Re: Geelong Bangla School update

[Aminul Miazi]

Dear All,

I am a bit confused. We just formed a management committee for GBS. Even though the committee has no mandate to take any decision before being approved in a General meeting, I think it was better to discuss the Bangla school committee issue in the management committee meeting. We are a small community in Geelong, which now have a Management Committee. If we start to bypass the Committee from the day it is formed there will be no control over various committees formed for different purposes. If that continues to happen,GBS will have no reason to exist. If the intention was to form a committee for Bangla School on Sunday, it was better to communicate that before or at least after the three hours long meeting to finalize the Constitution and Management Committee for GBS, just two hours before scheduled start time of Bangla School.

It is a good idea to celebrate 21st February but there shouldn't be any confusion over who is responsible for that. My personal opinion is we should stop making policies, committees and decisions on the run.

Kind Regards,

Khalid

On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 1:25 PM, Mokhtarul Wadud <mokhtar...@deakin.edu.au> wrote:

Joglul bhai,

 

We discussed this on Sunday. Please see my mail, which reflects the decisions taken.

 

Rubel

 

From: JOGLUL KABIR
Sent: Tuesday, 9 February 2016 1:24 PM
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Subject: RE: Geelong Bangla School update

 

Dear All,

 

From my point of view, there is no difference between Geelong Bangla School Management committee and GBS. For the shake of community harmony, we believe both are same and part and parcel for each other. Celebrating 21^st February is important, it is not important who is doing that. I mean Bangla school management committee can do that. Everybody can attend in kid’s Bangla class on regular basis if he/she has an intention and scope to spend valuable time for kid’s Bangla learning. Any of us in Geelong, can spend some valuable time to share knowledge, thoughts, story, heritage etc. and can contribute to know “Bangla language”.

 

In reality, some of us have less interest to spend time on regular basis to join in kid’s Bangla class. Considering the importance of Bangla class and continue it on regular basis, it is an optional for those who has less interest to join in Kid’s Bangla class.

 

Kind Regards

 

Joglul Kabir

 

 

From: Md Mokhlesur Rahman
Sent: Tuesday, 9 February 2016 12:14 PM
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Subject: RE: Geelong Bangla School update

 

Dear all,

It seems to me that Geelong Bangla School Management committee is going to celebrate 21^st February,.  Why not GBS?

Regards

Mokhles

 

From: MD TOHIDUL ISLAM
Sent: Tuesday, 9 February 2016 11:07 AM
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Subject: Geelong Bangla School update

 

Dear All

 

Assalamualaikum. I would like to inform you that we have successfully run first bangla learning session of this year for kids at waurn ponds campus, Deakin University. During this session, the following decisions have been made for Geelong Bangla School:

 

1.       The School management committee has been formed by the following persons

i)                    Jyotish Debnath

ii)                   Mokhtarul Wadud (Rubel)

iii)                 Mahbub Rabbani

iv)                 Joglul Kabir

v)                  Ahmed Ferdous

vi)                 Md Tohidul Islam

vii)               Abu Syeed Mahmud

 

 

       2. From now bangla school session will be held fortnightly on each Sunday at building ie, waurn Ponds campus, Deakin University from 4:00 PM   to 6:00 PM  

 

         3. From next session (28^th February), kids will be divided into two groups according to their age. First group 3-6 year old kids and second group 7+ years kids

       

         4. The teachers group has been formed by the following Vabi’s

             i) Maksuda Begum

            ii) Nilufar Jahan Chowdhury

            iii) Juimoni Das

            iv) Saila Yesmin

            v) Monira Akhter

            vi) Fateha Samad

            v) Tarannum Taznin

            vi) Saima Tamanna

           vii) Mahbuba Shikha

 

         5. Geelong Bangla School will celebrate 21^st February and the venue will be announced shortly. Parents are requested to teach their kids for bangla poem or song for 21^st celebration. Each family   will  bring one food dish during that day. Joglul Vai will announce the venue and co-ordinate the food distribution for the said program.

