Recent issues within GBS and some requests

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MOHAMMAD MANIRUZZAMAN

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Feb 9, 2016, 5:17:03 PM2/9/16
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Dear GBS community members,

 

Assalamu walaikum. Hope that all of you are well. This is related to the issues raised in yesterday and I’ll place some requests. Before going to the main points, I’d like to briefly inform you how GBS’s constitution is drafted and its management committee (MC) is formed.

 

Firstly, a general meeting (?) was called on 1st January 2016, giving less than 12-hours’ notice, to formulate MC and prepare documents including a constitution for the GBS. An ad-hoc committee was formed with those who attended the meeting and those who willing to contribute the cause of the GBS, frankly, open to everyone.  The committee met first time on 13th January with the first draft of GBS. They revised the draft having 4-hour-long fruitful discussions. Then the revised-draft had been circulated to the committee by email, and they again edited/compiled the draft by email and agreed to meet once more to finalise the draft and formulate MC for the GBS. Finally, the ad-hoc committee met on last Sunday, finalised the draft and formed MC. Hence, the ad-hoc committee became void. The MC is as follows.

 

President: Rubel bhai

Vice-President: Khaled bhai

Executive members: Jesmine apu and Omar bhai

General Secretary: Mahbub bhai

Treasure: Huson bhai,

Cultural Secretary: Mokhles bhai

Communication Secreatry: Mamun

Sports Secretary: Adnan

 

However, yesterday, we all came to know that another separate management committee for Bangla School has been formed and they are going to celebrate 21st February. Forming Bangla School Management Committee and celebrating 21st February with its banner without involving GBS can be the sources of division in our small community here in Geelong. It can seriously jeopardise communal harmony. With this respect, I’d like to request our President, dearest Rubel bhai, to call a MC meeting to discuss on this issues to bury the differences amongst us and I’ll also request senior community members to come forward and help Rubel bhai on this regard.

 

Sincerely,

Mamun

 

Sayeed Mahmud

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Dear Mamun Bhai,

Salam. Indeed, if it isn't formally required, it is a very good idea. However, as per the discussion in the Ad-hoc committee still one step is missing, the proposed committee and constitution have to be passed in the general meeting. Till then both are inactivated that is why a general meeting is very important. My proposal is that ad-hoc committee shall organize a general meeting followed by a cultural program in 21st February and thus activate our new MC and constitution. I think if we all rendezvous in 21st February to celebrate our historic language day, we can get maximum attendances. Since the constitution is not enacted thus we do not need to follow 4 weeks period prior to organizes a general meeting, rather we should make sure maximum future members in the initial meeting.

Sincerely

Sayeed  

Best Regard's

Abu Sayeed Mohammad Mahmud
PhD Research Student
Bio 21, 30 Flemington Road
The University of Melbourne
Parkville VIC 3052, Australia

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MAHBUB RABBANI

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Feb 9, 2016, 6:59:11 PM2/9/16
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Dear Mamun Bhai,

As far as I understand

1.       ad-hoc committee will be “void” after MC is approved by community members in a General Meeting arranged by Ad-hoc committee.

 

2.       the proposed committee has no mandate to take any decision before being approved in a General meeting( I’m sure you have good understanding of it, you are one of the active members to collect it for us from other organisation.)

 

3.       latest email from all concern shows that GBS is going arrange International Mother Language Day celebration(you are bringing a resolved issue in scene)

 

4.       Bangla class is rolling on for several months, importance of a school committee has been discussed several times during the classes, I remember last year at ripple side park(last class of previous year) during snacks time this was discussed again. I remember you were present in some of those discussions as well. It is nothing new, it is for good cause, Bangla class is a novel, timely initiative. Let’s help survive!

 

Let’s not create confusions. Let us know the facts and eliminate confusion among us.

 

Regards,

Mahbub

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JOGLUL KABIR

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Feb 9, 2016, 7:04:11 PM2/9/16
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Assalamualikum. Sayed bhai, I agree with you. There are some misleading and absolutely wrong and unnecessary information in Mamun’s email. Mamun’s raise couple of previous issue which is too late and already settled and unnecessary to discuss. Mamun should go through Rubel vai’s previous email and hope that he will not provide any misleading and unnecessary information. For the shake of community harmony, I will appreciate his realization.

 

Regards

 

Joglul

MAHBUB RABBANI

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Feb 9, 2016, 7:04:42 PM2/9/16
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Thanks sayeed Bhai,

Good proposal.

May I request all of us to have their say if you are for a General Meeting on 21st February. I believe it can be arranged if we all agree and cooperate.

