RE: [Foro-ACD:1643] para poner en practica nuestros criterios de ACD

[Lourdes Martínez]

    Muchas gracias a todos quienes comparten esta información, les aconsejo ir guardando todos estos artículos, imprimirlos y hacer un tipo de "manual" que podamos consultar cada vez que tengamos tiempo de estudiar.

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Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2012 14:57:45 -0700
From: oscar...@gmail.com
To: ganadero-a...@googlegroups.com
Subject: [Foro-ACD:1643] para poner en practica nuestros criterios de ACD

HOLA AMIG@S:

Enconte este ejercicio donde personalmente cada quien ranquea del primero a l cuarto lugar los siguientes "prototipos de ACD"
Espero les sirva y sea de su interes:

AUSTRALIAN CATTLE DOG

Base your selection of first, second, third, and fourth place in this class of six Australian Cattle Dogs on type and the structural ability to control cattle in both wide open and confined areas. When you make your selection take into consideration angulation front and rear, firm toplines, sufficient substance (but not clumsy), balanced proportions, and power.k  ABILITY Breeders describe the Australian Cattle Dog (ACD) as the greatest worker of cattle known because it possesses the agility and stamina to continue work over a period of many hours. He is required to have a strong, snapping bite capable of shifting the most stubborn beast, and the courage to head off a troublesome one and send it in the desired direction. The ACD must be able to either turn quickly out of the way of danger or flatten below a powerful kick from a steer.   Versatile, the ACD can gently herd cows to the milking barn or work stubborn pigs in a piggery; he can even work sheep if trained not to bite. In addition to conformation shows, more and more ACDs are found in obedience and tracking competitions. TYPICAL With cattle dog function in mind, the typical ACD's skull is broad and only slightly curved between the ears, flattening to a slight but definite stop. His cheeks are muscular but neither coarse nor prominent. The underjaw is strong and deep, the bite is scissors. His foreface is broad, well filled under the eye, and tapers gradually to a black nose. Lips are tight. His length of muzzle is equal to or slightly shorter than length of skull, the two planes parallel. His dark brown eyes are oval shaped, medium in size, set well apart and express alertness and intelligence; a warning or suspicious glint is characteristic. His small, pricked ears are broad at base, moderately pointed, set well apart and incline outwards. An exceptionally strong neck is required of this worker of cattle. His neck broadens to blend into his body, free from throatiness. His neck is of medium length and has a slight arch. His broad, muscular shoulders are well laid back, the upper arm appearing to be of equal length and well angled. The elbow is level with the deepest part of the brisket, half the height of the dog. Strong, round bone extends to the feet; the strong front pasterns slope slightly. The compact feet are round, the toes well arched, and the pads thick He stands 19 inches (48.3 cm) at withers. Dogs are 18-20 inches (45.7 - 50.8 cm), bitches 17-19 inches 43.2 - 48.3 cm). His length of body from breastbone to buttocks is greater than height at withers as is 10 to 9; a ratio that promotes ability to turn quickly away from danger. His level topline has a slight, strong arch over a broad loin. His tail is set on moderately low following the contours of the sloping croup, and reaches to the low hocks. His hindquarters are broad, strong and muscular, the stifles well turned.   DECIDE You have studied each drawing and read the description of typical. Do not let the black body markings on Dog B or the uneven head markings on Dog C unduly influence your four placements.   1st 2nd 3rd 4th (You can type in your choices here before looking at Robert Cole's descriptions)   DOG A Any tendency to grossness such as the direction this dog has taken, is a serious fault. This example conveys great substance and power but not in combination with agility and endurance. Robert Kileski in his book Australian Barkers and Biters likens ACD appearance to that of a small, thick-set Dingo, and faults any departure likely to diminish speed and endurance. This sound example's heavy head, body, and bone, lessens working ability to a degree, the exact proportion of degree is yours to decide. DOG B This full-profile, mouth-closed, representation of typical exhibits undesirable markings, one on his left hip and one at the base of his tail. This is a blue dog and the markings are black. Black is permitted on head but is undesirable on body. In the case of a red speckle dog, darker red markings are permissible on body, but not desirable. In both, if dark head markings are present it is desirable that the markings be even. Tom Dixon, speaker at an ACD seminar in Australia, advised that "although black body patches are undesirable, an otherwise excellent blue mottled or blue speckle specimen should not be put down under a dog without undesirable body markings which is inferior in general conformation." DOG C I have drawn his correct head in three-quarter view to illustrate required broad skull, broad foreface, ears set wide and inclined outwards, fill under the eyes, and muscular cheeks. I have given his head dark markings on the right side but not the left to emphasize that although even head markings are desirable, even is not so desirable that a lesser head would be given preference. His quick turning ability is reduced by his longer than typical body. He provides an informative contrast to the correct 10 to 9 length to height ratio of my representation of typical. His rib cage is long, not his loin (an important consideration); and although his topline is long, it is still firm. Because of his longer body in ratio to leg length, he will not endure as long at the trot or the gallop as would a more compact cattle dog. DOG D This is my representation of typical. He could be blue mottled, blue speckled or red speckled, all with or without other markings. He has a smooth, double coat with a short, dense undercoat. The outercoat is close, each hair straight, hard, and lies flat making the coat rain resistant. As an average, the hairs on the body should be from 1 to 1.5 inches in length. DOG E This over 20-inch (undesirable) long-legged example (over 20 inches disqualifies in Canada) prevents him from quickly flattening under a kick from a bullock. His long rear pasterns also prevent quick starts, turns and stops. His ears are large, but more serious, there is a lack of width between his ears, not because they are too high on the head (which sometimes occurs) but because the skull lacks required breadth; in turn, there is a lack of filling under the eyes. DOG F This poor specimen exhibits many of the faults current in the breed. To begin, he has four head faults. They are: 1. Lack of black nose pigmentation. 2. Lack of definite stop. 3. Long muzzle. 4. Large, round eye. His head is poorly constructed in many apparent ways: 1. He is steep in shoulder. 2. He is steep in upper arm. 3. His neck lacks arch and does not broaden. 4. His front legs are too far forward on his body, covering forechest, producing a hole between the front legs and uncovering the deepest part of brisket. 5. Tuck-up is pronounced. 6. Pelvis is horizontal, forcing the upper thigh and second thigh to steepen, the croup to flatten, the tail to set on high, and contributes to the dip in the soft back. 7. His bladed rather than round bone is light. 8. His flanks are shallow (and without a doubt, his loin lacks breadth).     Robert Cole's Placements of 1, 2, 3, and 4 Dog D is first place, Dog B second place, Dog C is third place and Dog A is fourth place. Aqui les dejo el link http://scrubby-creek.com/ACDJudge.htm Saludos y buena semana

