Ardudrones

[Johann Van Niekerk]

Hey Sarel
If you wait a month I will be becoming a DIYdrones distribution point
in SA so you can get everthing from me Atleast you safe on shipping
cost then ,

[Sarel Wagner]

Hi Johann,

Thank you, but not to worry, I import stuff on a regular basis, got import lisence.

Rgrds

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[Craig Sutton]

Hi Johann, what is your email, and phone number. what do charge for a
brushless motor.

Regards
Craig Sutton

[Graham Dyer]

Hi Johann

 

How're things? How're the UAV's flying?

 

I'm looking for an ArduPilotMega and oilpan, have the Mediatek GPS already so don't need that. What's the cost currently?

 

regards

 

Graham

[Taqyon]

Hi

I'm not sure how I received this conversation?

Regards
Hein

[Graham Dyer]

Sorry, this was an email address I had for Johann van Niekerk

[Taqyon]

Strange, ok !

[Blackhack]

Good morning Johann,

 

I am very new to this forum and setting up your RC plane as a UAV. I do love flying and want to get into UAV's. Could you assist me on this or refer me to someone that can. I live in PTA East. I have a few nitro models and looking to get me a electric flyer (for this purpose). What do I need to convert it to UAV, and prices?

 

Thank you for your help.

 

Regards

Gerrit Leeuwner

[Christiaan van Vollenstee]

Hello,

 

Waar in Pretoria oos is jy?

 

Ek is in garsfontein, ons flieg gewoonlik daar by dalmas pad is daar ‘n flieg veld.

 

As jy sukkel met iets kan jy my maar vra ek is nie ‘n pro nie maar ek het my bixler en quad in die lug met die apm.

 

Groete

Christiaan

[Blackhack]

Hi Christiaan,

Bly daar is iemand naby. Ek is in Moreleta Park. Het voorheen ook daar gevlieg. Dink jy praat van PRF flyers club. Ken ook vir oom Hennie baie goed wat gereeld daar vlieg. 

Wanneer gaan julle weer UAV's vlieg. Hoe werk dit en wat het mens nodig om jou vliegtuig totaal UAV te maak? Ek het baie gelees en klink nie asof dit so baie nodig is nie net die APM 2 autopilot en Mission Planning Software. Of is ek verkeerd? Wat is die kostes?

Dankie vir die kontak maak.

Groete

Gerrit

[Christiaan van Vollenstee]

Hello,

 

Ja jy is 100% reg die APM 2 is al wat jy nodig het om die fliegtuig 100% auto the maak.

 

Jou grootse issue is om jou PID’s reg te kry vir jou tipe fliegtuig want anders flieg hy net weg vir jou J

 

As jy vinnag ‘n APM 2 wil he kan jy die ouens by netram kontak http://www.netram.co.za gaan na kontak en bel jared noem net dat christiaan

 

Se julle het apm 2’s en dat jy soek een ek dink hulle sin is so R2500.

 

Ek behoort seker volgende naweek te flieg, ek het ‘n paar goed wat reggemaak moet word op die flieg tuig om stabilze 100% reg te kry.

[Blackhack]

Great thanks. Ek sien hulle het nou die nuwe een APM 2.5 vir dieselfde prys. Moet eers vir my die regte vliegtuig kry met die regte payload. Eks nog nuut in die ding maar wat is PID's? Watse GPS gebruik jy op jou hardeware? Hoe akkuraat is hy? 

Hoe moeilik is dit om alles op te stel?

[Christiaan van Vollenstee]

Ek sal se die beste fliegtuig om te kry is die x8 by drone zone

 

http://dronezone.co.za/product_info.php?cPath=1_6&products_id=166

 

Ek gebruik die media tek gps wat standard saam kom en hy is baie goed hy doen die job.

 

Wat lekker is van die x8 is dat mense op diydrones se website het alklaar die pid’s uitgefigure so jy kan net dit download.

 

Die groot ding met die goed is lees.

 

http://code.google.com/p/ardupilot-mega/wiki/home?tm=6

 

begin heel bo en eindag heel onder J.

 

As jy nie 100% verstaan wat in die manual aangaan nie gaan jy die goed uit brand of jou fliegtuig beskadig.

[Blackhack]

Dankie sal bietjie lees en kyk. Ek neem aan jy het die X8? Lyk nogals na nice vliegtuig. Klink ook of daar baie settings is om in te stel. Veral op AutoPilot. Maar nie onmoontlik nie. Sal graag wil sien hoe my vliegtuig eendag self opstyg en land, maar is ver daarvandaan. 

