"Almost all indicators are pressing the Republicans into minority
status."
"The South now accounts for a greater share of Republican strength
than at virtually any time since the party's founding. That base is
too narrow, as even Republicans know."
All this bad news is enough to make any self-disrespecting
educationless, toothless, brainless, gun-nut, religion-grasping,
racist, body-odored hillbilly drown him- or herself in their backyard
cesspool.
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"For Republicans, the Forces Aren't With Them"
By Dan Balz
Sunday, June 14, 2009
THERE HAS BEEN MUCH CHATTER about who now speaks for the Republican
Party, and whether the GOP has a message or an agenda to combat
President Obama's popularity. Those questions are important to the
party's future, but the most serious problem remains the deeper
demographic and political forces at work in the country.
For the past few months, political analysts and demographers have been
poring over the results of the 2008 election and comparing them with
presidential results from the past two decades. From whatever angle of
their approach -- age, race, economic status, geography -- they have
come to a remarkably similar conclusion. Almost all indicators are
pressing the Republicans into minority status.
Republicans are still capable of winning individual elections, but
until they find a way to reverse, or at least minimize, these broader
changes in the country, their chances of returning to majority status
will be severely reduced.
The American Enterprise Institute and the Brookings Institution
convened a stellar cast on Friday to review what has been learned
since November. The panel included Robert Lang of Virginia Tech; Ruy
Teixeira of the Center for American Progress; William Frey of the
Brookings Institution; Bill Bishop, a Texas writer and author of "The
Big Sort"; Scott Keeter of the Pew Research Center; and Ronald
Brownstein of Atlantic Media. They presented a wealth of data about
what happened in 2008 and offered conclusions that would alarm any
Republican hopeful of a quick turnaround in the party's fortunes.
Democrats have won the popular vote in four of the past five
elections, though in one case (2000) they did not end up in the White
House. In years in which they have also won the electoral vote,
Democrats have racked up sizable margins. Obama bested John McCain by
365 to 173, and Bill Clinton's two victories were in the same range.
George W. Bush's two electoral-college victories were narrow; he won
271 votes in the disputed election of 2000 and 286 in his 2004
reelection.
What has brought this about? It's not just one thing -- it's
everything. Start with the Democrats' success in the suburbs. Lang's
formula is that demography and density have combined to help
Democrats: They dominate not just the cities but also the urbanized
suburbs that contain the largest share of the suburban population in
America.
Democratic strength in the counties around Philadelphia, around
Detroit and in Northern Virginia have squeezed Republicans
dramatically. Increasingly, Republican strength outside the urban
areas counts for less. "There's just not enough rural folks and small-
city people left in America in the key states that determine the
electoral college to offset that difference," Lang said. "You're out
of people."
That's one geographical reality. The other, which became acute in
2008, is that outside the South, Republicans are in trouble. McCain
won the South in November, but Obama swept the rest of the country by
an even bigger margin. The same pattern holds now for House and Senate
seats. Republicans may continue to win governorships in Democratic-
leaning states, but in congressional and presidential elections the
geographic divides are sizable.
Brownstein reeled off a list of statistics that all arrived at the
same place: The South now accounts for a greater share of Republican
strength than at virtually any time since the party's founding. That
base is too narrow, as even Republicans know.
Demographically, the forces at work have chipped away at what was once
a GOP-leaning majority in the country. The most important is
minorities' rising share of the vote. Whites accounted for 76 percent
of the overall electorate last November, down from 85 percent in
1988.
In the last election, there were more than 2 million additional
African American voters, about 2 million more Hispanic voters and
about a million more Asian American voters. All are groups in which
Obama increased the Democratic share of the vote over 2004. Frey
estimated that minority voters in nine states made the difference in
Obama's victory margin.
Republicans can't reverse the demographic trends; their only solution
is to increase their share of the minority vote. Opposing Judge Sonia
Sotomayor, Obama's Supreme Court nominee, because of her pride in
being a Latina won't help solve that problem.
There was much attention paid to Obama's trouble winning the votes of
white working-class voters. The bad news for Republicans is that these
voters represent a declining share of the electorate.
Since 1988, that group's proportion of the national electorate has
dropped by 15 percentage points. In Pennsylvania, Teixeira reported,
it has declined by 25 percentage points. Teixeira reported that Obama
actually won the votes of working-class whites ages 25 to 29; at this
point, they appear more culturally liberal than their elders.
As the working-class vote shrinks, the college-educated vote
increases, and Democrats are gaining a greater share of these voters.