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[Alvaro Hernandez]

BUEN TRABAJO EL QUE HIZO EL COMPAÑERO DEL FORO. A MUCHOS CRIADORES Y NO CRIADORES, NOS CAYO EL SACO EN NUESTROS ACD GE GE GE. REVISANDO EL TRABAJO, ME DI CUENTA QUE UN ACD DEBE EVALUARSE EN SU TRABAJO EN CAMPO Y NO SOLO EN APARIENCIA FISICA.

 

SALUDOS... 

2012/10/15 osky <oscar...@gmail.com>

[Omar Almanza]

Hola a todos me parece muy bien el ejercicio pero recordemos que para que un buen ganadero haga un buen desempeño en el arreo de ganado debe estar bien proporcionado y apegado lo más que se pueda al estandar, es por ello que marca cierta estatura y demás caracteristicas. 
Con todo respeto el material me paraece muy bueno solo que el mismo criadero que lo publica deberia llevarlo a cabo, lo menciono (como critica constructiva) porque hace referencia a los colores establecidos y sus crias estan fuera del estandar (clor higado esno deseado) , esto me hace pensar que debemos esforzarnos por el cuidado de lo que criamos ya sea con o sin pedigree, solo debemos tener en mente ACD´s balanceados y lo mas apegados al estandar.
Comentario sano, recordemos que hay quienes inician en la raza y pudieran quedarse con la idea de que un ACD puede ser de color higado o con apariencia de pointer. 

Atte.

Omar Almanza S. 

 

El Ser humano vale por lo que Es, y no por lo que Tiene!!!!

 

P.D. No imprima este mensaje si no es realmente necesario. Una tonelada de papel implica la tala de 15 árboles y el consumo de 250.000 litros de agua. El Medio Ambiente es cosa de TODOS. 

 

 

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Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2012 11:02:11 -0500
Subject: Re: [Foro-ACD:1647] para poner en practica nuestros criterios de ACD
From: campe...@gmail.com
To: ganadero-a...@googlegroups.com

[José Francisco Brito]

Difieron un poco con el autor en el orden de elección.

Segun el autor el orden deberia ser D,B,C y A

Mi ideal seria D, B, A, C

El perro A debe ser seleccionado sobre el C debido a que aunque el perro es demasiado grueso ese es un defecto originado posiblemente por la edad, la mala alimentación, o la falta de ejercicio, y estos factores no tienen que ver nada con la genetica y son corregibles.

Sin embargo  los defectos del perro C serán heredados geneticamente y de ninguna manera son corregibles.  En base a  lo anterior y en mi particular opinión preferia el perro A sobre el perro C.

Saludos.

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[Pedro Rios Valades]

Necesito un cachorro de aproximadamente 4 meses si alguien tiene alguno favor de ponerse en contacto conmigo

[fernando garcia bautista]

a mi me gusta mucho el tipo A  y D!!

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Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2012 15:25:54 -0500
Subject: Re: [Foro-ACD:1649] para poner en practica nuestros criterios de ACD
From: pepe....@gmail.com
To: ganadero-a...@googlegroups.com

[Omar Almanza]

Atte.
Omar Almanza S.
Enviado desde Windows Phone

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De: Pedro Rios Valades
Enviado: 27/10/2012 07:55 a.m.
Para: Foro Ganadero Australiano
Asunto: RE: [Foro-ACD:1650] para poner en practica nuestros criterios de ACD

Necesito un cachorro de aproximadamente 4 meses si alguien tiene alguno favor de ponerse en contacto conmigo