Dankie vir die inputs. Sal jou later kontak vir meeting het so baie vrae en wil bietjie sien hoe julle dit doen.

Groete 

[Christiaan van Vollenstee]

Ek het die Hobby king bixler wat ook ‘n baie nice fliegtuig is (baie goedkoper) en die PID settings is ook op diydrones se website.

 

As jy advanced is met die APM sal jy die landing en opstuig kan doen ek dink nie baie mense doen dit al nie.

 

Kontak maar gerug, As ek volgende naweek gaan flieg sale k jou laat weet.

[Blackhack]

Dankie baie sal great wees.

Ja ek het nog baie om te leer. Wil my huidige vliegtuie convert na UAV toe maar dis 'n stadige proses.

Geniet die naweek.

Groete

[Blackhack]

Goeie more Christiaan,

Wat het jy betaal vir die Bixler en waar het jy dit gekoop?

Groete

On Thursday, October 4, 2012 12:24:52 PM UTC+2, Hoender wrote:

[Christiaan van Vollenstee]

Hello,

 

Ek het die Kit van ‘n ou gekoop in Isreal op ebay

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/plane-Trainer-kit-FTP-BIXLER-EPO-1400mm-KIT-easystar-/200828210865?pt=Radio_Control_Vehicles&hash=item2ec24b4eb1

 

dit was hier binne 2 weke in perfekte toestand, dan moet jy nog die servos and esc’s en motors koop en ek koop sulke goed by www.leadershobby.com

 

hulle is baie goed koop en ship ook baie vinnag. Jy kort net ‘n paypal account wat so 10min vat om the create http://www.paypal.com

 

Ek dink vir alles het ek so R1200 betaal.

 

Dis is rerig ‘n baie nice fliegtuig en daar is baie support op die fliegtuig met die APM.

 

Groete

[Blackhack]

Wat was jou invoer belasting en ander kostes? Veral op ebay? Ek het al baie gekyk na oorsee se modelle maar was altyd bang vir die ekstra kostes. Maar eks nou bly ek kan met iemand praat wat dit al gedoen het. 

Sjoe ja dis nie slegte prys nie. 

Ek het darem al klaar 'n paypal account so sal vinnig wees. Ship hy dit as gift?

Groete

[Taqyon]

Kan ek hier inchip.

Koop die Bixler2 direk van hobbyking. Bitter goedkoop vir wat jy kry.

Invoerbelasting is 30% van VAT. 2 -3 weke.

East.

[Christiaan van Vollenstee]

Hello,

 

Ja al die ouens ship die goed as ‘n gift so jy betaal net handling fee wat nooit meer as R100 is nie.

 

Wat lekker is met paypal is jy het buyers protection so as die ou jou omskroef dan maak jy ‘n case oop op paypal

 

En hulle sort die ou uit vir jou verniet maar ek het nog nooit serious issues gehad nie en ek voer rerig baie goed in.

[Blackhack]

Dankie vir julle input ek sal dan defenitief eerder dit oorsee koop as hier want hulle kos hier R1999 vir die Bixler en R2500 vir die X8. Ek stel ook nogals belang in die Reaper UAV model, het 'n 2.5m wingspan. Met baie payload. Maar dan is daar nie PID's vir hulle nie. Sal nog research doen. :-)

[Petrus Botha]

Ek het n skysurfer kit gekry in Centurion, hulle verkoop die fuse en vlerke apart en dan moet jy maar self besluit ten opsigte van motor, prop ens. Die sky surfer is maar presies dieselfde as n bixler. Ek persoonlik hou nie baie van die soort kite nie, die prop is te klein en die thrust is te min, veral as die vliegtuig homself uit die moeilikheid moet trek.

 

groete

 

Petrus Botha

Managing Member

 

[Christiaan van Vollenstee]

Die mense op diydrones se om nog nie te gaan vir die bixler 2 nie want die default pid’s is nog nie beskik baar nie en die groot issue wat ek het met die bixler 2 ook is dat hy flaps het,

 

Ek sal bly by die bixler 1 totdat die slim mense die bixler 2 al uitgesort het.

 

Miskien as jy lekker goed is met die instel van PID’s op ‘n fliegtuig dan kan jy daarvoor gaan.

[Christiaan van Vollenstee]

Moenie die X8 so wel as die Reaper UAV  probeer invoer jouself nie die packaging is rerig groot en hulle gaan vir jou roer.