 

Regards,

Mahbub

 

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Subject: Re: Recent issues within GBS and some requests

 

Dear Mamun Bhai,

SHAHRIAR REZA

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Feb 9, 2016, 7:13:54 PM2/9/16
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Dear Mamun Vai,

Walaikum as Salam.

In your email you have mentioned that ' the ad-hoc committee became void'.As per my understanding GBS constitution and MC  needs approval in the general meeting. If the ad-hoc committee is void then who is going to call the general meeting??? 

I think if you read Rubel vai's previous email you will see that all your concerns are already addressed. Rubel Vai asked for our suggestions about the plan for general meeting  and celebrations of the language day. I think we should now concentrate on these two rather than discussing a dead issue which is creating confusion and doubt.



Regards,
Shahriar Reza Adnan









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MD TOHIDUL ISLAM

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Feb 9, 2016, 7:30:21 PM2/9/16
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Dear All

 

Assalamualaikum. At first I am extremely sorry to Omar vai as I didn’t include you in my first email. As question raised about 21st celebration by Geelong Bangla School, so I propose to celebrate by Ad-hoc committee.  I agree with Sayeed vai’s proposal to have general meeting on 21st February after cultural program. I believe that ad-hoc committee is still valid and can arrange the program for 21st celebration.

 

Regards

Tohid

MOHAMMAD MANIRUZZAMAN

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Feb 9, 2016, 7:44:36 PM2/9/16
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Dear Mahbub bhai,

 

With due respect to your interpretations, I’d like say if MC doesn’t have mandate to call general meeting/AGM, how come ad-hoc committee has mandate? It was neither approved by AGM and in our draft constitution there is no such committee like “ad-hoc committee”. Only MC is allowed in the constitution. Now let’s talk about the effectiveness of our constitution as it is not approved by AGM yet. In our constitution, it says it deems effective from the very beginning we assemble to form GBS. Otherwise, all the activities in the name of GBS would become illegal. So, it is effective now if we believe in it even though it is not complete yet. It‘ll complete after approval in AGM.

 

Now try to recall the last ad-hoc committee meeting, after forming the MC we talked about its first meeting. Then why did we talk its meeting if it did not have mandate to call MC meeting?

 

Celebrating International Mother Language Day is great and I always with GBS to celebrate it.

 

If the issues with Bangla School resolves, that’s a great news. We can celebrate it together. We do not want to see any rifts amongst us.

 

Sorry, I could not attend Bangla classes which was held in Rippleside Park.

 

And finally I want to say I do not have any problems regarding legality of calling general meeting. It could be either ad-hoc committee or MC. I just put my thoughts and happy to go along with all interpretations.

 

I apologise if my email creates confusions.

 

Sincerely,

Mamun

Omar Bashar

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Feb 9, 2016, 8:00:16 PM2/9/16
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Tohid Bhai, it's alright. At least now I know it wasn't done deliberately as a punishment for not being able to attend Bangla classes on regular basis. For your information, I didn’t attend past Bangla sessions mostly because I was missed out from relevant information on dates and venues most of the time. You have probably seen my frustration in my previous email on this ground yesterday (even though Joglul Bhai took it personally).

 

To my opinion, the adhoc committee was formed to help perform specific roles (mainly related with forming a MC and prepare a constitution). Organizing a 21st Feb program is beyond the scope of its role.

 

In last Adhoc committee meeting I raised my concerns on the objective of having a formal committee for GBS. One most important response was that it would help organise various events more smoothly and efficiently. If this is the case, I really don't understand why some people are now trying to avoid newly formed MC? It may not have been approved in the General meeting yet, but what's wrong with using it (even informally) for upcoming events if using a committee is so important?

 

Regards,

Omar

 

Omar HMN Bashar, PhD

Senior Lecturer

Department of Economics

Deakin University

Waterfront Campus, Geelong

VIC 3220, AUSTRALIA


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Mokhtarul Wadud

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Feb 9, 2016, 8:01:38 PM2/9/16
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Dear Mamun,

 

Could you please read my previous e mail and let me know any concerns you have preferably in a personal mail? In my last e mail that I posted yesterday where I have summarised the main points. The last clause of the constitution entitled ‘Enforcement of the constitution’ (clause #12) says: This constitution will automatically come into effect from the day of the first general meeting of GBS.

The constitution and the MC are both proposed by the adhoc Committee. They will be only effective subject to the approval of the members of the community in the first general meeting.  The minutes of the last adhoc committee meeting have been already circulated.

I would suggest we all refrain from posting unnecessary mails in this forum, on concerns that have been already addressed.  People need to get back to work and I don’t want to waste any more time on this matter at least before COB today.

Kind regards.

