Fwd: My investigation of the so-called COVID deaths

[Mark Venzke]

ventiators--no good

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From: Jon Rappoport <in...@nomorefakenews.com>
Date: Thu, Jul 9, 2020, 10:48 AM
Subject: My investigation of the so-called COVID deaths
To: <mark....@gmail.com>

Deaths labeled "COVID" have nothing to do with the purported virus...

My investigation of the so-called COVID deaths (To read about Jon's mega-collection, The Matrix Revealed, click here.) At this point, I've written and published over 150 articles on the COVID fraud. For every major assertion I make in the following overview, I've written at least one article. To sum it up: deaths labeled "COVID" have nothing to do with the purported virus. The purported virus has never been discovered.  A claim of discovery was made, but proper scientific procedures were never carried out. Which leaves the question: why are all these people dying? Are the deaths all stemming from the same cause?  No.  They aren't. Overview: A huge percentage of people dying have traditional diseases: flu-like illness, pneumonia, other lung infections.  Many of these deaths have been re-labeled as COVID deaths. For example, about 300,000 people a year in China die from pneumonia.  It's quite easy to call some of these deaths "COVID." A large number of people in Italy die every year from flu-like illness.  The same re-labeling occurs there. In Chinese cities, in the north of Italy, in Spain, there is very heavy air pollution.  This pollution causes severe lung conditions and exacerbates already-existing lung problems.  Some of the consequent deaths are called "COVID." As I've stated in previous articles, COVID is old people.  In New York, for example, those 65 and older account for 73.6 percent of all so-called COVID deaths in the city.  These people are actually dying, prematurely, of previous serious health conditions, plus long-term treatment with toxic drugs, plus the terror of a COVID diagnosis, plus isolation from family and friends.  Many of these people are dying in nursing homes.  No new virus required. Take that picture and it will generally describe what is happening all over the world.  COVID is old people.  In Canada, for example, 81 percent of all so-called COVID deaths occur in nursing homes. One other factor in New York.  The current hospital treatment---breathing ventilators and sedation---kills 97.2 percent of those patients over the age of 66 who are subjected to it. What about this re-labeling I mentioned?  How is it done?  Several ways.  In hospitals, doctors simply write "COVID-19" on patient files.  After patients die, their charts can be tagged "COVID." In general, there are three types of diagnosis.  No test at all---just the observation of general flu-like symptoms.  Or a PCR test, or an antibody test.  Both tests spit out "COVID" results in a significant percentage of cases.  The result has nothing to do with the detection of a unique "COVID virus."  The result is a function of the tests. What about new conditions?  Are any people dying as a result of non-traditional factors?  In any so-called pandemic, this is possible.  In the north of Italy, there were several vaccination campaigns, just prior to the announcement of "COVID."  In New York, as I pointed out, the ventilator treatment is killing patients.  Then there is the whole issue of 5G technology rollouts.  To delve into that subject, I suggest exploring the work of Arthur Firstenberg, author of The Invisible Rainbow. Do not assume that ONE CAUSE is the explanation for all so-called COVID deaths.  This is a common deep error.  "Well, if it isn't the virus, then what is it?"  There is no "it."  There is only a psychological disposition to search for an "it."  Look for MULTIPLE CAUSES. There are always outlier cases.  Unexplained deaths.  Some people are quick to jump on these cases and claim they prove the virus is real and is a killer on the loose.  Nothing could be further from the truth. "Young and healthy, suddenly dropped dead.  See, it must be the virus." No, it doesn't have to be the virus.  Unexplained cases---especially when a viral cause is arbitrarily brought on board---need to be examined very closely.  They rarely are. When I was writing my first book, AIDS INC., in 1988, I looked into a very early set of AIDS cases in Los Angeles.  They were all described as young, "previously healthy," and then "suddenly struck down by a new virus." The CDC published parts of their medical records.  From the records, it was clear "previously healthy" was a gross lie.  These young men had prior medical conditions, for which they were undoubtedly treated with toxic medicines.  There was an indication of toxic street drug use.  After an hour of reading their partial records, the diagnosis of "suddenly struck down by a new virus" was quickly dissolving. I've been investigating so-called epidemics for 30 years.  I've developed the strategy of looking for multiple causes of death that have nothing to do with the announced virus of the moment.  I've always found those causes. "The virus" is one of the greatest frauds in modern history. Use this link to order Jon's Matrix Collections. Jon Rappoport The author of three explosive collections, THE MATRIX REVEALED, EXIT FROM THE MATRIX, and POWER OUTSIDE THE MATRIX, Jon was a candidate for a US Congressional seat in the 29th District of California. He maintains a consulting practice for private clients, the purpose of which is the expansion of personal creative power. Nominated for a Pulitzer Prize, he has worked as an investigative reporter for 30 years, writing articles on politics, medicine, and health for CBS Healthwatch, LA Weekly, Spin Magazine, Stern, and other newspapers and magazines in the US and Europe. Jon has delivered lectures and seminars on global politics, health, logic, and creative power to audiences around the world. You can find this article and more at NoMoreFakeNews.