 

My friend het ‘n x8 ingevoer en het op die einde van die dag R6000 shipping betaal dis crazy.

 

Ek sal by udrones koop hier in sa hulle het ‘n container gehuur om die x8’s in te bring dus hoekomm jy so ‘n goeie prys kry.

[Blackhack]

Cool. 

EK weet nie hoe werk PID nie maar sal nog baie lees en leer...Sal great wees om dit uit te sort want ek het 'n paar ander vliegtuie in my garage wat ek sal wil verander in UAV's veral die met die Petrol engine. Kan verder vlieg met 'n tank petrol maar dan is daar die weight issue. UAV's is vir my 'n nuwe veld wat ek nie baie van weet nie. Maar baie interessant. :-) 

Mens begin maar onder en werk jouself boontoe. :-D 

[Christiaan van Vollenstee]

Ja ek stem saam, ek het ‘n 8” prop op myne met ‘n 2900kv motor en 60 amp esc die ding is ‘n monster

 

Ek het ‘n special motor mount van small parts cnc bestel om dit te kan install.

 

http://smallpartscnc.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=50

 

 

From: gaut...@googlegroups.com [mailto:gaut...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Petrus Botha

Sent: 08 October 2012 12:00 PM

[Louis van Niekerk]

Ek FPV nou al n rukkie, ek gebruik n Bixler 1

Al wanner sy bietjie sukkel is as en die GoPro en mt TX op sit.

Ek het n grooter motor in gesit en sy vlieg soos n droom.

Ek het ook FLAPS in gesit en land nou in die klein parkie naby my huis

50m by so 75m oop are. meer as genoeg vir haar

 

---

Louis van Niekerk

[Blackhack]

Sjoe ja dit klink nice. Watse motor het jy ingesit totale package koste?Gebruik jy APM 1 of 2? Land jy in die parkie autonomously met flaps? Ek sal maar my order moet insit. :-)

Hoe werk PID's? Of is dit te detail discussion vir hierdie online discussions? 

Sukkel jy met plek of met interverance as jy die GoPro opsit?

[Christiaan van Vollenstee]

Hier is ‘n mount vir die GoPro.

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/GoPro-Hero-Quick-Release-FPV-Hobby-King-Bixler-Sky-Surfer-RC-Plane-Mount-/251154491961?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a79f96a39

 

Hein van Vlap.co.za flieg baie successful met sy gopro en bixler 1 die geheim is jy kort ‘n sterk motor en prop die standard is crap.

[Blackhack]

Watse motor is goed genoeg en prop size? En wat is sy endurance dan met daai opset?

[Christiaan van Vollenstee]

‘n 8” prop saam met ‘n 40 AMP 2100 – 2900kv motor systeem.

 

Ek het extra props wat jy by my kan koop so jy hoef nie te soek daarvoor nie.

 

Ek dink stap 1 is kry jou fliegtuig en gaan lees oor PID’s jy moet ‘n basiese verstaan daaroor he.

[Taqyon]

Wees versigtig vir die reaper hy moet baie vinnig vlieg om in die lug te bly en het nie soveel plek soos die skywalker of x8 nie. X8 is $168 by hobbyking.

Reaper kan ook nie herstel soos foam nie en het perfekte landingstrook nodig...

[Blackhack]

Baie dankie vir al julle insette. Ek sien die HobbyKing Pretoria tak is in 35 Albrecht Street, Pretoria 0182 en hulle vra R960 vir die Bixler. Goeie prys kort dan net die motor en 40 AMP. So klink vir my ek gaan Bixler gaan. Dankie vir al die inputs dit het my besluit baie makliker gemaak. 

Sal laat weet as ek hom gekoop het. Sal sommer die 2900Kv motor dan bykoop...:-)))) 

[Taqyon]

Dit is die Bixler 1 - Bixler 2 het groter interior met flaps, groter wing span, groter motor & prop, so hy kan swaarder dra, net FIY.

2012/10/8 Blackhack <gerrit....@gmail.com>

[Blackhack]

Wat is sy prys teenoor die Bixler1? Dan het jy seker nie nodig om die motor te verander nie. Watse kamera is 'n goeie geprysde kamera en waar mount jy die kamera op die Bixler? Ek sien nie 'n gat waar jou lens uitsteek nie?

[Taqyon]

Kom, gebruik bietjie die internet :P Jy gaan dit nodig he as jy wil Arduplane!

