would bring a substantial success.
>
> Robert, it's all too easy to find flaws and mistakes. But its not so
> easy to create better things, to improve. Its all too easy to destroy
> something - much harder than building it up. It does not take a genius
> to point out flaws and comment about mistakes. We all can do that. I
> also could find issues in that letter, I could also find issues in a
> letter written by you, or by anybody. Richelieu said to Luis XIV: Let
> any noble man write one single sentence on a sheet of paper, and I
> will be able to find a flaw in that one sentence to have him hanged...
> (he said that its too easy to find mistakes... too easy)
> It requires much more to improve the current situation, make things
> better, actually produce things....
>
> Of course, if there is a 97% or better solution available, then that
> should be considered... but of course, only if the previous 95% are
> not put at risk, and if the 97% really are better. But for that,
> again, it requires the detailed better solution at hand, and then
> again, every individual has the choice and option to decide. No need
> to spread public opinion based on ones personal opinion.
>
> In brief - yes, an individual letter for each project could be good -
> maybe yes, maybe no. But the fact is that there is a letter to ETA
> (for several projects) now which is being signed. And there is no
> letter for each individual project. So lets not just talk negative but
> put positive energy into the matter.
>
> Greetings.
>
>
>
> On Sep 7, 9:10 pm, "Robert A D " <a...@msn.com> wrote:
> > Thanks Rauf for sharing the investor opinions.
> > I find that there is a clash of interests between and as per contractual agreements of each project. That is gcd, gcd2 etc etc.
> > Further the delay in submitting, even the draft of the letter, defeats the forum cause. Such letter should have been submitted to ETA, before ETA got ARRA approval.
> > I suggest that each project handle seperately.
> >
> > Comments welcome !
> >
> > Best is yet to come .......
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rauf Abdur <ar...@qualcomm.com>
> >
> > Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 12:23:05
> > To: <gcdin...@googlegroups.com>
> > Subject: Responses so far
> >
> > 1. There are currently 52 responses in total currently
> > 2. Almost Half of them have their contracts signed and the other half has not signed their contracts
> > 3. Most people do not have apartments with rental guarantee( lets reduce this as a focus for the time being)
> > 4. Goldcrest dreams and Gold Crest Dreams 3 are the major owners fo the apartments
> > 5. Majority of the owners own 1 bedroom apartments
> > 6. An overwhelming majority WANT a price reduction and some want delayed payments
> > 7. 31 out of 52 people want to physically go to ETA with the letter
> >
> >
> > This is a very good sign and now we need to review the draft before it is finalised
> >
> >
> > 52responses
> > Summary
> > Name
> > Karena L. GomesMr Sipar AhmedKhaan AdeelDaniel ThomsonSyed Shahid ImamDaniel ThomsonEugene de VilliersSyed Fattah JalilHaresh C Khatriamir mbillyKarsan?????????lynne scottPrashant Kapoormunmun namat...
> >
> > Contract with ETA signed?
> >
> > http://chart.apis.google.com/chart?cht=p&chs=345x150&chco=000...
> >
> > YES
> > 24
> > 46%
> >
> > NO
> > 28
> > 54%
> > People may select more than one checkbox, so percentages may add up to more than 100%.
> >
> >
> > Contract with Rental Guarantee?
> >
> > http://chart.apis.google.com/chart?cht=p&chs=345x150&chco=ff9...
> >
> > YES
> > 8
> > 15%
> >
> > NO
> > 24
> > 46%
> >
> > no Contract signed
> > 20
> > 38%
> > People may select more than one checkbox, so percentages may add up to more than 100%.
> >
> >
> > Development
> >
> > Gold Crest Dreams 1
> > 17
> > 33%
> >
> > Gold Crest Dreams 2
> > 10
> > 19%
> >
> > Gold Crest Dreams 3
> > 1
> > 2%
> >
> > Gold Crest Dreams 4
> > 20
> > 38%
> >
> > Other
> > 4
> > 8%
> > People may select more than one checkbox, so percentages may add up to more than 100%.
> >
> >
> > Type of Apartment
> >
> > http://chart.apis.google.com/chart?cht=p&chs=345x150&chco=dcc...
> >
> > Studio
> > 2
> > 4%
> >
> > 1 Bedroom
> > 37
> > 71%
> >
> > 2 Bedroom
> > 11
> > 21%
> >
> > 3 Bedroom
> > 0
> > 0%
> >
> > Other
> > 2
> > 4%
> > People may select more than one checkbox, so percentages may add up to more than 100%.
