Citadels for Social Discourse was "an alternative to ActivityPub for decentralized social networks?"

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Carl Hewitt

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Jul 1, 2021, 9:33:05 AMJul 1
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Thanks Jack!

 

I don’t understand why social discourse should be required to be centralized on a ledger.

 

  • Identity: Participants are identified by their public keys which can be hashed, have pet names, and other affordances.
  • Security: Security of participants information is maintained in their Citadels.  Security of communication is maintained by encryption.
  • Authenticity: Authenticity of information is maintained by provenance and signing.
  • Portability: Portability across devices is maintained by a Citadel.
  • Usability: Participants can interact with devices in their citadel including future electronic glasses.
  • Extensibility: A Citadel can be changed and upgraded over time.

 

See:

    Citadels: faster response time and better information integration than remote datacenters

       https://papers.ssrn.com/abstract=2836282

 

Regards,

Carl

https://professorhewitt.blogspot.com/

 

From: fr...@googlegroups.com <fr...@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of jack mills
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Subject: [friam] an alternative to ActivityPub for decentralized social networks?

 

 

another example of the (free) market responding to the censorship of the existing centralized social networks: https://cointelegraph.com/news/former-la-dodgers-owner-earmarks-100m-for-blockchain-based-social-media

 

because said censorship is possible due to the fact that these are centralized systems, the obvious alternative to explore is decentralization (personally, i consider "decentralized" to be a superset of "blockchain" but those two concepts are frequently conflated).

 

this will be based on a new protocol similar to ActivityPub called the Decentralized Social Networking Protocol (DSNP): https://unfinished.com/wp-content/uploads/dsnp_whitepaper.pdf

 

DSNP also addresses identity, authentication, and security.

 

 

Carl Hewitt

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William ML Leslie

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Jul 1, 2021, 11:24:56 PMJul 1
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On Thu, 1 Jul 2021, 11:33 pm Carl Hewitt, <hew...@irobust.org> wrote:

Thanks Jack!

 

I don’t understand why social discourse should be required to be centralized on a ledger.

 

  • Identity: Participants are identified by their public keys which can be hashed, have pet names, and other affordances.
  • Security: Security of participants information is maintained in their Citadels.  Security of communication is maintained by encryption.
  • Authenticity: Authenticity of information is maintained by provenance and signing.
  • Portability: Portability across devices is maintained by a Citadel.
  • Usability: Participants can interact with devices in their citadel including future electronic glasses.
  • Extensibility: A Citadel can be changed and upgraded over time.

 

See:

    Citadels: faster response time and better information integration than remote datacenters

       https://papers.ssrn.com/abstract=2836282

 

Regards,

Carl

It looks like the focus is not on the security properties that we traditionally value but rather on non-repudiation and identity association. They want to hold people responsible for stupid things they have said in the distant past and value people based on their associations.

It's an anti-privacy approach to social media. Who would have thought, big tech aren't spying on us enough? What we really need is the social panopticon.

https://professorhewitt.blogspot.com/

 

From: fr...@googlegroups.com <fr...@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of jack mills
Sent: Thursday, July 1, 2021 04:00
To: friam <fr...@googlegroups.com>
Subject: [friam] an alternative to ActivityPub for decentralized social networks?

 

 

another example of the (free) market responding to the censorship of the existing centralized social networks: https://cointelegraph.com/news/former-la-dodgers-owner-earmarks-100m-for-blockchain-based-social-media

 

because said censorship is possible due to the fact that these are centralized systems, the obvious alternative to explore is decentralization (personally, i consider "decentralized" to be a superset of "blockchain" but those two concepts are frequently conflated).

 

this will be based on a new protocol similar to ActivityPub called the Decentralized Social Networking Protocol (DSNP): https://unfinished.com/wp-content/uploads/dsnp_whitepaper.pdf

 

DSNP also addresses identity, authentication, and security.

 

 

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