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Frank Murphy
Dec 2, 2009, 1:53:23 AM12/2/09
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Hi all,
I had an interesting meeting with Margaret Peterson and Maria
Martinez today. We went and observed the Russian FLES program at
Argonne. There are definite limitations with a FLES program for kids who
have prior experience. Plus the expectations are quite low (I find). And
it's clear that with the budget issues, there won't be a French
immersion program in 2010... and it's not likely for 2011 or the
forseeable future.
However, a last-minute French FLES program may (barely) be possible.
I ask that all parents who are currently filling out SFUSD public school
kindergarten applications to email me directly (fjmu...@gmail.com). If
there's a last-minute addition, we'll need the district to be able to
contact us directly, but there is no way to indicate French interest on
the application.
Also, when deciding on schools, remember that there's a French
afterschool program at Lilienthal, plus one in the works at Clarendon
(and those schools are just *so easy* to get into!), plus there is a
program in the works at Flynn.
Frank
I had an interesting meeting with Margaret Peterson and Maria
Martinez today. We went and observed the Russian FLES program at
Argonne. There are definite limitations with a FLES program for kids who
have prior experience. Plus the expectations are quite low (I find). And
it's clear that with the budget issues, there won't be a French
immersion program in 2010... and it's not likely for 2011 or the
forseeable future.
However, a last-minute French FLES program may (barely) be possible.
I ask that all parents who are currently filling out SFUSD public school
kindergarten applications to email me directly (fjmu...@gmail.com). If
there's a last-minute addition, we'll need the district to be able to
contact us directly, but there is no way to indicate French interest on
the application.
Also, when deciding on schools, remember that there's a French
afterschool program at Lilienthal, plus one in the works at Clarendon
(and those schools are just *so easy* to get into!), plus there is a
program in the works at Flynn.
Frank
thierry castro
Dec 2, 2009, 2:18:21 AM12/2/09
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..."it's clear that with the budget issues, there won't be a French
immersion program in 2010... and it's not likely for 2011 or the
forseeable future." (emphasis mine)
immersion program in 2010... and it's not likely for 2011 or the
forseeable future." (emphasis mine)
I'm new to this discussion and issue. I thought it was a question of demand, then a bit of savvy politicking. Really? Not likely to have French immersion in SF Public School for the foreseeable future? I hope that's not true, Frank! Shame if it is!
Thierry
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Frank Murphy
Dec 6, 2009, 3:01:28 PM12/6/09
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It's true that the conversation starts with demand, but part of the
"savvy politicking" is knowing understanding the constraints on the
other side. And with the upcoming budget cycle looking extremely
miserly, convincing anyone on the District side that a French immersion
program should be a high priority is a very tough sell. Getting a single
person to run a daily French "FLES" program should be easier, but we'll see.
thierry castro wrote:
> ..."it's clear that with the budget issues, there won't be a French
> immersion program in 2010... /and it's not likely for 2011 or the
> forseeable future./" (emphasis mine)
> <mailto:french-education-in-sf-public-schools%2Bunsu...@googlegroups.com>.
"savvy politicking" is knowing understanding the constraints on the
other side. And with the upcoming budget cycle looking extremely
miserly, convincing anyone on the District side that a French immersion
program should be a high priority is a very tough sell. Getting a single
person to run a daily French "FLES" program should be easier, but we'll see.
thierry castro wrote:
> ..."it's clear that with the budget issues, there won't be a French
> forseeable future./" (emphasis mine)
>
> I'm new to this discussion and issue. I thought it was a question of
> demand, then a bit of savvy politicking. Really? Not likely to have
> French immersion in SF Public School for the foreseeable future? I hope
> that's not true, Frank! Shame if it is!
>
> Thierry
>
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 10:53 PM, Frank Murphy <fjmu...@gmail.com
> <mailto:fjmu...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I had an interesting meeting with Margaret Peterson and Maria
> Martinez today. We went and observed the Russian FLES program at
> Argonne. There are definite limitations with a FLES program for kids who
> have prior experience. Plus the expectations are quite low (I find). And
> it's clear that with the budget issues, there won't be a French
> immersion program in 2010... and it's not likely for 2011 or the
> forseeable future.