> > Building-Unit
> > T03-1104Goldcrest Business Vistas Office 1403C-04Type F Tower 6 Unit -910A-1206Tower 6 Unit 910C-09_2415Tower B Unit 2012C-908c-309c240C-7, A1 & A2A -02unit 1315 tower 6Tower 2 1910C-01-111C-01-111b...
> > Location
> > Emirates CityEmirates CityEmirates CityEmirates CityEmirates CityEmirates Cityemirates cityEmirates CityEmirates Cityemirates cityemirates cityEmirates City?????? ????emirates cityEmirates Cityemira...
> > karena.go...@gmail.comsiparahmed@talktalk.netkhanad...@hotmail.comdrthomson80@hotmail.comsyedshahidi...@gmail.comdrthomosn80@hotmail.comarchig...@hotmail.comsfjalil@googlemail.comshjdxb2...@gmail.co...
> > current residence
> > Dubai, UAELondon, UKKuwaitUAEUAEDubai,UAEdubai, uaeWoking, United KingdomUAEcanadaLondon???????bahrainLondon, UKU.A.EU.A.Edubai, uaeDubai, UAEOmanDubai, UAEUnited KingdomLondon, UKBahrainManama, Bah...
> > Cell phone
> > 0044771744174400965-66506736+971507984953050 893204305079849530504660851+44792126327400971508641289999990097339120774004 4-7834350470050-3416617050-341661705065114590505586015+96899434426050 342 8523...
> > Alternative contact
> > NA06 7445783+441483824128613 736 80558888800973177507890044-2085778199040-3357457040-335745704312530004 344 5417please contact via email0097317600431+982188441999971 04 344 541797143374291gcdinvesto...
> >
> > Discount Interested in
> >
> > Price Reduction
> > 33
> > 73%
> >
> > Furbished Apartment
> > 13
> > 29%
> >
> > Delayed Payment as per site progress
> > 29
> > 64%
> >
> > Increase features / quality
> > 10
> > 22%
> >
> > Other
> > 8
> > 18%
> > People may select more than one checkbox, so percentages may add up to more than 100%.
> >
> >
> > Discount NOT Interested in
> >
> > Price Reduction
> > 3
> > 13%
> >
> > Furbished Apartment
> > 15
> > 63%
> >
> > Delayed Payment as per site progress
> > 4
> > 17%
> >
> > Increase features / quality
> > 10
> > 42%
> >
> > Other
> > 5
> > 21%
> > People may select more than one checkbox, so percentages may add up to more than 100%.
> >
> >
> > Want to be part of group going to ETA
> >
> > http://chart.apis.google.com/chart?cht=p&chs=345x150&chco=000...
> >
> > YES
> > 31
> > 63%
> >
> > NO
> > 18
> > 37%
> > People may select more than one checkbox, so percentages may add up to more than 100%.
> > Comments
> > Why dont you have Goldcrest Business Vistas in your list which was launched at the same time as Goldcrest Dreams 3 but before Goldcrest Dreams 4. This is a huge officetower completly sold to investors like myself with a high price per sqft starting at AED 510 per sqft. There are many investors here. Please list this as one of the your developments. Thanks. SiparPlease keep up the good work and let's put up a united front. Best regards, The most serious problem here is our inability to realise revenue from our investment. Any serious delay such as the one that has happened affects the...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Viturin Doering
Yeganeh
As you may know, Smart City Investor succseeded to meet the GIGA
management and they are now planning to persuade them to exchange
their unit with JLT units.
They are strongly pushing this and i think they will be successful. So
why we can't move as a group and force GIGA to be responsive and
exchange our units with some ready ones.
Wirtting letter individually doesn't work. We should request a meeting
and go there and talk to the head management.
Let me know what is your opinion.
Yeganeh
On Feb 14, 10:26 am, Viturin Doering <viturin.doer...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Sam and all GCD 2 investors,
>
> I still think its better for the GCD-2 investors to write a letter - even
> though the deadlines are a bit later than the GCD-1 contract... I put the
> amended and changed letter in the attachment.
>
> If we don't write a letter, we might have disadvantage... i changed the
> letter as per the dead-lines and clauses in the GCD 2 contract available to
> me. Please other investors and Sam, help me look over it - I think that what
> I wrote in the letter is the only thing we can write... but its good enough.
>
> See attachment. *(the same file has been attached in .RTF and .PDF format)*
>
> Thanx for your feedback and regards. I plan to send this letter out by
> registered mail tomorrow.
