ANN: Frescobaldi 3.3.0

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Davide Liessi

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Apr 9, 2023, 4:20:34 PM4/9/23
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We are glad to announce the availability of Frescobaldi 3.3.0. macOS
and Windows installers are available from

https://github.com/frescobaldi/frescobaldi/releases/tag/v3.3.0

Linux users can install Frescobaldi from Flathub via Flatpak:

https://flathub.org/apps/details/org.frescobaldi.Frescobaldi

Unlike Frescobaldi 3.2, this release ships with an application bundle
for macOS users. In fact, there are two, one for x86_64 (Intel) and
one for arm64 (Apple silicon).

Among the most visible improvements: the score wizard has been
enhanced; there is a new option to reformat on save; a number of bugs,
crashes, internal errors and packaging problems have been fixed;
translations have been updated; and various updates make this version
of Frescobaldi work better with LilyPond 2.24.

A full list of the improvements in this release can be found in the Changelog.

https://github.com/frescobaldi/frescobaldi/blob/master/CHANGELOG.md#330---2023-03-26

Many thanks to all contributors to this release: Peter Bjuhr, Federico
Bruni, Davide Liessi, Benjamin Johnson, mr-bronson, listentolist,
Alejandro G. Peregrina, Lukas-Fabian Moser, and Jean Abou Samra.
Thanks to the translators Jun Tamura, Federico Bruni, Olivier
Miakinen, Rémy Claverie, Raphaël Hardy, Emmanuel Franquemagne, Martial
Rameaux, Nicolas Lehembre, Jean Abou Samra. Thanks to Davide Liessi,
Jacques Menu and Jörg Hoffmann for building the installers. Thanks to
Marnen Laibow-Koser for providing a remote macOS machine to debug
macOS-specific issues. Also, thanks to all the people who reported
bugs and contributed ideas.

We hope you enjoy this release. We are still looking for more hands,
especially when it comes to keeping Frescobaldi working on macOS and
Windows. If you enjoy Frescobaldi, please consider volunteering
yourself to help with its development.

With our best wishes (also of a happy Easter),
Wilbert and the Frescobaldi development team

Knute Snortum

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Apr 9, 2023, 6:32:24 PM4/9/23
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On Sun, Apr 9, 2023 at 1:20 PM Davide Liessi <davide...@gmail.com> wrote:
We are glad to announce the availability of Frescobaldi 3.3.0. macOS
and Windows installers are available from

 https://github.com/frescobaldi/frescobaldi/releases/tag/v3.3.0

Linux users can install Frescobaldi from Flathub via Flatpak:

 https://flathub.org/apps/details/org.frescobaldi.Frescobaldi

Is there a reason I shouldn't install Frescobaldi from the tar.gz file in the release page? That's what I've been doing.  I don't want to set up Flatpack on my Ubuntu system.

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Jon Arnold

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Apr 9, 2023, 11:26:59 PM4/9/23
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Thanks for the update!

Is the icon missing for any other Windows users? I get a white page icon in the taskbar.

Jean Abou Samra

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Apr 10, 2023, 12:00:20 AM4/10/23
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Le 10 avr. 2023 à 05:27, Jon Arnold <jonarno...@gmail.com> a écrit :


Thanks for the update!

Is the icon missing for any other Windows users? I get a white page icon in the taskbar.



It’s indeed been noticed (but we didn’t want to hold the release for it). See https://github.com/frescobaldi/frescobaldi/issues/1582

Jean Abou Samra

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Apr 10, 2023, 12:11:43 AM4/10/23
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Le 10 avr. 2023 à 00:32, Knute Snortum <ksno...@gmail.com> a écrit :

Is there a reason I shouldn't install Frescobaldi from the tar.gz file in the release page? That's what I've been doing.  I don't want to set up Flatpack on my Ubuntu system.


If you do that, keep in mind that you should also update the companion python-ly module to its latest source version from https://github.com/frescobaldi/python-ly/ (we haven’t done a release for it yet, this is something we need to think about…).