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[Randy Fischer]

Mark, please stop.

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[Eli Bothe]

You must be fucking kidding me. 

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[Eric Pleace]

OK, now we know where you stand.

I'd like to suggest Seroquel - it's a strong anti-psychotic, and it will help you sleep also. Ask your doctor if it's right for you.

Eric

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[Brian Bartholomew]

Here are doctors saying, use antiinflammatories earlier than you
otherwise would, and ventilators later than you otherwise would, and
be aggressive with drugs when the symptoms are light because once
patients have to have a ventilator the outcome rate is not good.

https://www.evms.edu/media/evms_public/departments/internal_medicine/EVMS_Critical_Care_COVID-19_Protocol.pdf

Brian

[Mark Venzke]

Brian,

Thank you for contributing positively to the discussion.

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[Mark Venzke]

I wish that I would have time to thoroughly research all things Covid--19.

I am pleasantly surprised to see in the protocol that you offered that six of the nine remedies recommended are vitamins and minerals.

I suspect that vitamins and minerals would not have appeared in a protocol 30 and more years ago.

On Fri, Jul 10, 2020, 5:54 PM 'Brian Bartholomew' via Gainesville Hackerspace <gainesville...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

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[Brian Bartholomew]

I remember reading some details of the disease process which was
preventing oxygen from getting into the blood via the lungs. The
reading said this oxygen absorption disease process was not well
treated by increased pressure (ventilators), and meanwhile ventilators
have serious side effects. But that some other drug approach treated
the transfer-blocking details better. Net result is that the
medically default approach from February of being lightweight with
treatment until patients need a ventilator was now not the best known.
Thus the newer covid treatment conclusion 'ventilators not good'.

Homeless people typically have lousy hygiene practices, yet they
didn't all die in March. How does that fact square with the claims
about transmission methods and death rate?

Brian

Brian

[Mark Venzke]

thanks again, Brian

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[writedg 2]

It has been said that it is easier to fool a person than to convince him that he has been fooled.

That said, ...hmmm, who’s fooling who?

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[Eli Bothe]

This bullshit is below me, take me off this list. 

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[Eric Pleace]

Thanks for that - true of me ....

Eric

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[maureen reschly]

Thank you Brian, Eric and Mark for engaging in civil discussion of this unprecedented response to disease and/or symptoms as the case may be.. I am sorry that so many are so closed to this civil discussion that they attack other members and resort to trying to cancel it on this space. When minds are closed science becomes dogmatic religion.  The most unscientific statement ever is 'that's impossible'. I hope that the mods don't buckle to cancel culture and I would hope that we can all learn to tolerate ideas with which we disagree and respond with respectful, cogent, evidence based rebuttal instead of sniping, name calling and character assassination. There is too much of that everywhere else. Thank you Hackerspace! ~Maureen

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[Robert Munyer]

Eli Bothe wrote:

> ... take me off this list.

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[Robert Munyer]

maureen reschly wrote:

> When minds are closed science becomes dogmatic religion.
> The most unscientific statement ever is 'that's impossible'.

Some out-of-mainstream theories (e.g. Cretaceous-Tertiary space impact)
lead to great progress, and the people who attacked their proponents
were wrong to have done so.

Other out-of-mainstream theories (e.g. Flat Earth) accomplish nothing,
except driving people away from fora where they are discussed.

The theory proposed here (that there is not actually a coronavirus
spreading pandemically in 2020) seems unlikely to lead to any kind of
progress, and likely to drive people away.

[Mark Venzke]

You are welcome.

Mark Venzke 🌳

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[Frank Lowry]

If we were to censor conflicting views would we be acting any differently from the Chinese Communist Party? I think we should be allowed to make our own decisions without fear of retaliation so long as we are not harming others.  Learning to think for oneself is preferable to being told what to think. 

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[Brian Bartholomew]

A few weeks ago Shands send out a video showing proper medical
procedure to handle a face mask in order to eat lunch. There were
three or four handwashings, because every surface of the mask is
contaminated, and after touching the mask you have to handwash before
touching anything else.

This level of careful detail is not what I see most masked people on
the street doing. The mask is concentrating the exhaled liquids on
itself, that's why it gets stinky. Then when the person on the street
touches the mask, their hand is now dirtier than it would be if they
touched their unmasked nose, which is warmer. Counterproductive.