>
> Thanx,
> --JP
>
> On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 1:51 PM, Viturin Doering
> <viturin.doer...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>
>
> > Hi Sam,
>
> > in our contract (GCD 2), the dates are as follows:
>
> > - *DELIVERY DATE*: FEBRUARY 28th, 2010
> > - *LONGSTOP DATE*: AUGUST 31st, 2010
> > - *ULTIMATE LONGSTO**P*: November 30th, 2010
>
> > Of course I wish to prevent that once they set-up an ESCROW account, that
> > we will have to PAY ALL THE MONEY that should have been paid since they
> > issues the letter asking us to STOP PAYMENTS...
>
> > I tried to adapt your letter to these dates, but I think it does not make
> > sense - I suggest that the investors who have similar dates wait until
> > AUGUST 20th and then send the letter... *What do you think?*
> > *
> > *
> > Thanx,
> > JP
>
> > On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 9:25 PM, V. (Sam) Saravanan <
> > Venkataraman.Sarava...@me.weatherford.com> wrote:
>
> >> Please fill up your details in the below format for those of you who
> >> want to go the legal way.
>
> >> I will keep track of all emails and 31st Jan will be the cut-off date.
>
> >> 1) Venkataraman Saravanan; GCD-1, Tower C, Unit 401 (Cell: 050 558
> >> 6015)
>
> >> If you are not comfy putting your cell on public, please PM me on
> >> venkataraman.sarava...@me.weatherford.com
>
> >> In the mean-time, I will follow-up on
>
> >> 1) formally communicating with Star Giga on my intentions to withdraw my
> >> funds + interest in April 2010 to see what they respond; this will help us
> >> build our legal case; I will cite all their unprofessionalism and lack of
> >> response, and sick excuses ( such as they have not updated my email after I
> >> asked them to do it on at-least 4 written occasions and now say that they
> >> have been sending updates to my old email address – a bunch of liars) in my
> >> letter.
>
> >> 2) Working with other members of this team to identify suitable legal
> >> firms.
>
> >> Regards,
>
> >> Sam
> >> ------------------------------
>
> >> *From:* gcdin...@googlegroups.com [mailto:gcdin...@googlegroups.com]
> >> *On Behalf Of *hickesh parmar
> >> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 26, 2010 5:18 PM
> >> *To:* gcdin...@googlegroups.com
> >> *Subject:* RE: Responses so far
>
> >> i would like to get a lawer and get my money back.
>
> >> count me in.
>
> >> ------------------------------
>
> >> Subject: RE: Responses so far
> >> Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 17:14:38 +0400
> >> From: Venkataraman.Sarava...@me.weatherford.com
> >> To: gcdin...@googlegroups.com
>
> >> Guys,
>
> >> JP has hit the nail spot on (once again). Thank you JP.
>
> >> Who all want to hire a lawyer and get their money back, email me
> >> confirming this (appreciate your confirmation before end of this month); we
> >> can then evaluate the total number of participant and then approach a good
> >> (but expensive) lawyer on the basis of volume discounts. I will also ask my
> >> Company to see if they can recommend any good local law firm.
>
> >> Best regards,
>
> >> Sam
>
> >> ------------------------------
>
> >> *From:* gcdin...@googlegroups.com [mailto:gcdin...@googlegroups.com]
> >> *On Behalf Of *Viturin Doering
> >> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 26, 2010 5:03 PM
> >> *To:* gcdin...@googlegroups.com
> >> *Subject:* Re: Responses so far
>
> >> Hi all,
>
> >> I fully agree with Sam. There is no use to try to contact ETA again, to
> >> visit them, etc. and to receive more empty and Bull-Shit (i.e. Force
> >> Majeure) replies!!!
>
> >> Yes, we have to take a good lawyer. And me too, I agree to give some to
> >> the lawyer. The point with volume business is correct. He has the same
> >> amount of work since its the same case, but more volume.
>
> >> Since I am not in Dubai and don't have any business trip planned to there,
> >> I can't make it, but I support you in whatever way you might need my help. I
> >> only know one law firm in Dubai (a foreign one, not cheap, but very
> >> professional), but I cannot say how good they are in regards to the Ajman
> >> issues. They would employ a local lawyer for these issues I guess, and I
> >> guess they have their ways to follow up... their contact is:
>
> >> *DLA Piper Middle East LLP*
> >> PO Box
> >> Level 6, Building 6
> >> Emaar Square
> >> Downtown Burj Dubai
> >> PO Box 121662 Dubai
> >> United Arab Emirates
> >> *+971 4 438 6100
> >>www.dlapiper.com*
>
> >> I know one of the partners there and could pass the contact to Sam or
> >> directly contact him on our behalf. But maybe its better we also evaluate
> >> other contacts and see which one is better.