>
> However, a last-minute French FLES program may (barely) be possible.
> I ask that all parents who are currently filling out SFUSD public school
> kindergarten applications to email me directly (fjmu...@gmail.com
> <mailto:fjmu...@gmail.com>). If
> I'm new to this discussion and issue. I thought it was a question of
> demand, then a bit of savvy politicking. Really? Not likely to have
> French immersion in SF Public School for the foreseeable future? I hope
> that's not true, Frank! Shame if it is!
>
> Thierry
>
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 10:53 PM, Frank Murphy <fjmu...@gmail.com
> <mailto:fjmu...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I had an interesting meeting with Margaret Peterson and Maria
> Martinez today. We went and observed the Russian FLES program at
> Argonne. There are definite limitations with a FLES program for kids who
> have prior experience. Plus the expectations are quite low (I find). And
> it's clear that with the budget issues, there won't be a French
> immersion program in 2010... and it's not likely for 2011 or the
> forseeable future.
>
> However, a last-minute French FLES program may (barely) be possible.
> I ask that all parents who are currently filling out SFUSD public school
> kindergarten applications to email me directly (fjmu...@gmail.com
> there's a last-minute addition, we'll need the district to be able to
> contact us directly, but there is no way to indicate French interest on
> the application.
>
> Also, when deciding on schools, remember that there's a French
> afterschool program at Lilienthal, plus one in the works at Clarendon
> (and those schools are just *so easy* to get into!), plus there is a
> program in the works at Flynn.
>
> Frank
>
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> contact us directly, but there is no way to indicate French interest on
> the application.
>
> Also, when deciding on schools, remember that there's a French
> afterschool program at Lilienthal, plus one in the works at Clarendon
> (and those schools are just *so easy* to get into!), plus there is a
> program in the works at Flynn.
>
> Frank
>
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DG
Dec 7, 2009, 1:57:04 PM12/7/09
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In light of the news that there will be no F.Immersion in 2110 or 2111
in the SFUSD, are there many families who can take this one on their
own as a homeschooling situation supported by many?
DG
in the SFUSD, are there many families who can take this one on their
own as a homeschooling situation supported by many?
DG
Frank Murphy
Dec 7, 2009, 2:09:07 PM12/7/09
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There are still some good possibilities involving either on-site
extracurricular programs or at the Alliance Fran�ais on Bush St.
Frank
extracurricular programs or at the Alliance Fran�ais on Bush St.
Frank
Stephanie Gowin
Dec 7, 2009, 2:18:55 PM12/7/09
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Sorry if this has been discussed before, but have you thought of creating a public charter school? To do so can be challenging without the benefit of a charter management organization, but it is possible (look at Gateways HS and the premier school in San Carlos -- I think it's called the San Carlos Learning Center -- as examples) and an option.
Cheers,
Stephanie Gowin (I have a son at Lycee Francais, and my two older sons attended through middle school...)
Cheers,
Stephanie Gowin (I have a son at Lycee Francais, and my two older sons attended through middle school...)
On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 11:09 AM, Frank Murphy <fjmu...@gmail.com> wrote:
There are still some good possibilities involving either on-site
extracurricular programs or at the Alliance Français on Bush St.
thierry castro
Dec 7, 2009, 2:29:13 PM12/7/09
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Budget constraints are perrenial, whether real or imagined. Attempting to propose a new program whilst only having the cost-side of the equation is likely to be losing proposition. If demand is not enough, perhaps one should look at the problem more holistically (in particular to include the revenue increases such an effort as ours would produce), a more receptive audience would be found, a more compelling argument could be made (at the very least), and (I would contend) rapid adoption could be imminent. Or perhaps this framing has already been done (again, I just joined the conversation, so may have missed that part!)
There is a good real-world example at a district in NYC. The recent creation of a French-immersion public school there led to real-estate price increases (French and Francophone families relocated specifically to that neighborhood), businesses were created to support the influx (leading to job creation as well) which both lead to increased revenue to the city (in the form of taxes, licenses, etc.). Perhaps there was crime reduction in that neighborhood, a non-monetary benefit. Perhaps there was neighborhood beautification. Not that increased real-estate prices (or gentrification) are desireable for San Francisco, but you get the gist.