Die ARF is uitverkoop:

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=24474

Maar dis vinnig-vinnig om te bou en is cheaper met die kit $44.50:

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=27169

Ek sal verbaas wees as jy meer as R900 gaan betaal landed.

Enige vrae oor die airframe, gaan na RCGroups se Bixler 2 thread: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1703262

2012/10/8 Blackhack <gerrit....@gmail.com>

[Blackhack]

Hi Hein,

Ek was op hulle website. Dink regtig daaraan om dit intevoer. Maar sien dat die kit benodig 1 x 26~28 Size 1300kv Brushless Motor
1 x 20~30A ESC
4~5 Channel Transmitter and Reciever
1800mAh~2200mAh 3s Lipoly Battery
4 x 9g Servo for Ailerons, Elevator and Rudder
2 x 9g Servo For Flaps (Optional)
1 x Servo Reverser if using optional flaps with non-computer radio

 Wat sal die invoer en alles kos as ek dit inbring? Bedoelend wat sal invoerbelasting en al die ander kostes behalwe die kit wees? Ek gaan dan sommer die motor en res ook by hulle bestel. Ek het nog nie iets ingevoer nie so dis hoekom ek vra. Hoe het jy jou Bixler 2 opgestel?

[Blackhack]

Nice, is die fotos van die mount van jou setup op die Bixler?

[Christiaan van Vollenstee]

Hello,

 

Daai is eintlik die multiplex se mount maar dit lyk dieselfde

 

http://smallpartscnc.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=20_76_104&product_id=108

 

hier is die bixler sin, en dit werk so mooi.

 

From: gaut...@googlegroups.com [mailto:gaut...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Blackhack
Sent: 10 October 2012 01:53 PM
To: gaut...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Ardudrones

 

Nice, is die fotos van die mount van jou setup op die Bixler?

On Monday, October 8, 2012 12:13:06 PM UTC+2, Hoender wrote:

Ja ek stem saam, ek het ‘n 8” prop op myne met ‘n 2900kv motor en 60 amp esc die ding is ‘n monster

 

Ek het ‘n special motor mount van small parts cnc bestel om dit te kan install.

 

http://smallpartscnc.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=50

 

 

From: gaut...@googlegroups.com [mailto:gaut...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Petrus Botha
Sent: 08 October 2012 12:00 PM
To: gaut...@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Ardudrones

 

Ek het n skysurfer kit gekry in Centurion, hulle verkoop die fuse en vlerke apart en dan moet jy maar self besluit ten opsigte van motor, prop ens. Die sky surfer is maar presies dieselfde as n bixler. Ek persoonlik hou nie baie van die soort kite nie, die prop is te klein en die thrust is te min, veral as die vliegtuig homself uit die moeilikheid moet trek.

 

groete

 

Petrus Botha

Managing Member

 

 

From: gaut...@googlegroups.com [mailto:gaut...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christiaan van Vollenstee

[Blackhack]

En jy se jy het die 2900Kv Turnigy motor op? Het jy die mount ook my HK bestel? Watse ESC het jy gebruik? Sorry vir al die vrae ek is nog baie nuut met Elektries verstaan nie al die terme en watter size jy by watter ESC/battery kan sit nie? Ek gaan sommer alles van Hobby King af bestel en invoer hoop nie dit ruk my te veel nie. :-) Maar dit lyk baie goedkoper om dit so te doen as om dit hier te koop.

[Christiaan van Vollenstee]

Koop die motor van hobby king

 

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__7993__Turnigy2836_brushless_Outrunner_2350kv.html

 

en die

 

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=2165

 

en die motor mount koop jy sommer by small parts cnc. Sonder die mount gaan jy baie sukkel om die motor te mount.

 

En die http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=22423

 

 

En as jy als op het dan kan jy ‘n gopro op sit sonder om te worry dat hy gaan maak soos ‘n dart.

[Taqyon]

Hi

Ek is seker daarvan dat jy alles hier sal kry vir onder R1000. Maak seker jy kry 'n prop en prop adapter ook, die stock is bietjie iffy.

Ek sou 2 x 2200 batterye kry - soek die $7 special. Kry HTX900 servos. Dirt cheap in super reliable.

Ek het konstant 1 of 2 pakkies oppad na my van HK, nog nooit probleme gehad nie. Ek betaal net VAT en 'n klein handling fee.

My Bixler 2 was goed uit die boks, ek het 'n paar mods gemaak en 'n stabiliser ingesit vir FPV.