 

       6. Geelong Bangla School management committee will prepare syllabus for each Bangla session and announce shortly.

 

I think I have covered all the issues which we discussed on last Sunday. If I miss something, please add the points with this mail.

 

Best Regards

Tohid

One behalf of Geelong Bangla School Management committee

 

 

 

 

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[JOGLUL KABIR]

Dear All,

 

There is no confusion between GBS and Bangla school committee. Bangla school program is totally a separate small endeavour for kids Bangla language learning event. We have been successfully continue Kid’s Bangla class for almost one year.

 

As I mentioned before, in reality, some of us have less or not interest to spend time on regular basis to join in kid’s Bangla class. Same as Arabic language class. It is an optional matter for those who has less interest to join. Different person has different types of interest and scope and limitation.

Considering the importance of Bangla class and to continue it on regular basis some of us could do it for him/his own interest and benefits. GBS can take initiative to do this to engage most of the people. Very limited person are regularly attend in Kid’s Bangla class. Bangla School has only interest to celebrate 21^st February event which is very relevant with Kid’s Bangla learning. For example, we have a small group of Badminton players and if Badminton players group are intend to organise any relevant event they can do it. It does not mean Badminton players group take all the roles of GBS. Similar example can be given for Geelong Cricket team or any other small play group or even Geelong Arabic Class (propose) can intend to organise some relevant event. It is impossible to organise each and every small event by GBS as a whole community.

Thank you and please attend in Kid’s Bangla class.

[Aminul Miazi]

Dear Joglul Bhai,

Arabic school and Bangla school shouldn't be compared. They are very different due to involvement of different nationalities in Arabic school. People who attend the Arabic school, they do so, not for the love of the language or culture, they do it for the love of their religion. Promoting Bangladeshi culture is in the core of GBS. If you read the final draft of the constitution, in my opinion forming separate committee without the knowledge of management committee of GBS is clear violation of the constitution. On the grounds you stated, forming thousands of committees can be justified. Doing something with few friends like badminton, isn't comparable with celebration of 21st February. As far as I know, no player ever given blood for the right of playing badminton but we did for our language.

I would think if you go ahead with the celebration of 21st February without involving GBS, GBS should organize one to fulfill it's objective as per the constitution. Otherwise, just dissolve GBS committee and keep going as we were going before. Harmony in the community is most important to me. We should maintain it at any cost. Dissolving GBS is a small cost to pay for the community harmony.

Kind Regards,

Khalid

[Sayeed Mahmud]

Dear All,

Salam. I think Geelong Bangla School (GBS) should be operated under the umbrella of Geelong Bangladesh Society (GBS). For the harmony and more integration of community's members we already proposed draft constitution and management committees to be passed by general members of the community's members in the upcoming general meeting. Which insinuate that before general meeting Geelong Bangla School (GBS) committee can run their activity as long as proposed management committee (MC) members are mandated in the general meeting. My proposal is  we can organize the general meeting in 21st February and thus dissolve any others committee other than new MC.

Sincerely

Sayeed

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[JOGLUL KABIR]

Dear Khaled Bhai,

 

Assalamu-alikum. I am more than happy to join and support if GBS ad-hoc committee to take initiative to celebrate 21^st February. As a great endeavour for Kid’s Bangla language learning we should support and keep going Bangla class on regular basis. As a Bangla class coordinator, I will let you know the venue for Bangla class on 21^st February 2016 soon.

 

For the shake of community harmony Managing Committee of GBS should take initiative about 21^st February celebration.  Rubel Vai, could you please call a meeting on behalf of GBS ad-hoc committee to celebrate 21^st February.

 

Kind Regards

 

Joglul

Bangla Class Co-ordinator

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[Omar Bashar]

Thanks Khaled Bhai for adding me in your reply. I wasn't the recipient of original message sent by Tohid Bhai and I think it wasn't meant for me or many of us who were not included in the original email. According to Joglul’s email, 21^st February program is only for people who has been regular in Bangla School classes.