As far as the politicking, I'm not sure who, or which body, has the authority to grant a French-immersion program in San Francisco--though I would like to know! For example, can the Mayor authorize this by some kind of fiat? Can the chair of the Board of Education (if such a person/position exists)? Assuming those with the full-authority to grant this program authorized it today: what is the best-case scenario-timeline for realizing it?
Thanks for your insights!
Thierry
Frank Murphy
Dec 7, 2009, 2:30:21 PM12/7/09
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I think that it would be very difficult to get a charter school approved
in San Francisco. (One was just approved for New York City
(http://www.nyfacschool.org/), but the politics there are different from
San Francisco.) It would require expertise that I don't have, but if
someone else wants to start that kind of effort, I'll give any
information that I have.
Frank
Stephanie Gowin wrote:
> Sorry if this has been discussed before, but have you thought of
> creating a public charter school? To do so can be challenging without
> the benefit of a charter management organization, but it is possible
> (look at Gateways HS and the premier school in San Carlos -- I think
> it's called the San Carlos Learning Center -- as examples) and an option.
>
> Cheers,
> Stephanie Gowin (I have a son at Lycee Francais, and my two older sons
> attended through middle school...)
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 11:09 AM, Frank Murphy <fjmu...@gmail.com
> <mailto:fjmu...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> There are still some good possibilities involving either on-site
> extracurricular programs or at the Alliance Fran�ais on Bush St.
> <mailto:french-education-in-sf-public-schools%2Bunsu...@googlegroups.com>.
> <mailto:french-education-in-sf-public-schools%2Bunsu...@googlegroups.com>.
> <mailto:french-education-in-sf-public-schools%2Bunsu...@googlegroups.com>.
in San Francisco. (One was just approved for New York City
(http://www.nyfacschool.org/), but the politics there are different from
San Francisco.) It would require expertise that I don't have, but if
someone else wants to start that kind of effort, I'll give any
information that I have.
Frank
Stephanie Gowin wrote:
> Sorry if this has been discussed before, but have you thought of
> creating a public charter school? To do so can be challenging without
> the benefit of a charter management organization, but it is possible
> (look at Gateways HS and the premier school in San Carlos -- I think
> it's called the San Carlos Learning Center -- as examples) and an option.
>
> Cheers,
> Stephanie Gowin (I have a son at Lycee Francais, and my two older sons
> attended through middle school...)
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 11:09 AM, Frank Murphy <fjmu...@gmail.com
> <mailto:fjmu...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> There are still some good possibilities involving either on-site
>
> Frank
>
> DG wrote:
> > In light of the news that there will be no F.Immersion in 2110 or
> 2111
> > in the SFUSD, are there many families who can take this one on their
> > own as a homeschooling situation supported by many?
> > DG
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 10:53 PM, Frank Murphy <fjmu...@gmail.com
> <mailto:fjmu...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> I had an interesting meeting with Margaret Peterson and Maria
> >> Martinez today. We went and observed the Russian FLES program at
> >> Argonne. There are definite limitations with a FLES program for
> kids who
> >> have prior experience. Plus the expectations are quite low (I
> find). And
> >> it's clear that with the budget issues, there won't be a French
> >> immersion program in 2010... and it's not likely for 2011 or the
> >> forseeable future.
> >>
> >> However, a last-minute French FLES program may (barely) be
> possible.
> >> I ask that all parents who are currently filling out SFUSD
> public school
> >> kindergarten applications to email me directly
> (fjmu...@gmail.com <mailto:fjmu...@gmail.com>). If
> Frank
>
> DG wrote:
> > In light of the news that there will be no F.Immersion in 2110 or
> 2111
> > in the SFUSD, are there many families who can take this one on their
> > own as a homeschooling situation supported by many?
> > DG
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 10:53 PM, Frank Murphy <fjmu...@gmail.com
> <mailto:fjmu...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> I had an interesting meeting with Margaret Peterson and Maria
> >> Martinez today. We went and observed the Russian FLES program at
> >> Argonne. There are definite limitations with a FLES program for
> kids who
> >> have prior experience. Plus the expectations are quite low (I
> find). And
> >> it's clear that with the budget issues, there won't be a French
> >> immersion program in 2010... and it's not likely for 2011 or the
> >> forseeable future.
