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> Here's a drawing I did quite a few moons ago. I tried to make it
>looks like he is being rained on; how close I am to that?
>
>Opinions are always welcome =)
>
> My other questions is related to fingers: many times I see cartoons
>where furry characters have 3 fingers instead of 4 (excluding the poor
>thumb here). Why is that done?
>
>
It was a tradition started by animators and cartoonists many years ago.
It's just simpler and quicker to draw a three fingered hand.
-SirFox
Joe Ekaitis
Mickey Mouse and Minnie Mouse are the only Disney characters who do NOT grow
a fifth digit in close-ups of their hands. The rest magically have 4
fingers and a thumb when their hands dominate the shot. Weird, eh? :)
"." <sir...@thefoxden.com> wrote in message
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John
the rain. and just look at the muddy boots. :) poor guy. But, have you
ever seen the movei, "Brotherhood of the Wolf" ? this guy reminds me of
that movie for somereason. well, its the hat, coat and rain combined..
anyway, yes.. he diffently looks rained on. :)
John,
((edit. forgot fur in my first reply, :) ))
Mauricio
wrote:
> very nice, he diffently looks like a poor putupon soilder returning home in
Putupon? =)
> the rain. and just look at the muddy boots. :) poor guy. But, have you
Actually, in the context, the guy is walking towards a town, looking
for a place to stay and a job. Where he is from is a secret for now.
But, his hat is some 50 years out of fashion (shame on the people who
did the research). ;)
> ever seen the movei, "Brotherhood of the Wolf" ? this guy reminds me of
> that movie for somereason. well, its the hat, coat and rain combined..
>
Funny that you mentioned it; I actually bought the dvd last sunday.
I did see it on the theater. And, you are right: I was inpired in both
that movie and in Dire Strait's "Brother in Arms" clip.
> anyway, yes.. he diffently looks rained on. :)
>
> John,
> ((edit. forgot fur in my first reply, :) ))
>
>
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(if you need to email me, use this address =)
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> I see. It is just I have always drawn with the same number of
>fingers as we have. Since I was trying to draw the fellow (and the rest
>of the characters) a bit more furry than I usually do, I was wondering
>what should I do about the hand. Incidentally, here is an unfinished
>drawing of another character. In it you can see I did the finished hand
>with 4 fingers but the foot immediately below with 3. That foot
>confused the hell out of me, which is why I am asking for some finger
>guidance here. =)
>
Well, overall, i'd say that her limbs are pretty darned spindly. She
looks like she hasn't had a good meal in a while. Compared to the rest
of her body, her hand is drawn very small. It's a mistake that a lot of
folks make. Draw it larger, and it also gets easier to get the details
right.
There are any number of good drawing reference books out there, for both
classical figure drawing, and for more cartoony works. I've been
impressed by Antarctic Press's "how to draw manga" series. The early
issues all concentrate on some of the basics of anatomy and movement,
and are collected in a supersize Trade Paperback edition on their website.
http://www.antarctic-press.com/store/howto/howto.htm
there. Look for How To Draw Manga- Supersize TPB #1 it's about
seventeen bucks.
If you don't want to invest that much (and it really is a good value,
for what it teaches) I'd reccomend you just the single issue #24
http://www.antarctic-press.com/series/how2draw/issues/how2draw_024.htm
for about six bucks. It collects all of the advice and examples that
Fred Perry has given, easily some of the best from the series, from
basic proportion and anatomy to a good short lesson on hands and feet.
Back to your original question, i'd say to pick a 3 or 4 fingered hand,
and stick with it. I prefer four fingers and a thumb, but that's just
me. It's better if you want a more realistic look, over something
cartoony. Other random free advice (satisfaction guaranteed or all of
your money back) is to Draw Larger, which lets you see what you're
getting right, and what's going wrong much more easily, and to try and
get people to redline drawings for you, which is GREAT for pointing out
mistakes that you don't realize you're making. Everybody does that,
even the professionals every now and then.
Good luck, keep drawing, and have a spiffy timeperiod.
-SirFox
Mauricio
"." <sir...@thefoxden.com> wrote:
> > I see. It is just I have always drawn with the same number of
> >fingers as we have. Since I was trying to draw the fellow (and the rest
> >of the characters) a bit more furry than I usually do, I was wondering
> >what should I do about the hand. Incidentally, here is an unfinished
> >drawing of another character. In it you can see I did the finished hand
> >with 4 fingers but the foot immediately below with 3. That foot
> >confused the hell out of me, which is why I am asking for some finger
> >guidance here. =)
> >
> Well, overall, i'd say that her limbs are pretty darned spindly. She
> looks like she hasn't had a good meal in a while. Compared to the rest
I have to say I know girls who would make such character look fat by
comparison. ;)
Jokes apart, her people have not been having a good time recently.
First, there has not been much rain where she lives. So, rivers have
thinned, small lakes have vanished, and game has moved to better
grounds, causing the hunters in her tribe come back empty-handed. Then,
there is war between neighboring tribes to fight for whatever food is
left.
To make matters worse, there are also new people on the area: people who
are not from there and do not know or respect any of the ancient laws.
Problem is they also carry muzzle-loaded rifles (bolt action ones have
just been perfected but have not become popular), breech-loaded guns,
and a lust for gold, diamonds, and colonization.
So, the fact she looks a bit hungry is understandable. Let's just say
she's not having a good time.
> of her body, her hand is drawn very small. It's a mistake that a lot of
> folks make. Draw it larger, and it also gets easier to get the details
> right.
>
Not only that but I still do not like the pose of the hand. Oh well,
that drawing is still far from finished and will probably *suffer* many
more modifications/iterations until called done. And, it is but a
character study, so I can figure out how she looks like. =)
About the size, it is just how it ended up: I started with the head and
kept adding. usually I try to draw larger for the very reason you
mentioned.
> There are any number of good drawing reference books out there, for both
> classical figure drawing, and for more cartoony works. I've been
> impressed by Antarctic Press's "how to draw manga" series. The early
> issues all concentrate on some of the basics of anatomy and movement,
> and are collected in a supersize Trade Paperback edition on their website.
> http://www.antarctic-press.com/store/howto/howto.htm
>
> there. Look for How To Draw Manga- Supersize TPB #1 it's about
> seventeen bucks.
>
Thank you for the pointer! I've actually just ordered it.
>
> Back to your original question, i'd say to pick a 3 or 4 fingered hand,
> and stick with it. I prefer four fingers and a thumb, but that's just
> me. It's better if you want a more realistic look, over something
After some thinking, I've decided to go with a 3 fingered hand. One
of the reasons is that it will be a challenge to me. Second
> cartoony. Other random free advice (satisfaction guaranteed or all of
> your money back) is to Draw Larger, which lets you see what you're
> getting right, and what's going wrong much more easily, and to try and
> get people to redline drawings for you, which is GREAT for pointing out
> mistakes that you don't realize you're making. Everybody does that,
> even the professionals every now and then.
>
Thanks for the advice. Problem is over here I do not know any artist
to get soem feedback from... at least not in this subject. I do know I
probably have more mistakes in my drawings than lines, but I do not
worry; I do not place myself in the same league as the other artists
here. =)