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Maria McCarthy

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Aug 7, 2018, 5:58:52 PM8/7/18
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Can you please advise how you handled the return ticket requirement?  My friend has an expired return ticket, that we can pay the penalty, and change. If the “intent” is to stay 14 days, should we just get for the 14 days?  How about if they are granted the right to stay longer, and he wants to stay, and/or shorter, then we have to change again?   

 

Thanks!

K Lampon

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Aug 7, 2018, 6:12:14 PM8/7/18
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Hello Maria

14 days I feel is to short. He can detox in that time frame, but he should stay longer to help his mental recovery. Meaning  getting  involved and helping with the new people who comes to the temple. 

If he's from the USA he only has 30 days to stay in Thailand if he didn't get a visa. He can extend it either going outside and returning or going to immigration for an extension. But I think it's only once for an extension.

I live in Thailand and if you would like to contact me send me a personal email and I'll be happy to talk to you.


Kevin





On Tue, Aug 7, 2018, 11:58 PM Maria McCarthy <marm...@gmail.com> wrote:

Can you please advise how you handled the return ticket requirement?  My friend has an expired return ticket, that we can pay the penalty, and change. If the “intent” is to stay 14 days, should we just get for the 14 days?  How about if they are granted the right to stay longer, and he wants to stay, and/or shorter, then we have to change again?   

 

Thanks!

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Maria McCarthy

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Aug 7, 2018, 6:46:37 PM8/7/18
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Hello Kevin, Thank you!  I sent to his family/friends to compile a list of questions. 

 

Would you be open to get on a video conference call?  It’s free, I would need to send you a link, and anyone with the link can connect.    So a couple of his friends and family would be able to join too.

K Lampon

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Aug 7, 2018, 6:52:15 PM8/7/18
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Sure that's. Fine.. I'm currently in Madrid will be here for 2 days. 

Let me know when it's a good time.


Kevin

seda aydin

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Aug 7, 2018, 6:54:57 PM8/7/18
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Hi Maria. I think there are a couple things that must be kept in mind. 
Only the part people drink a herbal mixture for physical detox takes 5 days. Spending 9 days on top of that doesn't sound like long enough for a mental recovery.
Once he checks out the monastery he can't return for another detox. He has only one shot to use his time in the monastery for a complete recovery. 

On Wed, 8 Aug. 2018, 7:58 am Maria McCarthy, <marm...@gmail.com> wrote:

Can you please advise how you handled the return ticket requirement?  My friend has an expired return ticket, that we can pay the penalty, and change. If the “intent” is to stay 14 days, should we just get for the 14 days?  How about if they are granted the right to stay longer, and he wants to stay, and/or shorter, then we have to change again?   

 

Thanks!

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Maria McCarthy

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Aug 7, 2018, 11:26:50 PM8/7/18
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Thank you Seda!  So you would suggest, buying the ticket, for the longest time, that the visa allows, which is approximately 23 days.  Any chance the High Monk won’t allow him to extend, if my friend’s willing to stay longer? 

 

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Vince Cullen

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Aug 8, 2018, 5:56:26 AM8/8/18
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Just a couple of points:

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It is my experience that after 5 or 6 days of treatment at Thamkrabok, you or more correctly the addict-within-you, may say "I'm cured… It's a miracle… I'm checking-out to spend a couple of weeks on the beach". This is the first test of your Sajja and your commitment to a new life.  You should stay at Thamkrabok for the full duration.  Sit with your loneliness, make friends with your boredom and face your demons.

The most common regret that I hear - time after time - from individuals after treatment is "I wish I had stayed at Wat Thamkrabok for longer!"

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After Treatment :

  
New Life Foundation - A Short Film (15-minute video http://youtu.be/eMWtA-ND_m8)

Sometimes it is possible to stay at Wat Thamkrabok after treatment to ordain as a monk or nun for a while; but I would recommend travelling to Chiang Rai to the New Life Foundation international recovery community. See www.newlifethaifoundation.com where you can stay for up to 6-months.  NLF were asking for 1350 thb (US$49) per day to cover food etc. but that may not be the case any more.  You should contact them directly in advance to book a place.  Once you feel fit and well, you may then want to visit Thamkrabok again before you travel home.


Be well and kind regards.

With Metta,

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I gave up full-time employment in 2014 to devote more time to the study and practice of Buddha Dhamma and to promote wholehearted recovery in a Buddhist context through the Fifth Precept Sangha  and Hungry Ghost Retreats organisations ; and more recently through Nalagiri-Mindfulness retreats in Ireland.

In effect this means that I attend many silent meditation retreats and study retreats, as well as teaching Mindfulness retreats worldwide each year.

The important words here are 'retreat' and 'silent'.

I can be contacted by telephone, email or Skype at any time but I cannot always answer or reply immediately. Your understanding and patience is appreciated. Thank you!


Hélène Hermann

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Aug 10, 2018, 5:35:40 PM8/10/18
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Je n'ai pas lu ce message épris de bon sens à l'époque où j'enteprenais mon sejour à thamkrabok et malgré que mon état c'est amélioré considérablement depuis cette expérience, j'aurai du entendre ce message  au plus profond de mon  coeur. J'ai écourté ma venue au monastère de 7 jours. .... mon esprit aurait pu tenir ces 7 derniers jours 
Merci 



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Date : 08.08.18 12:04 (GMT+01:00)
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