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I hope the season is progressing well. We are having quite a good spring thus far.
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We are positively inclined to install two robotic milking units within a year. We have had both Lely and DeLaval look at our farm and it is agreed the layout is quite suitable for a robotic milking system. We had been thinking our 180 cow split calving herd could be milked by two robots, but are now thinking that our stocking levels could be higher through improved farm fertility and the use of grain that would be bought in to entice them into the milking parlour.
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So a question we are asking is ‘could 200 cows be milked by two robots in a split calving herd?’ or alternatively ‘should we construct an additional small plant to milk the colostrum cows?’ I had been thinking that a 6 or 8 bale herringbone would be very useful for ancillary stock handling procedures. And would not mind at all manually milking the colostrum cows as these are the cows that we mostly have to treat for mastitis.
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Kind regards
David Yates
South Auckland NZ
Hi David,
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Lely told me at the Poowong field days last week that 1 robot will only milk 70 cows!!
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Not sure if Max Warren is a participant of this group but he has been using robots in Gippsland for some years, has just updated them, and would be worth talking to.
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I can get you his contact details but will not put them on the chat line so if you reply to me.
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Cheers
max
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> We are positively inclined to install two robotic milking units within a year.
> We have had both Lely and DeLaval look at our farm and it is agreed the layout
> is quite suitable for a robotic milking system. We had been thinking our 180
> cow split calving herd could be milked by two robots, but are now thinking
> that our stocking levels could be higher through improved farm fertility and
> the use of grain that would be bought in to entice them into the milking
> parlour.
>
> So a question we are asking is Å’could 200 cows be milked by two robots in a
> split calving herd?¹ or alternatively Œshould we construct an additional small
> plant to milk the colostrum cows?¹ I had been thinking that a 6 or 8 bale
> herringbone would be very useful for ancillary stock handling procedures. And
> would not mind at all manually milking the colostrum cows as these are the
> cows that we mostly have to treat for mastitis.
>
> Kind regards
> David Yates
> South Auckland NZ
Before buying, read http://www.grazinginfo.com and Dairying > Milking,
Automatic Milking and Once a Day Milking.
70 is the maximum per unit. If you try to milk more your cows will be
standing for longer in the sun messing in the race from about 9 am until
about 11 am or later.
If like the New Zealand Greenfield one, 90% of cows will come in only once a
day on average, so do a costing on paying someone to milk once a day. There
could be someone in your area looking for part time work when their children
are at school. Milking can be done at any time. 9 am is a good time before
it gets too hot in summer and when the pasture has a slightly higher energy
leave than at 5 or 6 am.
Best wishes.
Vaughan Jones
Hamilton
New Zealand
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Hi Kendra, Max and Darold.
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Thank you for your responses.
Our top cows might milk at your average production, but not many. I expect production at about the level of the DairyNZ Greenfield project. And the split calving would help by having half of the herd on reduced milkings per day.
The capital expense of a third robot is daunting at this stage, as the production levels of this farm are not proven to the higher level needed to be profitable for a third robot. [Our production is somewhat constrained by being a certified organic farm]. At this time I feel leaving room to expand at a later date would be prudent. And for now we will continue our planning for two robots to milk 180 cows, with different stages of lactation.
I will keep the option of a small manual milking plant open, as I know that on our farm 90% of treatments we give to the herd are to our colostrum cows. It is something to check out as we visit other farmers during our next six months planning.
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Regards David Yates
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From: futur...@googlegroups.com [mailto:futur...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kendra Davis
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What were the actual costs for each system please and which companies
quoting them?
If company names are confidential, no problem.
> ken...@usyd.edu.au <mailto:ken...@usyd.edu.au>
> www.futuredairy.com.au
Best wishes.
Vaughan Jones
International Agricultural Consultant
Hamilton
New Zealand
http://www.grazinginfo.com
Vaughan has asked what the actual prices were and which company quoted
them.
The two dairies were priced at:
Conventional milking system
Plant & equipment installed $292,806 (ex GST) $322,087 (incl
GST)
Shed, concrete, yarding etc $455,600 (ex GST) $501,160 (incl
GST)
Total ($) $748,406 (ex GST)
$823,247 (incl GST)
Ave MS Capital Invested $ /cow/year $312
Automatic milking system
Plant & equipment installed $594,621 (ex GST) $654,083 (incl
GST)
Shed, concrete, yarding etc $265,000 (ex GST) $291,500(incl
GST)
Total ($) $859,621 (ex GST)
$945,583 (incl GST)
Ave MS Capital Invested $ /cow/year $358
For both installations above the "plant and equipment installed"
included milk vat, cooling system, auto cleaning, plant and equipment
installed
The Average milking system (MS) capital invested/cow/year was calculated
by dividing the total capital cost by the specified herd size and then
dividing by the effective life of the MS used (15 years for CMS and 15
years for AMS in this instance).
The conventional milking system incorporates technologies such as
automatic cup removers, electronic feeders and cleaning systems. It was
deemed that this was most appropriate as a comparison with automatic
milking systems.
Shed costs were provided by an industry consultative group which
included dairy shed designers and installers as well as milking
machinery sellers for both the AMS (DeLaval) and CMS. The sheds
themselves were neither extremely extravagant nor excessively basic.
With the AMS, a more basic dairy could be designed as the area that the
AMS takes up in the shed is quite small. It is interesting to note that
with the CMS about 60% of the cost is in the shed, concrete and yarding
whereas with the AMS about 60% was with the plant and equipment
installed.
Of course it is very important that people get their own prices, the
cost of the technology will change and also the current exchange rate
will likely impact the cost of the installation considerably. Prices
may be more competitive when castings are received from a number of
suppliers and also some people will save considerable amounts of money
by pouring their own concrete or doing some of the construction
themselves etc. Also the design of the shed will impact on the length
of the milk lines etc so the costs reported above are an indication but
will vary between installations.
I hope this info is useful.
Kind Regards
Kendra