 

Thanks Joglul Bhai and his team for excluding me and my family from the 21st February program and Geelong Bangla School program.

 

Kind regards,

Omar

 

 

Omar HMN Bashar, PhD

Senior Lecturer

Department of Economics

Deakin University

Waterfront Campus, Geelong

VIC 3220, AUSTRALIA

 

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[Sayeed Mahmud]

Dear Rubel Bhai,

Salam. You can take an initiative to make sure more attendants on 21st February. So that, our new management committee can inaugurate their journey in a historic day of our country. As per I concern our constitution is inactivated unless new MC taking over their chair. I think it is not difficult to organize this general meeting on that day as we still have 11 days in hand.

Sincerely

Sayeed

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[JOGLUL KABIR]

Dear Omar Bhai,

 

Assala-mualikum. I have just recognized by your email that you are not included. Please avoid to write something by personal attack such as “Joglul Bhai and his team for excluding me and my family”. I answered the mail that I got from others.   Thank you.

 

 

Kind Regards

 

Joglul

[Omar Bashar]

Dear Joglul,

Pls don't take it personal. I thought you were the main organiser of 21st Feb program and deserved my thanks for excluding me. After all I wasn't regular in Bangla classes.

Omar

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[Mokhtarul Wadud]

Dear All,

 

Peace be upon you. It is good to see streams of mails flowing on the topic in the last few hours or so. I must say that the general enthusiasm on the matter has been almost unprecedented. There have been confusions, clarifications and arguments all around. However, I thought as the convenor of the GBS ad-hoc committee, it is now time to emphasise certain points and suggest the future directions towards formation of the organisation (if at all), as per the details given below,

·         The constitution of the GBS as well as the new proposed Management Committee (MC) will only be effective from the date of the next general meeting upon approval of the constitution by the members of the community, as per the relevant clauses of the constitution.  

·         The members of the community seem to be generally interested to celebrate 21^st Feb.  We can certainly get this done in the best way possible. This celebration could be arranged by the GBS adhoc committee, in view of the general support obtained so far.

·         A proposed date of the first general meeting could be 21^st Feb., 2016, before or after the celebrations of the day.

·         A meeting of the adhoc committee will be convened soon, in order to plan for the language day celebrations and the first general meeting.

May I also request you all to be judicious in using words and phrases in group mail, so as to not jeopardise the communal harmony, and to minimise/ avoid provocation and personal offences, whether or not intended. Let’s not contribute to the cause of the consequence we have been fearful about at the first place.  Please also share your thoughts about the plan for the general meeting and celebrations of the language day, as indicated above.

Kind regards.

 

 

 

Mokhtarul Wadud

Convenor

Adhoc Committee, GBS

[MD MAHEDI HASAN BHUIYAN]

Dear all,

Sorry for interruption. I first got the information from face book post given by Tohid. In my point of view -

(1) why do we all have to attend Bangla class? You guys can continue the class since our kids are not old enough to join there. 

(2) If you want to celebrate 21 st Feb then we can celebrate either the Bangla class people's (for the kids only) or as a whole community under GBS. There is no point to form another committee to manage the classes or sports or cultural activities. We all are under GBS organisation.

(3) please let's forget whatever happened and celebrate 21st Feb as a whole GBS. The senior brothers will give the instructions hopefully.

Sorry if I make any confusions.

Regards 

Mahedi

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[Omar Bashar]

I have 2 points.

1.       Forming a committee is not essential to organize a program. We have been celebrating various cultural programs very successfully for last 7 years without having any formal committee. To my opinion, what jeopardising the communal harmony most is formation process of these committees; the sooner we get it the better.

2.       I think calling a general meeting (which is equivalent to AGM) needs 4 weeks of notice.

 

Omar

 

 

 

Omar HMN Bashar, PhD

Senior Lecturer

Department of Economics

Deakin University

Waterfront Campus, Geelong

VIC 3220, AUSTRALIA