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Cindee Karns
Mar 10, 2011, 10:53:06 PM3/10/11
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Hey you guys,
I saw you don't have pork on your list and this guy was just on the PERMACULTURE NING SITE:
I saw you don't have pork on your list and this guy was just on the PERMACULTURE NING SITE:
NEW CSA offering local checmical free veggies and pigs
If anyone is interested feel free to check out our website or call for more info.
Sun Circle Farm
Also, if you are getting grain from Delta, why not add Delta Meats? http://deltameat.com/
One more question: if I figure out how to grow mushrooms, can you sell them? Or does it have to me from a certified farmer?
Cindee
Mary
Mar 11, 2011, 3:40:32 AM3/11/11
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Hi Cindee - No, you don't have to be certified. You may have to get
a business license, I'm not sure yet - I'm still waiting to hear back
from the municipality. Thanks for the adds for the pork and Delta
meats. We welcome all input.
Mary
On Mar 10, 6:53 pm, Cindee Karns <cindee.ka...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hey you guys,
>
> I saw you don't have pork on your list and this guy was just on the
> PERMACULTURE NING SITE:
> NEW CSA offering local checmical free veggies and pigs
>
> - Posted by Steve
> Rubinstein<http://akpermaculture.ning.com/profile/SteveRubinstein>on
>
> <http://akpermaculture.ning.com/profiles/message/newFromProfile?screen...><http://akpermaculture.ning.com/profiles/blog/list?user=2ou1tjx0n8xww>
a business license, I'm not sure yet - I'm still waiting to hear back
from the municipality. Thanks for the adds for the pork and Delta
meats. We welcome all input.
Mary
On Mar 10, 6:53 pm, Cindee Karns <cindee.ka...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hey you guys,
>
> I saw you don't have pork on your list and this guy was just on the
> PERMACULTURE NING SITE:
> NEW CSA offering local checmical free veggies and pigs
>
> Rubinstein<http://akpermaculture.ning.com/profile/SteveRubinstein>on
> February 25, 2011 at 12:04am
> -
>
> <http://akpermaculture.ning.com/profiles/message/newFromProfile?screen...><http://akpermaculture.ning.com/profiles/blog/list?user=2ou1tjx0n8xww>
>
> If anyone is interested feel free to check out our website or call for more
> info.
>
> Sun Circle Farm
>
> www.suncirclefarm.com
>
> 907-745-7406
>
> Also, if you are getting grain from Delta, why not add Delta Meats?http://deltameat.com/
> If anyone is interested feel free to check out our website or call for more
> info.
>
> Sun Circle Farm
>
> www.suncirclefarm.com
>
> 907-745-7406
>
Anne-Corinne Kell
Mar 11, 2011, 2:51:11 PM3/11/11
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Hi All,
Thanks for all the leg work! You all probably know, but there's a guy on the Kenai doing commercial mushrooms, as well. As to the local pork, the listing on the permaculture site is ours (Sun Circle Farm) and I would be very interested in finding out how to provide all natural non-GMO pork year-round to the the co-op. We've been veggie farming for several years and are just getting the pork operation underway and are trying to define what markets are out there. I want to get past summer pig shares (which work well but are very limited in their reach, of course) and raise pigs year-round. I just sourced a good non-GMO feed made mostly from local food sources which will hopefully work better than the barley/fish we've tried in the past (had a hard time putting on weight fast enough on that). It's really hard to source non-GMO feed in state (all commercial feed is based on soy and/or corn) and since pigs are not herbivores (though they can eat a lot of grass and produce) that's been a real issue for me. I'm going to avoid restaurant wastes as well unless I'm confident that there is no GMO in that.....
