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Not a Security Lunch talk, but one some of you might find interesting.

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Date: Fri, Nov 14, 2025 at 11:45 AM
Subject: Rahul Ilango on Nov 18
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   Gödel in Cryptography: Zero-Knowledge Proofs With No
        Interaction, No Setup, and Perfect Soundness

                        Rahul Ilango

                 Tuesday, November 18, 2025
                       Talk at 4:00pm
                      CoDA E401 & Zoom

Abstract:

Gödel showed that there are true but unprovable statements.  This was
bad news for Hilbert, who hoped that every true statement was provable.
In this talk, I’ll describe why Gödel’s result is, in fact, good news
for cryptography.

Specifically, Gödel’s result allows for the following strange scenario:
a cryptographic system S is insecure, but it is impossible to prove that
S is insecure.  As I will explain, in this scenario (defined carefully),
S is secure for nearly all practical purposes.

Leveraging this idea, we effectively construct — under longstanding
assumptions — a classically-impossible cryptographic dream object:
“zero-knowledge proofs for NP with no interaction, no setup, and perfect
soundness” (I won’t assume you know what this means!).  As an
application, our result lets one give an ordinary mathematical proof
that a Sudoku puzzle is solvable without revealing how to solve it.
Previously, it was not known how to do this.

Bio:

Rahul is a postdoc in theoretical computer science at the Insitute for
Advanced Study.  Before this, he did his PhD at MIT advised by Ryan
Williams.  Most of his research is in the field of computational
complexity theory, which quantifies the amount of resources — like time
and hardware — needed to solve computational tasks, like finding the
fastest route from point A to point B on a map.
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