>
> >> Regards,
> >> --Jean-Philippe Charpentier (JPC)
>
> >> On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 8:47 PM, V. (Sam) Saravanan <
> >> Venkataraman.Sarava...@me.weatherford.com> wrote:
>
> >> Sorry, but I clicked send accidentally.
>
> >> Continued………….
> >> Recommendation is to hire a good lawyer in Ajman (and promise him a share
> >> of the recovery) and take this legally to see if we can get our money + the
> >> interest in contract (3%) back in April 2010. Understand that each of us
> >> need to take it individually; but if we can go together to a lawyer, he will
> >> see the benefit of the volume business. I am willing to part with 25% of
> >> the paid funds if I can get the refund – I can put the money to better
> >> usage.
>
> >> ------------------------------
>
> >> *From:* V. (Sam) Saravanan
> >> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 26, 2010 4:46 PM
>
> >> *To:* 'gcdin...@googlegroups.com'
> >> *Subject:* RE: Responses so far
>
> >> Meeting face to face will be great but all of us are busy so we may not
> >> have time to travel and meet (some of you may be out of Dubai).
>
> >> Alternative suggestion would be group up in Yahoo or MSN messenger and
> >> chat for solutions.
>
> >> My gut feel is that Star Giga will refuse to meet or we will just meet
> >> with some low level asshole who is paid to lie.
>
> >> ------------------------------
>
> >> *From:* gcdin...@googlegroups.com [mailto:gcdin...@googlegroups.com]
> >> *On Behalf Of *hickesh parmar
> >> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 26, 2010 4:43 PM
>
> >> *To:* gcdin...@googlegroups.com
> >> *Subject:* RE: Responses so far
>
> >> I agree with Sam.
>
> >> also it would be good if some of us could meet up in Dubai in maybe a
> >> month from now and visit star giga to get some answers.
>
> >> ------------------------------
>
> >> Subject: RE: Responses so far
> >> Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 16:40:43 +0400
> >> From: Venkataraman.Sarava...@me.weatherford.com
> >> To: gcdin...@googlegroups.com
>
> >> Gents:
>
> >> Those of you who have
>
> >> 1) some legal experience
>
> >> 2) aware of Ajman property laws
>
> >> 3) aware of Ajman civil laws
>
> >> PLEASE OWN UP AND HELP US ALL TO HELP EACH OTHER.
>
> >> I am willing to help with contract interpretation; but my knowledge of
> >> Ajman law is nil.
>
> >> April 2010 is very close; so if we miss this opportunity to withdraw our
> >> money; we are screwed.
>
> >> Thanks,
>
> >> Sam
> >> ------------------------------
>
> >> *From:* gcdin...@googlegroups.com [mailto:gcdin...@googlegroups.com]
> >> *On Behalf Of *Hashim Hussain
> >> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 26, 2010 4:38 PM
> >> *To:* GCD Group
> >> *Subject:* Re: Responses so far
>
> >> Hey Guys,
> >> The last I read on an email was that Gold Crest project was handed over to
> >> another developer.
>
> >> They were getting in touch with all the investors and asking if
> >> they(investors) are still interested in the project finishing.
> >> That this new developer had already opened an escrow account.
> >> For all I know, this could all be a hoax.
> >> My bberry crashed so I don't have that email anymore.
>
> >> Not sure if anyone else received similar email and saved it.
>
> >> Does this mean all our hard earned money that we have paid so far is all
> >> gone?
>
> >> Hashim
>
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> >> ------------------------------
>
> >> *From: *Adeel Khan <khanad...@hotmail.com>
>
> >> *Date: *Tue, 26 Jan 2010 12:29:34 +0000
>
> >> *To: *<gcdin...@googlegroups.com>
>
> >> *Subject: *RE: Responses so far
>
> >> I have trust on GCD but its seem they are losing it now
> >> I am from Kuwait too . Please be in touch all Kuwait members my numb is
> >> 6-6506736
>
> >> ------------------------------
>
> >> Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 15:21:19 +0300
> >> Subject: Re: Responses so far
> >> From: bezz...@gmail.com
> >> To: gcdin...@googlegroups.com
>
> >> im from kuwait and am visiting dubai feb 4th. i have a gdcrest dreams
> >> property ...can anyone be kind enuff to meet with me and tell me what the
> >> hell is going on???
>
> >> On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 3:19 PM, Adeel Khan <khanad...@hotmail.com>
> >> wrote:
>
> >> Even I have tried but no response any one from Dubai here ?