I also wanted to respond to the comment that Anne (?) had made about grass-fed beef. Beef has gotten a bad rap in recent years, but there's a whole slew of literature (both research and published books) coming out now about grass-fed beef's place in sustainable agriculture. Clearly CAFO beef has earned its reputation - the chemical-intensive GMO grain that is raised on land that could grow human crops, the chemicals and antibiotics, the transportation, the waste issues, all have been well described. But pastured beeves convert solar energy to protein on "marginal" land that often isn't capable of supporting other food crops, they recycle waste back into humus and soil if rotated responsibly, they actually support and maintain perennial grass ecosystems that sequester huge amounts of carbon, they replace exogenous imported fertilizers if rotated as part of a rational well-planned system, and besides there is tons of research that supports the health benefits to humans of eating pastured meat (this coming from a reformed vegetarian who has done her research). It's all about balance and scale, but pastured ruminants clearly have a place in a healthy sustainable agricultural system. As to winter feed, most beef producers I know in AK feed hay through the winter. It's probably worth asking about whether grain is fed at all, and if so whether it is GMO-free (not likely to be), as well as to ask questions about how the hay is raised (chemical fertilizers vs local fish-based?). But let's not toss out the beef, or the responsible Alaskan producers providing a healthy quality product.
Anne-Corinne
Thanks for all the leg work! You all probably know, but there's a guy on the Kenai doing commercial mushrooms, as well. As to the local pork, the listing on the permaculture site is ours (Sun Circle Farm) and I would be very interested in finding out how to provide all natural non-GMO pork year-round to the the co-op. We've been veggie farming for several years and are just getting the pork operation underway and are trying to define what markets are out there. I want to get past summer pig shares (which work well but are very limited in their reach, of course) and raise pigs year-round. I just sourced a good non-GMO feed made mostly from local food sources which will hopefully work better than the barley/fish we've tried in the past (had a hard time putting on weight fast enough on that). It's really hard to source non-GMO feed in state (all commercial feed is based on soy and/or corn) and since pigs are not herbivores (though they can eat a lot of grass and produce) that's been a real issue for me. I'm going to avoid restaurant wastes as well unless I'm confident that there is no GMO in that.....
I also wanted to respond to the comment that Anne (?) had made about grass-fed beef. Beef has gotten a bad rap in recent years, but there's a whole slew of literature (both research and published books) coming out now about grass-fed beef's place in sustainable agriculture. Clearly CAFO beef has earned its reputation - the chemical-intensive GMO grain that is raised on land that could grow human crops, the chemicals and antibiotics, the transportation, the waste issues, all have been well described. But pastured beeves convert solar energy to protein on "marginal" land that often isn't capable of supporting other food crops, they recycle waste back into humus and soil if rotated responsibly, they actually support and maintain perennial grass ecosystems that sequester huge amounts of carbon, they replace exogenous imported fertilizers if rotated as part of a rational well-planned system, and besides there is tons of research that supports the health benefits to humans of eating pastured meat (this coming from a reformed vegetarian who has done her research). It's all about balance and scale, but pastured ruminants clearly have a place in a healthy sustainable agricultural system. As to winter feed, most beef producers I know in AK feed hay through the winter. It's probably worth asking about whether grain is fed at all, and if so whether it is GMO-free (not likely to be), as well as to ask questions about how the hay is raised (chemical fertilizers vs local fish-based?). But let's not toss out the beef, or the responsible Alaskan producers providing a healthy quality product.
Anne-Corinne
Alex Davis
Mar 11, 2011, 2:54:24 PM3/11/11
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For those of you who are interested check out my website adfarmorganic.com, I am still vending in Anchorage once a week. I am bringing in my pasture raised pork, eggs from cage free birds, certified organic potatoes, beets, parsnips, and kohlrabi. I am the last "small" farmer standing with product to sell in quantity. If you're trying to raise awareness about what things are available then check me out. My friend Duane is also bringing in beef that is grown here in the valley, as well as popcorn made in Anchorage, Hydorlycus sprouts, seafood, and Matinuska Creamery ice cream, cheeses, and butter. We are 7 weeks away from our first 52 week marketing season.
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