On whether to have the user select a primary genre first

[Jim Van Dore]

Several processes of selecting genre tags have been suggested.  These are the ones of which I am aware:

1. You pick as many genre tags as you would like from a single list.

2. You must first pick one or more from these choices: drama, adventure, humor, non-fiction; then you may, but do not have to, pick as many genres from the remaining on the list.

3. You must pick between fiction and non-fiction; then you may pick as many as you would like from the remaining on the list.

4. You must pick between fiction and non-fiction; then if you pick fiction, you must pick from these choices:  drama, adventure, humor; then you may pick as many genres from the remaining on the list.

If I have missed an option, please let me know.

Jim

[Mark]

On 22 February 2012 22:15, Jim Van Dore <jrva...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Several processes of selecting genre tags have been suggested.  These are
> the ones of which I am aware:

> 1. You pick as many genre tags as you would like from a single list.

This is what I like but I remember the tech guys suggesting the people
simply could not work out how to use multiple lists. So it might be
ineffective.

> 2. You must first pick one or more from these choices: drama, adventure,
> humor, non-fiction; then you may, but do not have to, pick as many genres
> from the remaining on the list.
>
> 3. You must pick between fiction and non-fiction; then you may pick as many
> as you would like from the remaining on the list.
>
> 4. You must pick between fiction and non-fiction; then if you pick fiction,
> you must pick from these choices:  drama, adventure, humor; then you may
> pick as many genres from the remaining on the list.

From all of those multiple pick methods, I like the
fiction/non-fiction then onward but I would be curious has to what
current count is?

I wonder if it is at all possible to get some tech input here, I
really like the tag system that Wordpress uses, it would allow the
implementation of (1) but without a multiple pick select.

Thanks
Mark

[Bob Hughes]

I can't imagine the multiple pick select is that difficult.  I've seen too many data base engines built by otherwise complete incompetents (including me) that have made use of it.

At 06:50 PM 2/22/2012, you wrote:

On 22 February 2012 22:15, Jim Van Dore <jrva...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Several processes of selecting genre tags have been suggested. Â These are

> the ones of which I am aware:

> 1. You pick as many genre tags as you would like from a single list.

This is what I like but I remember the tech guys suggesting the people
simply could not work out how to use multiple lists. So it might be
ineffective.

> 2. You must first pick one or more from these choices: drama, adventure,
> humor, non-fiction; then you may, but do not have to, pick as many genres
> from the remaining on the list.
>
> 3. You must pick between fiction and non-fiction; then you may pick as many
> as you would like from the remaining on the list.
>
> 4. You must pick between fiction and non-fiction; then if you pick fiction,

> you must pick from these choices: Â drama, adventure, humor; then you may

> pick as many genres from the remaining on the list.

From all of those multiple pick methods, I like the
fiction/non-fiction then onward but I would be curious has to what
current count is?

I wonder if it is at all possible to get some tech input here, I
really like the tag system that Wordpress uses, it would allow the
implementation of (1) but without a multiple pick select.

Thanks
Mark

Bob Hughes

"Information is not knowledge; knowledge is not wisdom; wisdom is not truth; truth is not beauty; beauty is not love; love is not music.  Music is best."

                                                     Frank Zappa- Joe's Garage Act III

[Lionel English]

I am still strongly in favor of (1) and strongly opposed to the other options.

--
Lionel English

San Diego, CA
lio...@beanmar.net

[Tony Rose]

I favor 4.  And I could easily live with 2.

Do I need to present my arguments again?




tony

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From: "Jim Van Dore" <jrva...@gmail.com>
To: "gcd-genre" <gcd-...@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 4:15:00 PM
Subject: [gcd-genre] On whether to have the user select a primary genre first

[Tony Rose]

I know that there were one or two folks who complained about not knowing what to do to get multiple items from a list but I think it was just a momentary confusion that got inflated in the telling.

And how hard is it to allow more than one choice on "click" instead of "ctrl+click"?





tony

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From: "Mark" <znx...@gmail.com>
To: gcd-...@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 5:50:28 PM
Subject: Re: [gcd-genre] On whether to have the user select a primary genre first

[James Ludwig]

same as Tony 2 then 4

[bobah...@comcast.net]

I'm sticking with 1. 

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From: "James Ludwig" <narfs...@gmail.com>
To: gcd-...@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 10:36:24 AM

[Lionel English]

In a standard plain vanilla web form, clicking an item in a multi-select list selects that item and deselects any previously selected items.  CTRL-click selects an item without deselecting any previously selected items.  Works in any browser, on any OS, no special programming required.

 

There are slightly more advanced technologies that can be deployed, such as AJAX, which is widely supported, that can allow you to select multiple items from a list with just clicking--click once to select an item, click again to deselect that item.  The tech team doesn't currently have any programmers with that kind of experience, but they know they need to move in that direction.

[Lionel English]

Only if you want to hear mine again :-)

[Tony Rose]

I'm good.  :)



tr

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From: "Lionel English" <lio...@beanmar.net>
To: gcd-...@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 11:27:40 AM
Subject: Re: [gcd-genre] On whether to have the user select a primary genre first

[Brian Saner Lamken]

Jim Van Dore wrote:

> 1. You pick as many genre tags as you would like from a single list.
>
> 2. You must first pick one or more from these choices: drama, adventure, humor, non-fiction; then you may, but do not have to, pick as many genres from the remaining on the list.
>
> 3. You must pick between fiction and non-fiction; then you may pick as many as you would like from the remaining on the list.
>
> 4. You must pick between fiction and non-fiction; then if you pick fiction, you must pick from these choices: drama, adventure, humor; then you may pick as many genres from the remaining on the list.
>
> If I have missed an option, please let me know.

I was a big proponent of top-level genres at the start, but as I've said before I've come around pretty firmly to option 1 above since then.

Blam

Brian Saner Lamken
blamken.blogspot.com

"Shut up while I wipe that anti-evil goo off your lips!"
— Larry Luthor, to Joan Superman, "The Fate of Superman's Daughter!"; Superman's Girl Friend, Lois Lane #46 (DC, 1964)

[Mark]

On 23 February 2012 00:04, Bob Hughes <bobah...@comcast.net> wrote:
> I can't imagine the multiple pick select is that difficult.  I've seen too
> many data base engines built by otherwise complete incompetents (including
> me) that have made use of it.

Not the technical issue rather the user issue, where they can't
understand how to use it.

[Bob Hughes]

Such people probably shouldn't be allowed to add data in the first place.

At 10:40 PM 2/24/2012, you wrote:

On 23 February 2012 00:04, Bob Hughes <bobah...@comcast.net> wrote:

> I can't imagine the multiple pick select is that difficult.  I've seen too

> many data base engines built by otherwise complete incompetents (including
> me) that have made use of it.

Not the technical issue rather the user issue, where they can't
understand how to use it.

Bob Hughes

[Jim Van Dore]

This also I will move to a vote.

Jim

On Feb 25, 6:30 am, Bob Hughes <bobahug...@comcast.net> wrote:
> Such people probably shouldn't be allowed to add data in the first place.
>
> At 10:40 PM 2/24/2012, you wrote:
>