Ek vlieg Ardupilot op my Skywalker.

Groete,
Hein

2012/10/10 Blackhack <gerrit....@gmail.com>

[Blackhack]

Great, het nie geweet watter werk saam nie en daar is so baie op HK se site. Watter battery pack het jy gebruik? Servos? Het sommer die

Power HD Servo 9g/1.5kg/0.11sec gekies. en die  Turnigy nano-tech 5600mah 2S2P 50~100C Hardcase Lipo Pack Hoop dit sal werk met die motor en dat die gewig nie te swaar is nie. Maar ek dink die Bixler kan baie payload vat.

Hoe lank wag mens vir jou order? 

[Taqyon]

Sjoe daai gaan nie werk nie!

Jy het 'n 2S2P gekoop, jy kort 'n 3S1P. Die bixler gaan swaar dra aan daan 5600! Hardcase is no-no! Servos is seker ok, maar dis 'n overkill.

Sit jou order op hold ek is in 'n meeting, soek 'n 2.2 Turnigy 3S 20S.

2012/10/10 Blackhack <gerrit....@gmail.com>

[Blackhack]

Thanks Hein, What is your endurance on one battery? 

Why do you fly FPV on your Bixler and Ardopilot on the Skywalker, is there a difference? I want to fly UAV complete autonomously so which one should I get? Can only afford one. What setup do you suggest or is the one I have 100% just with smaller battery pack? Could you give me details as to why 3S and not 2S

Luckely I didn't place the order yet. Want to get all my research complete before I buy.

Thank you for your inputs. I am learning a lot here. :-)

[Taqyon]

Sorry 20C. 3S1P. Bel op 0824616593 as jy vashaak

2012/10/10 Taqyon <taq...@gmail.com>

[Taqyon]

Hi Blackhack

Jammer lang dag..

Hier is die battery wat jy nodig het: http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=8932

Hier is die servo, maar ek sien hulle is uit stock:

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=662

Nou dat ek weer kyk, die Power HD Servo 9g lyk goed, maar jou bixler gaan nie 'n 5600mah battery kan dra of eers kan pas nie! Die hardcase maak dit ook onnodig swaar.

Gorete,
Hein

2012/10/10 Taqyon <taq...@gmail.com>

[Christiaan van Vollenstee]

Hello,

 

Please find pictures attached of my bixler setup and it works very well.

 

Regards

Christiaan

[Blackhack]

Baie nice setup hoor. In foto 1 en 3 is daar 2 aerials wat uitsteek by die neus en cockpit gedeelte. Waarvoor is hulle? Watse kamera het jy gemount boop, en wat is sy specs? Sien ook jou spoed meter is geinstaleer. Wat weeg die Bixler met alles op?

[Blackhack]

Geen probleem ek verstaan. Ok dankie dat jy my se. Wat moet die gewig wees van die battery. Ek wil so sterk as moontlik gaan sodat ek die endurance kan strek. :-) So as ek 'n ligte 3000mah of selfs 4000 kan insit sal dit goed wees. As ek ArdoPilot gaan wil ek ver kan vlieg sonder worrie oor battery probleme. Maar ja as gewig issue is dan kan ek seker nie so groot een opsit nie want al die ander elektronika is ook bygevoegde gewig. Wat is die max gewig wat die Bixler kan dra?

[Christiaan van Vollenstee]

Sonder die battery is dit net so onder 1kg.

 

Die kamera is ‘n ccd kamera wat op 3DRobotics se website is dis die $99 een, sy quality is baie goed,

 

Die 2 antennas is een vir die video en 1 vir die telemitrie. Die antenna op die neus gaan agter toe gebeweeg word waneer ek my clover leafs kry.

[Blackhack]

O ok. Waarvoor gebruik jy die telemtrie. Is dit nodig in UAV's? Sorry simpel vraag seker. Ek probeer agterkom wat nodig is en wat ekstra is op die UAV's. Ja daai kamera is lekker klein. Kan hy rotate? 

Wat is die clover leafs? 

[Christiaan van Vollenstee]

Die telimitrie is die kriks van jou UAV, dit laat die flieg kominikeer met jou laptop terwyl dit daar bo flieg.

 

Ja die kamera is op ‘n gimbal en die APM beweeg die kamera sodat dit altyd reguit is waneer die fliegtuig draai.

 

Die clover leafs is ‘n advanced video transmitting antenna wat vir jou exstra range gee op jou video.