Installing Frescobaldi from source is usually harder than most software because dependencies need to come from mixed sources. To install python-ly or frescobaldi from source, you need to use pip, but it’s important to install python-poppler-qt5 first from your distro, because if pip wants to install that itself as a dependency, it will compile it from source which might be tricky. However, if you already have a working setup, this should work fine.

Keep in mind that if you want Frescobaldi to be launchable as a GUI application as opposed to the terminal, you will need a (freedesktop.org-style) desktop file. See https://groups.google.com/g/frescobaldi/c/Ip5Gs7JNxx0/m/w6IhnuT5AAAJ

Michael Hendry

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Apr 10, 2023, 2:59:01 AM4/10/23
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“Frescobaldi.app” cannot be opened because the developer cannot be verified.



I’ve just downloaded and installed Frescobaldi 3.3.0 on my 64-bit iMac running Mac OS Ventura 13.2.1, but got the above message when I tried to run it.


I was able to override this by following advice here:




and opened a test file. Several warnings came up, so I tried to convert the test file using Tools=>convert-ly.

I then got a similar warning about python3.10...

“python3.10” cannot be opened because the developer cannot be verified.


but havent been able to get round this using the same method.


I’m preparing to get back into Frescobaldi for the first time since the onset of Covid, as my amateur jazz guitar outings have been suspended, and I hadn’t needed to create or edit leadsheets. During this time my OS has lost 32-bit support.


Any suggestions?


Regards,


Michael Hendry



Davide Liessi

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Apr 10, 2023, 5:08:37 AM4/10/23
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Il giorno lun 10 apr 2023 alle ore 09:00 Michael Hendry
<hendry....@gmail.com> ha scritto:
> “Frescobaldi.app” cannot be opened because the developer cannot be verified.

This is expected: as we write in the release page, "The application
bundles are not signed with an Apple Developer certificate".

> https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT202491

Correct.

> Several warnings came up,

LilyPond warnings or Frescobaldi/Python warnings?
Given that you tried to use convert-ly to solve them, I suppose you
were referring to LilyPond warnings.

> “python3.10” cannot be opened because the developer cannot be verified.

I didn't think about this, but indeed that's expected, for the same
reason as above.

> …but haven’t been able to get round this using the same method.

Is python3.10 not listed in the System preferences -> Security &
Privacy tab when the error message appears?
You can try to run python3.10 manually: right-click on the Frescobaldi
application bundle, choose "show package contents" and navigate to
Contents/MacOS, which should contain a Frescobaldi and a python3.10
binaries.
Try applying the suggestions of the Apple support page to the python3.10 binary.
Please let me know if this works: I'll update the notes on the release page.

> During this time my OS has lost 32-bit support.

I think that Gatekeeper's checks would apply to both 32 bit and 64 bit
applications.

Best wishes.
Davide

Dimitri Sykias

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Apr 10, 2023, 6:30:42 AM4/10/23
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I installed Frescobaldi in macOS Monterey 12.6.4. When I try to launch it I get the following error:
“Frescobaldi has encountered a fatal error and will now terminate”

Jean Abou Samra

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Apr 10, 2023, 6:48:44 AM4/10/23
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> Le 10 avr. 2023 à 12:32, Dimitri Sykias <ds...@otenet.gr> a écrit :
>
> I installed Frescobaldi in macOS Monterey 12.6.4. When I try to launch it I get the following error:
> “Frescobaldi has encountered a fatal error and will now terminate”



Is this with the x86_64 bundle or the arm64 one? The latter is only expected to work on macOS Ventura and later.

Werner LEMBERG

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Apr 10, 2023, 7:39:49 AM4/10/23
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Dear Frescobaldi team,


> We are glad to announce the availability of Frescobaldi 3.3.0.
> [...]

Is it necessary to update the Frescobaldi installation instructions in
LilyPond's Learning Manual?

https://lilypond.org/doc/v2.25/Documentation/learning/installing
https://gitlab.com/lilypond/lilypond/-/blob/master/Documentation/en/learning/installing.itely

If yes, could you provide a Merge Request?