Democrats lost white college graduates by 20 percentage points in 1988
but by four points last November. That is another big reason they have
gained strength in the suburbs.
Obama's strength among young voters was a staple of coverage
throughout his bid for the White House, although as Keeter pointed
out, he could have won in November without the votes of anyone younger
than 30. But his margin was the biggest in several decades and that
alone should worry Republicans.
Obama may appeal to younger voters, but their shift toward the
Democrats predates his candidacy. "This really is not Obama," Keeter
said. "Young voters were John Kerry's best age group. They were the
Democratic candidates' best age group in the 2006 elections, and they
were the best age group for other Democratic candidates in 2008."
Younger voters are more diverse demographically than older voters. In
2008, 62 percent were white, compared with 74 percent eight years
earlier. Projections show young voters will become increasingly
diverse. They are also less religious and more culturally liberal, two
indicators of Democratic support.
GOP strategist Mike Murphy described this in Time magazine as a coming
Republican ice age. Republicans will need a major shift to begin to
reverse these trends. That could start if there is a backlash against
Obama's governance -- and the president's agenda certainly will test
the country's tolerance for a big dose of government. But Republicans
will need to retool in other ways to make themselves more appealing to
a changing population. That debate has barely begun.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/06/13/AR2009061301209.html
Thank goodness the 'no' party has expired. Their incompetence and hatred
preceeds their evilness. Republicans are an absolute laughing stock.
"littlebopper" <jism...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:3dbe3b5f-e1fb-4d0e...@o21g2000prn.googlegroups.com...
> "GOP strategist Mike Murphy described this in Time magazine as a
> coming Republican ice age."
>
> "Almost all indicators are pressing the Republicans into minority
> status."
>
> "The South now accounts for a greater share of Republican strength
> than at virtually any time since the party's founding. That base is
> too narrow, as even Republicans know."
>
> All this bad news is enough to make any self-disrespecting
> educationless, toothless, brainless, gun-nut, religion-grasping,
> racist, body-odored hillbilly drown him- or herself in their backyard
> cesspool.
>
> -------------------------------
> "For Republicans, the Forces Aren't With Them"
>
> By Dan Balz
> Sunday, June 14, 2009
>
No matter what people in the know tell them, they can not change because
that's their
philosophy and they're going to stick with it. They are doomed. Just look
who's speaking
for them now: Rush, Palin and Gingrich, all right wing conservatives with
tendency of
extremism. All with a philosophy contrary to the vast majority of American
voters.
These people preach the conservatism of J B Society which in earlier days
was a big taboo.
And voting against everything that has to do with helping the American
workers, voting
against protection of consumers etc. don't help them a bit. I'm seeing
another party being
formed, with more prudent philosophy that shows more concern with average
American
population, responsive to people, taking the place of the present Republican
party. This
present party will remain, but will be serving their base in the South and a
small pocket
elsewhere, never winning a nation wide election.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/06/13/AR2009061301209.html
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This means nothing.
What is important is ideology and where the growing uneasiness with
thugs on boths sides of the aisle will take us in terms of regime
change in Washington.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/120857/Conservatives-Single-Largest-Ideological-Group.aspx
D Hale
Biden isn't dumb by any stretch of the imagination. He does have a
problem with opening his mouth and speaking before putting his brain in
gear, but that is not synonymous with lack of intelligence. Still, I
think everyone should offer up oblations and best wishes that nothing
befalls Obama in the next few years so that Biden doesn't become president.
The following comment makes my point.
You are one to judge. Check out who we would have had if we lost any of the
last few Republican Presidents: Dan Quayle or (shudder) Dick Cheney. I'll
take Biden any day.
"Embryano" <kin...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:f292d523-8316-41db...@o36g2000vbi.googlegroups.com...
How about stopping the cross-posting DUMB ASS.
"KStahl" <kts...@yoohoo.com> wrote in message news:4a39589f$0$22378$546...@news.usenetserver.com...
Please get a brain. Stop spamming usenet.
You're not that bright are you.
Signed,
Usenet
"Roy Blankenship" <point...@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:wsidnQHBo5Jn56TX...@earthlink.com...
I don't cross-post. I merely reply to messages that were cross-posted by
someone else. It isn't my responsibility to clean up the address list if
people like you add irrelevant items to the list.
Nothing is irrelevant to any Usenet forum unless it's commercial spam.
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Q: Why do Republicans always lose at cards?
A: Because they refuse to play with the black cards and the Queens!