[Christiaan van Vollenstee]

Here is a nice forum post explaining how to work out what power is needed to complete your task.

 

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=28219

[Blackhack]

Thanks, this will help a lot. Do you think that I will pay more if I order a kit plane from HK than if I buy it locally? HK have nice kits I am interested in. I am just concerned when I buy a kit the box is too big and they will charge me mad figures for import. 

Interesting read about the props. :-)

[Blackhack]

Ok Hieronder is my lys van items wat ek gaan order. Wil net graag opinies hoor en wat ek dalk vergeet het. 

 

Dankie vir julle inputs.

Groete

OK	9310000095 - Hobbyking Bixler 2 EPO 1500mm w/Optional..  *This item usually ships within 3 days	$44.85	1539
	OK	T2200.3S.20 - Turnigy 2200mAh 3S 20C Lipo Pack	$7.89	229
	OK	TR_P40A - TURNIGY Plush 40amp Speed Controller	$21.99	79
	OK	T2836-2350 - Turnigy2836 brushless Outrunner 2350kv	$18.68	135
	BK	HXT900 - HXT900 9g / 1.6kg / .12sec Micro Servo  This item is on backorder*	$16.14	114

[Christiaan van Vollenstee]

Laat weet wat jou shipping kostes was en die customs.

 

From: gaut...@googlegroups.com [mailto:gaut...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Blackhack
Sent: 17 October 2012 10:30 AM
To: gaut...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Ardudrones

 

Ok Hieronder is my lys van items wat ek gaan order. Wil net graag opinies hoor en wat ek dalk vergeet het. 

 

Dankie vir julle inputs.

 

Groete

OK

9310000095 - Hobbyking Bixler 2 EPO 1500mm w/Optional..  *This item usually ships within 3 days

$44.85

1539

1

OK

T2200.3S.20 - Turnigy 2200mAh 3S 20C Lipo Pack

$7.89

229

1

OK

TR_P40A - TURNIGY Plush 40amp Speed Controller

$21.99

79

1

OK

T2836-2350 - Turnigy2836 brushless Outrunner 2350kv

$18.68

135

6

[Blackhack]

Hi Hein,

Ek het besluit om hierdie items te order maar is nie so seker oor shipping opsies nie, as ek SingPost AirParcel  vat is my totale bedrag $159 (R1400). Watter opsie vat jy altyd en is daar sekere manier om dit as gift te ship? Wat gaan die ekstra kostes wees op hierdie order?

Groete 

OK

9310000095 - Hobbyking Bixler 2 EPO 1500mm w/Optional..  *This item usually ships within 3 days

$44.85

1539

OK

T2200.3S.20 - Turnigy 2200mAh 3S 20C Lipo Pack

$7.89

229

OK

TR_P40A - TURNIGY Plush 40amp Speed Controller

$21.99

79

OK

T2836-2350 - Turnigy2836 brushless Outrunner 2350kv

$18.68

135

On Wednesday, October 10, 2012 8:25:19 PM UTC+2, Hein wrote:

[Taqyon]

Hi Gerrit

Die kamera wat ek van praat:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/251126442475?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649

foxtechfpv.com verkoop 'n beter kamera, maar $160.

Groete,
Hein

[Blackhack]

Thanks Hein die kameras lyk baie nice. 

Laat weet my maar oor die prys. Gaan dan wag met my order by HK.

Groete

[Graham Dyer]

I can wholeheartedly recommend this #16 808 camera mentioned but make sure it’s the V2 with the ‘D’ lens, it takes <almost!> GoPro quality video for $40 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Latest-808-16-V2-Lens-D-Car-Key-Camera-HD-720P-Video-out-Cable-Camcorder-120-/290793596199?pt=US_Surveillance_Digital_Video_Recorders_Cards&hash=item43b4a62527). There’s a long active thread on RCGroups: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1556994

The ebay seller doesn’t show shipping to SA as an option but if you “Contact seller”and ask, Mandy will send you a paypal invoice and the camera once paid.

 

Graham

 

From: Taqyon

Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 12:45 PM

To: gaut...@googlegroups.com

Subject: Re: Ardudrones

 

[Taqyon]

Hier is 'n clip geneem uit my bixler 2:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvFCpQ5E6OI&list=UUSedeihWNX44CDy9uCexHtQ&index=1&feature=plcp

Ek het weer gedink daar oor, ek het te veel werk in die outjie gesit, ek gaan nog 'n paar kms op hom sit :) Koop maar jou eie!