As practiced, the mask does not reduce the need for handwashing.

Brian

[Alex Fox-Alvarez]

The Hackerspace Community is great because it is a meeting of the minds with diverse backgrounds and training where we can borrow and rely on each others' expertise.

Ego can only get in the way of collaboration towards an awesome team-generated product. 

This e-mail in not meant to be offensive but to give another perspective to some of those who feel they are being treated unfairly for their suggestions.

When I need some 3d printing advice, I go to the person who has built and rebuild 3D printers.

When I need some CNC advice, I go to someone with extensive experience or training with CNC.

When I need some help with a short wave radio, I go to someone with a radio background.

This community works because we can turn to, and trust those with more experience or specialty training.

This is no different.

When I need information on the global pandemic... No offense... but I will go to the medical health experts representing the combined knowledge subspecialists in each related field to best advise me as to what is going on and how best to protect myself and others. I am not seeking out the opinion of an investigative reporter with at best a hazy understanding of medicine, immunology, respiratory physiology, pharmacology, etc.. and how those and other complexities interplay in a diseased state. Or anyone clearly trying to sell books and capitalize on panic and confusion.

Encouraging discourse to the contrary, to me, is very much against the foundation of cooperative creator networks like hackerspace and science in general.

When navigating a high voltage electrical project that could kill me and others around me, "think for myself" is me thinking of who the best person is to consult on how to do this project safely and well, borrowing from their depth of knowledge and experience in the matter at hand. 

We turn to the experts in the fields and understand that they are the best equipped to make the best decisions with the information they have as they understand it with their massive depth of collective knowledge and understanding, and trust that they will work as a community to evaluate the data as they receive it and make effective recommendations. I am surely not going to figure out what is safest practice during COVID myself with my background, no matter how much research I do and for me to try will be putting myself and anyone around me at risk.

I hope this message finds everyone safe and well.

Cheers,

-A

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[Alex Fox-Alvarez]

I haven't expressly heard anyone claim that masks reduce the need for hand washing. We should be doing and advocating for both.

But I do follow your logical hypothesis after observing rampant poor mask behavior myself as well. 

I guess I would next wonder whether or not the behavior you described is "counterproductive" enough to offset the efficacy of mask wearing at reducing transmission rates. 

Fortunately for our group, we don't have to test this hypothesis ourselves.

 

Efficacy of mask use has been repeatedly shown in the literature to reduce transmissibility of COVID-19 per contact with an infected individual by reducing transmission of infective droplets. 

This has been demonstrated in both laboratory models and clinical/real-world settings, which would include populations of people with atrocious mask touching habits like you described.

It seems it is still best for all those infectious liquids to saturate the mask than it is for them to be spread onto people and objects the nearby vicinity with each exhale and cough. 

A non-handwasher may touch that saturated mask and contaminate only what they touch, rather than potentially everywhere they exhaled.

Here is a literature review with a diverse, global authorship and many decades of combined experience in this specific field.

I am going to keep going with what specialists the likes of these suggest.

I do think that recognizing the behaviors like you mention can help us be even safer. I actively avoid people I see practicing those poor habits when out, and avoid folks wearing materials I have learned to be substandard at preventing droplet transmission like bandanas and neck gaiters. I can't avoid them all, but each time I am able to, I effectively lower my statistical risk of becoming infected and subsequently infecting others. I also keep people I know/work with accountable for good mask practices and ask them to do the same for me if they see me do something silly like touch my mask then pick up an office phone before hand-washing- something we all can easily do.

Hope all is well. Stay safe Hackerspace!

Cheers,

-Alex

[Robert Munyer]

Alex Fox-Alvarez wrote:

> But I do follow your logical hypothesis after observing rampant
> poor mask behavior myself as well.

For many years I've been noticing illogical behavior with gloves.

For example, bussing tables while wearing gloves, then preparing
food while wearing the same gloves.

As Mr. Babbage might say, "I am not able rightly to apprehend the
kind of confusion of ideas" that could make someone think that that
is how gloves are supposed to work.

In a restaurant restroom I once saw an excellent poster about hand
washing, produced by the Florida Commissioner of Agriculture. One
of its requirements was that after washing your hands you must use
a paper towel to pull the door open. This restaurant had replaced
all of its paper towel dispensers with hot-air hand dryers.

[Brian Bartholomew]

> As Mr. Babbage might say, "I am not able rightly to apprehend the
> kind of confusion of ideas" that could make someone think that that
> is how gloves are supposed to work.

Gloves and masks are magic talismans, and generate a protective field,
like mosquito repellent. Therefore a mask still works if you've
pulled it down below your nose, or you touch it with your hands every
five minutes.

Brian