>
> >> ------------------------------
>
> >> From: mkhazeni...@hotmail.com
>
> >> To: gcdin...@googlegroups.com
> >> Subject: RE: Responses so far
>
> >> Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 12:14:23 +0000
>
> >> Has anyone been to their new office in Sheikh Zayed Road?
>
> >> Perhaps it is worth going there personally and seeing if anyone will see
> >> you with regards to the latest project updates?
>
> >> As for selling it - I dont think anyone will buy, Dubai is struggling with
> >> built property let alone off plan units in Ajman, nobody will want them.
>
> ...
>
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AD
Have been following the interaction and views from various investors. And above all the well drafted letter by SAM's efforts.
To share with you'll the information that I got from the master developer R Holding office is that the Emirates City will begin handing over various buildings as from JULY 2011. This is the date, it seems power connection will be made available by FEWA.
I have been in contact with them for my another apartment there, which is under construction.
GCD being part of Emirates City, nothing will happen before July, next year.
It seems ARRA will be supporting the July 2011 hand over date issue to all the developers in Emirates city.
My intention is ONLy to share the information that I got.
Re transfer to jlt. Gigastar has done only for large investors. They are unable to do the same to single apartment holders. Due to non availability, according to their office.
Trust the above info would help each one according to their deccissions / intentions.
Regards
AD
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Yeganeh
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Dawood Ahmed
Solicitor of the Supreme Court of England
Sipar Ahmed
----- Original Message -----From: Dawood AhmedSent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 1:24 PMSubject: Re: GCD 2: ACTION PLAN
lpscott
We have apartment in goldcrest 4.
Could you please tell me what giga are offering in J.L.T
??,
Shruti at giga says they will make a decision as wether to
build gold. 4 by june time.
Yegi
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V. (Sam) Saravanan
This is only for the GCD-1 member of the Forum, others please ignore this email.
Dear all:
I am sick and tired of trying to get people to volunteer to go meet with Giga / Ajman real estate; and of constant change in plans and direction – we keep saying different things every week!
I think this is high time (at least for GCD-1) to stop talking and start acting as we are very close to the Ultimate Stop Date. I drafted a plan and a letter last week after consultation with my company lawyers; and except for Shahid, no one else confirmed that the letter was sent to Giga; further per my last two emails requesting a few volunteers, no one wants to volunteer to do the work on ground, most of you are pretty comfortable letting other carry the baton – this will not work my friends in the real world, our unity and show of enough member force is our strength in handling this case. Enough said, this will be the further course of action; you are welcome to participate or stay out – it’s purely your call.
By Wednesday, 24 Feb, those of you who are seriously interested in pursuing this the legal way and trying to get our money back from Giga; send me an email to my direct address venkatarama...@me.weatherford.com confirming that you are willing to meet up on Sunday, 28th Feb 2010 at Oasis center, Sh. Zayed road, Dubai at 12 noon; we will have an internal meeting (strictly to discuss on who will represent at the meeting and what are the key points of discussion) at the food court and go meet Giga at 1 PM (next building to Oasis center). Shahid will try to help us get an appointment with the top dog of Giga at 1 PM, if they refuse to meet, we will still go and will refuse to leave until someone responsible meet us (not their fucking Customer Reps!), else we will threaten to go legal and media straight away (and we should do this). Again going as a team in a civilized manner makes all the difference here; that’s why we need you to own up and show up.
On Thursday, 25th Feb, I will confirm to the people who have volunteered the final list of representatives, key agenda / discussion topics / etc so we can be well prepared for our Sunday meeting. I will not distribute this in the forum. Further, if you confirm and do not show up (dire emergencies excepted provided you inform us before the meeting), we will not represent you in this meeting.
Sorry about being blunt and I understand everyone has a day job and are busy, but so is Shahid and I; if you cannot spare some time for your money, my concerns are the least. If no one owns up by Wednesday, Shahid and I will go and we will fully withdraw from this (all talk no act) forum.
For GCD-1 people in outside UAE, we will be pleased to represent you provided you have sent your letter to giga and can give us a copy by email; an early response is appreciated as I need to print and collate all your emails / letters. We may later need an authorization letter to represent you but we will cross than bridge at the appropriate time and if Giga refuses to speak to us as your representation.
Finally, some members have only been sending de-motivating / discouraging emails without showing any responsibility towards finding a solution; for those of you, please exclude me from the distribution for (i) I care a dam’n (or ‘F’) and (ii) I will not respond or react to your emails.
Sincerely, Sam
From: gcdin...@googlegroups.com [mailto:gcdin...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of gopi bezzala
Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010
10:25 AM
To: gcdin...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: GCD 2: ACTION PLAN
i agree
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