Groete,
Hein

[Blackhack]

Thanks Graham, I will look into this camera once I get my own Bixler2. Thank you for your info.

If it gives almost the same quality as GoPro then this is a very nice cam...:-)

[Taqyon]

Hi Guys

Sorry but I have quite a few HD cams and the 808 #16 gives great quality considering it's size and cost, but it does not come close to the more expensive HD camera's. It's not even on the same planet compared to the GoPro 1 let alone the Hero 2, or even the Hero 3.

Gerrit - HK has the full ARF kit in stock again, if you haven't ordered again.

I've just finished uprading mine with UHF, OSD, 600 HAD FPV cam and HD camera, wing reinforcements, better ESC, better motor, prop and prop adapter.

It's been very windy every day the last 7 days. Not a happy camper.

Gerrit - I've just ordered what I think will be a replacement for my Bixler 2, but I only expect it in 3 weeks, then I'll put by Bixler 2 up for sale. Just to confuse you further :)

[Graham Dyer]

I beg to differ: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCq7xlG7rxk

Perhaps not that close to GoPro 2 or 3 but not bad compared to 1 @ 720p and for $160 cheaper. (Or R3000 cheaper than a new GoPro in SA.)

Graham

[Blackhack]

Ok. I will investigate more...:-)) For a new guy in the UAV category you people can confuse a man very quick. :-)))

YEs I Don't think I will order before 20 Nov. So maybe I'll buy your instead depending on the price? What will it be more or less so I can begin with my budget ha ha ha ? 

[Taqyon]

Hi Gerrit

I've done the following to my Bixler:
- Reinforced the wings with CF strips
- Larger motor and better prop adapter
- Better quality prop
- Magnetic hatch on the belly for easy access to wiring, esc and bec.
- 2 Magnetic hatches behind the prop on the tail boom for access to the OSD and Receiver
- Specially built camera mount (nothing fancy but works well)
- Replaced elevator servo with something more robust (hxt 900)
- Flaps
- Stabiliser (can replaced with APM)
- Quite a few specially soldered power harnesses to distribute power with minimum wiring.
- Removable tail for easier packing when transporting.
- Longer soldered servo wires on flaps for better access when connecting up.

In short, LOTS of work :)

If I can just get the total bill of materials and shipping I'll be happy. Around R2000.

[Christiaan van Vollenstee]

Show some pics, I would love to see it.

 

Regards

Christiaan

[Blackhack]

Cool thank you for the list of work. It sounds as if you did lots of conversions. I am interested and would like to see some photos. What will shipping be? Is it included in the R2000?

I want to get a Bixler 2 so I would rather then buy yours as I don't know the imports costs.

When can you ship? Or do you want to wait for your new wing? What did you buy for replacment?

Regards

[Taqyon]

Hi sorry for the delay

I'll take some pics soon and send them.

I also replaced the motor wires as they are exceedingly thin and I've seen pictures of Bixlers melting because of it.

I have no idea what shipping will cost, but I travel to Jhb quite regularly, maybe I can take it along and you can meet me at or tambo.

I'd like to wait for my wing, I'd like to use the Bixler in the mean time, having too much fun:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wI7T9LWAwes

What radio transmitter do you currently have?

[Blackhack]

100%, Just let me know once you are coming so I can arange to go to OR. I use the DX7 Spectrum 2.4Ghz. I will wait for the pics. Thanks

When are you expecting your wing? Is it the X8?

[Taqyon]

My requirement is to have something small, easily tranportable. My Skywalker gives me an hour plus, so I've ordered a mini swift ii for the on the go fpv. I hope one more week.

[Blackhack]

So you have a Bixler 2, Skywalker, and now going to get a mini Swift 2? What do you do with each one?

[Taqyon]

The Skywalker is my main ship, carrying APM + FPV, used with ground station, laptop, the whole shebang.

The Bixler was supposed to be the fun, quick to deploy FPV plane, but the wing assembly process is a show stopper. So the Swift II is replacing the Bixler.

Besides this, my original APM plane was a Radian Pro, which I still have but haven't flown in 18 months. I also have a Mini Swift (looks like 'n micro bixler) which I thought would be good to train on, but it's so figety it's not a pleasure to fly.

BTW HK *still* has that 33% invoice shipping option, perhaps it's only offered to returning customers.