Werner

Michael Gerdau

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Apr 10, 2023, 7:44:42 AM4/10/23
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>> Thanks for the update!
>>
>> Is the icon missing for any other Windows users? I get a white page
>> icon in the taskbar.
>
> It’s indeed been noticed (but we didn’t want to hold the release for
> it). See https://github.com/frescobaldi/frescobaldi/issues/1582
> <https://github.com/frescobaldi/frescobaldi/issues/1582>

It's either fixed by now or does not happen everywhere.
FWIW I do have the normal Icon in the taskbar on Windows 10.

Kind regards,
Michael
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Jean Abou Samra

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Apr 10, 2023, 8:09:52 AM4/10/23
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> Le 10 avr. 2023 à 13:39, Werner LEMBERG <w...@gnu.org> a écrit :
>
> 
I don’t think so. The way to install Frescobaldi is the same as in previous versions. We haven’t implemented automatic installation of LilyPond yet, either (volunteers especially welcome).


K. Blum

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Apr 10, 2023, 8:33:36 AM4/10/23
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Am 10.04.2023 um 14:09 schrieb lilypond-u...@gnu.org:
Thanks for the update!

Is the icon missing for any other Windows users? I get a white page
icon in the taskbar.
It’s indeed been noticed (but we didn’t want to hold the release for
it). See https://github.com/frescobaldi/frescobaldi/issues/1582
<https://github.com/frescobaldi/frescobaldi/issues/1582>
It's either fixed by now or does not happen everywhere.
FWIW I do have the normal Icon in the taskbar on Windows 10.

Kind regards,
Michael

Thats's interesting. I have the missing taskbar icon on Win10 as well, but it has already been missing in previous versions:
definitely in 3.2, and IIRC also in 3.1, maybe even in 3.0.

Cheers,
Klaus

Michael Hendry

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Apr 10, 2023, 9:42:13 AM4/10/23
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On 10 Apr 2023, at 10:08, Davide Liessi <davide...@gmail.com> wrote:

Il giorno lun 10 apr 2023 alle ore 09:00 Michael Hendry
<hendry....@gmail.com> ha scritto:
“Frescobaldi.app” cannot be opened because the developer cannot be verified.

This is expected: as we write in the release page, "The application
bundles are not signed with an Apple Developer certificate".

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT202491

Correct.

Several warnings came up,

LilyPond warnings or Frescobaldi/Python warnings?
Given that you tried to use convert-ly to solve them, I suppose you
were referring to LilyPond warnings.

Yes, Lilypond warnings.


“python3.10” cannot be opened because the developer cannot be verified.

I didn't think about this, but indeed that's expected, for the same
reason as above.

…but haven’t been able to get round this using the same method.

Is python3.10 not listed in the System preferences -> Security &
Privacy tab when the error message appears?

No.

You can try to run python3.10 manually: right-click on the Frescobaldi
application bundle, choose "show package contents" and navigate to
Contents/MacOS, which should contain a Frescobaldi and a python3.10
binaries.

I double-clicked on the Python and got the following on Terminal:

michaelhendry@iMac ~ % /Applications/Frescobaldi.app/Contents/MacOS/python ; exit;

Python 3.10.10 (main, Feb 10 2023, 08:44:19) [Clang 9.1.0 (clang-902.0.39.2)] on darwin

Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.

>>> 




Try applying the suggestions of the Apple support page to the python3.10 binary.
Please let me know if this works: I'll update the notes on the release page.

This worked for python, but when I compiled a test file I got a similar message about ‘gs’. 

I don’t think the tickbox in System Preferences saying something like “use it anyway” appeared when I first tried, and I’m sure I didn’t get it with ‘gs’ first time.


During this time my OS has lost 32-bit support.

I think that Gatekeeper's checks would apply to both 32 bit and 64 bit
applications.

I’d been using Frescobaldi for about ten years without such issues, it’s only since I upgraded my iMac - with 64-bit-only OS - that I’ve had this sort of problem.

Anyway, I now seem to have Frescobaldi up and running.

Many thanks, 

Michael

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