> >>
> >> However, a last-minute French FLES program may (barely) be
> possible.
> >> I ask that all parents who are currently filling out SFUSD
> public school
> >> kindergarten applications to email me directly
> >> there's a last-minute addition, we'll need the district to be
> able to
> >> contact us directly, but there is no way to indicate French
> interest on
> >> the application.
> >>
> >> Also, when deciding on schools, remember that there's a French
> >> afterschool program at Lilienthal, plus one in the works at
> Clarendon
> >> (and those schools are just *so easy* to get into!), plus there is a
> >> program in the works at Flynn.
> >>
> >> Frank
> >>
> >> --
> >>
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> able to
> >> contact us directly, but there is no way to indicate French
> interest on
> >> the application.
> >>
> >> Also, when deciding on schools, remember that there's a French
> >> afterschool program at Lilienthal, plus one in the works at
> Clarendon
> >> (and those schools are just *so easy* to get into!), plus there is a
> >> program in the works at Flynn.
> >>
> >> Frank
> >>
> >> --
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Frank Murphy
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Here is the best question you had:
"As far as the politicking, I'm not sure who, or which body, has the
authority to grant a French-immersion program in San Francisco--
though I would like to know!"
I would also like to know! What's clear is that the mayor doesn't have
any real say (SFUSD is separate from the City). The Spanish and
Cantonese immersion languages were started by local school communities;
the District caught up later. But now, no matter how great the argument,
any decision will be a decision-by-committee. The Superintendent could
decide and make it happen, and if a big part of the Board of Ed wanted
it to happen, it probably would. But there are a lot of different
priorities in a school district where 50% of the students qualify for
free or reduced lunch.
As for the timeline, the applications for 2010 kindergarten are on
January 9th. To get language immersion information into the booklet for
2011 kindergarten, any program will have to be approved, with a site, by
May 2010.
I do think that if full authority were given today, a program could be
started by Fall 2010. It's getting that full authority that will be the
challenge.
Frank
> <mailto:french-education-in-sf-public-schools%252Buns...@googlegroups.com>>.
"As far as the politicking, I'm not sure who, or which body, has the
authority to grant a French-immersion program in San Francisco--
though I would like to know!"
any real say (SFUSD is separate from the City). The Spanish and
Cantonese immersion languages were started by local school communities;
the District caught up later. But now, no matter how great the argument,
any decision will be a decision-by-committee. The Superintendent could
decide and make it happen, and if a big part of the Board of Ed wanted
it to happen, it probably would. But there are a lot of different
priorities in a school district where 50% of the students qualify for
free or reduced lunch.
As for the timeline, the applications for 2010 kindergarten are on
January 9th. To get language immersion information into the booklet for
2011 kindergarten, any program will have to be approved, with a site, by
May 2010.
I do think that if full authority were given today, a program could be
started by Fall 2010. It's getting that full authority that will be the
challenge.
Frank
> > <mailto:fjmu...@gmail.com <mailto:fjmu...@gmail.com>>> wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I had an interesting meeting with Margaret Peterson and Maria
> > Martinez today. We went and observed the Russian FLES program at
> > Argonne. There are definite limitations with a FLES program
> for kids who
> > have prior experience. Plus the expectations are quite low (I
> find). And
> > it's clear that with the budget issues, there won't be a French
> > immersion program in 2010... and it's not likely for 2011 or the
> > forseeable future.
> >
> > However, a last-minute French FLES program may (barely) be
> possible.
> > I ask that all parents who are currently filling out SFUSD
> public school
> > kindergarten applications to email me directly
> (fjmu...@gmail.com <mailto:fjmu...@gmail.com>
> > <mailto:fjmu...@gmail.com <mailto:fjmu...@gmail.com>>). If
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I had an interesting meeting with Margaret Peterson and Maria
> > Martinez today. We went and observed the Russian FLES program at
> > Argonne. There are definite limitations with a FLES program
> for kids who
> > have prior experience. Plus the expectations are quite low (I
> find). And
> > it's clear that with the budget issues, there won't be a French
> > immersion program in 2010... and it's not likely for 2011 or the
> > forseeable future.