 

 

Mokhtarul Wadud Rubel


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MAHBUB RABBANI

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Feb 9, 2016, 8:08:25 PM2/9/16
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Dear Mamun Bhai,

please see my notes

 

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Subject: RE: Recent issues within GBS and some requests

 

Dear Mahbub bhai, Thanks Mamun Bhai for your understanding.

 

With due respect to your interpretations, I’d like say if MC doesn’t have mandate to call general meeting/AGM, how come ad-hoc committee has mandateIt was neither approved by AGM and in our draft constitution there is no such committee like “ad-hoc committee”. Only MC is allowed in the constitution. Now let’s talk about the effectiveness of our constitution as it is not approved by AGM yet. In our constitution, it says it deems effective from the very beginning we assemble to form GBS. Otherwise, all the activities in the name of GBS would become illegal. So, it is effective now if we believe in it even though it is not complete yet. It‘ll complete after approval in AGM. ?

Now try to recall the last ad-hoc committee meeting, after forming the MC we talked about its first meeting. Then why did we talk its meeting if it did not have mandate to call MC meeting? (Ad-hoc committee was formed unanimously in a meeting attend and supported by you and others to carry out all these task. Accordingly, until a general meeting is arranged and new committee take over, ad-hoc committee is valid. This is very general practice. For more information how it works, please help yourself.)

 

Celebrating International Mother Language Day is great and I always with GBS to celebrate it. Thanks

 

If the issues with Bangla School resolves, that’s a great news. We can celebrate it together. We do not want to see any rifts amongst us. There was no issues at all.

 

Sorry, I could not attend Bangla classes which was held in Rippleside Park. Please read the mail again, I did not say you were present in that one, but I remember you were in some of the classes which is very appreciated and we want you in all future classes as well.

 

And finally I want to say I do not have any problems regarding legality of calling general meeting. It could be either ad-hoc committee or MC. I just put my thoughts and happy to go along with all interpretations. Thanks

 

I apologise if my email creates confusions. No worries! mate

 

Sincerely,

Mamun

 

Best Regards,

Sayeed Mahmud

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Feb 9, 2016, 8:15:57 PM2/9/16
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Dear Mamun Bhai

As per your mail there are some confusions, please go through my mail. Hope you will find it well

First of all Ad-hoc committee

Ad hoc committee usually formed for the special purpose or end presently under consideration (dictionary.com). Ad hoc Committee formed for a specific task or objective, and dissolved after the completion of the task or achievement of the objective (business dictionary). Forming Adhoc committee do not need any mandate, a group of people for their common interest can form such committee. 

Possible Solution

Our Ad hoc committee has proposed a management committee does not mean that this committee will be mandated in the general meeting. There may have some insertion or deletion in the general meeting. So it is the ad-hoc committee who has the right to call a general meeting to meet their objective. In our case all most every member of our community were the members of the ad-hoc committee thus become very inclusive committee. As a convenor and member secretary Rubel Bhai and Mahbub respectively can call upon ad-hoc committee to form an organizing committee for a general meeting.

Sincerely

Sayeed

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Abu Sayeed Mohammad Mahmud
PhD Research Student
Bio 21, 30 Flemington Road
The University of Melbourne
Parkville VIC 3052, Australia

Shafiul Milky

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Feb 9, 2016, 8:17:49 PM2/9/16
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salam all,

can we all pls stop here and do the following:

Feb 21 celebration by GBS
ad-hoc (convening) committee to announce feb 21 to be the date for AGM
bangla school committee to be confirmed and approved by GBS committee on feb 21

I hope we all should be reasonable enough not to continue this discussion anymore.

sorry if I hurt anyone but I trust this is getting worse, so should put an end to it.

Shafiul Milky
shafiul milky

Sayeed Mahmud

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Feb 9, 2016, 8:24:36 PM2/9/16
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Dear Shafiul Milky Bhaia,

Salam. This is a great solution.

Sincerely 

Sayeed

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Abu Sayeed Mohammad Mahmud
PhD Research Student
Bio 21, 30 Flemington Road
The University of Melbourne
Parkville VIC 3052, Australia

Sayeed Mahmud

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Feb 9, 2016, 8:26:29 PM2/9/16
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Sorry to Mahbub Bhai, in my last mail I wrote down Mahbub mistakenly instead of Mahbub bhai.

Sincerely

Sayeed

Best Regard's

Abu Sayeed Mohammad Mahmud
PhD Research Student
Bio 21, 30 Flemington Road
The University of Melbourne
Parkville VIC 3052, Australia

MAHBUB RABBANI

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Feb 9, 2016, 8:30:11 PM2/9/16
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No worries sayeed bhai, I didn’t even notice that! It happens, the old “typo”. Cheers

-Mahbub

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