Genre #34 - Spy

[Jim Van Dore]

Going over the genre document, I discovered that we never discussed Spy!

From the agenda and several random posts, there was an idea to change the name of this genre to espionage.  Here is a hastily-created listing:

34. Espionage

A. This genre consists of works featuring spies, secret agents, and secret service agencies.

B. Example keywords include thriller and political.

C. Examples include Man from U.N.C.L.E., Modesty Blaise, and Nick Fury, Agent of S.H.I.E.L.D.

Need approval of the name change as well as approval/modification of the definition, keywords, and examples.

[Bob Hughes]

There is absolutely no reason to change the name of this genre.  I went along with persiflage like anthropomorphic because an argument was made that it covered more ground than funny animal- but making a word longer just for the sake of making it longer, even in an drop-down is just out-of-control pedantiveness.

Bob Hughes

"Information is not knowledge; knowledge is not wisdom; wisdom is not truth; truth is not beauty; beauty is not love; love is not music.  Music is best."

                                                     Frank Zappa- Joe's Garage Act III

[Jim Van Dore]

Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?

(In other words...any other changes to the suggested data?)

Jim

[James Ludwig]

I have to agree with Bob. If we were naming it then espionage would
possibly be better. Since we already have spy I see no need to change
it

[Dave Reeder]

'spy' works for me.

not sure about the inclusion of nick fury as an example - shield always struck me more as fbi than cia…

dave

[Tony Rose]

I have no problem with this.  Spy or espionage -- either one will work for me.




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From: "Jim Van Dore" <jrva...@gmail.com>
To: "gcd-genre" <gcd-...@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 7:19:41 PM
Subject: [gcd-genre] Genre #34 - Spy

[James Ludwig]

See no reason to change for the sake of change but the one not used
should at least be a keyword :)

[Jim Van Dore]

That's very reasonable.

 

If we can poke our sleeping members and get this done, we can move on to our final debates.

 

Jim

[James Ludwig]

I think the only real debate is do we want to change the name. I think
at least that can be put to an immediate vote.

[Tony Rose]

No need to vote unless the sleeping members feel strongly about it.



tony

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From: "James Ludwig" <narfs...@gmail.com>
To: gcd-...@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 8:58:05 AM
Subject: Re: [gcd-genre] Genre #34 - Spy

[James Ludwig]

So is the general ambivalence to change and more support for keeping
spy mean it will stay spy?

[Tony Rose]

That's the way I would read it.

tony

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From: "James Ludwig" <narfs...@gmail.com>
To: gcd-...@googlegroups.com

Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 9:21:00 AM

[Lionel English]

I think we should keep the genre.  I do think Espionage is a better name, but don't feel strongly enough about it to overturn the history associated with Spy.

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Lionel English

San Diego, CA
lio...@beanmar.net

[Jim Van Dore]

Exactly my thinking, Tony.

On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 10:10 AM, Tony Rose <tonyr...@comcast.net> wrote:

[Mark]

Apologies for the lack of response on my part, I have no issue with
the Spy genre ..
Mark