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Tony Morris

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Apr 23, 2013, 12:58:39 AM4/23/13

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The functionaljava.org domain expires soon. I don't use the project
anymore and the original committers have since moved on as far as I know.

Shall I renew the domain? Is there anyone out there still stuck with
Java? What are your thoughts?

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Ted Neward

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Apr 23, 2013, 1:04:54 AM4/23/13

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Personally, I'd love to see FJ updated now that Java8 is getting
lambdas/closures, but that's a passive desire (meaning, I'm not in any
position to make those changes).

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Gary Pampara

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Apr 23, 2013, 1:07:22 AM4/23/13

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AFAIK, there is a branch that is basically ready for JDK8 lambdas that Ricky Clarkson is maintaining. In the meantime I've been busy porting the build system to SBT 0.12/0.13.

It is done, so I'll push a PR later today - the build is very simplistic, but I would expect that for a java project like this (no external dependencies etc)

Tom Adams

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Apr 23, 2013, 1:13:56 AM4/23/13

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AFAIK, I run the site on some of a work machine, if anyone would like to take this over in combination with the domain that'd be ace. That being said, I'm happy to keep it too, it's no stress.

Tom

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Gary Pampara

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Apr 23, 2013, 1:36:05 AM4/23/13

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Shouldn't the site just be hosted on github.io then?

Tony Morris

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Apr 23, 2013, 1:37:00 AM4/23/13

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Sure why not?

Tom Adams

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Apr 23, 2013, 1:43:07 AM4/23/13

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Sure! Who can I send the files to? :)

Tom

miniBill

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Apr 23, 2013, 10:05:14 AM4/23/13

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I'm still stuck with java, so I'm interested in fj.

I can help, if needed, but hosting on github.io

looks like a much better idea.

2013/4/23 Tom Adams <tomj...@gmail.com>

Gary Pampara

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Apr 23, 2013, 10:17:50 AM4/23/13

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We'll need a new repo under he functionaljava organisation on github - functionaljava.github.io

More than that we just need to commit the website as is to get it published

Bill Burdick

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Apr 23, 2013, 10:32:07 AM4/23/13

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Please keep it around. We use FJ ALL THE TIME! It's an important project -- on my short list of must-haves for Java projects.

Bill

Fred Daoud

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Apr 23, 2013, 11:08:51 AM4/23/13

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+1, love FJ

Fred

On Tue, Apr 23, 2013, at 10:32 AM, Bill Burdick wrote:

Please keep it around. We use FJ ALL THE TIME! It's an important
project -- on my short list of must-haves for Java projects.

Bill

On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 9:17 AM, Gary Pampara <[1]gpam...@gmail.com>

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We'll need a new repo under he functionaljava organisation on github

- [2]functionaljava.github.io

More than that we just need to commit the website as is to get it
published

On Apr 23, 2013 7:43 AM, "Tom Adams" <[3]tomj...@gmail.com> wrote:

Sure! Who can I send the files to? :)

Tom

On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 3:37 PM, Tony Morris <[4]tmo...@tmorris.net>
wrote:

Sure why not?

On 23/04/2013 3:36 PM, "Gary Pampara" <[5]gpam...@gmail.com> wrote:

Shouldn't the site just be hosted on [6]github.io then?

On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 7:13 AM, Tom Adams <[7]tomj...@gmail.com>

wrote:

AFAIK, I run the site on some of a work machine, if anyone would like
to take this over in combination with the domain that'd be ace. That
being said, I'm happy to keep it too, it's no stress.

Tom

On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 3:07 PM, Gary Pampara <[8]gpam...@gmail.com>

wrote:

AFAIK, there is a branch that is basically ready for JDK8 lambdas that
Ricky Clarkson is maintaining. In the meantime I've been busy porting
the build system to SBT 0.12/0.13.

It is done, so I'll push a PR later today - the build is very
simplistic, but I would expect that for a java project like this (no
external dependencies etc)

On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 7:04 AM, Ted Neward <[9]t...@tedneward.com>

wrote:

Personally, I'd love to see FJ updated now that Java8 is getting
lambdas/closures, but that's a passive desire (meaning, I'm not in
any
position to make those changes).
Ted Neward
Leading, Speaking, Consulting, Writing

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Grégoire Neuville

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Absolutely. FJ remains indispensable ; all the more with the coming of lambdas.

P.S : And the greatest thanks to the authors by the way.

Grégoire Neuville

Ricky Clarkson

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Apr 23, 2013, 3:27:32 PM4/23/13

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On the branch that Gary mentioned, as Java 8 lambdas can't target abstract classes, and as interfaces gain default and static methods (confirmed?) in Java 8, I'm converting the various 'functional' abstract classes with one abstract method to interfaces, which will be a binary incompatible change, but mostly source-compatible, i.e., you'll need to change extends to implements, and you won't need to change any anonymous classes, though you'll probably want to change them to lambdas anyway.

Any objections to that change? I think it would be better than introducing a whole new set of functional interfaces and having wrapper methods to convert to the abstract classes.

The reason Java 8 won't allow abstract classes as targets is to give freedom in implementation, plus avoiding problems with side-effecting constructors.

Beyond that, they changed some syntax since I last touched that branch and I found an IDEA bug (now fixed I believe) that had already affected a number of my refactors to make them wrong but compile, so I'll be starting over.

I'd suggest moving the FJ docs to the FJ project either directly as files or as wiki. That might not be good for Javadoc though.

Tony Morris

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Apr 23, 2013, 11:42:30 PM4/23/13

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Okay so let's allow functionaljava.org to expire, we will move the website/doc over to github.

Others still using the project can do so as usual and of course contributions are always welcome. If you would like push access please say so.

As a side note, I tend to participate in OSS projects differently to most; if you have something useful to add, you're in. There is no "leadership" or anything like that, just useful or immersing discussion.

Tom Adams

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I'd still like access mate.

Tony Morris

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Apr 23, 2013, 11:48:54 PM4/23/13

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Sure, why wouldn't you? Maybe I want clear.

miniBill

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Wouldn't it be better to keep it and CNAME it to the github website?

Mark Perry

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Nov 4, 2013, 10:40:29 PM11/4/13

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Ricky,

I wanted to play with how Java 8 integrated with FunctionalJava. What is the status of the branch of FunctionalJava for Java 8 you described and where is it located?

Mark

Ricky Clarkson

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Nov 7, 2013, 4:49:01 PM11/7/13

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Hi Mark,

My work there is blocked on https://github.com/sbt/sbt/issues/887 and similar problems in Scala. FunctionalJava's tests are written in Scala which means that even if I switch out sbt for something else or persuade it not to send .java files to scalac, I still won't be able to run the tests.

I had a couple of branches that I can probably dig up but I wouldn't say they got very far. One of them had serious problems because of a bad IntelliJ refactor.

If someone could port functionaljava to work with a recent sbt version that could be useful when the above bug gets fixed. I can make it work but by destroying the multi-module structure, because I'm crap at sbt. Or make it work with maven, including tests. Anything, just gimme a build that works, and outside an IDE! :)