> >
> > However, a last-minute French FLES program may (barely) be
> possible.
> > I ask that all parents who are currently filling out SFUSD
> public school
> > kindergarten applications to email me directly
> (fjmu...@gmail.com <mailto:fjmu...@gmail.com>
> > there's a last-minute addition, we'll need the district to be
> able to
> > contact us directly, but there is no way to indicate French
> interest on
> > the application.
> >
> > Also, when deciding on schools, remember that there's a French
> > afterschool program at Lilienthal, plus one in the works at
> Clarendon
> > (and those schools are just *so easy* to get into!), plus
> there is a
> > program in the works at Flynn.
> >
> > Frank
> >
> > --
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> able to
> > contact us directly, but there is no way to indicate French
> interest on
> > the application.
> >
> > Also, when deciding on schools, remember that there's a French
> > afterschool program at Lilienthal, plus one in the works at
> Clarendon
> > (and those schools are just *so easy* to get into!), plus
> there is a
> > program in the works at Flynn.
> >
> > Frank
> >
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DG
Dec 7, 2009, 9:51:33 PM12/7/09
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With enough money you can do anything. There are many families in
this city (mine included) that already pay very expensive tuition
bills to send our kids to a french immersion program. If a few brave
souls could start their own school and get it running long enough to
demonstrate that it was a true french immersion program, you'd have
many families (like mine) willing to support your school with money
money money. I'm amazed that this is not already a done deal; French
Immersion in this city seems so right, especially in light of the
SFUSD spending money on Cantonese, Spanish, Mandarin and Russian
programs.
DG
this city (mine included) that already pay very expensive tuition
bills to send our kids to a french immersion program. If a few brave
souls could start their own school and get it running long enough to
demonstrate that it was a true french immersion program, you'd have
many families (like mine) willing to support your school with money
money money. I'm amazed that this is not already a done deal; French
Immersion in this city seems so right, especially in light of the
SFUSD spending money on Cantonese, Spanish, Mandarin and Russian
programs.
DG
Kazz Regelman
Dec 8, 2009, 11:07:29 AM12/8/09
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I've already looked into this -- extensively. The problem, as nearly always is the case in San Francisco, is real estate. There are EXTREMELY few sites that are legal to be used as schools and most of them a) are expensive and b) need a lot of money put into them for code reasons as well as usage reasons. Any other sites that could be converted have the same a) and b) caveats plut the additional need to deal with the city bureaucracy and get zoning/usage approval. I've even called the USD itself to find out about renting existing schools, but they said they have a request list a mile long, including requests from many of the existing private schools in the city hoping to expand and overseas investors with deep pockets. The Friends School, for example, took many years more than expected to get approved and took MANY, MANY millions of dollars.
Sadly, as much as we all pay for tuition does not even cover the cost of salaries, staff, insurance, and building/rent here in SF and even if you pay full tuition at a private school, your tuition is still getting subsidized. So while it's true that with enough money you can do anything, I think you'd have to spend a lot of money and still not end up with anything more affordable for the general public that doesn't want to or can't pay private tuitions.
As I said, I've done a lot of research on this matter, and I'm sad to say it, but there it is...
K
> Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 18:51:33 -0800
> Subject: Re: [ SF French ] status
> From: abonda...@gmail.com
> To: french-education-i...@googlegroups.com
Sadly, as much as we all pay for tuition does not even cover the cost of salaries, staff, insurance, and building/rent here in SF and even if you pay full tuition at a private school, your tuition is still getting subsidized. So while it's true that with enough money you can do anything, I think you'd have to spend a lot of money and still not end up with anything more affordable for the general public that doesn't want to or can't pay private tuitions.
As I said, I've done a lot of research on this matter, and I'm sad to say it, but there it is...
K
> Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 18:51:33 -0800
> Subject: Re: [ SF French ] status
> From: abonda...@gmail.com
> To: french-education-i...@googlegroups.com
Stephanie Gowin
Dec 8, 2009, 11:13:59 AM12/8/09
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Keep in mind that if you go the charter route, SFUSD MUST find a facility for you under Prop 39. (That's one of the reasons why the relationship between SFUSD and its charters is so contentious).
Regards,
~Stephanie
Regards,
~Stephanie
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