[galway-lug] Btrfs

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Carles Sentis

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May 21, 2012, 10:44:32 AM5/21/12
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We all know the advantages of btrfs[1], it is getting at this point very fast and stable. Something to consider using seriously.

I had my system install for a few years now and I've been upgrading Ubuntu ever since. I'm using ext4 but I was thinking on perhaps converting my partition to btrfs[1].

So, I just like peoples opinion. Is it worth the hassle? There's even tutorial[2] on converting from extX to btrfs[1], although it doesn't say it on the tutorial[2] I would assume I would need to back up everything and copy back once the conversion is done.

Thought?

[1] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/btrfs
[2] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1389279

Aaron Hastings

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May 21, 2012, 10:54:50 AM5/21/12
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Linux 3.4 came out today. The updates and changes made to Btrfs are outlined here:
http://kernelnewbies.org/Linux_3.4#head-8ad9e3d4ad73e1da565f52c2abbe9acf7efdc614

To be honest, the fact that such rapid and sweeping performance-and-otherwise changes are still being made to Btrfs doesn't bode well with me. I'm still going to give it another year or more, or until the Canonical gods decide I should use it by default.

Hey, some people even still think ext4 is too experimental, and stick with ext3 as a result.

Aaron

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Carles Sentis

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May 21, 2012, 11:06:43 AM5/21/12
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I saw the release of the new kernel yesterday and it was reading the changelog that made me think on btrfs again...

I want the latest and greatest... I want bleeding edge... I want wayland, btrfs, ... but I also don't my computer to crash... and this options are mutually exclusive.... grrrrrrrhhhhh!!!!

Gerard Ryan

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May 21, 2012, 11:18:05 AM5/21/12
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I've been using btrfs for an external disk for a while now, I've had a couple of kernel panics here and there when pulling the cable when it wasn't fully ready. My fault really, but it I think it should fail gracefully/silently rather than crashing the system. 3.4 should be pushed as an update to fedora tomorrow or soon at least, so hopefully that will be solved.

I had it as my main FS for a while. I don't remember having any major problems with it, but as I've got an SSD, ext4 was more performant by default at the time (this may have changed, not sure).

I say go for it if you don't have an ssd (although even if you do, you can probably tune it some, so that performance isn't an issue).

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Aaron Hastings

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May 21, 2012, 11:21:09 AM5/21/12
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Ah Wayland... there be a better life on the horizon... some day.

Carles Sentis

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May 22, 2012, 8:15:29 AM5/22/12
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We just got a Kernel update today and we still on 3.2. Perhaps once we the 3.4 I may think about this again.

At the same time I'm thinking. Why fix it if isn't broken? or is this me just getting lazy

gerryk

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May 22, 2012, 9:04:07 AM5/22/12
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Although BTRFS is a really cool f/s, with some excellent features, there's no way I would use it for anything but experimentation, right now.
I have done some playing with it, and the live snapshotting is pretty cool.For now, though, ext4 will do me fine.


Aaron Hastings

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May 22, 2012, 9:33:48 AM5/22/12
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On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 1:15 PM, Carles Sentis <heep...@gmail.com> wrote:
We just got a Kernel update today and we still on 3.2. Perhaps once we the 3.4 I may think about this again.

Ubuntu won't get Linux 3.4 until 12.10. They'll just stay on 3.2 and release incremental updates and security patches every 6 weeks.
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