Cheers,
Hein

[Blackhack]

Ok nice. What het ek alles nodig om FPV te gaan behalwe nou 'n vliegtuig? Wat het jy alles? Veral ook as jy wil he ander moet kan sien wat jy sien?

Groete

[Taqyon]

Ah, classic vraag :)

Basies net 'n display (screen of goggles), video sender en video receiver. Dis die basics, verder kan jy dink aan OSD, beter antennas, long range radio, Return to Home, etc.

Dit hang maar af hoe ver jy wil gaan. Ek kan jou help met 'n shopping list as jy wil, maar jy moet een stap op 'n slag neem.

As jy wil APM sal jy moet fokus op dit tot jy dit onder die knie het en dan FPV, of visa versa.

Groete,
Hein

[Blackhack]

Jip sal nice wees om 'n soortvan shopping list kan he, dan weet ek wat om na te kyk.

Het jy al pics geneem van jou Bixler 2? :-)

[Taqyon]

Nognie, sal môre!

[Hein du Plessis]

Hi Gerrit

I've just received my wing and while I now need to start moving electronics from my bixler over to the wing, I'm very sad to do so.

My Bixler is now such a pleasure to fly, it's an FPV machine, no nonsense, quick to deploy, glides like crazy but can also zoom at 90kph.

I've installed the small cnc parts special motor mount, which lifts my custom motor and I've fit a 9x45 prop, WHAT A DIFFERENCE!! I've measured it's thrust at 1.3kg, and the plane is only 870g.

I can climb to 300 meters in no time, reached 2.5km in a couple of minutes.

However, it's time to move on.

Are you still interested in it? To recap:
- Upgraded quality motor
- All servos replaced with reliable branded servos
- Flaps installed (reversed servo, no need for servo reverser, although it's available if required)
- Carbon Fibre ribbon reinforced wings, with fibre tape
- Two hatches at the back, and one on the belly, all magnetized
- Thicker wiring for motor
- Tail section magnetized not glued, so easily removable
- Original unopened FPV mount for canopy
- Original unused foam canopy
- CNC Motor mount
- 9" prop (upgraded from 7")
- Quality prop adapter

I must be honest there is some wear and tear, especially some of the decals are missing, but I would remove it all and paint it.

So I'm selling the whole thing for R1700 delivered to OR Tambo.

Let me know if you need anything else, I might have spares.

Regards,
Hein

[Blackhack]

Morning Hein,

Yes, I still interested. What will be left inside if you remove all that you wanted. Will there be a receiver inside (How many channel did you use?)? What battery do you use inside? What is the extras you are talking about? 

Also, can you give me a list of all I require to make the bixler a FPV. 

When will you be at OR Tambo?

Regards

[Hein du Plessis]

Hi Gerrit

The extras I mentioned are things like the CNC Engine mount, upgraded motor, FPV pod, etc, no other electronics.

The receiver I have currently in it is a RangeLink UHF, which is not compatible with your DX7(8?) unless you buy the transmitter module.

I can offer you a couple of options:

1. I can give you the Orange receiver with Satellite for R100, which is good for about 600m range.
2. I can offer you my AR8000 Spektrum receiver, 8 Channels with Satellite (Purchased for R1200) for R550 (I currently have it on Gumtree for R700). That should be good for 1km+, I've used it in this Bixler, but did not test the limits.
3. Alternatively you can look at buying a Turnigy 9X tranmistter (About $50) and sell your DX7(8), then I can give you my Frsky transmitter module and receiver with long range antennas for R900. That should easily to 2.5 - 5km.

To have a basic FPV system, you'll need a FPV camera, transmitter, receiver and goggles or screen. You can look at Hobbykings' bundle for R3000 which includes all 4 - pretty good deal.

You might want a OSD as well (On screen Display) which is anything from $15 - $300, depending on what you want. I have a bare bones OSD that will show you your battery levels on-screen for R200.

GIve me a shout on Skype: heinduplessis, then I can give you a tour of the Bixler and we can discuss details.
I'm expecting a visit to Midrand towards the end of the week, I'll let you now.

Cheers,
Hein

[Hein du Plessis]

Oh yes, the battery - I'm flying with 2200mAh batteries, they're nice and generic, lots of models fly with it. You should be able to get one for under R150 at a local hobby shop, or I can give you one of mine (slightly used) for R90.

So if you take the Orange receiver for R100 extra and the battery for R90 you have everything you need to fly the Bixler 2, then you can take a break and upgrade to FPV later.

Cheers,
Hein